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Profile Michael GoetzProject donor
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 64472 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013 | 20:50:31 UTC
Last modified: 23 Apr 2013 | 15:53:18 UTC

At the end of February, we discovered that a small group of people were cheating by faking results. Changes were immediately made to our validation software to prevent this from happening again.

We have rescinded all the credits from the users who were cheating. To be fair, we've also deducted those credits from the teams they were in. Of course, not everyone in their teams are cheaters, but fraudulently gained credits shouldn't count towards team scores. Some of the teams affected are amongst the oldest, largest teams here, and in some cases those teams have lost in excess of 1 billion credits.

The other team members, no doubt, knew nothing of the cheating, so no stigma should be attached to these teams, or their members. I'm listing the teams here only so that if you suddenly see your team's credits and/or rank have dropped, you'll know why.

The following teams (team ID: team name) have lost credits:

64: BOINC@Taiwan
1: BOINCstats
103: Dutch Power Cows
2887: TaiwanROC
852: SETI@Taiwan �x�W�ζ�
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,766,072)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,127,903)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,119)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (294,653)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,599,627)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,170,556)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,616)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (215,932)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,630)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,376,073)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,136,781)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (176,728,046)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (24,159)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (159,950)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,070,925)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,584,204)
Message 64475 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013 | 23:02:51 UTC - in response to Message 64472.

The Asians and Pot Smokers.

I can forgive the pot smokers, 1st - I wish I lived there, and 2nd - they probably forgot they were cheating.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (93,542)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (171,184)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,465)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,653)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (238,636)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (257,005)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (42,735)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,545)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (255,960)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,509,198)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,821)GFN Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (515,581)
Message 64476 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013 | 23:23:56 UTC

I am very sad for all of this.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (38,254)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,041)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (44,126)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,267,768)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (85,206)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,313)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (212,264)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (24,507)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (64,998)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (63,828)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,050,994)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (63,599)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (787,078)GFN Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (996,077)PSA Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,732,193)
Message 64477 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 0:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 64472.

If results were faked, that means a significant amount of work will need to be redone / revalidated, correct?

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 64478 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 0:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 64477.

If results were faked, that means a significant amount of work will need to be redone / revalidated, correct?


Yes. Approximately one month's worth of PPS sieving needs to be redone. That work is being crunched now.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,256)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,918)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (33,010)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,848)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (73,145)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,126,104)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (366,181)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,717)
Message 64481 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 2:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 64478.

If results were faked, that means a significant amount of work will need to be redone / revalidated, correct?


Yes. Approximately one month's worth of PPS sieving needs to be redone. That work is being crunched now.



NP - Switching over to PPS-Sieve now... Too bad that folks feel they need to cheat in a production that is supposed to be for science and fun.
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,003,328)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,677)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,024,447)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,028,916)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,801,338)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,018,245)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,008,223)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,020,468)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,095,754)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,199,960)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,044,873)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,086,063)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,355,660)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,040,195)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (338,243,822)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,035,800)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,535,006)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,456,546)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (125,298,879)PSA Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,731,399)
Message 64483 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 5:20:30 UTC

I am sad to see my team linked to this incident. I agree with Michael, I don't think other team members knew about the cheating.

The PG Admins have handle this the best way available to them. Thank you for your hard work on this and all the other messy tasks that keep this wonderful project running smoothly.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (375,482)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (70,916)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (658,842)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (184,551)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (997,091)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,763)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (493,270)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (86,817)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (390,276)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (319,642)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (66,351,393)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,459,920)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,159,405)
Message 64485 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 6:39:57 UTC - in response to Message 64472.

Good. Keep cheaters away!

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (273,101)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (619,698)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (275,569)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,126,540)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (264,937)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,399)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (649,194)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (320,318)PPS Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (828,275)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,092,549)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (177,046)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,740,238)
Message 64486 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 7:00:57 UTC

Did you abduct the total credit of the cheating users from the team(s) they were/are a member of or did you take into account the date they joined a team?
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,788)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (519,203)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,029,040)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,359,606)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,524,598)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (657,854)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (548,393)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,606,959)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (726,335)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (662,143)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,157,792)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,045,919)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,678,906)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,598,010)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,550,703)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (546,808)
Message 64487 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 9:46:56 UTC

This really sucks. Makes me think about Seti@Home a couple of years ago. Well... good thing you guys found out....
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 64488 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 13:09:19 UTC - in response to Message 64486.

