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The old Squeak thread has vanished I suspect on account of being so large rather than my poor jests. If it is the latter let me know.
Anyway I am partway through a semaphore marathon but I am starting to flag badly. |
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That, sir, is a good one! |
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I went to the bookshop and asked if they had any books on Schroedinger's cat. The clerk said he wasn't sure but if I looked I'd find out. |
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Coincidentally, I was in a library recently - I saw an altered trouser-leg on one of the shelves. There's a turn-up for the books. |
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Someone keeps leaving empty beer bottles inside my house. How rude. |
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Someone keeps leaving empty beer bottles inside my house. How rude.
Oddly enough I was driving my very elderly car which you may recall. As ever the hills were a bit of a struggle for it and the engine died. A tramp/hobo passed me as I was looking at the engine.
He said "What seems to be the trouble?"
I replied "Piston broke."
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It seems threads are now ordered by date of original post. Rats, especially old Agg, are very social and it is very important for them to engage with other vermin so I made this thread sticky. Agg doubtless would say "Got any yoghurt drops?" |
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Well I hope the cab can be revived. 'Twas a treat to ride in it.
I'll pass along to the rest of the Rats the question that I mentioned to The Revenant Rat that I specifically stated would *not* be asked: "Can I drive?"
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the question that ... would *not* be asked: "Can I drive?"
Presumably because changing gear on a manual transmission vehicle, using the clutch, and simultaneously waving a finger out of the window at 'Chelsea Tractor' drivers isn't a skill that's often practised across the pond...
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How did it go Brink? The only time to be worried about a prostate exam is when the doctor has both hands on your hips. |
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How did it go Brink? The only time to be worried about a prostate exam is when the doctor has both hands on your hips.
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the question that ... would *not* be asked: "Can I drive?"
Presumably because changing gear on a manual transmission vehicle, using the clutch, and simultaneously waving a finger out of the window at 'Chelsea Tractor' drivers isn't a skill that's often practised across the pond...
"Chelsea tractor"... that's not a term I'd heard before... had to google it. For my part, I have a 4x4, and have used and abused it in the desert for almost 20 years while hiking, and it has never failed me.
As for driving on the left, I am still more comfortable in traffic circles (err... "roundabouts") going clockwise rather than the opposite. Circles are uncommon in the US, but I got plenty of experience in Australia several years ago.
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How did it go Brink? The only time to be worried about a prostate exam is when the doctor has both hands on your hips.
:0 I'm stealing that one!
Well, I had the doc, nurse and the tech who was showing the doc the "new" software upgrade to the ultrasound equipment all in the room. So no hanky-panky ;)
Although the pain was very minimal, the uncomfortable level was a 10. Thirty minutes of every muscle in your body all tensed up not knowing what to expect. It was exhausting.
So you have this 3/4" probe that is an ultrasound device that the doc uses to pick the areas he wants to shoot the needle at. It even has crosshairs. Very weird sensation to say the least! After the numbing injections wore off, then the pain came. Better today though. Working from home, laying on my side. ;)
The good news in all of this is he did not see anything out of the norm. He also mentioned that I have a very large prostate which may account for the high PSA levels. So now I just wait until the needle samples come back from the lab. Hoping for all negative!
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I am hoping beyond hope they played this https://youtu.be/It7107ELQvY while you were undergoing the procedure.
It is very many years ago but at one time I did a fair bit of IP work on PSA as a marker. I can't remember the details. I rather think that the current UK position is that PSA is not regarded as a useful measure so I'd not get too concerned,
The acid test is the histology and you should have the news, hopefully good, about that fairly soon.
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All this talk of IP + PSA is making me think of PRPNet. |
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All this talk of IP + PSA is making me think of PRPNet.
In which we are doing quite well!
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Intra-Poo and Poo Station Alpha?
Best not to delve too deeply into these things I suppose.
Has everybody seen "The Road To Wellville"? You can IMDB it but it doesn't really give you a good idea of what the film is, (and apparently what the real "Dr." Kellogg) was like.
Dr. Kill Log, more like.
Cryptic crossword clue of the day, given the EU debate:
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Hates foreigners using phone boxes (10)
xenophobes. Strictly should be "Hate foreigners ..." to match the plural in the solution.
Some other topical clues I just made up:
Two steaks deboned for candidate (5)
MP with Russian genitalia? (5,7)
Unknown tribe crazy to leave (6)
Founder ran event badly (8)
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Hates foreigners using phone boxes (10)
xenophobes. Strictly should be "Hate foreigners ..." to match the plural in the solution.
- Iain
It was a rubbish clue in a local paper, I think it actually read "...telephone kiosks", which obviously doesn't make the anagram. But that is par for the course for the East Anglian Daily Times.
Is "Founder..." Revenant? That's the only one I could get, if it's right. if it's not right then I WAS ONLY JOKING, HAHAHA TRICKED YOU! |
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Is "Founder..." Revenant? That's the only one I could get, if it's right. if it's not right then I WAS ONLY JOKING, HAHAHA TRICKED YOU!
Yes, bit of an AtP-specific one that... "badly" is the anagram indicator for "ran event", giving our very own team founder "The Revenant Rat".
Anyone fancy a go at the remaining three clues?
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I can't do them without sitting down for hours, although I have plenty of rude suggestions for Russian genitalia (5,7); most of which are unsuitable for this forum.
Putin Vaginas? :double winking smiley: |
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Putin Vaginas? :double winking smiley:
Nice try! I extended the clue a bit to make it a true double-definition...
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Nigel? |
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
Excellent news.
