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Message 72330 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 14:14:18 UTC

I am running four GFN524288 WUs on my quad core. Why is the output produced by genefx64 in one instance window different from those in the other three?

[2014-01-17 14:33:01 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 14:33:01 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxx@xxx [2014-01-17 14:33:02 MZ] GFN524288: Getting work from server prpnet.primegrid.co m at port 11001 [2014-01-17 14:33:03 MZ] GFN524288: PRPNet server is version 5.2.8 Hi! Welcome to PrimeGrid's GFN 524288 Prime Search. genefx64 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86_64 SSE2) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefx64.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 14:33:03 Testing 783946^524288+1... Starting initialization... Initialization complete (188.199 seconds). Estimated total run time for 783946^524288+1 is 90:44:57 Testing 783946^524288+1... 10223616 steps to go (90:22:36 remaining)


[2014-01-17 14:33:01 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 14:33:01 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxx@xxx [2014-01-17 14:33:02 MZ] GFN524288: Getting work from server prpnet.primegrid.co m at port 11001 [2014-01-17 14:33:03 MZ] GFN524288: PRPNet server is version 5.2.8 Hi! Welcome to PrimeGrid's GFN 524288 Prime Search. genefx64 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86_64 SSE2) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefx64.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 14:33:03 Testing 783944^524288+1... Starting initialization... Initialization complete (179.993 seconds). Estimated total run time for 783944^524288+1 is 96:58:38 maxErr exceeded for 783944^524288+1, 0.5000 > 0.45006:48:40 remaining) PRP: 783944^524288+1 2500/10265764


[2014-01-17 14:33:02 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 14:33:02 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxx@xxx [2014-01-17 14:33:03 MZ] GFN524288: Getting work from server prpnet.primegrid.co m at port 11001 [2014-01-17 14:33:04 MZ] GFN524288: PRPNet server is version 5.2.8 Hi! Welcome to PrimeGrid's GFN 524288 Prime Search. genefx64 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86_64 SSE2) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefx64.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 14:33:04 Testing 783954^524288+1... Starting initialization... Initialization complete (180.195 seconds). Estimated total run time for 783954^524288+1 is 92:47:48 Testing 783954^524288+1... 10223616 steps to go (92:24:56 remaining)


[2014-01-17 14:33:01 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 14:33:01 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxx@xxx [2014-01-17 14:33:02 MZ] GFN524288: Getting work from server prpnet.primegrid.co m at port 11001 [2014-01-17 14:33:04 MZ] GFN524288: PRPNet server is version 5.2.8 Hi! Welcome to PrimeGrid's GFN 524288 Prime Search. genefx64 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86_64 SSE2) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefx64.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 14:33:04 Testing 783948^524288+1... Starting initialization... Initialization complete (179.260 seconds). Estimated total run time for 783948^524288+1 is 90:53:00 Testing 783948^524288+1... 10223616 steps to go (90:30:36 remaining)


As you can see, the second instance says maxErr exceeded for 783944^524288+1. Also, the output in the last line is different from the other three instances (the XYZ steps to go stuff is missing). Is there a problem with this instance?

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Message 72331 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 14:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 72330.
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If you remember, we ran GFN524288 on BOINC until we got close to the B limit, then switched it back to PRPNet.

What you're seeing is what's supposed to happen: genefx64 is detecting that the precision of its calculation dropped below acceptable levels on that test, and it stopped the calculation.

If you have genefer and genefer80 enabled on your computer, PRPNet will automatically switch to using genefer, and if that also fails, genefer80 to run the test.

If you don't have them enabled in prpclient.ini, the the task fails when that error occurs.

The boundary is sort of fuzzy, so some tests will fail and some will succeed, although the percentage of tests that fail will increase as b increases.

If you want to process those tasks with the (much) slower genefer80, you should enable that in prpclient.ini. Otherwise, it's either time to stop crunching 524288, or only crunch it on a GPU (GeneferCUDA has a substantially higher B limit for n=524288 than does genefx64). We pulled 524288 off of BOINC because we were approaching the B limit for the CPU tasks. There was a ways to go on the GPU.

