Nice! Hope everything went well today! Enjoy your new watts! :D

A new thread was definitely a good idea; I'm pretty bad for going off-topic in them, lol!

Glad to hear that the wiring went in well! I was trying to think of a clever rebuttal for the extra power usage comments, but I've got nothing XD

When summer does roll around I have had pretty good experiences using something like this https://www.amazon.ca/Bionaire-BW2300-N-Reversible-Airflow-Control/dp/B000065DKJ/ref=sr_1_33?keywords=9%22+fan&qid=1576038237&s=kitchen&sr=1-33 to keep air flowing and the room cool but without needing to worry about air conditioning it. I have one of these running (dual 9" fans) in my computer room 24/7 year round drawing air out, just on the slow setting in the winter and fast setting in the summer. Generally stays cool enough to not melt anything (myself included) and is quite power efficient :)

Also; congrats on your next credit milestone! In about 12 hours you will surpass my credit ;)

I've been thinking of something along those lines. The rafters in the garage have been covered with drywall on the room side. And the attic is vented. So I need to get a sucker fan to exhaust the hot air into the attic and in turn displace the hotter air in the attic. But will just have to play it by ear this coming summer.

The "Beast" has been unleashed!! :D

http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=978696

Edit: Let the stress test begin!!! :)

The "Beast" has been unleashed!! :D

http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=978696

Edit: Let the stress test begin!!! :)

really sucks, having sever connection probs, like the site is having a ddos attack.

really sucks, having sever connection probs, like the site is having a ddos attack.

I popped onto the Discord server to see what is going on and the issue is being actively resolved with server restarts. Hopefully it is up soon! Until the challenge I have suspended task requests on my PCs to try to reduce traffic. It is close enough to start time that I can't really do many more tasks anyways :)

yup, still having massive trouble. It seemed to start in about three hours before the start of the challenge. I've got some dyfl and gfn21 tasks but it was a struggle. And even earlier in the day I was having completed tasks stack up on multiple systems as it was hard to upload due to too many timeouts. Whatta bummer. :-(

Okay, the garage. A rough night for the computer. A couple items right off the bat. First is I've gotta either run a network cable under the house, or get a wifi range extender. I thought I'd be smart and just leave the 2070 out in the garage running without a good network as the dyfl was already downloaded. Well there must be power fluctuations as the computer rebooted itself. Two times last night. Was zero problems in the computer room with that system. So anyway I brought the system back into the computer room to try and get the dyfl going as it's only at 40% and should have been about done. Fun and games. :-)

So the next game is to put a battery ups out the and run a system off that and see about resets then. Was bored anyway and needed something to keep the mind busy. :-)

[quoteWas going to recommend ups, not for backup power aspect, they also smooth out and help with those fluctuations. But you knew that already :) [/quote]

lol, yup. After getting the computer back in here, I think there was an update trying to run, 1906?? I think is the long one. Anyway, finished the update and set the network to metered, heh heh that should stop anymore surprises too. The box is a win home version so can't postphone the updates. And that dyfl is now at 41%.

and now have a test box with a 1060 on a UPS runing a gfn 21 in the garage with wifi set to metered. The object being to see if that takes care of the reboot issue. Meanwhile I need to get a wifi range extender.

and now have a test box with a 1060 on a UPS runing a gfn 21 in the garage with wifi set to metered. The object being to see if that takes care of the reboot issue. Meanwhile I need to get a wifi range extender.

If you can run a wire discreetly, it may be worth the effort :)

It's not that it can't be done, it's just a really crappy dirty job to do it. But I've gotten lazy in my old age.

Sure a lot of connection problems still. Getting pretty old. grrrr

Well the ups took care of the stability issue and the test box got a 21 done last night. So playing u-haul net (sneaker) I moved the box in, loaded a dyfl on it and it's back in the garage. Only a 1060, but it'll still get a dyfl done. Now just have the network issue to resolve.

In playing with the video cards and drivers it appears that if you go to build 1909 of win10 that you end up with dch video drivers at least anyways with nvidia. Like as in the 441xx nvidia drivers are dch. And this is what MS has moved to for their new builds. In digging around, there's a way to remove the dch component and use regular nvidia drivers. As I understand it, w3ith the dch stuff then MS will ship out new drivers during their updates.

