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Message 155479 - Posted: 18 May 2022 | 22:27:04 UTC
Last modified: 19 May 2022 | 16:02:38 UTC

Welcome to the Geek Pride Day Challenge

The third challenge of the 2022 Series will be a 5-day challenge celebrating geeks, freaks, nerds, dorks, dweebs, and "weird" people of all kinds! The challenge will be offered on the GFN-19 subproject, beginning 25 May 18:00 UTC and ending 30 May 18:00 UTC.

May 25: ¡Feliz día del orgullo friki!
Geek Pride Day originated in 2006, when Spanish internet personality Señor Buebo created the Del Día Del Orgullo Friki website. It was originally a celebration of enthusiasts of traditionally-geeky franchises like Star Wars, Marvel Comics and so on. Today, though, when terms like "nerd" and "freak" are still sometimes used as insults, it's important to have a day to remember who we really are: people who are passionate about something! Whatever you love to geek out about, whether it's Minecraft, black holes, or prime numbers, you are part of one of the coolest, biggest, and weirdest communities in the universe!



To participate in the Challenge, please select only the GFN-19 subproject in your PrimeGrid preferences section.

Note: The deadline for some of these WUs is longer than five days, so make sure your computer is able to return the WUs within the challenge time-frame. Only tasks issued AFTER the start time and returned BEFORE the finish time will be counted.


Application Builds

    IMPORTANT: Overclocking -- including factory overclocking -- on Nvidia GPUs is very strongly discouraged. Even if your GPU can run other tasks without difficulty, it may be unable to run GFN tasks when overclocked.

    Supported platforms:
  • Windows: Nvidia GPU (OpenCL): 32 bit, AMD/ATI GPU (OpenCL): 32 bit, CPU: 64 bit, 32 bit
  • Linux: Nvidia GPU (OpenCL): 32 bit, 64 bit, AMD/ATI GPU (OpenCL): 32 bit, 64 bit, CPU: 64 bit, 32 bit
  • Mac: Nvidia GPU (OpenCL): 64 bit, AMD/ATI GPU (OpenCL): 64 bit, CPU: 64 bit, 32 bit




A Cautionary Reminder

    ATTENTION: The primality programs Genefer (for CPUs) and GeneferOCL (for GPUs) are computationally intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your CPU, and please see this post for tips on running GFN on your GPU successfully.

    As with all number crunching, excessive heat can potentially cause permanent hardware failure. Please ensure your cooling system is sufficient.

    GFN-19 WU's are currently averaging 40 hours on CPU (on one core) and 2 hours on GPU.
    For a general idea of how your GPU stacks up, you can have a look at the fastest GPUs list.

    If your CPU is highly overclocked, please consider "stress testing" it. Overclocking your GPU is not recommended at all for GeneferOCL. Sieving is an excellent alternative for computers that are not able to run Genefer. :)

    Please, please, please make sure your machines are up to the task.



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    NOTE: The countdown clock on the front page uses the host computer time. Therefore, if your computer time is off, so will the countdown clock. For precise timing, use the UTC Time in the data section to the left of the countdown clock.



Scoring information


    Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER May 25th 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE May 30th 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit.



At the Conclusion of the Challenge


    We kindly ask users "moving on" to ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

    ABORTING WU's alows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of a challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

    Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)



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Best of Luck to everyone!
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Message 155482 - Posted: 19 May 2022 | 6:11:30 UTC

Any new GFN-19 would come in on Top 60 of largest known primes.

Currently known and verified GFN-19 can be seen on
https://primes.utm.edu/primes/search.php?Description=%25%5E524288%2B1%24&Style=HTML
and
https://primes.utm.edu/top20/page.php?id=12.

Unusually many of them were found in 2018-2019. It will be two years since the last find, during the challenge.

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Message 155484 - Posted: 19 May 2022 | 10:49:42 UTC

Here is some information on multi-threading.
The allocated data size is 10 MB.
On processors with two memory channels, the throughput is generally optimal if the data size of all tasks is lower than the L3 cache size. For example, i7-11700K: L3 = 16 MB => 1 task; i7-12700K: L3 = 25 MB => 1 or 2 tasks; Ryzen 5950X: L3 = 2 x 32 MB => 6 tasks or less.
If the L3 cache size is below 10 MB, hyper-threading may increase the speed of genefer because two threads per core hide the memory latency.
Processors with four memory channels can be more efficient if the data size is greater than the L3 cache size.
On Ryzen processors with two CCX, it is recommanded that the affinity of genefer threads is set (see http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=9905).