Nearly as good a news as me finding my debit card a few minutes ago.
Re clues & phone boxes, I was mixing Trump + Superman & coming up with Supertrump.
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Nigel?
nope...
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
Great news, Brink!
Re clues & phone boxes, I was mixing Trump + Superman & coming up with Supertrump.
You might be on to something there...
Since I'm bored on my train home, here's some more clues - a bit contrived but never mind...
Search hard or get lucky to find some top quality painkillers. (5,7)
Seats for a congregation of white rats (4)
Dangerously risqué tailless rat in show for Yank. (4, 5)
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
Excellent news.
Do you feel you will be able to watch the movie Paul any time soon? |
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Seats for a congregation of white rats (4)
Surely a congregation of white rats would sit on pews.
By way of explanation to those who don't know since they are Pink Eyed Whites. |
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Two clergymen on a train.
"No, no, no that can't be right."
"Can I assist you?"
"Well I've been doing the crossword and I am stuck on the very last clue; 'Essentially feminine (4)'. I know that the last three letters are u, n & t."
"That'll be 'aunt' won't it?"
"My word! You are right! Have you an eraser?" |
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
Excellent news.
Do you feel you will be able to watch the movie Paul any time soon?
I love that movie. LOL!
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Seats for a congregation of white rats (4)
Surely a congregation of white rats would sit on pews.
By way of explanation to those who don't know since they are Pink Eyed Whites.
Bing! Correct answer.
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I think I'd been a member of AtP for more than a year until someone mentioned "pink eyed white" to me - I'd honestly assumed that Tim had owned a rat called Aggie, which smelled a bit. |
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I think I'd been a member of AtP for more than a year until someone mentioned "pink eyed white" to me - I'd honestly assumed that Tim had owned a rat called Aggie, which smelled a bit.
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I think I'd been a member of AtP for more than a year until someone mentioned "pink eyed white" to me - I'd honestly assumed that Tim had owned a rat called Aggie, which smelled a bit.
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one to be so ignorant. |
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I have no cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God what a relief!
Great news and I am sure it is incredible relief! |
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Given the clear facts now, but owing to the humour of AtP, can I just say that I am VERY disappointed that Brink doesn't have aggressive, terminal cancer? |
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I think I'd been a member of AtP for more than a year until someone mentioned "pink eyed white" to me - I'd honestly assumed that Tim had owned a rat called Aggie, which smelled a bit.
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one to be so ignorant.
Ah Tim, as you can see your presence has been missed. I mean we have folks running around with all kinds of misconceptions - ha
@g - I wouldn't wish any kind of cancer on anyone - I do realize the comment was made in jest :) |
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Given the clear facts now, but owing to the humour of AtP, can I just say that I am VERY disappointed that Brink doesn't have aggressive, terminal cancer?
I am sorry to disagree with any vermin especially one so well-reputed and well credited but I am not. |
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Look, it's a controversial view and there is a massive grey area.
I'm confusing this with the EU referendum again, aren't I? |
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Look, it's a controversial view and there is a massive grey area.
I'm confusing this with the EU referendum again, aren't I?
Regarding the "brexit" vote, pardon this question from an ignorant American: will the vote be binding and final, or is it merely advisory and it is then up to Parliament to take official action?
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Given the clear facts now, but owing to the humour of AtP, can I just say that I am VERY disappointed that Brink doesn't have aggressive, terminal cancer?
I just wish I had a video of the biopsy procedure to share with you all. LOL
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Regarding the "brexit" vote, pardon this question from an ignorant American: will the vote be binding and final, or is it merely advisory and it is then up to Parliament to take official action?
--Gary
With respect to the EU other nations have found that that if they vote the wrong way they have to keep voting they until they get it right, See for example the French and Dutch referendums on the EU constitution about 10 years ago.
Notionally the result is binding but I think that there are so many vested interests that it would get bodged. In any event it would barely be possible for a decision to leave to be made on a Thursday and by the following Monday for us to have left the EU.
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In my spare time I help blind children. I mean the verb not the adjective. |
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I just wish I had a video of the biopsy procedure to share with you all. LOL
Dr: So Brink we are going to perform a prostate examination. If it gets uncomfortable at anytime let me know.
Sometime later.
Brink: Err. I am feeling a bit uncomfortable. Could you raise the lights and stop filming?
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I just wish I had a video of the biopsy procedure to share with you all. LOL
Dr: So Brink we are going to perform a prostate examination. If it gets uncomfortable at anytime let me know.
Sometime later.
Brink: Err. I am feeling a bit uncomfortable. Could you raise the lights and stop filming?
bwahahaha....Busted a gut on that one! The wife even laughed.
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bwahahaha....Busted a gut on that one!
Better get back to your proctologist then, etc. etc.
Like our Revenant Rat and most other people I know, I've not yet decided how to vote because it's all so complicated, and so many people have so many vested interests in it, and will spout absolutely anything out in the media to try to swing you. In general, the more reading up you do, the more complex it gets, too.
This is a relatively quick, basic explanation of it. I think Martin Lewis there only got involved because, as he says, a leaflet used his image and a quote out of context, without asking him. |
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... and two bits of good news for me. I don't have bowel cancer! (I had a couple of days in hospital recently). The old cab is at last back on the road. I love the look, sound and smell of it and how it is a bit like driving an armchair. The dog'll be pleased too as we can go out into the countryside for our walks instead of just locally. |
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I'll never forget how happy I was when I saw her coming down the aisle towards me. My heart beat faster, it seemed to take forever but eventually there she was, standing beside me.
