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Peter Hucker
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (127,924)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,513)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,984)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (37,821)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,574)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,452,523)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (89,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,430)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (123,013)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,102,067)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,292,015)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,517,762)WW Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,308,000)
Message 156093 - Posted: 29 Jun 2022 | 11:57:01 UTC

What's going on here? I have a computer with 5 GPUs. I set it to get 0+1 days work on the Boinc preferences. I set the site preferences to get only genefer extreme. The computer has downloaded 87 tasks. I think they take about 4 or 5 days each on each GPU, although Boinc has them down as 21 days. Which means Boinc has downloaded what it thinks is 1339 days work.

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Message 156095 - Posted: 29 Jun 2022 | 15:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 156093.

What's going on here? I have a computer with 5 GPUs. I set it to get 0+1 days work on the Boinc preferences. I set the site preferences to get only genefer extreme. The computer has downloaded 87 tasks. I think they take about 4 or 5 days each on each GPU, although Boinc has them down as 21 days. Which means Boinc has downloaded what it thinks is 1339 days work.


When you switch the kinds of tasks it needs to rework the settings and this is a fairly common thing, I think it takes about 10 tasks to get things straightened out.

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Message 156096 - Posted: 29 Jun 2022 | 15:56:25 UTC - in response to Message 156095.
Last modified: 29 Jun 2022 | 15:58:43 UTC

What's going on here? I have a computer with 5 GPUs. I set it to get 0+1 days work on the Boinc preferences. I set the site preferences to get only genefer extreme. The computer has downloaded 87 tasks. I think they take about 4 or 5 days each on each GPU, although Boinc has them down as 21 days. Which means Boinc has downloaded what it thinks is 1339 days work.


When you switch the kinds of tasks it needs to rework the settings and this is a fairly common thing, I think it takes about 10 tasks to get things straightened out.

I can understand the prediction of time to complete a task to be out. But I cannot understand it ignoring its own estimate. It was out by miles, either by reality or by its prediction.

Anyway, the extremes crashed the old Tahitis, so I tried to put them back to genefer 15, by which time the server was annoyed at me aborting 4 years of tasks I never asked for and refused to give me anything. Back to folding at home for that PC.

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Message 156110 - Posted: 30 Jun 2022 | 12:59:41 UTC

NEVER (or rarely) use "NO LIMIT" for maximum # of simultaneous tasks.
Always set it to a reasonable number for the task queue you want.
It's easy to change, and it's better than downloading hundreds of tasks you don't want.
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Message 156115 - Posted: 30 Jun 2022 | 15:06:31 UTC - in response to Message 156110.
Last modified: 30 Jun 2022 | 15:06:43 UTC

NEVER (or rarely) use "NO LIMIT" for maximum # of simultaneous tasks.
Always set it to a reasonable number for the task queue you want.
It's easy to change, and it's better than downloading hundreds of tasks you don't want.

This sort of thing should be automatic, especially when I might sometimes get huge tasks and sometimes tiny ones. The genefer 15s get done in minutes, I clearly want hundreds of those.

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Message 156126 - Posted: 1 Jul 2022 | 12:47:14 UTC - in response to Message 156115.

NEVER (or rarely) use "NO LIMIT" for maximum # of simultaneous tasks.
Always set it to a reasonable number for the task queue you want.
It's easy to change, and it's better than downloading hundreds of tasks you don't want.


This sort of thing should be automatic, especially when I might sometimes get huge tasks and sometimes tiny ones. The genefer 15s get done in minutes, I clearly want hundreds of those.


For some projects the idea is to get you to crunch their tasks as opposed to another projects tasks, so it project sends you 4 years of tasks project b won't get any tasks crunched for a long time. Believe it or not alot of people just keep on crunching despite getting unwanted tasks.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,847,031)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,659,368)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,037,630)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,902,645)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (94,124,029)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,256,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 156132 - Posted: 1 Jul 2022 | 14:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 156126.

NEVER (or rarely) use "NO LIMIT" for maximum # of simultaneous tasks.
Always set it to a reasonable number for the task queue you want.
It's easy to change, and it's better than downloading hundreds of tasks you don't want.


