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Message 118083 - Posted: 20 May 2018 | 16:50:19 UTC
Last modified: 20 May 2018 | 16:50:43 UTC

Is Primegrid going to be implementing the new changes for BOINC in regard to GDPR?

I know there is going to be a new checkbox allowing users to decide whether their data is in the xml exports. Given it's probably going to default to No, that will reduce the exported data down to a very small fraction.

I know WCG, Einstein and Seti will be implementing it. It will reduce the data I'm holding at Free-DC drastically, I kind of wonder if it's worth doing any 3rd party stats at all though after this.

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Message 118084 - Posted: 20 May 2018 | 17:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 118083.

Is Primegrid going to be implementing the new changes for BOINC in regard to GDPR?

I know there is going to be a new checkbox allowing users to decide whether their data is in the xml exports. Given it's probably going to default to No, that will reduce the exported data down to a very small fraction.

I know WCG, Einstein and Seti will be implementing it. It will reduce the data I'm holding at Free-DC drastically, I kind of wonder if it's worth doing any 3rd party stats at all though after this.


I'm not ready to discuss GDPR at this point, but I do want to comment on "I kind of wonder if it's worth doing any 3rd party stats at all".

If there were no third party stats, or the stats were crippled by most people defaulting to not being included, I think it would severely reduce the motivation for a lot of people to participate. At best, BOINC overall would see a significant decrease in participation. At worst, it might kill off BOINC altogether.


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Message 118085 - Posted: 20 May 2018 | 17:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 118084.



I'm not ready to discuss GDPR at this point, but I do want to comment on "I kind of wonder if it's worth doing any 3rd party stats at all".

If there were no third party stats, or the stats were crippled by most people defaulting to not being included, I think it would severely reduce the motivation for a lot of people to participate. At best, BOINC overall would see a significant decrease in participation. At worst, it might kill off BOINC altogether.



Unfortunately that is where my conclusions are heading also.

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Message 118093 - Posted: 21 May 2018 | 10:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 118085.



I'm not ready to discuss GDPR at this point, but I do want to comment on "I kind of wonder if it's worth doing any 3rd party stats at all".

If there were no third party stats, or the stats were crippled by most people defaulting to not being included, I think it would severely reduce the motivation for a lot of people to participate. At best, BOINC overall would see a significant decrease in participation. At worst, it might kill off BOINC altogether.



Unfortunately that is where my conclusions are heading also.


I hope that never happens and therefore the default is TO be included. I have no clue what that is and won't speculate but if it's bad for Boinc I'm against being excluded by default. I understand some peoples thinking, don't have to agree but everyone is different, but bad for Boinc is bad for Science.
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Message 118096 - Posted: 21 May 2018 | 13:12:53 UTC

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Please let me know if you got my PM.

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Message 118099 - Posted: 21 May 2018 | 14:13:54 UTC - in response to Message 118093.
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I have no clue what that is and won't speculate

It's the (newish) european union private data protection regulation that basically forces websites to have (european) users' consent for storing their personal data (oversimplification + I'm not a lawyer).

If you've registered at any websites at all (including google account), in the last month you've probably already recieved a ton of emails from pretty much every one of them about how theу are updating their Privacy Policies to acknowledge this regulation and be transparent on What personal data is stored, How it's used and What control you have over it.

It's just like many years ago, when there was a regulation about cookies and since then every website has a popup in a corner on the first visit about how it's using cookies, a link to the policy and "ok" button.

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Message 118121 - Posted: 22 May 2018 | 11:09:53 UTC - in response to Message 118099.

I have no clue what that is and won't speculate

It's the (newish) european union private data protection regulation that basically forces websites to have (european) users' consent for storing their personal data (oversimplification + I'm not a lawyer).

If you've registered at any websites at all (including google account), in the last month you've probably already recieved a ton of emails from pretty much every one of them about how theу are updating their Privacy Policies to acknowledge this regulation and be transparent on What personal data is stored, How it's used and What control you have over it.

It's just like many years ago, when there was a regulation about cookies and since then every website has a popup in a corner on the first visit about how it's using cookies, a link to the policy and "ok" button.


Ahhh I see, thank you very much!!

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