Did you abduct the total credit of the cheating users from the team(s) they were/are a member of or did you take into account the date they joined a team?


ABSOLUTELY! I would not have touched the team totals if I could not tell, with certainty, exactly how much credit belonged to each team. The system keeps track of how much credit each person has when they join and leave each team.

If a person contributed 1 credit to team A and a billion credits to team B, then that's exactly what would have been deducted.
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Message 64490 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 14:08:22 UTC - in response to Message 64478.

I can understand why people cheat. Personally, I'd rather have credits as a reward for my genuine contribution and get that feel-good feeling from contributing something worthwhile.

If results were faked, that means a significant amount of work will need to be redone / revalidated, correct?

Yes. Approximately one month's worth of PPS sieving needs to be redone. That work is being crunched now.

So work I and others did has been wasted? The time, the processor power, the good will, and the heat and CO2 generated?

So I have paid for electricity, contributed time, and these toe-rags have seen to it that is was for nothing?

Can these thieves be named and shamed? Their credits reduced to zero? Banned? Banned from all BOINC projects and all records wiped?

If you are one of the scum-bags that did this, I hope your life has moments of huge and random disappointment. It is selfish parasites like you that, by thoughtlessly taking advantage of other people's good will, make other people's lives harder than they should be. If you took the same imagination and effort that you applied to cheating and did something constructive with it, you lives would have a more positive value than they do right now.

Wow, a billion credits worth of work all destroyed by these lying wastrels. The wasted elapsed month, the time, energy and motivation cost of the project team. Appalling, utterly appalling.

If you know one of these people, spit in their face for me. (Or pour Coke in their PCs.)

By the way, if any of these cheats are in the UK, inform the UK police as their wilful sabotage of this project is an offence under Section 3 of the Computer Misuse Act 1990. It does not matter that your project computers are outside the UK.

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Message 64491 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 14:40:15 UTC

Not asking for names but was wondering if some of these folks just jumped between teams or if they were permanent members. A bad apple could cause issues simply by joining good teams for short periods.
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Message 64495 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 15:03:42 UTC - in response to Message 64490.
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So work I and others did has been wasted? The time, the processor power, the good will, and the heat and CO2 generated?

So I have paid for electricity, contributed time, and these toe-rags have seen to it that is was for nothing?

Actually, nobody has wasted power, electricity, the heat, CO2 and so on.
PPS Sieve is only a sieve and in general requires only 1 quorum.
The only real wasted thing - the admin's time for investigation, cheaters reveal, DB correction, new tasks generation and so on.
There is also "loss of profit" from false sieving... I mean some Proth numbers could be between those factors, which we no need to check.
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Message 64496 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 15:10:30 UTC - in response to Message 64490.


So work I and others did has been wasted? The time, the processor power, the good will, and the heat and CO2 generated?

So I have paid for electricity, contributed time, and these toe-rags have seen to it that is was for nothing?



Your work was in no way wasted. Only the work that was faked was removed, and now needs to be crunched again.

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Message 64497 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 15:31:31 UTC - in response to Message 64491.

Not asking for names but was wondering if some of these folks just jumped between teams or if they were permanent members. A bad apple could cause issues simply by joining good teams for short periods.

We had a jumper. This jumper also "touched" DPC.
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Message 64499 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 15:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 64490.

I can understand why people cheat. Personally, I'd rather have credits as a reward for my genuine contribution and get that feel-good feeling from contributing something worthwhile.

If results were faked, that means a significant amount of work will need to be redone / revalidated, correct?

Yes. Approximately one month's worth of PPS sieving needs to be redone. That work is being crunched now.

So work I and others did has been wasted? The time, the processor power, the good will, and the heat and CO2 generated?


Yes, but not a whole month's worth. Mostly, the re-sieving is to cover work that they returned that wasn't valid. So, it's re-sieving work that was never done in the first place. HOWEVER, although we can tell which ranges don't have any factors, we can't determine whether that's due to valid computations of ranges that simply had no factors, or fraudulent results that didn't return any valid factors. So some fraction of the work being re-sieved was already done legitimately and is now being done again. In fact, because we're now double checking a lot of sieve tasks, you could say the work is being done in triplicate due to this. (The original valid run plus two new runs.)