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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (593,283)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (611,298)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,818)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,799)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,911,091)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (428,457)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (466,812)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,142)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,277)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (342,501)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,455)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (175,037)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,113)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,228,147)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,640,000)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 155504 - Posted: 20 May 2022 | 14:59:31 UTC

An early GFN-19: 4896418^524288 + 1. /JeppeSN

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Discovered 10 mega primesFound 16 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 15 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 22 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 17 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 4 mega primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,351,374)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,663,353)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,488,518)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,196,629)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (74,389,804)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,245,601)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,010,038)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,372,479)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,190,607)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,091,782)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,833,516)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,172,809)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,345,448)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (269,936,196)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (164,235)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,142,550)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,291,692)GFN Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (537,043,342)WW Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,796,000)PSA Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,142,791)
Message 155526 - Posted: 21 May 2022 | 22:51:27 UTC - in response to Message 155504.

An early GFN-19: 4896418^524288 + 1. /JeppeSN

NICE!

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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (593,283)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (611,298)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,818)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,799)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,911,091)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (428,457)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (466,812)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,142)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,277)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (342,501)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,455)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (175,037)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,113)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,228,147)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,640,000)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 155546 - Posted: 22 May 2022 | 12:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 155526.

So we did not quite reach the two-years mark before another one was found. /JeppeSN

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Discovered 65 mega primesEliminated 3 conjecture "k"sFound 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 2 mega primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 2 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 2 mega primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,400,495)Cullen LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,814,375)ESP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (73,880,409)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (66,597,607)PPS LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (470,001,355)PSP LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,970,333)SoB LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,624,508)SR5 LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (114,278,918)SGS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (54,295,707)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (61,785)TRP LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,088,428)Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,544,668)321 Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (63,039,849)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,685,309)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (53,324,439)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (4,046,649,997)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,057,785)TRP Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,146,560)AP 26/27 Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (504,799,060)GFN Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,913,318,389)WW Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,546,832,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (226,683,337)
Message 155559 - Posted: 22 May 2022 | 16:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 155546.

The last one I found: 2020-05-29 07:52:25 UTC

Quite close to two years.
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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,007,333)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,022,035)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,043,823)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,004,688)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,252,190)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,887,628)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,080,983)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,682,092)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,185,792)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,179,545)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,471)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,035,186)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,002,647)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (46,229,894)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (156,305)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,866,393)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (147,668,005)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (85,384,000)
Message 155560 - Posted: 22 May 2022 | 18:33:34 UTC - in response to Message 155484.

Here is some information on multi-threading.

Is this about multi-threading or just about the number of tasks?
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Message 155562 - Posted: 22 May 2022 | 22:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 155560.

Here is some information on multi-threading.

Is this about multi-threading or just about the number of tasks?

??? Both: number of tasks x number of threads = number of cores.

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Message 155568 - Posted: 23 May 2022 | 5:35:44 UTC - in response to Message 155562.

Here is some information on multi-threading.

Is this about multi-threading or just about the number of tasks?

??? Both: number of tasks x number of threads = number of cores.

I thought only GFN-21 could be multi-threaded.
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Discovered 2 mega primesEliminated 1 conjecture "k"321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (37,381,193)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,049,028)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,263,817)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,284,154)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,015,651)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,825,593)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,473,118)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,707,101)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,174,075)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,620,236)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (57,984,571)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,822,608)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (720,251)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,130,473)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (196,630,260)
Message 155572 - Posted: 23 May 2022 | 15:44:22 UTC

I believe it is a very recent addition. You control it through the MT control on the website, just like LLR.

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Message 155577 - Posted: 23 May 2022 | 22:01:25 UTC
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Seeing way to many Aborted Tasks as it seems to be the norm before a Challenge Series starts now.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,007,333)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,022,035)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,043,823)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,004,688)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,252,190)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,887,628)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,080,983)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,682,092)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,185,792)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,179,545)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,471)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,035,186)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,002,647)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (46,229,894)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (156,305)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,866,393)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (147,668,005)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (85,384,000)
Message 155607 - Posted: 25 May 2022 | 16:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 155572.

I believe it is a very recent addition. You control it through the MT control on the website, just like LLR.

I see.
Thx.
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (91,433)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (84,255)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,827)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (403,119)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (44,544)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,214)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (48,815)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (27,630)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (60,379)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (28,401)PPS Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (583,183)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (602,407)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,010,781)WW Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (264,000)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (690,640)
Message 155608 - Posted: 25 May 2022 | 17:21:19 UTC

Do I need to set max cpu threads to 1 for this challenge or is no limit better?

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Message 155621 - Posted: 26 May 2022 | 3:56:24 UTC

Last few posts are getting off topic folks... Consider this a warning before I start removing things.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,114)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,416,635)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,645,567)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,036,951)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,032,821)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,902,645)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,455,703)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,888,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 155633 - Posted: 26 May 2022 | 17:37:17 UTC - in response to Message 155621.

