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Our best guess right now is that GCW-Sieve has about a year to go before it gets shut down. It's way too early to know whether it will shut down permanently or temporarily. We may eventually start testing additional bases, and if so, we'll need to sieve those bases.
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Thanks for the heads up.
I just enabled the project again, so that I can get up to the gold badge before GCW-Sieve gets shutdown. |
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How can I run more than one GCW Sieve task at a time ?
When running one task, I see my system uses only 18% of its capacity
(i7 6700 @3.4 GHz, 4 cores, HT on)
I currently use an app_config.xml to control llrxxx applications, but I don't know how to set it for GCW Sieve (actually, I don't even know if it is possible to do so) |
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Never mind.
I'm using this in app_config.xml and it works
<app>
<name>gcw_sieve</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<fraction_done_exact/>
</app>
<app_version>
<app_name>gcw_sieve</app_name>
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
</app_version>
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Never mind.
I'm using this in app_config.xml and it works
<app>
<name>gcw_sieve</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<fraction_done_exact/>
</app>
<app_version>
<app_name>gcw_sieve</app_name>
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
</app_version>
App_config is not needed at all for GCW-Sieve. Let's take this line by line...
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
If you want to use all the available cores, that's BOINC's default, so this statement is not needed. Delete it.
<fraction_done_exact/>
This is never needed at PrimeGrid. We set this on the server side, so it's redundant to set it on the client side.
Since that's the entire contents of the <app> block, we can remove it entirely. Now for <app_version>...
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
Again, this is the default, so it's redundant. We can remove it. Since that's all that was in the <app_version> block, it can be entirely removed.
And now there's nothing left to put in app_config.
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Indeed, there's no need to touch app_config.xml.
I had set "Use at most 12.5% of the CPUs" in BOINC Manager and this was limiting the number of simultaneous GCW Sieve to 1.
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Since it seems that tasks done has gone 25% after this post (excluding the ESP challenge when it went down) and a month has passed, has the estimation of time remaining changed? Could sieving for some bases be shut down before others? |
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Since it seems that tasks done has gone 25% after this post (excluding the ESP challenge when it went down) and a month has passed, has the estimation of time remaining changed? Could sieving for some bases be shut down before others?
Time remaining is a fuzzy value as the optimal sieving level depends on what kind of CPUs we assume are running both sieving and LLR. It's less than a month since Mike's first post and the deadline is still more or less a year away.
Yes, we have individual control over which bases we sieve and it's likely that some bases will be shut down earlier than others. |
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Have there been any considerations as to which project is going to be selected as default when new users join Primegrid?
Perhaps PPS-sieve? |
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Have there been any considerations as to which project is going to be selected as default when new users join Primegrid?
Perhaps PPS-sieve?
You ask a VERY good question.
We discussed this last month, and while we didn't make any decision, the two most likely candidates are PPS-Sieve and GFN-16. The reason PPS-Sieve isn't the obvious choice is because the tasks are rather long (because of the GPU tasks) and we won't really need any of this sieving for many, many years. The PPS sieve is way ahead of the LLR effort.
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We discussed this last month, and while we didn't make any decision, the two most likely candidates are PPS-Sieve and GFN-16. The reason PPS-Sieve isn't the obvious choice is because the tasks are rather long (because of the GPU tasks) and we won't really need any of this sieving for many, many years. The PPS sieve is way ahead of the LLR effort.
Partner up with SRBase and sieve their ranges :) |
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Partner up with SRBase and sieve their ranges :)
Unless I'm mistaken another BOINC project is already doing the sieving for CRUS.
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Unless I'm mistaken another BOINC project is already doing the sieving for CRUS.
You're correct; yoyo@home is already doing this sieving. |
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maybe ppse oder sgs as an automatic project for sign up? |
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Or GFN16 CPU. No AVX necessary.
Or reopen CW sieve ;). |
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maybe ppse oder sgs as an automatic project for sign up?
We want to avoid using LLR or any other AVX/FMA-capable project as a default project. On modern Intel CPUs use of these features consume more power, produce more heat, and make more noise (from fans speeding up) than unsuspecting users might be expecting.
That leaves PPS-Sieve and GFN-16 through GFN-20 as the only options.