So, am I understanding it wrong? Will this solve the old issue of win1o updates screwing up the gpu crunching issues after an update, or does this create another MS nightmare for boinc crunchers?

In playing with the video cards and drivers it appears that if you go to build 1909 of win10 that you end up with dch video drivers at least anyways with nvidia. Like as in the 441xx nvidia drivers are dch. And this is what MS has moved to for their new builds. In digging around, there's a way to remove the dch component and use regular nvidia drivers. As I understand it, w3ith the dch stuff then MS will ship out new drivers during their updates.

So, am I understanding it wrong? Will this solve the old issue of win1o updates screwing up the gpu crunching issues after an update, or does this create another MS nightmare for boinc crunchers?

I put the 2070 in another system, and then upgraded to 1909, then installed a non dch video driver, which installed just fine. Soooo I don't know what the game really is as another system I did stopped during the driver install and told me it needed s dch driver. All my systems at present are running asus motherboards. So I don't know. ??? Tis a puzzlement.

I now have the 2070 out in the garage with the cold air. I bought a wifi extender and that is allowing the system to talk with the PG server. So it is now on dyfl duty for the challenge. So that helped ease the a/c in the computer room. This spring I'll figure out a way to run cat 5/6 to the garage and put a router out there.

So I'm presently just over 10 mil away from my Double Amethyst in sieving, with 3mil+ pending. So I'mthinking it's time to put a big push on gfn's to try and find my mega prime of some flavor. Of course that means my output drops (as it did during the last challenge) and that pesky Hungarian team will be right on our back... :-( And the the tour de prime's comes along next month for a month.

Or... do I put a push on AP until the next challenge as I'd like to get AP up 2 or 3 notches before it meets it's end as a project here. Decisions, decisions. haha. :-)

Just crossed 7 billion for Storm , whoooop! ;)

rather quiet in here...

after my first ppse prime I seem to have reverted back to nothingness. lol I mean like how come Mr. Lucky hasn't already hit the dyfl and picked up another 3 or so badges?????

Well went off to grab a pizza with the wife and got back home to another ppse prime. Not many points, but that's okay. lol As for discord, ya, it takes a lot of the thunder away from the message boards. I get on it every once in a while. But everything on that is out to the world, where at least this place is to the team. At least that's the theory. lol And ya I started off with a lot of stuff on 17, but like you say not really expecting much there. So will probably just keep several cores on ppse and scale back the 17 and put some on larger primes that at least have bonus points and some sieving too.

You still hitting 21 hard?

Well went off to grab a pizza with the wife and got back home to another ppse prime. Not many points, but that's okay. lol

As for discord, ya, it takes a lot of the thunder away from the message boards. I get on it every once in a while. But everything on that is out to the world, where at least this place is to the team. At least that's the theory. lol

I've just been after primes that would be counted for the tdp on this effort. Congrats on your primes though! :-)

I put a couple slow gpu's on gfn-15 in case you wanted to crunch some of them so you'd have a wingman if u wanted to crunch more of them.

Are you using the same username on discord. Gets confusing when people change their names.

I put a couple slow gpu's on gfn-15 in case you wanted to crunch some of them so you'd have a wingman if u wanted to crunch more of them.

Also!

https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=640908453

Two of my computers got a task from the same workunit at exactly the same second and a third had to be sent out to verify. I always wondered what would happen in this situation and now I know :D

Also!

https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=640908453

Two of my computers got a task from the same workunit at exactly the same second and a third had to be sent out to verify. I always wondered what would happen in this situation and now I know :D

Cool, I didn't think it was possible. ;) boinc is fallible after all. Well spotted! Mind if I share on discord?

Lol, yup, would be interesting to see what Michael has to say about that!!

I do have to say that finishing a sub-project is really satisfying though. After GFN-13, I have my sights set on GFN-14, then GFN-15, then GFN-17_Low, then we will see where things go after that. I'd love to see them all through to the end!