It's not possible to determine how much valid work is being repeated. It could be 99%, it could be 1%, or it could be anywhere in between. We do know it's not 99% because the re-sieving IS finding new factors, which shouldn't happen when re-sieving ranges that were correctly done before. So all the new factors we're finding are from ranges that were faked by the cheaters.

So I have paid for electricity, contributed time, and these toe-rags have seen to it that is was for nothing?


To some extent, probably, but it's not possible to say how much.

Can these thieves be named and shamed?


That remains a possibility, although I'm not going to do that at this time. That's an action that can't be undone, but we can always decide to do so in the future.

Their credits reduced to zero?


Already done.

Banned?

Banned from all BOINC projects and all records wiped?


Not really possible since you can always create a new account. Their records now show 0, which may be better than wiping the records altogether.

If you are one of the scum-bags that did this, I hope your life has moments of huge and random disappointment. It is selfish parasites like you that, by thoughtlessly taking advantage of other people's good will, make other people's lives harder than they should be. If you took the same imagination and effort that you applied to cheating and did something constructive with it, you lives would have a more positive value than they do right now.


Amen.


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Message 64500 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 15:55:39 UTC - in response to Message 64491.

Not asking for names but was wondering if some of these folks just jumped between teams or if they were permanent members. A bad apple could cause issues simply by joining good teams for short periods.


Some of the cheaters have been around for many years, and were members of various teams over those years. The cheating seems to be relatively recent and most of their credits were probably legitimate, although I've erased ALL of their credits, legitimate or fraudulent. Some appeared to join PG recently just for the purpose of cheating.

Joining a team briefly to adversely affect that team really is senseless, since the system tracks how many credits go to each team. It's not as if the guy with 4 billion credits could switch to team X at the last minute so that all 4 billion credits get removed from that team. That's not how it works. (Yes, the top guy had over 4 billion credits. Note the use of past tense in that sentence.)
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Message 64502 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 16:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 64481.

You are so right. It should be fun and for science.

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Message 64504 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 17:28:41 UTC

Winter Solstice PPS Sieve.
Cheaters:
2 Brain
11 kiwi
13 willy
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Message 64506 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 18:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 64499.

Can these thieves be named and shamed?


That remains a possibility, although I'm not going to do that at this time. That's an action that can't be undone, but we can always decide to do so in the future.


From my point of view, you should immediately name those thieves!
You named the teams they belonged to, so somebody just reading the post could think the whole team is "guilty". For sure this will not be the case, it's only those a.....s
Short: Don't name the whole team, name the guilty!

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Message 64507 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 18:30:19 UTC

It is always sad when a select few feel they are above the law and ruin everything for everyone else..

I agree that the individuals need to be blamed, not the teams they were on..

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Message 64508 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 18:41:51 UTC

Absolutely legal and open information from boincstats.com:

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/11/team/list/13/0/0



http://boincstats.com/en/stats/11/user/list/0/200/64



http://boincstats.com/en/stats/11/user/list/0/200/1


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Message 64509 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 18:52:07 UTC

It's so much fun to actually find a huge prime. So glad that isolation was possible and other team members weren't penalized. Good job, Admins.

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Message 64513 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 20:13:34 UTC - in response to Message 64472.

Hello,
I just noticed this piece of information. It is a bad news. But I also heard some different voice from Team TaiwanROC. (Link:http://tw-dclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=625&start=48)

I have searched its Boincstats records. I could see that their Team credits has been cut. But:

[/url]http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/list/0/0/599638/0[url]
I did not find that any one of them have lost credits
[/url]http://boincstats.com/en/stats/11/team/detail/2887/charts[url]
In addition, I really don't think that they have gained 3 million credits from Feb.

So, could you double check their records? I understand that it is bad to cheat in crunching. But, I just do not understand why Team TaiwanROC was considered "cheating" based on their records on Boincstats.

Thank you so much.

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So, could you double check their records? I understand that it is bad to cheat in crunching. But, I just do not understand why Team TaiwanROC was considered "cheating" based on their records on Boincstats.

FYA:
http://stats6.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=pgrid&name=174354
Due to FreeDC stat Primegrid user willy (PG id = 174354) (current member BOINC@Taiwan) from 2013-01-09 to 2013-01-17 was a member of TaiwanROC and his PrimeGrid credits changed from 58,075,588 to 61,665,703
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Message 64515 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 20:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 64514.