Last few posts are getting off topic folks... Consider this a warning before I start removing things.


This.

Lots of posts have been removed for being off topic.

When you post anything here, there's a bunch of rules prominently displayed just to the left of where you type the message. Besides being off topic, many of the posts also ran afoul of these rules, or came really close:


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Message 155641 - Posted: 26 May 2022 | 22:09:35 UTC

Day 1 is done, here are the stats!

Challenge: Geek Pride Day
App: 27 (GFN-19)
(As of 2022-05-26 21:57:30 UTC)

50502 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 14879 (29%) / 35623 (71%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

6254 (12%) were aborted. [1850 (4%) / 4404 (9%) / 0 (0%)]
2106 (4%) came back with some kind of an error. [494 (1%) / 1612 (3%) / 0 (0%)]
21603 (43%) have returned a successful result. [4367 (9%) / 17236 (34%) / 0 (0%)]
20539 (41%) are still in progress. [8168 (16%) / 12371 (24%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

8986 (42%) are pending validation. [1846 (9%) / 7140 (33%) / 0 (0%)]
12607 (58%) have been successfully validated. [2513 (12%) / 10094 (47%) / 0 (0%)]
8 (0%) were invalid. [7 (0%) / 1 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2 (0%) are inconclusive. [1 (0%) / 1 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is b=5083164. The leading edge was at b=4950146 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 2.69% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
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Message 155654 - Posted: 27 May 2022 | 22:21:06 UTC

Day 2 stats!

Challenge: Geek Pride Day
App: 27 (GFN-19)
(As of 2022-05-27 22:17:38 UTC)

80591 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 23213 (29%) / 57378 (71%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

9729 (12%) were aborted. [3553 (4%) / 6176 (8%) / 0 (0%)]
4341 (5%) came back with some kind of an error. [496 (1%) / 3845 (5%) / 0 (0%)]
45120 (56%) have returned a successful result. [9852 (12%) / 35268 (44%) / 0 (0%)]
21401 (27%) are still in progress. [9312 (12%) / 12089 (15%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

12925 (29%) are pending validation. [2820 (6%) / 10105 (22%) / 0 (0%)]
32178 (71%) have been successfully validated. [7021 (16%) / 25157 (56%) / 0 (0%)]
15 (0%) were invalid. [11 (0%) / 4 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2 (0%) are inconclusive. [0 (0%) / 2 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is b=5156284. The leading edge was at b=4950146 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 4.16% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
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Message 155655 - Posted: 27 May 2022 | 23:15:35 UTC

Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?

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Message 155656 - Posted: 27 May 2022 | 23:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 155655.
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Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

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Message 155662 - Posted: 28 May 2022 | 14:49:06 UTC

It does stink getting a lot of the recycled tasks if you really like being the prime finder. It is kind of why people look for primes to begin with.
But not much anyone can do about it.
Everyone has the same odds of getting said tasks so the best thing to do is not look at why you’re not the first returned.
Just look at what percent first you are and leave it at that.

Wish I could join in on this one.
Good luck finding some primes
See you next challenge.

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Message 155668 - Posted: 28 May 2022 | 19:02:14 UTC

Less than 48 hours remain! Daily stats:

Challenge: Geek Pride Day
App: 27 (GFN-19)
(As of 2022-05-28 19:01:40 UTC)

107522 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 28989 (27%) / 78533 (73%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

11341 (11%) were aborted. [3767 (4%) / 7574 (7%) / 0 (0%)]
7025 (7%) came back with some kind of an error. [505 (0%) / 6520 (6%) / 0 (0%)]
66959 (62%) have returned a successful result. [14759 (14%) / 52200 (49%) / 0 (0%)]
22197 (21%) are still in progress. [9958 (9%) / 12239 (11%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

14786 (22%) are pending validation. [3156 (5%) / 11630 (17%) / 0 (0%)]
52150 (78%) have been successfully validated. [11590 (17%) / 40560 (61%) / 0 (0%)]
21 (0%) were invalid. [13 (0%) / 8 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2 (0%) are inconclusive. [0 (0%) / 2 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is b=5229110. The leading edge was at b=4950146 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 5.64% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
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Message 155671 - Posted: 28 May 2022 | 22:48:14 UTC - in response to Message 155656.
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Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

Well my review is they are members that know what they are doing and doing before each Challenge.
You do not download 900 tasks and then aborted them and do the same the next day.
Most aborted tasks are Second run tasks and will not be 1st that is why I think know long time members do this.
I just do not care to complete tasks that have been aborted a day ago knowing that the tasks was completed already.