This sort of thing should be automatic, especially when I might sometimes get huge tasks and sometimes tiny ones. The genefer 15s get done in minutes, I clearly want hundreds of those.


For some projects the idea is to get you to crunch their tasks as opposed to another projects tasks, so it project sends you 4 years of tasks project b won't get any tasks crunched for a long time. Believe it or not alot of people just keep on crunching despite getting unwanted tasks.



There is absolutely no truth to this. Where did you get this (dis)information?
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Message 156136 - Posted: 1 Jul 2022 | 15:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 156132.
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For some projects the idea is to get you to crunch their tasks as opposed to another projects tasks, so it project sends you 4 years of tasks project b won't get any tasks crunched for a long time. Believe it or not alot of people just keep on crunching despite getting unwanted tasks.

There is absolutely no truth to this. Where did you get this (dis)information?

I don't know about what Mikey said, but Collatz certainly uses a similar tactic by giving out more credits than everyone else.

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Message 156137 - Posted: 1 Jul 2022 | 16:08:05 UTC - in response to Message 156136.

For some projects the idea is to get you to crunch their tasks as opposed to another projects tasks, so it project sends you 4 years of tasks project b won't get any tasks crunched for a long time. Believe it or not alot of people just keep on crunching despite getting unwanted tasks.

There is absolutely no truth to this. Where did you get this (dis)information?

I don't know about what Mikey said, but Collatz certainly uses a similar tactic by giving out more credits than everyone else.


Indeed they do.
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Message 156143 - Posted: 1 Jul 2022 | 23:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 156137.
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I don't know about what Mikey said, but Collatz certainly uses a similar tactic by giving out more credits than everyone else.

Indeed they do.

In this case "they" should be singular. It's just one guy in his house. currently moving house.

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Message 156145 - Posted: 2 Jul 2022 | 1:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 156143.

In this case "they" should be singular. It's just one guy in his house. currently moving house.

The glamour has been ruined for me! :)
P.S It really hasn't - crunching is still glamorous.

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Message 156154 - Posted: 2 Jul 2022 | 10:38:42 UTC - in response to Message 156145.
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In this case "they" should be singular. It's just one guy in his house. currently moving house.

The glamour has been ruined for me! :)
P.S It really hasn't - crunching is still glamorous.

I think it's a power hungry control thing. Seeing all those computers running :-) I've got rather addicted and have 9 CPUs, 13 GPUs, 3 smartphones, and a power consumption of 4369W.

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Discovered 2 mega primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,229,892)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,296,792)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,681,647)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,811)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (944,431)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,416,586)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,736,649)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,048,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 156180 - Posted: 4 Jul 2022 | 12:05:49 UTC - in response to Message 156132.

NEVER (or rarely) use "NO LIMIT" for maximum # of simultaneous tasks.
Always set it to a reasonable number for the task queue you want.
It's easy to change, and it's better than downloading hundreds of tasks you don't want.


This sort of thing should be automatic, especially when I might sometimes get huge tasks and sometimes tiny ones. The genefer 15s get done in minutes, I clearly want hundreds of those.


For some projects the idea is to get you to crunch their tasks as opposed to another projects tasks, so it project sends you 4 years of tasks project b won't get any tasks crunched for a long time. Believe it or not alot of people just keep on crunching despite getting unwanted tasks.



There is absolutely no truth to this. Where did you get this (dis)information?


To be fair I was speaking after just deleting over 2000 running tasks on a single pc with a 1.5 day cache and an additional 0.5 day cache on a pc with 6 cores with each task taking over 3.5 hours to finish and a resource share of just 1, I use 100 as my max!! NO it was not PG obviously as you guys are MUCH better at respecting cache and resource settings than that, that project, which I will leave unnamed, now has over well over 4k of just resends to handle!!!!

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (127,924)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,513)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,984)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (37,821)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,574)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,452,523)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (89,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,430)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (123,013)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,102,067)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,292,015)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,517,762)WW Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,308,000)
Message 156181 - Posted: 4 Jul 2022 | 12:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 156180.