Or GFN16 CPU. No AVX necessary.
Didn't I say that in my initial answer to the question? PPS-Sieve or GFN-16 are the most likely projects to be the default after GCW-Sieve.
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It seems that 321 and Cullen/Woodall are only sieved to half the N level as most of the other LLR projects. While all the conjectures and GCW are sieved to either n=50M or, in the case of bases other than 2, 15 million digits, 321 and CW are sieved only to n=25M.
At some point we will need to restart both of those sieves in order to sieve 25M<n<=50M. It's not an urgent need, and we certainly have at least a few years before it's a problem, but 321 sieve would make a good default CPU project and CW sieve would make a good default GPU project if we had an AMD app to go along with the existing Nvidia app.
In theory, 321-sieve would be a better choice for a default CPU app than either PPS-Sieve or GFN-16, so this is something we're likely to give a lot of thought to.
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+1 (to CW sieve from a purely oersonal standpoint).
Yeah, everyone wants to see old projects reopened to get that next badge, or to be able to get a badge that closed before you started. I have no doubt that restarting any suspended project will be very popular.
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but we have time untill gcw sv is sieved to optimal depth |
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At some point we will need to restart both of those sieves in order to sieve 25M<n<=50M. It's not an urgent need, and we certainly have at least a few years before it's a problem, but 321 sieve would make a good default CPU project and CW sieve would make a good default GPU project if we had an AMD app to go along with the existing Nvidia app.
For those of us who are newcomers and did not have the opportunity earlier to work on these two badges, this is awesome news! Even just one of the two starting "soon" would be most welcome. |
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+1 (to CW sieve from a purely oersonal standpoint).
Yeah, everyone wants to see old projects reopened to get that next badge, or to be able to get a badge that closed before you started. I have no doubt that restarting any suspended project will be very popular.
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What about TRPsv, will that reopen or is it up to 50M already? My only silver badge. Really like to get it to turquoise :(
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What about TRPsv, will that reopen or is it up to 50M already? My only silver badge. Really like to get it to turquoise :(
It's 50M.
We just shut it down relatively recently. I don't expect to reopen it unless there's some unexpected change that makes sieving suddenly more efficient that testing with LLR.
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What about TRPsv, will that reopen or is it up to 50M already? My only silver badge. Really like to get it to turquoise :(
It's 50M.
We just shut it down relatively recently. I don't expect to reopen it unless there's some unexpected change that makes sieving suddenly more efficient that testing with LLR.
Joint effort with SRBase to reopen TRP-SV or riot :) |
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What about TRPsv, will that reopen or is it up to 50M already? My only silver badge. Really like to get it to turquoise :(
It's 50M.
We just shut it down relatively recently. I don't expect to reopen it unless there's some unexpected change that makes sieving suddenly more efficient that testing with LLR.
Thanks Michael.
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Joint effort with SRBase to reopen TRP-SV or riot :)
No otherwise I have to take my CPU sieves to sapphire! |
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Michael, are we still on track with the original guestimate that "GCW-Sieve has about a year to go before it gets shut down"? |
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Michael, are we still on track with the original guestimate that "GCW-Sieve has about a year to go before it gets shut down"?
I have no additional information at this time. I will let you know when our plans are better defined. Don't expect more information until 2019 since we will be busy with the server move.
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Michael, are we still on track with the original guestimate that "GCW-Sieve has about a year to go before it gets shut down"?
I have no additional information at this time. I will let you know when our plans are better defined. Don't expect more information until 2019 since we will be busy with the server move.
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We've just shut down GCW sieving for bases 29, 47, 101 and 109 as they're past the optimally sieved point. This will allow the other bases (13, 25, 49, 55, 69, 73, 121) to sieve faster. There's no change in credit and if I hadn't said anything, very few of you would have noticed the difference. Unsent and in-progress workunits already created for those four bases will stay in the system until they complete normally. |
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Any rough idea how many more months worth of work may still be available at current crunching rates? |
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We promised a year on 2018-03-28. GCW Sieve will not shut down before then, but it might well keep going on after that. We won't know until we get close to that date. |
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We promised a year on 2018-03-28. GCW Sieve will not shut down before then, but it might well keep going on after that. We won't know until we get close to that date.