"Doesn't change anything in the challenge." But it is not all about the challenge but about finding the Prime.....
But I also see your Point.

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Message 155672 - Posted: 28 May 2022 | 23:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 155671.

Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

Well my review is they are members that know what they are doing and doing before each Challenge.
You do not download 900 tasks and then aborted them and do the same the next day.
Most aborted tasks are Second run tasks and will not be 1st that is why I think know long time members do this.
I just do not care to complete tasks that have been aborted a day ago knowing that the tasks was completed already.

"Doesn't change anything in the challenge." But it is not all about the challenge but about finding the Prime.....
But I also see your Point.


Keep in mind that badly updated drivers can cause lots of errors on GPU challenges. I have generally avoided that on my Windows machines, but it happened on one Ubuntu Linux box this time around that I did not notice for a bit. Can run through hundreds of erroring work units fairly quickly.


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Message 155673 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 0:38:29 UTC

Maybe they had large caches for the pentathlon and forgot to set it to zero for the PG challenge
Either way everyone has the same odds of getting those tasks if you’re set to zero cache.

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Message 155674 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 3:51:02 UTC - in response to Message 155671.
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Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

Well my review is they are members that know what they are doing and doing before each Challenge.
You do not download 900 tasks and then aborted them and do the same the next day.
Most aborted tasks are Second run tasks and will not be 1st that is why I think know long time members do this.
I just do not care to complete tasks that have been aborted a day ago knowing that the tasks was completed already.

"Doesn't change anything in the challenge." But it is not all about the challenge but about finding the Prime.....
But I also see your Point.


Well if finding a prime is more important than the Challenge Series then perhaps running a sub project that isn't in the Challenge Series will net more 1sts.

I get what you're saying though. And only the admins would be able to look into that

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Message 155675 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 4:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 155672.
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Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

Well my review is they are members that know what they are doing and doing before each Challenge.
You do not download 900 tasks and then aborted them and do the same the next day.
Most aborted tasks are Second run tasks and will not be 1st that is why I think know long time members do this.
I just do not care to complete tasks that have been aborted a day ago knowing that the tasks was completed already.

"Doesn't change anything in the challenge." But it is not all about the challenge but about finding the Prime.....
But I also see your Point.


Keep in mind that badly updated drivers can cause lots of errors on GPU challenges. I have generally avoided that on my Windows machines, but it happened on one Ubuntu Linux box this time around that I did not notice for a bit. Can run through hundreds of erroring work units fairly quickly.



Yes I do see hundreds of errors and it seems that the members is not managing their own hardware. But that has been a problem here as well as all other BOINC Projects.

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Message 155677 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 7:07:10 UTC - in response to Message 155675.

To get slightly more points and a few ranks, participants get a lot of tasks, then abort the less advantageous.
This could be avoided by an amount of point per task fixed in advance for the whole challenge.

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Message 155681 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 9:07:52 UTC - in response to Message 155677.

To get slightly more points and a few ranks, participants get a lot of tasks, then abort the less advantageous.

Why do you think some tasks are more advantageous? The typical (and intended) situation is that a task that gives slightly more points also takes slightly longer to run. The points awarded should reflect the "work" done.
This could be avoided by an amount of point per task fixed in advance for the whole challenge.

The tasks get larger and larger. Tasks sent out in the beginning of a challenge are generally a bit "easier" (because b is smaller) than tasks sent out in the end. If you gave them the same score, a rational person who wanted to maximize his challenge score (and who did not care about being 1st or 2nd!) would bunker the easier tasks from the beginning. So the opposite consequence of what you wanted to achieve.

/JeppeSN

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Message 155682 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 9:55:43 UTC - in response to Message 155681.

You're right ! No solution.

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Message 155683 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 10:06:44 UTC

It has been said many times before, but let me repeat.

If some user X takes and holds a task (or a lot of tasks) without correctly completing it, this is not to the advantage of that user in any way.

So how does it affect other users? In one sense, it does not affect them because their computers will crunch just as efficiently, with no interruptions, as if the user X had not existed. So for challenge points, it is entirely irrelevant.

But what about the implications on other users wrt. being first or not? Here, the behavior of X can give an advantage to a random (slow) host (excluding hosts belonging to X), and give a disadvantage to a random (fast) host.

When the work unit is new, typically two tasks are generated with names ending in _0 and _1. Often the two tasks are sent out at about the same instance of time (it is random if _1 or _0 goes out first). Let us say the careless user X mentioned gets one of them, and some random user A gets the other one. Now A has an advantage in becoming 1st, because X is not going to complete his tasks correctly, so A can easily get first. Even if A has a slow computer, they can get first.