Thank you so much. That makes sense to me. I will contact the Team leader of TaiwanROC to explain this situation to him. He thought PG considered him as the person who had cheated.
Thank you again

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Message 64517 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 21:32:31 UTC

Ok this is more serious than I thought at first.
It's sad that people are cheating but now I read that 1 month of work needs to be re-done? I mean, that's the actual harm here. So much electricity and computer power wasted... I think accounts where cheating is detected should get suspended. To me it seems it's not just faking stats, it's causing actual harm too.
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Message 64519 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 22:30:48 UTC

It must be some big mistake.
I do not believe.
How validator is scored?

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Message 64520 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013 | 22:36:57 UTC

Well done PG for revealing this information. Xu Yongchen stated that there was some concern for not revealing the names of the culprits. Because of the action of a few the whole team needs to suffer as they too would have received credit for work not done. Apart from that, members of the team might not be aware who done the damage and would feel ashamed and no longer trust each other unless the culprits names were revealed. As it is impossible to acquire such large credit in such a short time, I believe that they should be named and shamed for I sure would not wanted them in my team should they wish to join.

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Message 64521 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 0:36:37 UTC - in response to Message 64520.

Well done PG for revealing this information. Xu Yongchen stated that there was some concern for not revealing the names of the culprits. Because of the action of a few the whole team needs to suffer as they too would have received credit for work not done. Apart from that, members of the team might not be aware who done the damage and would feel ashamed and no longer trust each other unless the culprits names were revealed. As it is impossible to acquire such large credit in such a short time, I believe that they should be named and shamed for I sure would not wanted them in my team should they wish to join.


That's a good point. I'm considering releasing the names.

As for acquiring so many points in such a short period of time, you would be astounded at how much legitimate computing power people have available to them. More than once, people have asked us "How did so-and-so get so many points so quickly? Are they cheating somehow?". Each time it's been a legitimate user with a LOT of crunching power -- often many GPUs. Especially in this age of cloud computing where you can rent a server -- or a hundred servers -- with a click of a mouse, it's very easy to throw a lot of cores at a boinc project.
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Message 64522 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 0:43:37 UTC - in response to Message 64513.

Hello,
I just noticed this piece of information. It is a bad news. But I also heard some different voice from Team TaiwanROC. (Link:http://tw-dclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=625&start=48)

I have searched its Boincstats records. I could see that their Team credits has been cut. But:

[/url]http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/list/0/0/599638/0[url]
I did not find that any one of them have lost credits
[/url]http://boincstats.com/en/stats/11/team/detail/2887/charts[url]
In addition, I really don't think that they have gained 3 million credits from Feb.

So, could you double check their records? I understand that it is bad to cheat in crunching. But, I just do not understand why Team TaiwanROC was considered "cheating" based on their records on Boincstats.

Thank you so much.


The *teams* did NOT cheat. 16 people cheated, and their credits were cancelled from their individual accounts as well as from the teams they were on now and in the past.

From my original post:

The other team members, no doubt, knew nothing of the cheating, so no stigma should be attached to these teams, or their members. I'm listing the teams here only so that if you suddenly see your team's credits and/or rank have dropped, you'll know why.



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Message 64523 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 0:54:10 UTC

The argument that the teams affected would benefit by knowing who the cheaters are is a compelling one. So here's the list of the cheaters:

id name current team past teams 56823 Brain BOINCstats BOINC@Taiwan Dutch Power Cows 78357 kiwi BOINC@Taiwan Dutch Power Cows TaiwanROC 150205 loveelva BOINC@Taiwan Dutch Power Cows 170851 TopGun BOINC@Taiwan Dutch Power Cows SETI@Taiwan �x�W�ζ� 174354 willy BOINC@Taiwan Dutch Power Cows TaiwanROC 189589 Turbo BOINC@Taiwan 189775 Elladan NULL 190035 alex BOINC@Taiwan 191415 Shawn NULL 191994 boris NULL 192513 Evans BOINC@Taiwan 192593 redbull BOINC@Taiwan 193201 kobe BOINC@Taiwan 194508 Patrick Wu BOINC@Taiwan 195006 Vincent BOINC@Taiwan 195120 bluesky BOINC@Taiwan 209974 nalyserhdiow NULL


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Message 64526 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 3:40:51 UTC - in response to Message 64523.

Thank you for releasing the names of the cheaters Michael. Those of us who are honest and wouldn't do something like this appreciate knowing who the dishonest individuals are so that we can avoid associating with these individuals in our future on any projects here on BOINC, not just this one.