To be fair I was speaking after just deleting over 2000 running tasks on a single pc with a 1.5 day cache and an additional 0.5 day cache on a pc with 6 cores with each task taking over 3.5 hours to finish and a resource share of just 1, I use 100 as my max!! NO it was not PG obviously as you guys are MUCH better at respecting cache and resource settings than that, that project, which I will leave unnamed, now has over well over 4k of just resends to handle!!!!
Are you sure that's deliberate on their part, or just the Boinc software being it's usual stupid self?

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (186,168)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (189,022)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (128,326)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (115,730)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,950,250)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (132,546)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (433,700)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (191,752)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (167,333)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,020)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,446)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,006,012)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,740,001)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,282,493)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,708)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (527,925)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,664,419)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,779,516)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,196,000)
Message 156189 - Posted: 5 Jul 2022 | 7:40:51 UTC - in response to Message 156181.

There is a n NEW "Development Version" of BOINC 7.20.1 that has been released for testing. It's supposed to eliminate the mass downloading / flooding PC of excess tasks.
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Release Notes

Changes in 7.20.1
Manager: Updated copyright year
Manager: Create proper sizing on SimpleView|
Client: ignore case in project lookup by URL
Client: if project has zero resource share AND work buf min is zero, don't fetch from it unless device instance is actually idle.
Manager, Win: Do proper verifications when saving state on application exit
Manager, Linux: Search for skins in /usr/(local)/share/boinc-manager/skins or ./skins folders.


Changes in 7.20.0
Client: detect > 4 GB RAM on NIVIDIA GPUs
Client: use system's OS bundle rather than our own
Manager: show appropriate Welcome Page on first run.
Client: pass process priority to wrapper
Client: disable GET feature of GUI RPC
Manager: add ctrl-A shortcut to go to advanced view
Client: allow empty GUI RPC password but show warning
Client (linux): Ignore tty(S|ACM) devices in TTY idle time calculation
Client: display IPV6 addresses correctly
Client: don't tell Manager that graphics app exists if it's still downloading
Manager: fix alt-space crash
Manager: fix RTL languages in disk view
Client: add reset_host_info() GUI RPC
Client: put CDATA around link field of notices
Client: fix problems with set_app_config() RPC
Client: fix overly aggressive project-wide file transfer backoff policy
Client: fix work-fetch logic when max concurrent limits are used
Manager: add "Suspend when no mouse/keyboard input in last XX minutes" to prefs dialog
Manager: correctly handle large numbers in prefs
Manager (Win): Make Manager DPI unaware to let wxWidgets and Windows scale GUI elements properly
Manager: fix failure to connect to client with non-English language
Client (Win): fix detection of Windows product
Client: Fix bug in new version check
Mac: fix screensaver preferences dialog under MacOS 12 Monterey
Mac: ensure curl does not depend on unavailable libraries
Mac: use newer libraries: c-ares-1.17.2, curl-7.79.1, freetype-2.11.0, openssl-3.0.0, wxWidgets-3.1.5


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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,109,047)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,176,639)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,281,780)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,462,816)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,668,439)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,255,208)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,058,625)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,026,764)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,188,040)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,822,692)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,231,615)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,003,334)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (310,223,017)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (210,781,805)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (208,005,954)WW Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,100,000,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,000,001)
Message 156191 - Posted: 5 Jul 2022 | 13:33:57 UTC

Dispite his whinging Mr A does care after all!

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (127,924)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,513)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,984)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (37,821)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,574)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,452,523)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (89,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,430)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (123,013)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,102,067)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,292,015)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,517,762)WW Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,308,000)
Message 156192 - Posted: 5 Jul 2022 | 13:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 156191.

Dispite his whinging Mr A does care after all!
I've never actually seen him do anything I don't like. He might not make the best decisions, but he's trying. What we need are real programmers instead of one wannabe programmer who can't get an actual paid job.

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Discovered 2 mega primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,229,892)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,296,792)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,681,647)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,811)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (944,431)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,416,586)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,736,649)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,048,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 156193 - Posted: 5 Jul 2022 | 15:15:10 UTC - in response to Message 156192.

Dispite his whinging Mr A does care after all!


I've never actually seen him do anything I don't like. He might not make the best decisions, but he's trying. What we need are real programmers instead of one wannabe programmer who can't get an actual paid job.