When poor user X no longer holds the task (it is aborted, or has errored, or has timed out), BOINC software on the server realizes the need for a third task, with a name ending in _2. This tasks is sent to a random user, call them B. So B gets a disadvantage, and will often become 2nd. Even if B has a very fast computer, they can get second.

So you can become A or B, with equal probability. If all your computers are slow, it is good news; when you are A, you can still become 1st with your slow hardware. If all your computers are very fast, it is bad news; when you are B, you can lose even if your computer is faster.

Overall, the consequence of user X's carelessness is that slow computers get a random advantage over fast computers.

It is often praised as something positive that a very slow computer can still be lucky and win (become A). But if you are the person with all the fastest machines, sometimes a 1st is "stolen" from you in this way (you are B).

/JeppeSN

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But, if you're C and get an aborted task ending by _2 or _3 ?
An what should happen to X ?
There is no first if the task was aborted ? It happens more often than one would believe.

Definitively, the algorithm and criteria to be first should be detailed.
First to return ? Minimum run time ? Date received ?

To be first or not to be first ...

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Message 155685 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 10:45:59 UTC - in response to Message 155684.

The definition of "first" is the one to first return a correct result to the server. Sometimes, the person who gets first had an advantage, sometimes they even had a disadvantage.

When it goes to tasks _3, _4, etc., it is the same as with _2. No matter how large your "serial" number "_n" in the name is, you cannot know for sure if you are really an A or a B. For example, with wuid=798450888, the person who got the _2 task (third row) had a safe win. They were an A there.

(If they had aborted because the name of their task ended in _2, they would have lost a sure win, and then the _3 would have become an "A" task instead.)

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Thank you for your explanations, JeppeSN. It's a lot more clearer.

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Message 155688 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 11:07:06 UTC - in response to Message 155685.

The definition of "first" is the one to first return a correct result to the server. Sometimes, the person who gets first had an advantage, sometimes they even had a disadvantage.

When it goes to tasks _3, _4, etc., it is the same as with _2. No matter how large your "serial" number "_n" in the name is, you cannot know for sure if you are really an A or a B. For example, with wuid=798450888, the person who got the _2 task (third row) had a safe win. They were an A there.

(If they had aborted because the name of their task ended in _2, they would have lost a sure win, and then the _3 would have become an "A" task instead.)

/JeppeSN


You keep calling it "a win" if you return it first, I don't think of it that way. I think of "a win" as me successfully completing the task whether I am first or last or somewhere in between. I have slow computers and faster computers but can't compete with the people pushing the envelope and always buying the latest and greatest hardware and maybe that's why I think of "a win" the way I do.

Now have I been first before of course and everyone will at some point as you pointed out even thru dumb luck, but it takes two results to validate "a win" and without the 2nd result it's not "a win" but instead just a result.

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Message 155690 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 12:20:31 UTC

I consider it a win if I am a part of a find at all.
This is probably coming from a place where I cannot (or wish not) be connected to the internet.
It would be better to be 2nd than nothing?

I may have repeated something - I skimmed over it.

Or I have a lunaticit approach - self evident from the new word - with all things it is an amalgamation of things being ideas - usually a dialectic.

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Message 155691 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 13:10:12 UTC - in response to Message 155690.

#29 is fine, #125 too, in the metaverse.

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Message 155695 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 18:08:14 UTC

1 day remains...

Challenge: Geek Pride Day
App: 27 (GFN-19)
(As of 2022-05-29 18:07:45 UTC)

133052 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 35260 (27%) / 97792 (73%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

12144 (9%) were aborted. [4423 (3%) / 7721 (6%) / 0 (0%)]
7574 (6%) came back with some kind of an error. [506 (0%) / 7068 (5%) / 0 (0%)]
90997 (68%) have returned a successful result. [20337 (15%) / 70660 (53%) / 0 (0%)]
22337 (17%) are still in progress. [9994 (8%) / 12343 (9%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

15807 (17%) are pending validation. [3416 (4%) / 12391 (14%) / 0 (0%)]
75165 (83%) have been successfully validated. [16906 (19%) / 58259 (64%) / 0 (0%)]
25 (0%) were invalid. [15 (0%) / 10 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) are inconclusive. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is b=5306862. The leading edge was at b=4950146 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 7.21% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
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Message 155697 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 18:21:26 UTC - in response to Message 155683.
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When the work unit is new, typically two tasks are generated with names ending in _0 and _1. Often the two tasks are sent out at about the same instance of time (it is random if _1 or _0 goes out first). Let us say the careless user X mentioned gets one of them, and some random user A gets the other one. Now A has an advantage in becoming 1st, because X is not going to complete his tasks correctly, so A can easily get first. Even if A has a slow computer, they can get first.
/JeppeSN


This here should clear it up then.