It is important that this kind of information is known thru out the entire network, not just this project so that this kind of thing doesn't happen again not only here but on any of the other projects either.

Integrity is something we all expect from these projects we are participating in, many with our home personal computers, and many with our employer's computers. People who do not bring integrity and personal responsiblity with their actions to a site like this where we all depend on the honesty and yes, integrity of all the participants for our own safety and well being deserve to have their names made known and if possible legal action taken. These people are lucky its just their monnikers being advertised and not their full names as most people would be unable to identify them by these nicknames they are using.

I hope that Prime Grid is at least able to ban or highly restrict the access of these individuals to the project and if they can, I hope you take some legal action against the individuals who caused this grief to the project. If nothing else, they have caused you a huge amount of man hours in tracking this down and in rescheduling the jobs that are involved because of their fraudulent behavior. These people should not get away with what they did. You have the proof and you should go after them. Its not enough to just take away points.

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Message 64532 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 8:50:14 UTC

I hope you have not forgotten about the right to defense and contacted USERS.
Maybe some fell victim to the exchange point -> "weak account key"

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Message 64533 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 10:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 64532.

I hope you have not forgotten about the right to defense and contacted USERS.
Maybe some fell victim to the exchange point -> "weak account key"


They were all notified. None responded. Most were using fake email addresses (and fake EVERYTHING, actually.) We caught them almost two months before we took action to remove their credits; we were very thorough about making sure this wasn't some sort of innocent mistake.
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Message 64534 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 10:31:31 UTC

We (DPC) fell victim to a few of these cheating team-hoppers.
On a positive side, none of our regular members cheated and now we can overtake SETI.USA again :).

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Message 64536 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 10:51:38 UTC - in response to Message 64534.

We (DPC) fell victim to a few of these cheating team-hoppers.
On a positive side, none of our regular members cheated and now we can overtake SETI.USA again :).


Indeed! I'm firing up the GPU to do some PPS Sieve to make this happen and help fix the hole in the data at the same time too :)
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Message 64537 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 11:09:07 UTC - in response to Message 64534.

We (DPC) fell victim to a few of these cheating team-hoppers.

Since the most of the teams are open to new members, none of us are not insured against such incidents. Never mind.
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Message 64539 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 11:13:50 UTC - in response to Message 64534.

I'm from from Team AnandTech I'll pitch in some cores to assist.
What I need is the abbreviation of the name to set the number of cores, like "llrpp" or whatever the project name shortcut is.
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 64541 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 11:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 64539.

I'm from from Team AnandTech I'll pitch in some cores to assist.
What I need is the abbreviation of the name to set the number of cores, like "llrpp" or whatever the project name shortcut is.
Bruce


The full list of app names is in this post: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=4963&nowrap=true#64166

The one you want is pps_sr2sieve.


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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (313,285)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,285,918)
Message 64548 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 15:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 64541.

Okay, you now have 6 cores, 3 @ 4.5GHz and 3 @ 3.0GHz.
When WCG hcc1 Help Conquer Cancer runs out I'll put 2 ATI 7950s on it for a month since it seems this project also does GPU.
Happy crunching :)
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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,148,880)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,773,730)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,084,793)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,356,142)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,114,543)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,084,850)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,268)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,169,992)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,132,465)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,568,836)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,612,313)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,973,394)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (127,922,665)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,984,158)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,022,156,163)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,134,964)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,013,696)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (105,833,611)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (150,385,601)PSA Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,370,700,486)
Message 64549 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 16:55:37 UTC - in response to Message 64534.

We (DPC) fell victim to a few of these cheating team-hoppers.
On a positive side, none of our regular members cheated and now we can overtake SETI.USA again :).


One reason I asked my question was because I remembered a person named Brain join your team for one of the challenges.

Anyway, the horde knows the herd is above board!

(and now back to my steak)

Cheers, Rick
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Discovered 1 mega primeEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Discovered 1 twin prime321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,405)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,734,854)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,421,149)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,576,209)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,825,243)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,352,326)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,628)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,248,659)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,878,856)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,106)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,400,237)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,000,977)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,843,367)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,673,438)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,473,750)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,243,608)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,734,912)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (201,885,250)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,042,125)
Message 64550 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 17:32:58 UTC

Did this cheating happen during any of the PPS Sieve challenges. If so, have the outcomes also been cleaned up? It would seem to me it may have happened during the 2012 Winter Solstice, but if it was going on long enough it could have also affected the 2011 or maybe earlier?