I think he's still a Professor at University of California Berkeley but haven't checked in a while

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (127,924)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,513)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,984)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (37,821)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,574)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,452,523)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (89,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,430)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (123,013)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,102,067)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,292,015)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,517,762)WW Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,308,000)
Message 156194 - Posted: 5 Jul 2022 | 15:32:06 UTC - in response to Message 156193.

I think he's still a Professor at University of California Berkeley but haven't checked in a while
I meant his assistant. I don't think David does any programming.

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Discovered 1 AP26321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,134,676)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,742,291)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,297,769)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,967,424)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,661,563)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,962,022)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,106,224)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,808,359)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,013,603)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,592,140)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,243,404)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (109,097,449)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,586,050)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (89,739,391)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,796)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,585)AP 26/27 Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,935,032,359)GFN Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (5,987,666,290)WW Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (4,104,984,000)
Message 156197 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 2:38:51 UTC - in response to Message 156189.

There is a NEW "Development Version" of BOINC 7.20.1 that has been released for testing. It's supposed to eliminate the mass downloading / flooding PC of excess tasks.
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
. . .
Client: if project has zero resource share AND work buf min is zero, don't fetch from it unless device instance is actually idle.


Tried it on one of my hosts.

- PrimeGrid Resource Share=0
- Store at least 0 days of work
- Store up to an additional 0 days of work
- 16C/32T CPU
- 3 GPU
- Use at most 50% of the CPUs
- Running LLR apps with Multithreading=4 in Primegrid project preferences on the web
- Therefore, already have (32*50%)/4=4 tasks running
- End up with anywhere from 1 to 3 CPU tasks in "Ready to start (4 CPUs)" status
- Similar story with the GPU: despite all being busy, there seems to be always at least 1 GPU task downloaded, waiting.

Oh well...

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Discovered 1 AP26321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,134,676)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,742,291)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,297,769)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,967,424)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,661,563)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,962,022)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,106,224)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,808,359)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,013,603)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,592,140)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,243,404)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (109,097,449)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,586,050)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (89,739,391)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,796)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,585)AP 26/27 Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,935,032,359)GFN Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (5,987,666,290)WW Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (4,104,984,000)
Message 156198 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 3:18:29 UTC
Last modified: 6 Jul 2022 | 3:23:09 UTC

https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/pull/2837 is the pull what had broken the 0/0/0 not pre-fetching back in 2018 by introducing a 3min prefetch at all times to avoid idle time, and https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/4396 seems to be the fix that went into 7.20.1 by the pull https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/pull/4800, the actual code change being https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/pull/4800/commits/4c7657ae9c7c61a6e98532beb7b8f098cb0b28be, in case anyone here can tell why it is not working. It feels like as my GPU tasks have 2m30s estimated remaining, shortly thereafter a prefetch happens.

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Discovered 1 AP26321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,134,676)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,742,291)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,297,769)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,967,424)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,661,563)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,962,022)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,106,224)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,808,359)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,013,603)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,592,140)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,243,404)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (109,097,449)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,586,050)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (89,739,391)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,796)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,585)AP 26/27 Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,935,032,359)GFN Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (5,987,666,290)WW Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (4,104,984,000)
Message 156199 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 3:42:32 UTC

And, by setting the <work_fetch_debug> flag in my cc_config.xml, here is a snippet, starting with an instance of correct state, then ending up with "buffer low":

. . .
CORRECT STATE: 7/5/2022 8:35:52 PM | PrimeGrid | can't fetch NVIDIA GPU: zero resource share
7/5/2022 8:35:52 PM | | [work_fetch] No project chosen for work fetch
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | choose_project(): 1657078612.772133
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] ------- start work fetch state -------
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] target work buffer: 180.00 + 0.00 sec
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] --- project states ---
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | [work_fetch] REC 5378101.528 prio -0.021 can request work
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] --- state for CPU ---
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00 saturated 2433.06 busy 0.00
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | [work_fetch] share 0.000 zero resource share
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] --- state for NVIDIA GPU ---
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] shortfall 28.82 nidle 0.00 saturated 151.18 busy 0.00
BAD DECISION: 7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | [work_fetch] share 1.000
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | | [work_fetch] ------- end work fetch state -------
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | choose_project: scanning
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | can't fetch CPU: zero resource share
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | can fetch NVIDIA GPU
BAD STATE: 7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | NVIDIA GPU needs work - buffer low
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | checking CPU
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | CPU don't need
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | checking NVIDIA GPU
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | NVIDIA GPU set_request: 1.000000
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | [work_fetch] request: CPU (0.00 sec, 0.00 inst) NVIDIA GPU (1.00 sec, 0.00 inst)
7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
BAD ACTION: 7/5/2022 8:36:52 PM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
7/5/2022 8:36:54 PM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
. . .

