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Number crunching :
4070 Ti benchmarks
(Message 162763)
Posted 18 days ago by Chooka
Thank you for taking the time to post that tng!
The one thing I love about my 4070Ti is how much more efficient it is compared to my 3070Ti!
I couldn't justify the extra cost to buy a 4080 and I'm happy with my INNO X3D OC (though I should have bought the non OC) and it's a dual slot card! I could add more if I wanted to without it being too cramped in the case.
Sorry this is a bit off topic but regarding power usage right now running some Einstein work, the 3070Ti pulls 280W. Same work done with the 4070Ti = 164W. Amazing.
Only down side appears to be that NVIDIA gimped the memory bus on the 4070Ti.
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Cullen/Woodall prime search :
Cullen Woodall Sieve Resumed
(Message 162334)
Posted 31 days ago by Chooka
I'm unsure of the size of these wu's. Is everyone just running 1 at a time?
If not, is there a app_config file to increase to 0.5 (2 wu's)?
Edit - I think I see the answer. 1 wu runs at 100% and pulls quite the draw on a 4070Ti. (240W)
Ouch.
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International Women's Day Challenge
(Message 160981)
Posted 92 days ago by Chooka
69
:D
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Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160871)
Posted 99 days ago by Chooka
Congrats Scott on your 100. Any which way you look at it, it's a huge number.
Congrats to tng on the largest prime too.
Thank you to the organisers for another TdP.
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Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160843)
Posted 100 days ago by Chooka
Trotador must be wishing hard for one more Mega.
I would be. The sniff of the green jersey.
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Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160840)
Posted 101 days ago by Chooka
FINALLY found my second MEGA! Geez that took a long time and many, many wu's crunched.
Phew!
I can pretty much wind down now :)
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Number crunching :
Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160763)
Posted 104 days ago by Chooka
All good Michael, no harm done mate :)
I enjoy Primegrid and you guys do a fantastic job of running this project. It is hands down one of the best run projects.
Good luck to all for the last remaining days.
I must admit though...... I thought it was going to be easier than what it has been to find another MEGA. It's proving VERY elusive. Much tougher than I thought.
I wonder if anyone will find another GFN 18 to pip tng at the finish line.
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Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160759)
Posted 104 days ago by Chooka
I'm happy knowing I haven't "bought" my badges :) All my finds were mine, with my hardware.
This is the part I simply don't understand. Every prime I have. Every badge I have. Every credit I have. I have "bought".
With real money. With MY money. A tiny, miniscule fraction of a percent of that was spent on cloud servers. The rest was my equipment on my electric bill.
I fail to see why it's different if my purchase was for CPUs and disk drives and electricity directly, or indirectly by renting the hardware instead of purchasing it? Either way, how much computing power I have available is a function of my willingness to spend my money on computing. It's always been about "buying primes", even long before cloud computing existed. The people with the big wallets generally have an advantage in... well, everything. BOINC is no exception.
Is that fair? Certainly not. Do I like it? Not one bit. Do I think cloud computing changes the equation? Well, yes it does.
I think it makes it fairer for the little guys, giving them a chance to, for a few days, operate at a higher level than they could otherwise. It levels the playing field.
My imagination is rather limited, and the only reasons I can think of for opposing making the "game" fairer and more fun for everyone are rather uncharitable, so I'd prefer to hear your reasons instead.
Most importantly, however, let's look away from the self-centered viewpoint of "how does it affect me?" BOINC isn't about us. It's about us helping scientists with their computing needs. Without a doubt, cloud computing adds a lot of computing power to what's available to BOINC projects to get done what they're trying to achieve, whether it's finding primes or curing cancer.
Having no double checker has leveled the playing field a bit. No doubt about that. It's been the best thing for PG and those with less up to date hardware.
"My imagination is rather limited, and the only reasons I can think of for opposing making the "game" fairer and more fun for everyone are rather uncharitable, so I'd prefer to hear your reasons instead."
