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Message 91502 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 22:29:02 UTC

I remember seeing about 200+ hours estimated for SOB tasks. I go to the task subtype selection menu now, and I see 2912 hours estimated for SOB. This isn't accurate is it?

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Message 91505 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 23:09:07 UTC - in response to Message 91502.

I remember seeing about 200+ hours estimated for SOB tasks. I go to the task subtype selection menu now, and I see 2912 hours estimated for SOB. This isn't accurate is it?


That's a really, really good question.

The average CPU time for all validated SoB tasks currently in the database is 1605 hours. For those same tasks, the average elapsed time is a very reasonable 320 hours. (Those numbers differ somewhat from what you see on that webpage because that page is showing the average of the most recent 1000 tasks.)

Something's odd there, and I don't know what it is. There was a new BOINC client released recently, so perhaps that's related. On the other hand, only SoB is affected, so it's probably not the new BOINC client.

The new charts that went recently show elapsed time rather than cpu time, and therefore show a more reasonable time for SoB.

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Message 91506 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 23:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 91502.

I remember seeing about 200+ hours estimated for SOB tasks. I go to the task subtype selection menu now, and I see 2912 hours estimated for SOB. This isn't accurate is it?

My last one took 117 hours (fast FMA3) so it much be usual Boinc estimation inaccuracy or something else is eating your CPU cycles.

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,480,830)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,761,853)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,600,055)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,659,159)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,073,999)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,468,468)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,647,423)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,839,538)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,688,853)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,137,231)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,099,498)321 Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,834,160)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,647,915)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,373,349)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (502,060,116)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,080,038)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,803,337)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,108,285)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (473,192,294)WW Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (500,196,000)PSA Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,863,027,834)
Message 91507 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 23:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 91506.

I remember seeing about 200+ hours estimated for SOB tasks. I go to the task subtype selection menu now, and I see 2912 hours estimated for SOB. This isn't accurate is it?

My last one took 117 hours (fast FMA3) so it much be usual Boinc estimation inaccuracy or something else is eating your CPU cycles.


I wasn't actually running a SOB task. I was on the web page for selecting PG task subtypes, and I saw 2912 hours listed for SOB tasks.

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Message 91509 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 23:23:43 UTC

Found out what's going on. There's a single SoB result with a ridiculously large cpu time of about 2.5 million hours. It's obviously inaccurate, for whatever reason, but that one task is throwing the whole average off.

Not sure yet if I'll tweak it, or just let it eventually get purged from the system in the normal course of events. I'll probably fix it, but it needs more thought first.
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Discovered the World's First base 25 Generalized Cullen prime!!!Discovered the World's First base 73 Generalized Cullen prime!!!Discovered 68 mega primesEliminated 2 conjecture "k"sDiscovered 2 AP26sDiscovered 1 twin primeDiscovered 1 Fermat divisor2017 Tour de Primes highest prime count2017 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2018 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primesFound 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes2020 Tour de Primes largest primeFound 3 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 mega primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes2021 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primesFound 9 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 6 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 3 primes in the 2021 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 mega prime  in the 2021 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage2022 Tour de Primes highest prime count2022 Tour de Primes highest prime scoreFound 37 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 12 mega primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (222,064,985)Cullen LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (268,853,479)ESP LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (205,475,046)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (230,726,473)PPS LLR Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (842,956,219)PSP LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (213,474,668)SoB LLR Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (502,781,170)SR5 LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (219,646,841)SGS LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (226,766,636)TRP LLR Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (774,517,756)Woodall LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (216,174,567)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (134,986,204)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,879,764)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,428,955)PPS Sieve Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (5,158,493,597)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,857,516)TRP Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,936,081)AP 26/27 Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,508,956,424)GFN Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (8,628,151,300)WW Double Jade: Earned 10,000,000,000 credits (16,390,276,000)PSA Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (6,244,536,362)
Message 91510 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 23:28:30 UTC - in response to Message 91509.

Found out what's going on. There's a single SoB result with a ridiculously large cpu time of about 2.5 million hours. It's obviously inaccurate, for whatever reason, but that one task is throwing the whole average off.

Not sure yet if I'll tweak it, or just let it eventually get purged from the system in the normal course of events. I'll probably fix it, but it needs more thought first.


I've seen a ridiculously high estimated time for SoB before, and it corrected itself -- maybe one system is reporting absurd times?
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Message 91511 - Posted: 23 Jan 2016 | 23:33:13 UTC

It's fixed now, but if it happens again I'll need to make those statistics a little smarter and filter out results like that.
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