If I'm not mistaken bcavnaugh is assuming that the task ending in _1 was the second task of that work unit to be sent. If you are saying that it's random that _1 or _0 is sent first then no user will be able to have an advantage by aborting all tasks ending in _1.

The advantage being returning the task first because they received the task first. When being the first to return a task is the goal.

However, for the purpose of winning the competition it doesn't matter as long as the task was downloaded at the start of the challenge or somewhere in between the start and end. Then returned before the end of the challenge. Additionally, that returned task must be a valid task.

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Message 155698 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 18:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 155697.
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When the work unit is new, typically two tasks are generated with names ending in _0 and _1. Often the two tasks are sent out at about the same instance of time (it is random if _1 or _0 goes out first). Let us say the careless user X mentioned gets one of them, and some random user A gets the other one. Now A has an advantage in becoming 1st, because X is not going to complete his tasks correctly, so A can easily get first. Even if A has a slow computer, they can get first.
/JeppeSN


This here should clear it up then.

If I'm not mistaken bcavnaugh is assuming that the task ending in _1 was the second task of that work unit to be sent. If you are saying that it's random that _1 or _0 is sent first then no user will be able to have an advantage by aborting all tasks ending in _1.

The advantage being returning the task first because they received the task first. When being the first to return a task is the goal.

However, for the purpose of winning the competition it doesn't matter as long as the task was downloaded at the start of the challenge or somewhere in between the start and end. Then returned before the end of the challenge. Additionally, that returned task must be a valid task.

@Skillz: You're the only first!
As first, do you care of being first to return tasks because your probability to find a prime is optimal ?
What's is your overall first percentage ? Has it changed since the beginning of the challenge ?
Note that in french "premier" means first but also prime!

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Message 155699 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 19:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 155698.


@Skillz: You're the only first!
As first, do you care of being first to return tasks because your probability to find a prime is optimal ?
What's is your overall first percentage ? Has it changed since the beginning of the challenge ?
Note that in french "premier" means first but also prime!


I don't know what my overall is. I've got a bunch of 3090s in the race and all of them are 90%+ first rate. I've also got some really slow 1080 and 1070 cards that are around 50%.

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Message 155700 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 20:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 155699.


@Skillz: You're the only first!
As first, do you care of being first to return tasks because your probability to find a prime is optimal ?
What's is your overall first percentage ? Has it changed since the beginning of the challenge ?
Note that in french "premier" means first but also prime!


I don't know what my overall is. I've got a bunch of 3090s in the race and all of them are 90%+ first rate. I've also got some really slow 1080 and 1070 cards that are around 50%.

Quite impressive! Glad to doublecheck/second a few of your firsts.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,114)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,416,635)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,645,567)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,036,951)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,032,821)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,902,645)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,455,703)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,888,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 155703 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 21:20:19 UTC - in response to Message 155682.

You're right ! No solution.

It’s not so much that there’s no solution as there is no problem.

For GFN the run times are very predictable and, within each subproject, the credit granted is directly proportional to the time it takes to run the task. No matter which GFN19 task you get, you will receive exactly the same credit/hour. It’s designed specifically to work that way. I should know; I am the person who designed it.
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Message 155705 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 21:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 155697.

This here should clear it up then.

If I'm not mistaken bcavnaugh is assuming that the task ending in _1 was the second task of that work unit to be sent. If you are saying that it's random that _1 or _0 is sent first then no user will be able to have an advantage by aborting all tasks ending in _1.

You can just look at the WU (work unit) I linked in my previous post. The _0 task (top row) was sent out at "25 May 2022 | 18:16:32 UTC". The _1 task (second row) was sent "25 May 2022 | 18:13:36 UTC". So the _1 had an advantage of 2 minutes 56 seconds over the _0. /JeppeSN

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Message 155706 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 21:35:36 UTC - in response to Message 155677.

To get slightly more points and a few ranks, participants get a lot of tasks, then abort the less advantageous.

I completely agree. The sentence above is false. It is pointless to select among tasks. The design is fair.
You brightly demonstrated that there is no advantage to abort tasks.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 3 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 3 primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,864,134)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,012,652)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,724,918)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,022,217)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,772,565)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,092,383)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,144,027)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,698,853)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,267,868)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,077,940)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,525)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,120,432)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,004,494)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,105,931)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,002,980)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,010,755)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (190,736,611)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (204,662,207)WW Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (233,720,000)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,033,845)
Message 155710 - Posted: 29 May 2022 | 22:31:22 UTC

Everyone notices when the 1st rate goes down. So they investigate and see that they're DCing work from someone who aborted a pile of tasks.
Most don't notice when their 1st rate goes up. So they don't see that they were the 1st while the original DCer aborted a pile of tasks.