Woohoo! Nice! I ran out of GFN-13, GFN-14 and GFN-15 DC'ers yesterday and have switched some computers over to other stuff for the rest of TdP, but the help with GFN-15 is much appreciated! With Stream's server going down for a bit I'll probably throw a few more towards things like PPS-Sieve and AP27. Finally found an AP24 today too! I have a bunch of 23s and 2 25s, but no 24 until today :D

Congrats on the 2080! Those things are beastly! If you ever get into manual sieving, it is a monster too. On GFN22 and 23 sieving the 2070 will get 630P/day, so the 2080 is probably 800+ :)

There ya go https://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8987&nowrap=true#137288 Mike just explained it :)

Tried to get you a new badge too Kellen :D

There ya go https://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8987&nowrap=true#137288 Mike just explained it :)

Ah nice; thanks! That's quite the process, but I'm glad it is in place. It allows for both a rapid response when tasks are requested and good results integrity; I like it!

Tried to get you a new badge too Kellen :D

Thanks too for this; now I'm curious! Trying to get badges for stuff under the T5K limit? If there was a badge for that I think GFN-15 would have to be moved to the "Less Than 1 Year" category for project lifetime projections XD

no :) badge for (a) it happening (prob less than one in a million) and (b) noticing it :)))))))

I put a slow box on gfn15 and sgs. it was getting NO 1sts in tdp :D

On the other hand, I got a 2080, Damn its fast!
I ran hashcat on it and it achieved 64 gigahashes per second on NTLM (windows) hashes. or 64 billion guesses per second!!!! Mind blowing.

Pretty fast on PG too!

I put a slow box on gfn15 and sgs. it was getting NO 1sts in tdp :D

On the other hand, I got a 2080, Damn its fast!
I ran hashcat on it and it achieved 64 gigahashes per second on NTLM (windows) hashes. or 64 billion guesses per second!!!! Mind blowing.

Pretty fast on PG too!

congrats on the 2080!! :-) Yup, the power of the new stuff is really impressive!

As for the gfn-15... everyone goes nuts to try and be first during the tdp it seems. I look at the slow boxes on it as a public service thing. haha Someone needs to clear out the units waiting for a wingman, which needs to be done to get a project closed out. And sometimes the slow ones actually get a good hit and surprise you. :-)

Absolutely, my slowest box got a gfn17low! And it ridiculous :)

CAL AMD Radeon HD 7400/7500/8300/8400 series (Scrapper) (768MB) driver: 1.4.1848

Well after running the dickens out of gfn-16 and getting nothing,not even a double checker I'm gonna crunch some other stuff. ppse has been good to me, even got a double checker on that this morning. So the lowly cpu's have been kind to me.

Im on mega or bust. was on 17 and pps mega but less than 50 % 1sts so now on div and 18. Sure fingers crossed ;)

Im on mega or bust. was on 17 and pps mega but less than 50 % 1sts so now on div and 18. Sure fingers crossed ;)

I had a couple systems w/1660ti's that were hitting in the high 70's on gfn16. May put them back on it. And I've got a couple that do really well on gfn15. But ya, it's all pretty much a fingers crossed game it seems. I'll probably put some more on gfn15 to at least work at getting that project closed out. Them I'm running gfn18 too, but it's just pure luck if anything hits there.

testing --- Ah cool, just changed my name to Renix vice renix1943.

testing --- Ah cool, just changed my name to Renix vice renix1943.

So has anyone been following the 2020TDP main public thread where bcavanaugh has been taking flack from a couple guys over the "fairness" issue? And in the recent past there have been a few other comments regarding things needing to be more fair to the folks with old or low powered systems. Seems to me that these kinda things come out when there are challenges going on, but not during normal crunching times... most likely cause during the challenges folks are here trying to get the fancy goo-gaws and badges. Sorta a turn-off to me as the real reason I'm here is to crunch things that I'm interested in. In that regard it's like the challenges take away crunching time sometimes for crunching on stuff that I really am not that interested in. And then add to that the drama (bitching and moaning) going on because of the whining by folks not getting their perceived trophies. Having a monthly electrical bill averaging just under $600 it's a bit irritating to listen to the drama the challenges bring on. Like they haven't figured out yet that life isn't fair? -------------- /rant-off. :-)