Thank you. I need about another 100 days at my end and no more. |
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My RAC on each of my systems has dropped by about 2000 credits/day. Has there been any sort of change implemented in relation to the work units? I know that some bases have been dropped but would the remaining bases require extra processing and which would potentially explain the drop in RAC?
The only change at my end has been the drop in ambient temperature and which would help slightly if nothing else.
Thanks.
Edit: I went back to BOINC 7.6.22 from my recent upgrade to 7.14.2. I will see how things proceed from here. |
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My RAC on each of my systems has dropped by about 2000 credits/day. Has there been any sort of change implemented in relation to the work units? I know that some bases have been dropped but would the remaining bases require extra processing and which would potentially explain the drop in RAC?
The only change at my end has been the drop in ambient temperature and which would help slightly if nothing else.
Thanks.
Edit: I went back to BOINC 7.6.22 from my recent upgrade to 7.14.2. I will see how things proceed from here.
Pure speculation: People were seeing that AP27 ran noticeably slower with 400+ Nvidia drivers. perhaps it affects PPS-Sieve as well? Were your drivers updated?
Besides ending some bases, there has been no other change on the server side. If that changed your RAC, however, it's only because the bases that were shut down were getting slightly too much credit, but I don't think that would have been significant enough to notice.
I don't remember whether Jim has released new sieve files or not, but that will only speed up the sieve (and we don't adjust credit when we do that), so even if you could notice that change, it would be up, not down.
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I am running GCW Sieve using purely CPU's and hopefully the NVIDIA driver does not impact things. Let me see how things go with the older version of BOINC which I have purposely reinstalled. Something that I noticed in passing has been the fact that there would be rather frequent CPU benchmarkings going on with the latest version for some reason and which, of course, involves a suspension in processing for the benchmarking to transpire.
It is quite unfortunate if we have to worry about the NVIDIA drivers and/or versions of BOINC we use for maximum throughput and performance. |
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I am already seeing a difference when using the older version of BOINC (7.6.22). It reminds me of the wise saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.".
I will report back in a couple of days. |
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I am running GCW Sieve using purely CPU's and hopefully the NVIDIA driver does not impact things. Let me see how things go with the older version of BOINC which I have purposely reinstalled. Something that I noticed in passing has been the fact that there would be rather frequent CPU benchmarkings going on with the latest version for some reason and which, of course, involves a suspension in processing for the benchmarking to transpire.
It is quite unfortunate if we have to worry about the NVIDIA drivers and/or versions of BOINC we use for maximum throughput and performance.
Not sure what I was thinking, but of course you're right about GCW-Sieve being CPU only and not affected by the drivers. It seems I really do need to wake up before going on the forums.
I can't think of any reason for a big drop in RAC.
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If your run times are no different then it might be worth seeing if your pending credit goes up when the RAC drops.
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If your run times are no different then it might be worth seeing if your pending credit goes up when the RAC drops.
This is something that I thought of as well. For example, many folks are busy right now with the AP challenge.
However, I first noticed the drop in RAC at least a week ago; before the start of the AP challenge and also with steady pending credit.
I have reverted back to my previous version of BOINC and I expect to have definitive results in one to two days. |
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Hi Michael,
Any more clarification on a date for the end of the GCW Sieve (for now)? and possibly a start date for 321 Sieve?
Thanx
I'm impatient ;)
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Sieving is one of the things I do, so I'll answer.
As of the moment, I'm planning on starting 321 sieving right after the TdP, probably on March 1st, though I still have some work to do before that.
On GCW sieving there are eleven different b values. The optimal point is different for each of them, depending on how long it takes to sieve and how long it takes to run LLR on those bases.
Bases 13, 25, 55, 69 need a relatively significant amount of sieving.
Bases 29 and 49 need a bit more but are close to being stopped.
I stopped 47 and 101 a few days ago. 73, 109 and 116 were already stopped.