I gave her a loving smile and said "Erin, push the trolley over here. They're doing 3 cartons of beer for the price of 2!" |
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Well if that 'video' uses as much data as what I saw at Fri teatime I won't be going anywhere near it. I currently have no broadband 'til early next week due to some bugger up with BT so had to use my phone but exceeded mobile data so it's cost me extra. Got extra 2GB for £10 which hopefully will allow me to watch the Delta 4-Heavy this eve.
PG-wise manual sieving to the rescue although I risk continuing current BOINC cache for nothing as the units may not be able to be uploaded before the server purges them. I am hoping things will be up + working by Mega challenge (better bluddy not take that long to resolve!). |
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Where are you watching that Dave?
Incidentally while satellites are generally a nuisance for my astrophotography I align my telescope parallel to the polar axis. These days it takes me a minute or two but I think I always see at least one satellite in polar orbit when I do. |
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It should be live on SpaceFlightNow/NASATV with a big window starting from 18:51BST. |
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I was in a pet shop to buy some breeding birds.
When I went to pay, the assistant asked, "Have you got a store card."
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I was in a pet shop to buy some breeding birds.
When I went to pay, the assistant asked, "Have you got a store card."
I said, "No, but I did get a budgie very excited once."
Oh boo hiss - took TheDawgz a couple of reads.
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Oh boo hiss - took TheDawgz a couple of reads.
I remember the first time Erin met my parents.
The Old Man took me to one side and side "Son, I think this one is keeper."
"Thanks," I said "I am pleased if you like her."
"I didn't say that. I just think she smells of elephant dung."
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British humor and terms - go figure.
Keeper - one who tends to or looks after wild and stray vermin |
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British humor and terms - go figure.
Keeper - one who tends to or looks after wild and stray vermin
It would have been funnier with a definite article.
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... and two bits of good news for me. I don't have bowel cancer! (I had a couple of days in hospital recently). The old cab is at last back on the road. I love the look, sound and smell of it and how it is a bit like driving an armchair. The dog'll be pleased too as we can go out into the countryside for our walks instead of just locally.
Awesome news Tim! For both of us! Just got to reading this thread. I've been busy upgrading our company to Office 365/2016. Not fun. Keeping a Novell Groupwise system at the same time as migrating over to 365. Making both work during it all is a pain! 12 hour days. :(
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Keeping a Novell Groupwise system at the same time as migrating over to 365. Making both work during it all is a pain! 12 hour days. :(
Novell? wow |
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I drove the wrong way down a one way street in Wales the other day. A police officer flagged me down and said "Can you make a U turn?" I replied "Probably not, but I can make her eyes water."
This reminds me of a silly old joke: I was driving and made a U-turn where not allowed, and was pulled over by the police. "Don't you know the traffic rules?" I was asked. My answer was, "well officer, I didn't want to turn, but the sign said, No U Turn".
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I drove the wrong way down a one way street in Wales the other day. A police officer flagged me down and said "Can you make a U turn?" I replied "Probably not, but I can make her eyes water."
This reminds me of a silly old joke: I was driving and made a U-turn where not allowed, and was pulled over by the police. "Don't you know the traffic rules?" I was asked. My answer was, "well officer, I didn't want to turn, but the sign said, No U Turn".
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Keeping a Novell Groupwise system at the same time as migrating over to 365. Making both work during it all is a pain! 12 hour days. :(
Novell? wow
Novell -->Attachmate-->MicroFocus
We were running Groupwise on SLES. I still think it's a better mail system than anything MS has but software makers dont write APIs for Groupwise anymore.
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Yep we used to use Rackspace as a mail provider and migrated to office365. Only thing I like about it is that for the right price you can keep office updated. |
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Random and off topic... I have no idea where to find belts for the motors on my robot.. It's an RB5X and I have now gotten everything to work, new batteries, the motors work, but the belts fell apart as soon as they started turning, and the rubber squished in my fingers.. This is what it looks like now.
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My 2003 Dell GX60 Celeron just died. |
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My 2003 Dell GX60 Celeron just died.
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Random and off topic... I have no idea where to find belts for the motors on my robot.. It's an RB5X and I have now gotten everything to work, new batteries, the motors work, but the belts fell apart as soon as they started turning, and the rubber squished in my fingers.. This is what it looks like now.
http://i.imgur.com/drE7DaK.jpg
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I started talking to a bloke in the pub last night. I told him about Erin and how beautiful she is. I took the nude picture of her out of my wallet and showed it to him. He said "If you think she is good looking you should see my wife." "Why?" I said, "is she a real stunner?" "Nope, an optician." |
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Some years ago I acted for a French motor company in discussions with a Japanese one. In my experience the Japanese are tough negotiators but very good hosts. This one proved to be the same. We came to a deal which ultimately was as good as either side could really have expected. I was entertained, very royally and thoughtfully, by my hosts. In deference to my client and, at considerable expense, they produced a bottle of a well known French anise flavoured liquor. I took a sip and broke wind. Loudly. I took another and the same thing happened. Worse on each occasion it made the distinct sound "honda" which was not the name of the Japanese company but rather that of a major competitor. I apologised and the senior man on the other side. "Don't worry. It is well known absinthe makes the fart go 'Honda'." |
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SAD truly SAD
TheDawgz must agree ...
Oscar Wilde: I wish I had said that.
James McNeill Whistler: You will, Oscar, you will. |
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Glass coffins... a good idea?
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Glass coffins... a good idea?
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Glass coffins... a good idea?