So has anyone been following the 2020TDP main public thread where bcavanaugh has been taking flack from a couple guys over the "fairness" issue? And in the recent past there have been a few other comments regarding things needing to be more fair to the folks with old or low powered systems. Seems to me that these kinda things come out when there are challenges going on, but not during normal crunching times... most likely cause during the challenges folks are here trying to get the fancy goo-gaws and badges. Sorta a turn-off to me as the real reason I'm here is to crunch things that I'm interested in. In that regard it's like the challenges take away crunching time sometimes for crunching on stuff that I really am not that interested in. And then add to that the drama (bitching and moaning) going on because of the whining by folks not getting their perceived trophies. Having a monthly electrical bill averaging just under $600 it's a bit irritating to listen to the drama the challenges bring on. Like they haven't figured out yet that life isn't fair? -------------- /rant-off. :-)

Where I work; we aren't even allowed to charge our personal cell phones because that would be electricity theft, lol!!!

Oh man... Both Jim and Michael :'(

If I knew more (or anything) about server administration I'd probably jump in to help, but my recent ordeals with even the most simple programming tasks suggest to me that would be a disaster. Good chance I'd delete something important or screw something up... (coincidentally I just deleted something important and screwed something up when testing a Python script, lol)

I hope that they both remain part of the PrimeGrid community though. They both seem like great people and I'd love them to stick around.

Oh man... Both Jim and Michael :'(

If I knew more (or anything) about server administration I'd probably jump in to help, but my recent ordeals with even the most simple programming tasks suggest to me that would be a disaster. Good chance I'd delete something important or screw something up... (coincidentally I just deleted something important and screwed something up when testing a Python script, lol)

I hope that they both remain part of the PrimeGrid community though. They both seem like great people and I'd love them to stick around.

Oh man... Both Jim and Michael :'(

If I knew more (or anything) about server administration I'd probably jump in to help, but my recent ordeals with even the most simple programming tasks suggest to me that would be a disaster. Good chance I'd delete something important or screw something up... (coincidentally I just deleted something important and screwed something up when testing a Python script, lol)

I hope that they both remain part of the PrimeGrid community though. They both seem like great people and I'd love them to stick around.

That doesn't bode well at all. :-( It would be nice to know what is really behind it all as it seems rather abrupt and coming out of no-where. I wonder if stream would be getting into it at all? I hope the project doesn't tank because of it.

Well, in years past I spent a lot of time money and effort on the "No Ptimes Left Behind" project. However it wasn't on boinc, and was all manual. Haven't done anything with it in years. Like you, primegrid has kept me enthralled. So I guess we just wait and watch it during the transition. This just didn't make my day at all. :-(

Kellen,
Ah.... another day, another dollar as the saying goes here. lol. So once upon a horse I had set up on Stream's server. Sorta screwed myself though as lo and behold I didn't write down the password, and didn't use the weak account key. SO I started another account there and used the weak account key like they suggest in case the stuff is ever linked up with the primegrid. In case you haven't figured out yet I start a LOT of sentences off with the word "So". Haha. Anyway presently have a system going with a 1050ti on it crunching gfn13. Since they run so short, I set it to download like 0.1 day's worth.

From my first account there I seem to recall that the double check lags...? But the main thing is to get that project finished up so it can be cleared out and the focus moved on to 14 and 16? I gather that his system will be going down due to building electrical modifications. Once that is over I will proly put one or two 1660's on it.

So if you have any further info, comments, recommendations on Stream's site/projects please pass them on if you don't mind. :-)

Kellen,
Ah.... another day, another dollar as the saying goes here. lol. So once upon a horse I had set up on Stream's server. Sorta screwed myself though as lo and behold I didn't write down the password, and didn't use the weak account key. SO I started another account there and used the weak account key like they suggest in case the stuff is ever linked up with the primegrid. In case you haven't figured out yet I start a LOT of sentences off with the word "So". Haha. Anyway presently have a system going with a 1050ti on it crunching gfn13. Since they run so short, I set it to download like 0.1 day's worth.

