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Message boards : Extended Sierpinski Problem : 340 000 s CPU time on i7-4790K

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,058,073)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,946)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,093,381)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,148,593)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,225,852)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,248,861)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,669,219)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,060,324)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,108,160)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,039,866)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,129,385)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,107,153)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,045,010)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,470,273)WW Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (127,608,000)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,149,778)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (678,219)
Message 140113 - Posted: 7 May 2020 | 8:25:52 UTC
Last modified: 7 May 2020 | 8:28:34 UTC

I started ESP and found it took very long on both hosts, more than 300 000 s. What's more, the i7-4790K took 340 000 s, the i3-2120 took only 305 000 s approximately. SGS and 321 sieve, the i3 was usually 50% slower.

Unfortunately I had MT disabled and only now saw that it is reommended. What settings should I use?

I went with 50% of the processors and 2 threads, is that correct? Unfortunately these tasks take so long, you cannot really experiment.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,228)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,212)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,170)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (124,531)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,927,748)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,559)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (533,625)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,183)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,487)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,075)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,864)321 Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,814)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,033)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,609,154)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (606,450)WW Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,012,000)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,188,256)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (373,034)
Message 140114 - Posted: 7 May 2020 | 9:07:16 UTC - in response to Message 140113.
Last modified: 7 May 2020 | 9:09:05 UTC

MT all the cores you have available for crunching;
Or use Prime95 to test the FFT size ESP has.
See here for instructions.
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8240
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,058,073)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,946)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,093,381)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,148,593)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,225,852)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,248,861)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,669,219)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,060,324)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,108,160)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,039,866)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,129,385)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,107,153)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,045,010)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,470,273)WW Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (127,608,000)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,149,778)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (678,219)
Message 140124 - Posted: 7 May 2020 | 14:45:20 UTC
Last modified: 7 May 2020 | 15:02:14 UTC

Thanks for the link.

So far it seems restricting to physical cores and MT=2 has done a lot of good. Two ESP tasks are running on the i7 with one giving an estimate of 70 000 s, the other something like 130 000 s.

According to taskmanager one process utilizes 25% of cpu ressources, the other 12-13%. I changed MT to 1 to prepare for SGS tasks and it might be one ESP task is running with this setting?

I did prime95 test and 1 worker was optimal in terms of throughput. The posts said a worker was the same as a task, so it wouldn't tell about the optimal number of threads?

Anyway, after pausing/unpausing Boinc, now both ESP tasks are running at 25% CPU each. So apparently it wasn't related to the MT setting.

What are other people using on a 4 physical cores i7? How many threads?

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Message 140126 - Posted: 7 May 2020 | 16:31:16 UTC

On my i7 3770k (4 core/8 thread) I have set multi-threading to 4 and left hyper-threading on. So I am running two tasks simultaneously. Not the most efficient but it works for me. But each person should run a few tests to see what settings works best for them as hardware variations can make a significant difference (AVX capability or cache size for examples).

On my Ryzen 3700X (8 core/16 thread) I set multi-threading to 4 or 8 depending on how long the tasks are expected to run. Again I leave hyper-threading on. Using 4 cores makes the computer more responsive to other projects I have going on as I am often running PG as the backup project and I prefer it not to hog my CPU resources if possible.

For GFN21/22, however, I have app_config set to use all my cores as they are monster tasks. [GPU is highly recommended, but I am a masochist.]
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Message 140131 - Posted: 7 May 2020 | 17:37:46 UTC

For "big" units like this, it is generally good to use 1 task using as many threads as you have real cores with Intel CPUs. It can get more complicated on AMD side.

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