Remains to be seen.
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Breaking News:
Alien invasion of Earth thwarted as they accidentally land in the UK and say "Take me to your leader". |
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Breaking News:
Alien invasion of Earth thwarted as they accidentally land in the UK and say "Take me to your leader".
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One of the more amusing moments from my UK journey was when The Revenant Rat showed me the spot where Boris Johnson (former mayor of London, and once a candidate for Prime Minister) fell into a creek. |
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One of the more amusing moments from my UK journey was when The Revenant Rat showed me the spot where Boris Johnson (former mayor of London, and once a candidate for Prime Minister) fell into a creek.
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One of the more amusing moments from my UK journey was when The Revenant Rat showed me the spot where Boris Johnson (former mayor of London, and once a candidate for Prime Minister) fell into a creek.
Speaking of, did I miss your pic posts?
I posted only three, I think, on the "Photo of the Day" thread. Dates are 5 May through 19 May.
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It was just by my house https://youtu.be/6H3ytL0lh0U . Reminds me of Nevil Shute. |
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Not Gary obviously to be clear. We loved to see him.
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As pertains to a Seinfeld episode - "No VOTES for YOU"
I take it you like Curb... too?
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Just a quick update. My PG output has dropped to zero because my in-laws are visiting and staying in the server room^H^H^H^H I mean, "guest room."
I will also be packing up to move from Moscow before long, so I doubt that I'll be doing much crunching until our move is complete later this year.
I'm going to try to spin up some birds for the challenges as they come up, but I'll be on the road so it'll be catch as catch can. I'm so close to my next milestone of 300,000,000!
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Just a quick update. My PG output has dropped to zero because my in-laws are visiting and staying in the server room^H^H^H^H I mean, "guest room."
I will also be packing up to move from Moscow before long, so I doubt that I'll be doing much crunching until our move is complete later this year.
I'm going to try to spin up some birds for the challenges as they come up, but I'll be on the road so it'll be catch as catch can. I'm so close to my next milestone of 300,000,000!
The inlaws visiting in summertime, in the room with the computers? Wouldn't that be a good time to turn them up to 11?
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Anyone seen the Prof around? I was kinda of hoping of hearing stories of his US visit and some political insight. Oh yep and how he was going to fade Z-san. |
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...Oh yep and how he was going to fade Z-san.
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...Oh yep and how he was going to fade Z-san.
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Iain having hijacked EPCC's new computer v Z-san's magnificent arsenal. It has got to be a pleasure to watch. |
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Ahhhhh, gotcha. Yes, it should be excellent.
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...Oh yep and how he was going to fade Z-san.
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Iain having hijacked EPCC's new computer v Z-san's magnificent arsenal. It has got to be a pleasure to watch.
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Ahhhhh, gotcha. Yes, it should be excellent.
Now...release the hounds!
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Anyone seen the Prof around? I was kinda of hoping of hearing stories of his US visit and some political insight. Oh yep and how he was going to fade Z-san.
Just back from a week (mostly) offline in Kent and Hampshire. Mostly uneventful except when we were broken into by a hungry horse... yes really (see https://twitter.com/IainBethune/status/753614603540697088). I see the UK, EU, and US have all continued going to hell in a handcart in my absence. Next time I'm away I'll warn you all in advance so you can locate your nearest underground bunker.
No way I can keep up with the Z-meister in the long run, but I might throw some more cores into the fray for the upcoming challenge...
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So, light-hearted post alert, relating to nations squeaking unto nations:
I notice that Anthony said "faucet" in the other thread - English/British people say "tap", in this context. Faucet does exist in British English but I can't really think of where or when a modern-day English person would use it. Again, not a criticism, I've got American relatives and (probably goes without saying...) watch a hell of a lot of US TV, and so have noticed it before.
To deepen the discussion, most British people say "I'm going to run a bath.", meaning that they are going to "run" the "tap(s)". older, and/or very posh English people don't say that, they say "I'm going to draw a bath.", meaning that they are going to "draw" water into the bathtub. It seems very much like a victorian thing, when people were afraid of speaking about going into the toilet... or indeed, as Americans usually say, the "bathroom". That can create confusion in England/Britain, because a "bathroom" is a room with a bath/shower plus a toilet and sink in it, whereas "The toilet" often refers to a room in a house which only contains a toilet and sink. If I'm at my parents', I'll say "Going to the bog.", if I have to say anything at all. That's where I assume it's the same as the US, i.e. you talk however you and your parents usually talk. But if I'm in a pub/bar/restaurant, and I have to ask a member of staff where things are, I'd say "Hello, sorry, where are the toilets?", which I think is where most US people would use "bathroom", isn't it?
I know US people don't exclusively say "...the bathroom", of course, it depends where you are and who you're with, just like anywhere in the world. I also realise that this is hardly a new topic, and has been done to death. But it's twenty past one in the morning, and I've just typed a load of stuff about toilets, and I'm not going to delete it now. |
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I do say faucet from time to time but I also have been known to say, "turn off the sink". When watering the garden I usually say, "turn on the hose" or "turn on the spigot". My parents say tap and tap water but that's the generation born in the 1940s.
I tap a keg or a kidney or someone's shoulder, that's about it. :)
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When I met the Revenant Rat we had a few exchanges of "two people separated by a common language". No worries (ooh, invoking Australia); it all worked out great.
Now if I get into the Tokyo marathon in February, I might be in a world of hurt. Stay tuned...
--Gary
Indeed and I think I mentioned the inventor of the flush toilet Thomas Crapper lived up the hill and is buried in the local cemetery.