From my first account there I seem to recall that the double check lags...? But the main thing is to get that project finished up so it can be cleared out and the focus moved on to 14 and 16? I gather that his system will be going down due to building electrical modifications. Once that is over I will proly put one or two 1660's on it.

So if you have any further info, comments, recommendations on Stream's site/projects please pass them on if you don't mind. :-)

could you post the file you are using to set your 1660ti's to 12 tasks at a time?

could you post the file you are using to set your 1660ti's to 12 tasks at a time?

now what do I change to run those on a 1050 or 1050ti instead of a 1660ti?

And in the process of dinking around luckily I had one system that I hadn't logged out of that allowed me to get into my old renix1943 account. So I fired off a 1660ti on that account and will now go back and start moving stuff from the new account over to the old account and then get things straightened around on account keys so that if this stuff is ever plugged into the PG system it will cross over. But my main thing right now is to just help get the gfn13 thing completed. :-)

now what do I change to run those on a 1050 or 1050ti instead of a 1660ti?

And in the process of dinking around luckily I had one system that I hadn't logged out of that allowed me to get into my old renix1943 account. So I fired off a 1660ti on that account and will now go back and start moving stuff from the new account over to the old account and then get things straightened around on account keys so that if this stuff is ever plugged into the PG system it will cross over. But my main thing right now is to just help get the gfn13 thing completed. :-)

I've two boxes back on gfn13 too, they were crap at tdp so I decided to move them back. Ive found a few already ;) happy days

so how can I tell if the 1660's are doing more than one unit? Is the work unit supposed to show? The points per work unit are the same between the 1050 and the 1660ti.

When MT on cpu stuff the tasks line in boinc manager shows hoe many cores are on that task. Is there something similar for the gpu's?

I've never run multiple tasks on a gpu before. I saved the stuff as app_config.xml and put it in the projects directory like I used to before Mike set up MT on the server to be painless.

And the other thing is the task completion times are the same no matter what gpu I use. ???

It's really wierd how much better things go when the file name is spelled right...........lol

So I now have two 1660ti's runnung gfn13, just a massive difference. What an eye opener!!!

It's really wierd how much better things go when the file name is spelled right...........lol

Had two systems throwing errors, so aborted everything the two had downloaded. One I put back on pg as it was stable there, and the other I restarted without the app_config.xml to see if there were any errors there. :-(

I sure hope Streams server recycles aborts like pg does.

So one of the 1050ti systems that had 123 errors with the app_config had no errors after I deleted the app_config. The other 1050ti runs fine with it as does the other 1050ti, 1 1050, 3 1660ti's, and 1 2060super. The 1660ti that had 125 errors I put back on PG. So I'm assuming the two systems with errors need to have the app_configs backed off a bit since they are most likely a bit aggressive for those particular gpu's???

So one of the 1050ti systems that had 123 errors with the app_config had no errors after I deleted the app_config. The other 1050ti runs fine with it as does the other 1050ti, 1 1050, 3 1660ti's, and 1 2060super. The 1660ti that had 125 errors I put back on PG. So I'm assuming the two systems with errors need to have the app_configs backed off a bit since they are most likely a bit aggressive for those particular gpu's???

Just saw the post where SETI is shutting down. If PrimeGrid even thinks about doing something like this I'll have another site up so fast it won't be measurable.

Of course it'll be total garbage by comparison (manual reservations and an ftp site for results at the very best), but hey; it's something XD

Just saw the post where SETI is shutting down. If PrimeGrid even thinks about doing something like this I'll have another site up so fast it won't be measurable.

Of course it'll be total garbage by comparison (manual reservations and an ftp site for results at the very best), but hey; it's something XD

Strange! Actually I will re-phrase that: Very strange! What operating system are they running on and what tasks are they doing successfully on PG? If they are successfully doing PPS-Sieve, that is not an OpenCL program, where GFN testing is. If you post the URL for one of the error tasks I will take a look at it and see if I can figure out what is going on :)