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Message 156200 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 3:57:25 UTC

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Message 156201 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 4:47:09 UTC

Is a waiting task (for 3 or so minutes) really that bad? For a large portion of my "fast" gpu tasks the time difference between the tasks sent between my computer and my wingman is greater than the 3 minute idle time. Sometimes in my favor sometimes not. So for me having a task sit idle is not really a problem.
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Message 156203 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 8:11:19 UTC

It can be yes. Ppl have missed out on primes by a matter of seconds. Possibly an M badge. Or a K. Etc.

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Message 156205 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 8:34:15 UTC - in response to Message 156201.

Is a waiting task (for 3 or so minutes) really that bad? For a large portion of my "fast" gpu tasks the time difference between the tasks sent between my computer and my wingman is greater than the 3 minute idle time. Sometimes in my favor sometimes not. So for me having a task sit idle is not really a problem.

I push my equipment quite hard - 2 or 3 seconds of not working gives time for it to have a break. I have 70 degrees C as the max temp, but I have let that go to 71 or 72 on the newer GPUs.
All GPUs now are let do do what they want with fan speeds - when Summer comes round, I will probably make those speeds higher - until it gets too hot to run the GPUs.
The new mbs have helped because the VRM/mosfet temps are well under control now, otherwise I'd be dialing in AVX512 offset. 80 degrees C is the number for me to keep below.

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Message 156207 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 10:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 156205.

I push my equipment quite hard - 2 or 3 seconds of not working gives time for it to have a break. I have 70 degrees C as the max temp, but I have let that go to 71 or 72 on the newer GPUs.
All GPUs now are let do do what they want with fan speeds - when Summer comes round, I will probably make those speeds higher - until it gets too hot to run the GPUs.
The new mbs have helped because the VRM/mosfet temps are well under control now, otherwise I'd be dialing in AVX512 offset. 80 degrees C is the number for me to keep below.
I do the following: Fan off to 50C. Fan rises to half speed 50-70C. Fan rises to full speed 70-80C. I do something about it (more cooling, better fan, better heatsink paste, lower clock) if it reaches 90C. Things crash or break at 100C.

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Message 156208 - Posted: 6 Jul 2022 | 10:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 156203.

It can be yes. Ppl have missed out on primes by a matter of seconds. Possibly an M badge. Or a K. Etc.


I would suspect that the CPU/GPU plays a far greater role in coming in first than the couple minute delay between receiving and starting a task. And there are now far more tasks that have forgone the wingman for which the start time is now moot. However, SGS, GFN, AP27, and WW still need wingmen.

If one had access to the DB (which I don't) they could find out how many tasks were turned in second place but less than 3 minutes after the first place...and then calculate the number of those that actually were for a prime. Possibility vs probability, a few seconds may make a difference but I would bet that the odds would show otherwise.
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I would suspect that the CPU/GPU plays a far greater role in coming in first than the couple minute delay between receiving and starting a task.

I have 2 very keen GPUs that are getting 80% firsts with WW - actually that is really good. It was about 2/3 before. I suppose it may depend on what equipment is being used elsewhere?
If any of my GPUs drop below 60% firsts I will wonder what is going on.
If above 80% same.
OK the 3090Ti is 81.39% firsts on WW.
But this is in reference to the others.
It is slightly above normal for the firsts I am getting with WW right now over all the GPUs.

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Message 156214 - Posted: 7 Jul 2022 | 0:47:56 UTC - in response to Message 156201.