Was it only PPS? Could other Sieves have been included?

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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,573)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,909)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,003,216)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,191,658)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,184,309)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,564)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,851,996)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,482)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,532,254)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,501,055)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,007,050)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,435,669)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (266,666,326)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,003,605)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,000,025)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (188,884,521)
Message 64554 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 18:51:55 UTC

Right I'll help too. Nothing like feeling you're totally above board with things :).

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 4 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,189,169)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,663,005)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,113,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,621,320)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (49,721,872)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,480,703)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,557,761)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,269,436)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,837,764)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,255,198)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,534,611)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (17,666)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,165,870)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,012,635)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (303,115,030)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (727,064)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,187,678)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (79,934,153)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (123,603,829)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,938,273)
Message 64555 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 18:54:47 UTC

Thank you so much, admins, for being diligent and finding these faked results.

The two most important things in PrimeGrid are 1) the integrity of the results, and 2) the trust of the community.

Your actions have ensured that the results of our work are accurate and true, and have showed that the rest of us in the community are trustworthy and upstanding.

I'm firing up my GPU rig again just to help with the re-sieving effort!
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,137,410)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,005,544)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,170,861)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,020,167)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,023,233)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,065,730)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,036,592)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,008,007)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,244)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,002,759)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,017,997)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,104)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,000,304)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,087,920)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,092,841)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,313,121)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,284,804)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,390,792)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,599,058)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,756,474)
Message 64557 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013 | 19:37:24 UTC
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As far as I can see, it looks like troubles also waiting for WCG.
8 accounts except PrimeGrid also have WCG credits. And ONLY WCG.
And their common property - they all were created in WCG almost at the same time - 19-20 Jan 2013:

195120 bluesky
World Community Grid | 1,386,450 | 2,674 | 19 Jan 2013

195006 Vincent
World Community Grid | 1,287,909 | 3,259 | 19 Jan 2013

194508 Patrick Wu
World Community Grid | 1,271,905 | 3,055 | 19 Jan 2013

193201 kobe
World Community Grid | 2,015,410 | 2,105 | 19 Jan 2013

192593 redbull
World Community Grid | 2,595,243 | 43,629 | 20 Jan 2013

192513 Evans
World Community Grid | 2,007,255 | 33,550 | 19 Jan 2013

190035 alex
World Community Grid | 2,543,346 | 39,734 | 19 Jan 2013

189589 Turbo
World Community Grid | 2,649,513 | 45,019 | 20 Jan 2013

And their "teacher":
56823 Brain
World Community Grid | 91,418,650 | 806,898 | 24 Feb 2010
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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,067,502)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,010,955)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,443,883)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,501,906)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,758,220)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,667,951)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,120,365)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,636,723)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,201,403)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,628,223)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,061,985)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,027,534)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,370,919)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,372)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (129,430,775)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,083,315)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,629,248)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (47,877,206)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (277,287,820)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,556,062)
Message 64563 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013 | 2:37:55 UTC
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https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewpostinthread?post=419197

WCG is on it.
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Message 64564 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013 | 4:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 64550.

Did this cheating happen during any of the PPS Sieve challenges. If so, have the outcomes also been cleaned up? It would seem to me it may have happened during the 2012 Winter Solstice, but if it was going on long enough it could have also affected the 2011 or maybe earlier?

Was it only PPS? Could other Sieves have been included?


I don't think the stats page generated here can easily be changed, but once I will rerun the stats with my tool which now includes ban-functionality as well as deduct-the-score-of-the-banned-user-from-their-teams-total-functionality.
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Message 64567 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013 | 12:59:42 UTC

I am very sorry to hear that some people have to cheat!

Even more so because these people ruin the reputation of my team and others while there is nothing we can do to prevent these people from joining.

Having said that, i will fire up my 2 cards this weekend to join in the redo of the cheated units.

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Message 64568 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013 | 15:38:25 UTC - in response to Message 64567.


Even more so because these people ruin the reputation of my team and others while there is nothing we can do to prevent these people from joining.

Actually any team can change its membership policy and close the team. Joining new members will take place only after acceptance of the team administrator.
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Message 64573 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013 | 22:41:49 UTC - in response to Message 64563.
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https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewpostinthread?post=419197

WCG is on it.