With just six bases still generating new sieving jobs, I don't expect 29 and 49 to last long. It all depends on how many people are still sieving GCW when that new 321 Sieve badge becomes available on March 1. My current thinking is that GCW might last until May, but I can't guarantee it. If you want to upgrade a GCW badge, don't wait. |
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Thanx JimB,
I'm Sieving away to try to be 'sapphire' or maybe 'top 100' before it goes away
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Hmm, I need 120 days of work to reach my goal. Always late. :) |
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My thanks as well. |
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I got a total of 75 CPU threads working on it, let's see how high I can go badge-wise until this thing closes.
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I guess you'll pass by me in the 'sapphire' badge!!
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I need a month post TdP to flip to Double Bronze at 100 million. Perfect timing with respect to the proposed end date. |
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I guess you'll pass by me in the 'sapphire' badge!!
The race is on, good sir!
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depending on the 1st or 30th of may I will get my jade badge
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new calculation...I fear I will not get to jade. 10 days till tourquoise + 44 day till tourquise is really more end of may and not beginning of may :(
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Ouch, not good. Do you have multiple machines where you can download 3.5-4 days worth of cache? Perhaps disable GPU computing for a slight bump in CPU performance? |
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I can cache but I have only one machine for PG...so maybe 3-4 days is cacheable...
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Are we still looking at May-ish for optimal depth?
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I can't find the thread, but JimB confirmed May 1 or 2. You may have some leftover tasks after that but I wouldn't count on having enough to hit your Jade badge. |
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I'll be happy if I can hit Gold, or even Amethyst...got a month or so.
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Oof, that's gonna be tight. I need ~4.5M to reach Jade, but by my calculations, I'll only make it to 4M. I might need to create extra PCs out of thin air... |
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Need just a bit more credit for a badge? WUProp hours? Best hurry up and get it now.
Oof, that's gonna be tight. I need ~4.5M to reach Jade, but by my calculations, I'll only make it to 4M. I might need to create extra PCs out of thin air...
:) aws freebie maybe?
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Oof, that's gonna be tight. I need ~4.5M to reach Jade, but by my calculations, I'll only make it to 4M. I might need to create extra PCs out of thin air...
:) aws freebie maybe?
AWS free tier is nearly useless : 1 thread for 2 hours per day. You are better off with Google Cloud, where you can run 16 cores for 1 month.
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Oof, that's gonna be tight. I need ~4.5M to reach Jade, but by my calculations, I'll only make it to 4M. I might need to create extra PCs out of thin air...
:) aws freebie maybe?
AWS free tier is nearly useless : 1 thread for 2 hours per day. You are better off with Google Cloud, where you can run 16 cores for 1 month.
Wow, aws is that poor? I still haven't tried cloud at all yet. Will check out Google cloud tomorrow though :) cheers
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I can cache but I have only one machine for PG...so maybe 3-4 days is cacheable...
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Set your cache to 20 days (10 + 10). I think you might have a chance of making it if you crunch until May 21st.
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Set your cache to 20 days (10 + 10). I think you might have a chance of making it if you crunch until May 21st.
Except that they expire after 4 days.
And that 4 day deadline will give you 2 problems:
1) After 5 days and 1 hour (the server will give you 25 extra hours), the server will mark any tasks that haven't been returned and haven't trickled as late, and will send out new tasks to replace them. Once those replacements are returned and are validated, a 4 day timer will start running, and when it expires, the workunit will be purged from the database. Once it's purged, you can no longer get credit for the task even if you do return it. After a little more than 9 days, you may no longer get credit when you return the task.
2) This one's worse. Once the 4 day deadline passes, your computer will automatically abort every task that hasn't started yet.
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3) The server will send you at most 320 tasks per core.
If you really want to try to game it, set the queue for about 10 days. Remember workunits start getting purged a bit after 9 days so you don't want to waste a lot of time crunching useless tasks. Once you get the tasks, be creative with suspending the tasks to force them to all run for at least a few seconds. That will prevent BOINC from aborting them after 4 days.
To get around the 320 task/core limit, you can use a cc_config.xml directive to get BOINC to act as if it has more cores.
If you play your cards right you may be able to squeeze about 10 days worth of work out of the server.
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10 Days is to few for me. I will stop gcw sieve after Turquoise... a shame. I like Jade as color more :(
It was a "mistake" to particpate at the SoB-Challange^^
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I crunch Ten Years in PG, Prime Grid Supportet and PG Team,
please give me the Blue Button of GCW sieve.