Is a waiting task (for 3 or so minutes) really that bad? For a large portion of my "fast" gpu tasks the time difference between the tasks sent between my computer and my wingman is greater than the 3 minute idle time. Sometimes in my favor sometimes not. So for me having a task sit idle is not really a problem.


Sometimes. If you're running DYFL it doesn't matter at all. But if you're running GFN-15 on a fast GPU, that 3 minute hit is HUGE. The average run time is under three minutes, and fast GPUs can do them a lot faster than that. Adding 3 minutes significantly hinders your chances of being first if the other guy doesn't have that delay.
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Message 156216 - Posted: 7 Jul 2022 | 17:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 156200.

Reported as https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/4827

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A fix has been made by David Anderson and tested by me. I'll post here when it is released.

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Discovered 1 AP26321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,134,676)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,742,291)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,297,769)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,967,424)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,661,563)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,962,022)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,106,224)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,808,359)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,013,603)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,592,140)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,243,404)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (109,097,449)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,586,050)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (89,739,391)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,796)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,585)AP 26/27 Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,935,032,359)GFN Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (5,987,666,290)WW Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (4,104,984,000)
Message 156217 - Posted: 7 Jul 2022 | 18:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 156216.

Reported as https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/4827

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A fix has been made by David Anderson and tested by me. I'll post here when it is released.

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One caveat I discovered just now after rolling the private release to all my hosts, which seems fair to remain as a behavior.

Out of my 8 hosts, 2 were still fetching one extra CPU task. Turns out, those were the hosts with 6C/12T at 50% CPU setting, and with my thread setting in PG prefs being 4 for LLR, only one task could run using 4 threads, but BOINC 7.20.1+ still sees that there is 2C capacity left on the CPU, therefore requests a PG task, downloads it, which needs 4 threads, therefore starts waiting.

I think this is a very special case given how PG prefs allow things like this, so I will not pursue getting this fixed. I "solved" the issue by creating a PG location to use only 3T per LLR task, put those hosts into that location, therefore these two hosts now get 2 such tasks, and BOINC isn't trying to download a 3rd task.

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Message 156218 - Posted: 7 Jul 2022 | 20:47:35 UTC - in response to Message 156217.

One caveat I discovered just now after rolling the private release to all my hosts, which seems fair to remain as a behavior.

Out of my 8 hosts, 2 were still fetching one extra CPU task. Turns out, those were the hosts with 6C/12T at 50% CPU setting, and with my thread setting in PG prefs being 4 for LLR, only one task could run using 4 threads, but BOINC 7.20.1+ still sees that there is 2C capacity left on the CPU, therefore requests a PG task, downloads it, which needs 4 threads, therefore starts waiting.

I think this is a very special case given how PG prefs allow things like this, so I will not pursue getting this fixed. I "solved" the issue by creating a PG location to use only 3T per LLR task, put those hosts into that location, therefore these two hosts now get 2 such tasks, and BOINC isn't trying to download a 3rd task.

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That happens to me a lot with many multi-thread projects. The scheduler ain't too bright working out what fits where.

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Credit: 47,041,345
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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (593,283)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (611,298)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,818)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,799)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,774,723)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (428,457)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (466,812)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,142)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,277)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (476,246)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (281,400)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (175,037)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,113)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,231,842)WW Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,756,000)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 156254 - Posted: 9 Jul 2022 | 15:32:08 UTC

Tuna, thank you for reporting this, and testing the fix!

The day when people will no longer need to acquire ancient BOINC versions to optimize their 1st chances here on PrimeGrid, will be sweet.

/JeppeSN

AnandBhat
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Posts: 1
ID: 1492102
Credit: 24,174,822
RAC: 43,444
321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,612)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,846)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,805)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (137,351)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,342)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (254,369)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,260)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,403,719)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,514,746)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (355,772)WW Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,200,000)
Message 157031 - Posted: 18 Sep 2022 | 9:11:54 UTC

Are there cases where a host that requests work and never returns results is banned? Came across one such host (https://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=918437) who's been receiving work but has not returned any one of the 13,000+ tasks assigned to them since July.

State: All 13479 | In progress 576 | Pending | Inconclusive | Valid | Aborted | Invalid | Error 12903

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