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I notice that Anthony said "faucet" in the other thread - English/British people say "tap", in this context. Faucet does exist in British English but I can't really think of where or when a modern-day English person would use it. Again, not a criticism, I've got American relatives and (probably goes without saying...) watch a hell of a lot of US TV, and so have noticed it before.
I spent 30 years in Canada and, as a result, any nuances in my writings should be directly attributable to Canadian form of speech. Tap is also very common in Canada and, in fact, more common than faucet (ex tap water). Faucet is used to describe the physical plumbing device whereas tap is used for basically everything else. |
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One of the odder things about different usages of words are that of meals in the UK.
My mother came from a very poor family and her mother was very proud that at least the children all had shoes. My mother married into a "higher social class". My father grew up in a relatively well-off middle class family (although I think his family found war time rationing much harder than my mother's but that is a story for another day). Erin like my father married into a "lower social class".
All have breakfast.
As soon as possible after noon my mother would have dinner. My father would lunch shortly before one. Erin's lot would lunch but probably rather later and more heavily than my father.
Occasionally Erin's family have tea in the form of nice light sandwiches and tea that looks like well you guess but not as strong and brown as a proper cup. My mother and father would both drink tea throughout the day.
By around 1800 my mother is looking for her tea which would be her most substantial meal of the day. My father would have dinner ideally rather later and it would be the same sort of meal as my mother. Erin's family will from time to time have dinner which is a formal meal taken with guests. If it is family they have supper taken at a point when I am liable to be gnawing at a dog's leg through hunger. And incidentally my mother and Erin's family would not hesitate to pick up an animal leg and gnaw it but my father's family would be mortified by that. His family but none of the others have special cutlery for fish.
My parents would use a serviette but Erin's family use napkins. The only difference is the name.
I think everyone thinks everyone else is an uncouth fool but all put up with the others and seem to get along very well.
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My parents would use a serviette but Erin's family use napkins. The only difference is the name.
Ah yes - my name for that is "my hands" ;)
My mate (more middle-class than me) calls the evening meal "dinner", whilst my dad's parents (sort of equally middle-class) called it "tea". Both now call it dinner, I think. "Lunch" is universally the mid-day meal. I don't call anything anything, I've never had the need to. Is that a "younger person" thing? Of course I know what all the words mean, but I never have to call it anything when me or my "missus" (when I have one, which currently I haven't) are hungry. When I was at 6th form, I knew someone who had both parents as chefs, and they simply asked everyone constantly if they wanted "food", which I found a bit weird. 8am or 11pm, and anywhere in between.
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Speaking of "whilst", we only have "while" in Canada.
In Southern British English they are synonyms and are used interchangeably. In Northern England "while" can mean "until" rather than the meanings you know of two things happening at the same or time or one thing in contrast to another. In that context "whilst" is more precise.
There was a story that there were several near accidents at road/railway crossings in the north where signs saying "Do not cross the tracks while the lights are flashing" was interpreted as do not cross until the lights are flashing.
Some modern style guides prefer while and whilst I have no objection to that I am happy to use either and would prefer to use both rather than repeat myself in a few words. |
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My mate (more middle-class than me) calls the evening meal "dinner", whilst my dad's parents (sort of equally middle-class) called it "tea". Both now call it dinner, I think. "Lunch" is universally the mid-day meal. I don't call anything anything, I've never had the need to. Is that a "younger person" thing? Of course I know what all the words mean, but I never have to call it anything when me or my "missus" (when I have one, which currently I haven't) are hungry. When I was at 6th form, I knew someone who had both parents as chefs, and they simply asked everyone constantly if they wanted "food", which I found a bit weird. 8am or 11pm, and anywhere in between.
I don't understand why [some] Americans say "tunafish". There isn't another type of tuna.
You are as I recall from north Essex or south Suffolk (which is where I grew up). I don't clearly recall but I think it was school dinner rather than school lunch back in the day. My mother is from the frozen north where it is dinner in the middle of the day and tea in the evening even now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_(meal)
You are right of course to complain about Americans. You are also right to complain about their usage of tunafish. But since the only bass hereabouts are sea fish the UK expression sea bass grieves me too. |
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It's all about the bass (no tuna). |
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It's all about the bass (no tuna).
Can we have him canned? |
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You are right of course to complain about Americans. You are also right to complain about their usage of tunafish. But since the only bass hereabouts are sea fish the UK expression sea bass grieves me too.
Hmmm complain about Americans? How's that even in the realm of possible? Where in the world do you have one iota to "complain" about Americans?
Please, a tuna is a fish but tuna in a can is tunafish. How can you not possibly see that? And where in all this complaining did the term bass show up? We have both sea bass and freshwater bass so that makes us even higher on the pedestal of life.
On a different note, am watching a show on Netflix called "The Last Kingdom" and it's rather well done and very entertaining.
I for one am glad we don't have an odd custom of drinking tea in the mid-afternoon with light sandwiches. What exactly is a light sandwich anyway? 2 pieces of bread with crust removed and no filling? Well that's just bread made to look square. Light sandwiches indeed!
And even more importantly we actually use the term restroom to refer to the "toilet area" here. I will however say that our term of water closet to refer to a small enclosed area with a toilet is odd BUT proper.
I do however love British humor which sadly to say puts me in a minority around my house.
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So Rick, tuna in a can is tuna fish and pieces of tuna fish are tuna?
I am not (yet) mocking but keen to understand your usage. |
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So Rick, tuna in a can is tuna fish and pieces of tuna fish are tuna?