It doesnt look like they take it too serious. ;-p So if anyone wants to
cheat, WCG is the place to do it. ;-))


....or maybe.. someone will take it serious when they have thougt
about it once more... ?
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Message 64595 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013 | 21:21:14 UTC

So we estimate a month's PPS to do do we... Any idea if we can track how far we are through this? It's almost as though we've gained a challenge :)! What they've lost we've gained!

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Message 64602 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013 | 13:04:47 UTC - in response to Message 64595.

So we estimate a month's PPS to do do we... Any idea if we can track how far we are through this? It's almost as though we've gained a challenge :)! What they've lost we've gained!

As of right this moment we're 47.5% through the workunits we're redoing.

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Found 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,049,101)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,065,659)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,377,236)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,216,209)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,652,611)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,076,339)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,603,584)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,762,093)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,108,426)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,594,095)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,323,182)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,002,108)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,967,439)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,137,451)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (222,145,218)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (627,444)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,956,401)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,718,771)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,937,531)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (86,964,270)
Message 64631 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013 | 18:30:54 UTC - in response to Message 64602.

So we estimate a month's PPS to do do we... Any idea if we can track how far we are through this? It's almost as though we've gained a challenge :)! What they've lost we've gained!

As of right this moment we're 47.5% through the workunits we're redoing.

I spent my GPU to make the 50% ...
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Message 64653 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013 | 17:08:33 UTC
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Dear Michael Goetz,

sorry about this.
i am a volunteer from Taiwan, Boinc @ Tawian.

would you please tall me and our team about the cheat way, that what and how to make fake data to gain scores?

in case willy a good leader, he support us hd7970 cards for BOINC.

i think he would not do cheat acts.

from antony wu

best regards,

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 64655 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013 | 18:09:59 UTC - in response to Message 64653.

would you please tall me and our team about the cheat way, that what and how to make fake data to gain scores?


I'm not going to discuss the details of how the cheating was done because we don't want to give any clues about what we detected. However, I will say that there is absolutely no doubt that the people involved were cheating, and knew they were cheating. There's no way this was accidental.

in case willy a good leader, he support us hd7970 cards for BOINC.

i think he would not do cheat acts.


Sadly, I'm afraid you're mistaken.

If Willy claims he didn't cheat, then he'll have to explain why the computers on his account were returning obviously fraudulent results. Before anything was announced here, and before the credits were removed, I sent messages via both email and private message to Willy and all the other cheaters. That was their opportunity to claim innocence. None of them responded. In fact, almost all of the emails bounced because the email addresses on most of their accounts were fake.
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Message 64660 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 8:26:01 UTC

Good job catching this. Not much you can do about human nature. Some people steal cars, some candy bars, I guess these people wanted to steal points.

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Message 64663 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 13:36:33 UTC

Progress report please Captain.

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Message 64665 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 14:38:41 UTC - in response to Message 64663.

Progress report please Captain.


On cheating? Nothing new, nor should there be.
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Message 64669 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 17:07:36 UTC - in response to Message 64665.

Progress report please Captain.


On cheating? Nothing new, nor should there be.


Perhaps he was asking about the % of work completed to make-up for the cheating rather than an update on the cheating itself?

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Message 64671 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 18:09:20 UTC

Aye-aye Scotty.

Sorry I appear to have gone all...sci-fi.

For the record GTX580 @ 844MHz gets PPS under 800 secs.

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Message 64672 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 18:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 64663.
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Progress report please Captain.

Exactly 54% done. I originally figured this as somewhere around 40 days worth of work when we started on 2 April. At the moment it's looking more like 48-50 days total.

If you check the PPS Sieve Range Statistics, you can see how far we're progressing. We were at 277P-278P before I loaded the ranges that needed to be redone. And if you're looking closely at that page, please be aware that the factors found get archived (and the stats set back to zero) at 26 minutes past each hour. We're finding about 2000 factors/hour at the moment.

When all this is done, the server will automatically start sending out work from where we were previously. It's not something we have to switch back manually.

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Message 64673 - Posted: 28 Apr 2013 | 19:00:11 UTC

Holy wow never seen that before. Ty.

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Holy wow never seen that before. Ty.


Unfortunately, some of us have seen cheating before. Reading this thread reminded me about Wate so I looked at his list of 5335 computers again. Here they are on CPDN. Apart from Wate himself, the owners of the other computers didn't know that BOINC was on their computers until one observant owner noticed it and got in touch with members of the Boinc Italy team who then investigated.

