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Message boards : Number crunching : Any way to force NOT reporting results immediately?

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Peter Hucker
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Credit: 46,730,776
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,162)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (99,691)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,048)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,800)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,161)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,376,215)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,698)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,533)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (62,235)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,509,768)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,432,423)WW Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (484,000)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,621,124)
Message 145860 - Posted: 30 Nov 2020 | 9:58:50 UTC

Most projects default to not reporting immediately. And you can tell Boinc to do so if you wish in either cc or app config files, for everything or just one project. But Primegrid defaults to reporting immediately and I can't see where this setting is. I have no app config for Primegrid, and the setting for app config seems to be nothing or yes, not a no.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 4 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,669,908)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,139,658)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,103,704)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,877,149)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,031,991)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,884,578)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,572,202)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,815,713)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,290,581)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,706,085)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,351,903)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,182,363)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (29,540,183)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (111,495,825)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (29,760,523)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (59,504,000)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (146,556,287)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (111,434,026)
Message 146033 - Posted: 3 Dec 2020 | 10:57:59 UTC - in response to Message 145860.

Although I'm not certain this will work, could you try putting in your app_config.xml

<report_results_immediately>0</report_results_immediately>
instead of
<report_results_immediately/>

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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (529,293)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (611,298)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (139,922)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,236)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,263,864)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (212,242)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (466,812)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (145,419)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,277)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (342,501)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,455)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (175,037)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,113)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,640,000)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,707,013)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 146035 - Posted: 3 Dec 2020 | 11:04:23 UTC

Why would one want to defer the reporting of completed PrimeGrid tasks?

(Maybe, during a challenge, to trick competitors within the challenge into thinking that there is no need for them to add more computers to PrimeGrid in order to be sure they are not going to be overtaken by you before the end of the challenge? "Bunkering"?)

/JeppeSN

Peter Hucker
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,162)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (99,691)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,048)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,800)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,161)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,376,215)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,698)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,533)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (62,235)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,509,768)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,432,423)WW Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (484,000)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,621,124)
Message 146148 - Posted: 5 Dec 2020 | 14:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 146033.

Although I'm not certain this will work, could you try putting in your app_config.xml
<report_results_immediately>0</report_results_immediately>
instead of
<report_results_immediately/>
Done, testing....

Peter Hucker
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Joined: 23 Sep 06
Posts: 115
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Credit: 46,730,776
RAC: 165,218
321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,162)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (99,691)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,048)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,800)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,161)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,376,215)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,698)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,533)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (62,235)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,509,768)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,432,423)WW Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (484,000)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,621,124)
Message 146150 - Posted: 5 Dec 2020 | 14:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 146035.

Why would one want to defer the reporting of completed PrimeGrid tasks?

(Maybe, during a challenge, to trick competitors within the challenge into thinking that there is no need for them to add more computers to PrimeGrid in order to be sure they are not going to be overtaken by you before the end of the challenge? "Bunkering"?)

/JeppeSN
Because I have 7 computers and 2 mobiles showing on the one Boinctasks window, and it's nice to see what's been recently completed before they disappear.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,132,712)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,934,619)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,057,209)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,751,038)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,718,606)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,963,361)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)WW Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,400,000)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (77,916,132)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 146151 - Posted: 5 Dec 2020 | 14:28:14 UTC - in response to Message 146150.

Why would one want to defer the reporting of completed PrimeGrid tasks?

(Maybe, during a challenge, to trick competitors within the challenge into thinking that there is no need for them to add more computers to PrimeGrid in order to be sure they are not going to be overtaken by you before the end of the challenge? "Bunkering"?)

/JeppeSN
Because I have 7 computers and 2 mobiles showing on the one Boinctasks window, and it's nice to see what's been recently completed before they disappear.



That's what BOINCTasks history tab is for. Also, that's what the website is for.

Even if that feature is disabled, with short tasks, things get reported back to the server almost immediately anyway because the client is constantly asking for more work.
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Peter Hucker
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,162)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (99,691)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,048)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,800)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,161)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,376,215)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,698)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,533)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (62,235)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,509,768)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,432,423)WW Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (484,000)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,621,124)
Message 146155 - Posted: 5 Dec 2020 | 14:36:46 UTC - in response to Message 146148.

Although I'm not certain this will work, could you try putting in your app_config.xml
<report_results_immediately>0</report_results_immediately>
instead of
<report_results_immediately/>
Done, testing....


Testing failed, it was reported within several seconds.

Peter Hucker
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Joined: 23 Sep 06
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,162)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,800)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (99,691)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,048)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,800)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (296,161)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,376,215)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,698)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,533)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (62,235)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (240,222)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,838)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,509,768)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,965)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,492)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,432,423)WW Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (484,000)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,621,124)
Message 146156 - Posted: 5 Dec 2020 | 14:38:56 UTC - in response to Message 146151.
Last modified: 5 Dec 2020 | 14:40:21 UTC

Why would one want to defer the reporting of completed PrimeGrid tasks?

(Maybe, during a challenge, to trick competitors within the challenge into thinking that there is no need for them to add more computers to PrimeGrid in order to be sure they are not going to be overtaken by you before the end of the challenge? "Bunkering"?)

/JeppeSN
Because I have 7 computers and 2 mobiles showing on the one Boinctasks window, and it's nice to see what's been recently completed before they disappear.



That's what BOINCTasks history tab is for. Also, that's what the website is for.

Even if that feature is disabled, with short tasks, things get reported back to the server almost immediately anyway because the client is constantly asking for more work.

But I have the display of running tasks up on another monitor all the time. I like to see what's finished on there, not have to look somewhere else. All the other projects respect my wishes!

And my PCs are not constantly asking for more work, as I have a 0+3 hour buffer, for two reasons: the 0 means I don't have piles of work queued up which would cause projects to get the results back later and make the screen untidy, and the 3 means it gets a handful at a time, not just one task which would increase server load.

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