I am not (yet) mocking but keen to understand your usage.
Tuna in a can is pieces of tuna ergo tunafish. As for my usage, I have NO use for tunafish unless it's tuna as sushi or sashimi - cooked tuna whether fish or canned is useless.
So, where did bass come into play by the way?
ps - for those of you who aren't quite as fluent in English, please take note - this is actually some friendly banter. Tim always knows when he has lost his case :) |
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So Rick, tuna in a can is tuna fish and pieces of tuna fish are tuna?
I am not (yet) mocking but keen to understand your usage.
Tuna in a can is pieces of tuna ergo tunafish. As for my usage, I have NO use for tunafish unless it's tuna as sushi or sashimi - cooked tuna whether fish or canned is useless.
So, where did bass come into play by the way?
ps - for those of you who aren't quite as fluent in English, please take note - this is actually some friendly banter. Tim always knows when he has lost his case :)
I have just had a very nice salad nicoise prepared from fresh but lightly grilled tuna and very nice it was too.
A really nice piece of raw o-toro tuna belly is one of life's greatest joys.
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lightly grilled tuna
I stand corrected, I do love grilled tuna done correctly! |
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A voice from the heathen land of California:
- It's "breakfast", "lunch", and "dinner".
- "whilst" is not used, unless pretending to be British
- My mother used to occasionally make for me a "tuna sandwich"
- I use the terms "restroom" and "bathroom" interchangeably (without regard to whether or not there is actually a "bath"). The term "WC" is not used.
- In the kitchen, I turn on the "faucet".
A couple of years ago I ran across a website that presented a series of images, saying, "what do you call this?" There were multiple choice answers. At the end, it would estimate where (in the USA only) you were from. It was amazingly accurate.
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A voice from the heathen land of California:
- It's "breakfast", "lunch", and "dinner".
- "whilst" is not used, unless pretending to be British
- My mother used to occasionally make for me a "tuna sandwich"
- I use the terms "restroom" and "bathroom" interchangeably (without regard to whether or not there is actually a "bath"). The term "WC" is not used.
- In the kitchen, I turn on the "faucet".
The above covers me fully .... Canadian english.
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A voice from the heathen land of California:
- It's "breakfast", "lunch", and "dinner".
- "whilst" is not used, unless pretending to be British
- My mother used to occasionally make for me a "tuna sandwich"
- I use the terms "restroom" and "bathroom" interchangeably (without regard to whether or not there is actually a "bath"). The term "WC" is not used.
- In the kitchen, I turn on the "faucet".
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Having breakfast, lunch and dinner while using the bathroom (Ed: ?) would have you save for your accent marked down as English middle class. None of restroom, WC or faucet find a place so far as I know in British English save with those who pretend to come from the US. Faucet especially would surprise and I think some would not know what you meant. |
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So the story goes Marilyn Munroe went to visit Joe DiMaggio's family in their flat. Munroe expressed the desire to go the boy's room. Aware that the walls were thin she turned on all the faucets. By repute Rosalia DiMaggio used to describe Monroe as a nice girl but who pi55e5 like a horse. |
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As Gary stated the proper terms are in fact
Breakfast (and I do believe that term started well before the beginning of time)
Lunch - well this probably is American but is most proper
Dinner - who can argue with that?
However tea as defined as an activity is NOT done here as a rule. We have tea houses popping up so I believe some folks would like to see that practice become popular.
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As Gary stated the proper terms are in fact
Breakfast (and I do believe that term started well before the beginning of time)
Lunch - well this probably is American but is most proper
Dinner - who can argue with that?
However tea as defined as an activity is NOT done here as a rule. We have tea houses popping up so I believe some folks would like to see that practice become popular.
In my heart, and much to Erin's disgust, I still think in terms of my dinner in the middle of the day and my tea as a substantial meal early in the evening (rather than the god forsaken hour Erin's lot have supper).
As for afternoon tea in my first job there was a lady who came around with her trolley and dispensed a proper cup of really strong tea and a nice biscuit at 1100 and 1500. That always struck me as close to perfection and much better than Erin's family's thing about having some hot water and some stuff that might put off starvation until supper. At least these days they are kind enough to have bought in some proper tea leaves exclusively for me. |
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The phrase tuna fish is goofy. The first time I heard the phrase was on a REO Speedwagon album called "You can tune a piano but you cant tuna fish",...what the hell does that mean I thought to myself. But then again in Minnesota we say "hot dish" instead of casserole.
It would be dull if we all talked the same. ;)
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As for afternoon tea in my first job there was a lady who came around with her trolley and dispensed a proper cup of really strong tea and a nice biscuit at 1100 and 1500. That always struck me as close to perfection...
Ooooh that's brilliant, just what you need. There may be some confusion with non-British people, about the difference between "afternoon tea" and what we sometimes/used to call "tea" - "tea" is sometimes a word in English, for the late afternoon/evening meal. "Afternoon tea" means cakes/scones and a hot drink mid-afternoon, between meals (i.e. between lunch and dinner). Afternoon tea is usually observed either on a very special occasion, or regularly if you're an old woman with excess time on your hands. In the south of England it is often referred to as a "cream tea", not meaning that you have cream in your cup of tea, but that you'll be having jam and cream on scones as the snack with your hot drink.
Cornwall and Devon - the most south-westerly counties in Britain - disagree viciously about "Tea and scones". One county puts the cream on the scone, then the jam, and the other does the reverse. Wars have nearly broken out because of this.