I see that in some CPDN database upgrade this cheat has accidentally got his almost four million credits back (at that time this was a phenomenal number) so after all this time I'll have to get him minussed again.

Some people just don't realise that sooner or later cheats will be exposed.

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PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,146)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (278,825)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,058)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,078)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,172)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,835,201)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,349)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (679,244)
Message 64689 - Posted: 29 Apr 2013 | 16:33:58 UTC

When a lot of us have only small computers and give as much computing time as they can, just for the pleasure of participating in some progress, a few others cheat to get points, to be the firsts on a list. What a shame !
Kick them out from BOINC.
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Message 64700 - Posted: 29 Apr 2013 | 19:30:59 UTC

I was referring to the page showing progress through sieving.

Bet when you realised there was cheating going on at CPDN, you went: "wate a minute..." ;)!

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Message 64986 - Posted: 6 May 2013 | 8:57:07 UTC - in response to Message 64655.
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i think maybe some of Boinc@Taiwan member, us can turn our favor projects to PG if you would restart these work units.

When restart, please tell me.

i want to say, no volunteer one needs to cheat to gain score, it means nothing.

the resources we spend out were more and more then we gained.

sorry for poor English.....

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Message 64987 - Posted: 6 May 2013 | 8:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 64986.
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Sorry for repost it.

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Message 64989 - Posted: 6 May 2013 | 10:10:09 UTC

Captain: progress report.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 64990 - Posted: 6 May 2013 | 10:48:08 UTC - in response to Message 64986.

i think maybe some of Boinc@Taiwan member, us can turn our favor projects to PG if you would restart these work units.

When restart, please tell me.

i want to say, no volunteer one needs to cheat to gain score, it means nothing.

the resources we spend out were more and more then we gained.

sorry for poor English.....


The restart is in progress right now. It started at the beginning of April.
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Message 65062 - Posted: 7 May 2013 | 20:10:39 UTC

3 Dutch Power Cows 6032689.05

corectly computing ????

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The following teams (team ID: team name) have lost credits:

64: BOINC@Taiwan
1: BOINCstats
103: Dutch Power Cows
2887: TaiwanROC

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,045,502)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 65074 - Posted: 7 May 2013 | 22:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 65062.

3 Dutch Power Cows 6032689.05

corectly computing ????


I don't understand your question.
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Message 65094 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 12:04:51 UTC - in response to Message 64989.
Last modified: 21 May 2013 | 20:08:21 UTC

Captain: progress report.

We're 72% done at the moment. We ought to be done by the end of May or maybe a bit sooner.

Update: 14-May-2013: 84.5% done

Update: 18-May-2013: 92.3% done. Should be done in four more days at the rate we're going.

Update 21-May-2013: 98.2% done. Between 1 and 2 days left.

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Message 65095 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 12:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 65074.

3 Dutch Power Cows 6032689.05

corectly computing ????


I don't understand your question.


I think kiki is confusing the PPS Sieve challenge at the conclusion of last year with the current challenge.
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Message 65098 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 14:35:58 UTC - in response to Message 65095.

Yes, I mean, if the calculations are correct Dutch Power Cows and again not fraud.

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Message 65103 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 15:57:55 UTC - in response to Message 65098.

Yes, I mean, if the calculations are correct Dutch Power Cows and again not fraud.


I'm still not sure what you're asking, but since the number you included is DPC's score in THIS challenge (The Low Country Festivities Challenge), I'll guess that you're asking if the team numbers are correct for the last challenge.

The answer is YES, the numbers are correct. The cheating scandal does not affect the most recent challenge in any way.

The only challenge that was affected by the cheating was the 2012 Winter Solstice Challenge.
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Message 65133 - Posted: 9 May 2013 | 6:47:55 UTC - in response to Message 65103.

thanks

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Message 65471 - Posted: 17 May 2013 | 17:38:10 UTC - in response to Message 65094.

Captain: progress report.

We're 72% done at the moment. We ought to be done by the end of May or maybe a bit sooner.

Update: 14-May-2013: 84.5% done

Thanks for providing regular updates.
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Message 65724 - Posted: 22 May 2013 | 21:36:54 UTC

All the PPS Sieve jobs we were redoing have now been turned into workunits. Thank you everyone who's been participating in this subproject.

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