TdP is like a competition. Sure it's within the rules to use your own hardware or rent pc's to crunch with. But that's alo like turning up to race day with your family car and the bloke next to you hires a Ferrari for the day (or a few of them with drivers) to compete against you. Guess who will win.
To that extent, the playing field is not level (but within the rules so it becomes a can't beat em, join em thing.)
"Most importantly, however, let's look away from the self-centered viewpoint of "how does it affect me?"
You are suggesting I'm self centered which I disagree with. The mountain stage was all about "me" No offence to boss but he loaded up on rented pc's and won the jersey. Well done to him but he did that with the intent on winning which he was successful at. Please don't make out like I'm the one being self centered.
It just comes down to personal choice Michael. I personally couldn't borrow a pc, find something then claim it was mine by using something that wasn't actually mine.
Regardless of this topic, I'm still drawn to TdP and enjoy finding primes.
Thank you for all your hardwork and you're welcome for the time & money that I invest in PG :)
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Number crunching :
Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160740)
Posted 105 days ago by Chooka
The amount of GFN-16 being done continues to be unprecedented. The first GFN-16 prime of TdP 2023 had a b of 186 million. We're currently above 241 million. That's an increase of 55 million in less than 23 days. By contrast, it took 10 years to do the first 55 million in the project. In fact, we were at b=55 million only 3 years ago
I guess that's thanks to cloud computing.
There is this perception out there that 99.999999999999% of our computing is being done by bogymen running phantom virtual cloud computers in orbit around Venus. Or something just as silly.
Yes, cloud computing is a thing, and for ONE DAY (the Mountain Stage) it was actually a big thing, but most of the time it's a relatively small presence. People aren't en-masse deciding to take out a second mortgage to either buy more computers, or to rent a bunch of computers. Certainly not for a whole month. For a day, it's fun. For a month, it's real money.
To help set perceptions straight, it should also be noted that even on that one day the majority of primes was not found by cloud computers - unlike in last year's Mountain Stage!
In addition to the advances in software and hardware leading to the massive leading edge advance this month, GFN-16 was also just not all that "interesting" in the past: Yes, it has been the most promising option for finding a Top5k prime on a GPU for several years, but there were much more attractive options on CPU until recently (PPSE until last year's TdP, PPS and MEGA until fast DC was introduced for GFN a few months ago). In all the years since it was migrated from PRPNet to BOINC, there was only one GFN-16 challenge (Pierre de Fermat's Birthday Challenge in November 2017) and that was together with GFN-15 and GFN-17-Low (which, according to my notes, were more efficient in terms of points per run time during that challenge). Finally, all GFN subprojects count towards the same badge, so the badge hunters also had no particular reason to crunch GFN-16.
Hmm for give me for saying pschoefer but are you sure about that statement? Most found on the 19th weren't via cloud services?
There must not have been much in it if true.
@Michael, true there's no boogy man out there but it's also true that the top say 5 prime finders have been assisted by rented pc's. (exclude bcavnaugh) Yes hardware has also come a long way. Look at all those GFN-18's so far! Incredible.
I guess whatever floats ya boat.
I'm happy knowing I haven't "bought" my badges :) All my finds were mine, with my hardware. personally I value that. To me this is just a topic of conversation. I don't get fired up over it like some will.
I'm sure we can all agree though, that primegrid is the real winner. I do enjoy this project and you admin do a fantastic job. hats off to you.
Thank you for all the hard work you put in.
Now.... where is that last elusive MEGA I'm chasing!!
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Number crunching :
Tour de Primes 2023
(Message 160720)
Posted 105 days ago by Chooka
The amount of GFN-16 being done continues to be unprecedented. The first GFN-16 prime of TdP 2023 had a b of 186 million. We're currently above 241 million. That's an increase of 55 million in less than 23 days. By contrast, it took 10 years to do the first 55 million in the project. In fact, we were at b=55 million only 3 years ago
I guess that's thanks to cloud computing.
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