A similar thing hangs over the creation of a Cornish Pasty (not pastry), specifically whether it is "crimped" vertically or horizontally. In fact, the argument there is probably more vicious and intense:
On 20 July 2011, after a nine-year campaign by the Cornish Pasty Association – the trade organisation of about 50 pasty makers based in Cornwall – the name "Cornish pasty" was awarded Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status by the European Commission. According to the PGI status, a Cornish pasty should be shaped like a ‘D’ and crimped on one side, not on the top. Its ingredients should include beef, swede (called turnip in Cornwall), potato and onion, with a light seasoning of salt and pepper, keeping a chunky texture. The pastry should be golden and retain its shape when cooked and cooled. The PGI status also means that Cornish pasties must be prepared in Cornwall. They do not have to be baked in Cornwall, nor do the ingredients have to come from the county, though the Cornish Pasty Association (CPA) noted that there are strong links between pasty production and local suppliers of the ingredients. Packaging for pasties that conform to the requirements include an authentication stamp, the use of which is policed by the CPA.
Producers outside Cornwall objected to the PGI award, with one saying "[EU bureaucrats could] go to hell", and another that it was "protectionism for some big pasty companies to churn out a pastiche of the real iconic product". Major UK supermarkets Asda and Morrisons both stated they would be affected by the change, as did nationwide bakery chain Greggs, though Greggs was one of seven companies allowed to continue to use the name "Cornish pasty" during a three-year transitional period.
Members of the CPA made about 87 million pasties in 2008, amounting to sales of £60 million (about 6% of the food economy of Cornwall). In 2011, over 1,800 permanent staff were employed by members of the CPA and some 13,000 other jobs benefited from the trade. Surveys by the South West tourism board have shown that one of the top three reasons people visit Cornwall is the food and that the Cornish pasty is the food most associated with Cornwall.
Michael Ball, a Cornish-born businessman who is chief executive of WMC Retail Partners, Oxfordshire, is planning to establish a Cornish pasty museum at Cornish Market World near St Austell. He hopes to collect pasty-making artifacts and memorabilia for the museum. |
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I was born and raised in Plymouth, so pasties are in my blood, as well as copious amounts of sea salt and various other unmentionables. Plymouth is in Devon. Devon is not Cornwall, but it is a short trip across a bridge or one of two ferries to get there from Plymouth.
My favourite pastie is an Ivor Dewdney, who have run a store in Plymouth city centre for as long as I can remember, and I've been around long enough!
Those wishing to try the pastie experience may see packaged ones from Ginsters around often. I really do not recommend those. Pastry is all wrong... I went to school with the son of the family who gave name to that company, no idea if they're still involved or sold on since then. |
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I was born and raised in Plymouth, so pasties are in my blood, as well as copious amounts of sea salt and various other unmentionables. Plymouth is in Devon. Devon is not Cornwall, but it is a short trip across a bridge or one of two ferries to get there from Plymouth.
My favourite pastie is an Ivor Dewdney, who have run a store in Plymouth city centre for as long as I can remember, and I've been around long enough!
Were you now? A lot of my family worked in the dockyard over the last 150 years and lived in Devonport and Torpoint. A good number of the others were hard rock miners up on the moors.
I have always been led to believe that the seam should be on the top.
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I'm a northerner now, well, just north of the M4 in sunny Swindon. Sunny isn't the correct term, but you can think of alternative words beginning with S which may fit better. I do regard the M4 as the north/south divide, which is me mellowing out a bit with age. I used to think the north started at Exeter.
As for the crimp, there is the old story about how miners supposedly ate them with dirty hands. The side crimp would be more practical to hold and throw away, keeping the rest clean. As far as the side or top crimp argument goes, I don't care as long as the pastry and filling are nice. |
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My mother (who comes from the English north west) used to ask an aunt of mine who made especially good pasties what the ingredients were. They eventually worked out that turnip meant something different to the pair of them but they got stuck on the right kind of meat. My aunt said that she went down to the butchers and got some pasty meat which didn't work terribly well at the butchers on the east coast not far from gazzikins where I grew up. |
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I am just about to make this thread unsticky. I only created it on account of not being able to find the Squeak thread but I have been able to do so for some time. So far as I am concerned one should post on either thread but possibly this thread is more apposite than the other for celebrating differences in language and culture. |
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I actually like having an open thread to post random and rambling stuff. So, I don't care either way but one of the 2 threads will get stuck or we could just create a new one.
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Sheesh. Democracy in AtP? What is the world coming to? The smack and indeed thwack of firm government is needed.
I strongly agree that one of the many merits of AtP is that we feel unhindered in wandering off-piste (I do understand that some members are piste but I hope none piste off).
I am inclined to the view that so long as people post to threads they'll remain current so there is no need to make them sticky.
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Slight change of topic... if any of you is able to make it to London in mid/late August, you could join me for a Pasty (or maybe Jellied Eels would be more appropriate to the location). I created a thread in the main forum.
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Slight change of topic... if any of you is able to make it to London in mid/late August, you could join me for a Pasty (or maybe Jellied Eels would be more appropriate to the location). I created a thread in the main forum.
- Iain
Man I'd love to make it but I apparently lost my jet somewhere.
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Sheesh. Democracy in AtP? What is the world coming to? The smack and indeed thwack of firm government is needed.
I strongly agree that one of the many merits of AtP is that we feel unhindered in wandering off-piste (I do understand that some members are piste but I hope none piste off).
I am inclined to the view that so long as people post to threads they'll remain current so there is no need to make them sticky.
If we make one sticky we should make both sticky.