Can get it ?
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I crunch Ten Years in PG, Prime Grid Supportet and PG Team,
please give me the Blue Button of GCW sieve.
Can get it ?
Tom Armstrong
If you keep up your current pace for the rest of the month you should make it with a little room to spare. You can add a work buffer of a couple days (in boinc manager) when we get close to the end and it's looking iffy.
Looking forward to my emerald badge, 66 threads plugging away!
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Michael can you give us hint if we are on schedule, ahead of schedule or slightly behind schedule to be done by the end of the month?
I personally have put all my cpu cores here and will get a new badge imminently but the next badge is double that number, Jade to Sapphire, and am concerned I may put forth the effort only to come up short. I realize calculating MY effort isn't worth our time so I'm just asking for guidelines. You have lots of other projects I need badges for too especially the recently reopened 321 Sieve project. |
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Michael can you give us hint if we are on schedule, ahead of schedule or slightly behind schedule to be done by the end of the month?
I personally have put all my cpu cores here and will get a new badge imminently but the next badge is double that number, Jade to Sapphire, and am concerned I may put forth the effort only to come up short. I realize calculating MY effort isn't worth our time so I'm just asking for guidelines. You have lots of other projects I need badges for too especially the recently reopened 321 Sieve project.
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Mikey,
I think JimB has suggested on another thread that the sieve could go as long as June 1st, it all depends how much is being done by people like us who are throwing all their CPUs at it.
Good luck at getting Sapphire - I already have it and have no chance of Emerald before June 1st, but I am aiming for 'top 70' of GCW Sieve
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Mikey,
I think JimB has suggested on another thread that the sieve could go as long as June 1st, it all depends how much is being done by people like us who are throwing all their CPUs at it.
Good luck at getting Sapphire - I already have it and have no chance of Emerald before June 1st, but I am aiming for 'top 70' of GCW Sieve
Dad
Thanks!! Then I guess I'm back at it, I will make the changes right now!!
I just got my Jade today and have about half a million towards Sapphire already but I had switched things over to 321 Sieve. |
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Michael can you give us hint if we are on schedule, ahead of schedule or slightly behind schedule to be done by the end of the month?
This past Saturday Jim said on Discord that he expects the sieve to end on May 1st as announced. I would not expect to have extra time.
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Michael can you give us hint if we are on schedule, ahead of schedule or slightly behind schedule to be done by the end of the month?
This past Saturday Jim said on Discord that he expects the sieve to end on May 1st as announced. I would not expect to have extra time.
Hmmm thank you very much!!
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If we hadn't announced May 1st I could make a very good argument for closing that sieving down right now. We're only generating new work for b=69 as of this moment and it's gone from being well above optimal two weeks ago to now being past optimal. I fully expect to shut down generation of new GCW Sieve workunits on May 1st as previously announced. They have a 4-day expiration and while they do trickle, only running tasks can have their deadline extended. I suggest filling your cache on April 30th and/or May 1st if you're close to the next badge. I'd expect that subproject to run out of work within an hour or two of us stopping work generation. While some jobs will recycle for a few weeks, they're going to be few and far between. |
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If we hadn't announced May 1st I could make a very good argument for closing that sieving down right now. We're only generating new work for b=69 as of this moment and it's gone from being well above optimal two weeks ago to now being past optimal. I fully expect to shut down generation of new GCW Sieve workunits on May 1st as previously announced. They have a 4-day expiration and while they do trickle, only running tasks can have their deadline extended. I suggest filling your cache on April 30th and/or May 1st if you're close to the next badge. I'd expect that subproject to run out of work within an hour or two of us stopping work generation. While some jobs will recycle for a few weeks, they're going to be few and far between.
Thank you very much, I personally am forging ahead but will reevaluate as we get closer. It took me about 10 days to go from Gold to Jade so I may have a chance. |
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Mikey,
I think JimB has suggested on another thread that the sieve could go as long as June 1st, it all depends how much is being done by people like us who are throwing all their CPUs at it.