In theory it should even out over time between the two situations.

A challenge can actually improve things as there are a wider variety of people running the same type of task so you're more likely to be doing tasks with reliable hosts of all kinds of different speeds.

The situation I'm not a huge fan of is when one person throws as insane amount of horsepower at a project that very few other people are running. That causes a situation of one person "pulling out ahead" until the server says "no tasks for you" and everyone else is DCing that person. However, this situation is completely nullified in a challenge due to the insanely wide variety of different people running the same project.
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Discovered 10 mega primesFound 16 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 15 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 22 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 17 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 4 mega primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,351,374)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,663,353)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,488,518)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,196,629)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (74,389,804)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,245,601)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,010,038)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,372,479)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,190,607)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,091,782)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,833,516)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,172,809)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,345,448)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (269,936,196)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (164,235)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,142,550)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,291,692)GFN Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (537,043,342)WW Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,796,000)PSA Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,142,791)
Message 155712 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 3:00:59 UTC
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You mean like this user https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=932196&offset=0&show_names=0&state=7&appid=27
900+ Errors
In all over 3500 errors https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=932196&offset=0&show_names=0&state=7&appid=0
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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 5 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 5 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 2 mega primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,148,143)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,348,560)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,928,263)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,072,649)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (40,713,273)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,765,873)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,915,028)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,306,602)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,037,347)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,047,113)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,247,622)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,279,140)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,057,633)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (263,399,827)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,987,213)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (93,484,959)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (54,380,000)
Message 155713 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 6:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 155710.

Everyone notices when the 1st rate goes down. So they investigate and see that they're DCing work from someone who aborted a pile of tasks.
Most don't notice when their 1st rate goes up. So they don't see that they were the 1st while the original DCer aborted a pile of tasks.

In theory it should even out over time between the two situations.

A challenge can actually improve things as there are a wider variety of people running the same type of task so you're more likely to be doing tasks with reliable hosts of all kinds of different speeds.

The situation I'm not a huge fan of is when one person throws as insane amount of horsepower at a project that very few other people are running. That causes a situation of one person "pulling out ahead" until the server says "no tasks for you" and everyone else is DCing that person. However, this situation is completely nullified in a challenge due to the insanely wide variety of different people running the same project.


During the TDP, I noticed my 1st rate decline when tng put everything onto the same sub project lol.
I was the DC for just about all my tasks.

I just buy my own hardware and crunch. That's it. BOINC is a bit of a rich man's hobby if you want to live on the bleeding edge of technology and stay at the front of the pack. That can now mean buying the latest & greatest but also mean being able to afford the power bill :(

I don't get my hopes up of finding a prime, that way I'm never disappointed.
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Message 155715 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 9:13:45 UTC - in response to Message 155706.

To get slightly more points and a few ranks, participants get a lot of tasks, then abort the less advantageous.

May or may not work. It's a lottery. Cherry-picking smaller tasks may mean you can fit 1 more in right before the end. Or be unlucky & just miss that opportunity. Best to just leave it & let it flow naturally.

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Message 155719 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 17:58:31 UTC

My rate dropped from 88-92 down to 60 overnight do to so many Error and aborted by user on the 28th and 29th even hundreds of Errors from good known members.

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Message 155722 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 18:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 155719.

My rate dropped from 88-92 down to 60 overnight do to so many Error and aborted by user on the 28th and 29th even hundreds of Errors from good known members.


Of all the tasks you did that were errors or abandoned, were any of them prime?

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Message 155723 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 18:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 155722.
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My rate dropped from 88-92 down to 60 overnight do to so many Error and aborted by user on the 28th and 29th even hundreds of Errors from good known members.


Of all the tasks you did that were errors or abandoned, were any of them prime?


From what I see we did not find any Primes this year, but we will have to wait and see.
There are to many to review so I would not know myself.

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Message 155725 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 19:40:31 UTC

We're all done! Here are the final stats. Cleanup starting now!

Challenge: Geek Pride Day
App: 27 (GFN-19)
(As of 2022-05-30 19:39:15 UTC)

158005 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 40338 (26%) / 117667 (74%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

16459 (10%) were aborted. [7613 (5%) / 8846 (6%) / 0 (0%)]
8431 (5%) came back with some kind of an error. [510 (0%) / 7921 (5%) / 0 (0%)]
117458 (74%) have returned a successful result. [26260 (17%) / 91198 (58%) / 0 (0%)]
14138 (9%) are still in progress. [5455 (3%) / 8682 (5%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

11812 (10%) are pending validation. [2630 (2%) / 9182 (8%) / 0 (0%)]
105616 (90%) have been successfully validated. [23613 (20%) / 82003 (70%) / 0 (0%)]
30 (0%) were invalid. [17 (0%) / 13 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) are inconclusive. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is b=5372518. The leading edge was at b=4950146 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 8.53% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
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Message 155727 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 20:01:41 UTC - in response to Message 155671.

Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

Well my review is they are members that know what they are doing and doing before each Challenge.
You do not download 900 tasks and then aborted them and do the same the next day.
Most aborted tasks are Second run tasks and will not be 1st that is why I think know long time members do this.
I just do not care to complete tasks that have been aborted a day ago knowing that the tasks was completed already.

"Doesn't change anything in the challenge." But it is not all about the challenge but about finding the Prime.....
But I also see your Point.

Boinc is terrible at judging how many tasks to download with regards to multithreaded apps. Add into the fact that it also is terrible at judging task completion times for gpu and cpu tasks from the same project, and you end up with people like me who request 1 day worth of work and end up with 2 weeks worth.
It's nothing malicious.

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Message 155729 - Posted: 30 May 2022 | 21:51:07 UTC - in response to Message 155727.
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Is 12% high for aborted Tasks?


Doesn't really matter. Aborted tasks are probably from people who accidentally downloaded too many tasks and aborted them so they have a better chance of returning a result 1st and getting credit for finding a prime instead of being the DC'er.

Doesn't change anything in the challenge.

Aborted tasks are better than abandoned tasks. IE: Tasks that are removed by means other than the BOINC client whether it's deleting them from the host directly or issuing a project reset on the BOINC client.

Either way, it doesn't effect the scoring at all here.

Only negative effect is the person who downloads the resends will almost definitely be a DC'er.

Well my review is they are members that know what they are doing and doing before each Challenge.
You do not download 900 tasks and then aborted them and do the same the next day.
Most aborted tasks are Second run tasks and will not be 1st that is why I think know long time members do this.
I just do not care to complete tasks that have been aborted a day ago knowing that the tasks was completed already.

"Doesn't change anything in the challenge." But it is not all about the challenge but about finding the Prime.....
But I also see your Point.

Boinc is terrible at judging how many tasks to download with regards to multithreaded apps. Add into the fact that it also is terrible at judging task completion times for gpu and cpu tasks from the same project, and you end up with people like me who request 1 day worth of work and end up with 2 weeks worth.
It's nothing malicious.

Or you request a day and get a minute.
It is usually the other way round.
And it is not consistent.
One day 0.3 days equals 2 days.
Then next time, 0.6 days equals 0.2 days.
This may depend on what is running and how many of them.
This is how it is.
Edit: It hasn't been that wildly different. But it has been a lot different and not closely related to what is actually going on.

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Message 155730 - Posted: 31 May 2022 | 2:57:19 UTC

A special acknowledgement to Yves Gallot and the other team scientists for the recent enhancements introduced in genefer, although the official announcement will come after post-challenge feedback ?
Merci Yves!

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Message 155731 - Posted: 31 May 2022 | 3:43:25 UTC - in response to Message 155730.

A special acknowledgement to Yves Gallot and the other team scientists for the recent enhancements introduced in genefer, although the official announcement will come after post-challenge feedback ?
Merci Yves!

Oui oui!

CPU MT GFN19 really helped me in the challenge-merci beaucoup!!
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Message 155736 - Posted: 31 May 2022 | 10:32:38 UTC - in response to Message 155723.

From what I see we did not find any Primes this year, but we will have to wait and see.
There are to many to review so I would not know myself.

This was fifty-fifty. The tested range was [4950146; 5372518]: the probability of 0 prime is 50.6% and of one prime or more 49.4%. Note that 4896418219 + 1 was found on 15 May.

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Message 155739 - Posted: 31 May 2022 | 19:01:13 UTC
Last modified: 29 Jun 2022 | 16:45:47 UTC

Cleanup Status:

May 30: 10797 tasks outstanding; 7924 affecting individual (271) scoring positions; 2638 affecting team (40) scoring positions.
May 31: 8973 tasks outstanding; 6000 affecting individual (262) scoring positions; 1937 affecting team (36) scoring positions.
Jun 1: 7079 tasks outstanding; 4400 affecting individual (248) scoring positions; 1436 affecting team (32) scoring positions.
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Jun 8: 1855 tasks outstanding; 608 affecting individual (130) scoring positions; 54 affecting team (9) scoring positions.
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Jun 28: 20 tasks outstanding; 2 affecting individual (2) scoring positions; 0 affecting team (0) scoring positions.
Jun 29: 20 tasks outstanding; 2 affecting individual (2) scoring positions; 0 affecting team (0) scoring positions.
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