Just to declare my position: I have no preference, whatever. This thread has been more interesting recently, though, with the trans-Atlantic talk.
British plugs are a 3-pin affar, the 3rd (top) one not only serves to earth the connection, but it's longer than the live and neutral pins, which is actually a safety feature because that long earth-pin "activates" the other two - i.e. you can't just poke bits of metal into the dangerous two and electrocute yourself. You'd have to know how the mechanism worked and deliberately poke something long into the top one of the three, before then planning your own electrocution. So in a way, the "safety" devices you can buy to put in the sockets to protect your children and their small fingers actually make it much more dangerous, becaus they are very thin and flimsy, and easily poke into the top "activator" hole, enabling the other two lethal ones.
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How does a dimmer switch work? I'm going to unscrew mine now and see how it's wired.
One quick and dirty dimmer uses only ...
1 DIAC
1 TRIAC
1 Capcitor
1 Variable Resistor
Specific component values would depend on total controllable wattage desired and input voltage 120 or 220.
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Totally different subject but here at work we have several pc's that we are going to upgrade to windows 10. I started 2 of them going and so far neither of them have even gotten to the start of the download. I figure 100's of thousands of folks are doing the same thing.
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Grab a spare USB stick and use MS' install media creation tool. Download once, install many.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10
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Grab a spare USB stick and use MS' install media creation tool. Download once, install many.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10
I have done the same thing. Alternatively, install once onto a hard disk and then clone onto additional disks. Western Digital has a free copy of Acronis Software on their website and which is excellent for disk cloning (boot sector, OS, files etc).
Before I forget, if you need help activating the Win 10 software, look for KMSpico.
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well before I create the silly usb stuff I am going to try the upgrade path. so on the 2 systems I started the mediacreation program chose upgrade and let it rip. Both got exactly 79% downloaded and then stopped on the progress.. we'll see gonna let it run over night.. microsoft - kick them in the nutts. |
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well before I create the silly usb stuff I am going to try the upgrade path. so on the 2 systems I started the mediacreation program chose upgrade and let it rip. Both got exactly 79% downloaded and then stopped on the progress.. we'll see gonna let it run over night.. microsoft - kick them in the nutts.
I live and die with my installation USB flash drive. It makes things super easy and, as noted, allows for mmmany installations. I think one needs a minimum 8 Gb of available space on the flash drive.
If you are doing a direct upgrade from the nuisance pop-up window, you will be in for a huge and unpleasant surprise if you decide to roll back to the earlier version of Win (it will not recognize your existing software product key after you roll back). Also, do not be surprised if pieces of software disappear on you following the upgrade (I lost my mail reader - Mozilla Thunderbird - and some purchased software for exoplanet photometry amongst others). |
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How does a dimmer switch work? I'm going to unscrew mine now and see how it's wired.
One quick and dirty dimmer uses only ...
1 DIAC
1 TRIAC
1 Capcitor
1 Variable Resistor
Specific component values would depend on total controllable wattage desired and input voltage 120 or 220.
Easy Peasy
I assume you are correct.
For closure, I attach the following:
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British plugs are a 3-pin affar, the 3rd (top) one not only serves to earth the connection, but it's longer than the live and neutral pins, which is actually a safety feature because that long earth-pin "activates" the other two - i.e. you can't just poke bits of metal into the dangerous two and electrocute yourself.
And hence as I say to Erin anyone who asserts childbirth is painful has clearly never trodden barefoot in the dark on a British plug. Usually while I am hopping around on one leg saying bad words. |
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Slight change of topic... if any of you is able to make it to London in mid/late August, you could join me for a Pasty (or maybe Jellied Eels would be more appropriate to the location). I created a thread in the main forum.
- Iain
I am around fairly generally. I think you have my email address. If not Rick or Gary certainly do and could pass it on. If you care for a nutritious plate of pie, mash, eel and liquor I'd suggest here http://www.goddardsatgreenwich.co.uk/about-pie-mash/ . Gary kept walking when I suggested it. Other than that if you let me know whereabouts you are going to be I can suggest some other places. |
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I am around fairly generally. I think you have my email address. If not Rick or Gary certainly do and could pass it on. If you care for a nutritious plate of pie, mash, eel and liquor I'd suggest here http://www.goddardsatgreenwich.co.uk/about-pie-mash/ . Gary kept walking when I suggested it. Other than that if you let me know whereabouts you are going to be I can suggest some other places.
Like Gary, I'll give the eels a pass. Will be in touch though. I'm going to be based at King's College (Strand) and staying in KCL accommodation at Great Dover Street, South of the river.
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If you are staying in Gt Dover St then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_George_Inn,_Southwark is handy and very interesting. By KCL I usually think of the Lyceum Tavern https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186338-d3372595-Reviews-Lyceum_Tavern-London_England.html . I think we met there one time. Each is more convenient than the other for me. |
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It'd be nice to come along to something myself as London is potentially only £10 away but I can't make these particular two weekdays. If we could do something more in the daytime at some point. |
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It'd be nice to come along to something myself as London is potentially only £10 away but I can't make these particular two weekdays. If we could do something more in the daytime at some point.
I am usually around Dave especially when it is school term time and hence Erin is working. It'd be good to meet up. |
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The Revenant Rat introduced me to a couple of fine public houses. One of which, is inside a stone circle. One was a particularly beautiful, cozy room. He also advised to avoid at all cost a pub called (I think) the "Shakespeare" which is directly across from a rail station. I believe his words were, "Worst pub in London. Do not go there". I heeded this advice.
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