Good luck at getting Sapphire - I already have it and have no chance of Emerald before June 1st, but I am aiming for 'top 70' of GCW Sieve
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Where can I find such a ranking by subproject?
On your account page there is a section labeled "Cross-project statistics" and in there is a link for Free-DC. You will need to navigate a little if you are looking for just PG stats. I'm hoping this is what you are asking for.
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Where can I find such a ranking by subproject?
On your account page there is a section labeled "Cross-project statistics" and in there is a link for Free-DC. You will need to navigate a little if you are looking for just PG stats. I'm hoping this is what you are asking for.
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Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for. I was expecting it to be some first party feature, not third party. I had never really bothered checking these Boinc stats websites... |
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All the other shutoff b's past optimal too?
At optimal or past optimal, which is why they're shut down.
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All the other shutoff b's past optimal too?
Well past optimal.
I've now reopened reopened bases 13 and 121 because they weren't as far past optimal as 69 has gotten over the last few days.
GCW sieving could reopen in the future for the following reasons:
1) We don't find a prime for a base and get up near 15-million-digit candidates, which is what the optimal sieving level is based on. This will take years.
2) We decide to test other bases and need to do sieving before we can start them in LLR. We'd need to find primes for some of the 11 bases we're testing now before even considering adding more.
I don't foresee GCW sieving coming back before at least five years, unless we hit a streak of primes for the current bases. Since we're searching bases with no known primes, we stop LLR testing on a base when we find a prime.
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Where can I find such a ranking by subproject?
On your account page there is a section labeled "Cross-project statistics" and in there is a link for Free-DC. You will need to navigate a little if you are looking for just PG stats. I'm hoping this is what you are asking for.
Cheers
Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for. I was expecting it to be some first party feature, not third party. I had never really bothered checking these Boinc stats websites...
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Just sub your user ID for mine and BINGO!
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I got my sapphire (20m) badge, as well as 100k hours for wuprop. Whew!
It looks like I will end up around 114th for this sub-project.
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I got my sapphire (20m) badge, as well as 100k hours for wuprop. Whew!
It looks like I will end up around 114th for this sub-project.
CONGRATULATIONS!!
I'm right behind you in getting my own Sapphire badge, 1,002,994 credits to go with
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I got my sapphire (20m) badge, as well as 100k hours for wuprop. Whew!
It looks like I will end up around 114th for this sub-project.
CONGRATULATIONS!!
I'm right behind you in getting my own Sapphire badge, 1,002,994 credits to go with
Pending credit: 663,483.
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And today I made it up to 130th place:
Congrats and even better finishing ahead of the deadline. |
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And today I made it up to 130th place:
Congrats and even better finishing ahead of the deadline.
Thank you!! I had every cpu core except one in every pc I have running it, I went from Gold to Sapphire in 18 days but I will never make the next badge in this sub-project, so I moved most of my cores back to WCG to get some bigger badges there. I have ten year badges in one of my accounts but only one year badges in another account there so I'm working on that right now. |
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Work generation for GCW Sieve is now turned off. There are still around 1800 jobs available at the moment. When those run out, I expect that other jobs will expire and become available at times over the next few weeks. |
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When I saw the announcement a month ago, I threw everything at it, enough to make it my first gold, then my first amethyst. But, not enough power in my dinky little i3 laptop to make it to the next level (ruby). I have enough tasks spooled up (and enough time before they expire) that I might be able to get up to around 1.6-1.7 million before they're done. But, alas, "close", as they say, only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and h-bombs. Oh well. |
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Work generation for GCW Sieve is now turned off. There are still around 1800 jobs available at the moment. When those run out, I expect that other jobs will expire and become available at times over the next few weeks.
On a whim just now I suspended another project and tried to get some GCW Sieve tasks and the Server says none are available. I see that as a good thing as it means you don't need any more pc's to finish this project up in the near future as you had hoped too! |
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All the GCW sieve tasks have now been sent out to host computers for processing.
Some will have error of some sort, and some will simply never be heard from again. A few may fail validation. In these cases, the server will send out a replacement task, so there may be a few GCW-Sieve tasks sporadically available over the coming weeks.
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And we're done!
All tasks are done, and the last workunit has been purged from the database. Relevant web pages have been changed to remove GCW Sieve.
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