EDIT: Genefer's limit is even lower, so that's not an option. Either genefer80 or GenerCUDA is needed to process that number.
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Message 72333 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 14:42:02 UTC

To add to Mike's answer...

It may be not long before we release Genefer 3.2.0, which is more users friendly to deal with such situations.
On the other hand, you can experience similar on GFN262144.
See Genefer 3.2.0 testing thread for more.

You may even see my experience with situation where restarting a test which transitioned to slower methods that would continue using fastest AVX - saving a lot of time and still be valid.
I wouldn't be much surprices running the same test on the very same CPU using only single core and doing just fine without maxErr...because of CPU cache etc.

Once you get close to maxErr limits, strange things start happening.


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Message 72335 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 14:52:56 UTC

I switched to using geneferCUDA. However, there seems to be a problem. After executing the 4-quad-start script, PRPNet displays the following:

cuda_subs.cu(156): cudaSafeCall() Runtime API error: CUDA driver version is insufficient for CUDA runtime version


then the window closes. Does this mean I need to install a new driver?


Another question: Can I even run geneferCUDA at all? My GPU is an ATI card.

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Message 72336 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 15:09:08 UTC

When I use genefer80, three of the instances crash immediately.

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Message 72337 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 15:25:25 UTC
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Hi Toshio,

The line

PRP: 783944^524288+1 2500/10265764


comes from PFGW, which is the 'last attempt' if genefer fails to be able to test the given candidate.

I don't see why genefer80 should crash in these circumstance - if you can post the output when that occurs it would be very helpful.

I'd also recommend upgrading to the 3.2.0 app at this point (see this thread that Honza mentioned. You only need to put a single 'genefer' app in your prpclient.ini and it will use the most appropriate transform for any given candidate. Genefer 2.3.0 is pretty old now and I can't remember off-hand how much stuff has been fixed/improved since then.

Also, it's probably worth upgrading your prpclient installation to 5.2.8, which contains some bug-fixes and support for geneferocl, which you will need if you want to use your ATI card.

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Message 72338 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 15:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 72337.

I don't see why genefer80 should crash in these circumstance - if you can post the output when that occurs it would be very helpful.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?

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Message 72339 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 15:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 72338.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).
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Message 72344 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 15:58:42 UTC - in response to Message 72339.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).

.....\prpclient-5.2.4-windows\prpclient-4>prpclient.exe [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxxx@xxxx genefer80 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86 80-bit x87) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefer80.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 16:55:49 Testing 783948^524288+1... Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it. [2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?

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Message 72349 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 16:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 72344.

Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it.
[2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?
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This is one of the reasons why to upgrade to Genefer 3.2.0, which is all-in-one-versions Genefer so we don't need to deal with checkpoints made by different Genfer version, tweaking PRPNet Client/Server settings etc.
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Message 72352 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 16:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 72349.

Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it.
[2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?
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This is one of the reasons why to upgrade to Genefer 3.2.0, which is all-in-one-versions Genefer so we don't need to deal with checkpoints made by different Genfer version, tweaking PRPNet Client/Server settings etc.


I am about to put GPUs back on PRPnet following the challenge. I don't run the larger GFN on CPUs there ever. Does Genefer 3.2.0 allow for this (i.e., running only on GPU and not using CPU GFN apps)?

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Message 72355 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 17:37:31 UTC - in response to Message 72333.

I wouldn't be much surprices running the same test on the very same CPU using only single core and doing just fine without maxErr...because of CPU cache etc.


That would surprise me very much.
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Message 72356 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 17:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 72335.


Another question: Can I even run geneferCUDA at all? My GPU is an ATI card.


No, it only runs on Nvidia.

If PRPNet can run GeneferOCL, that's what you need to run to use your ATI GPU.

When I use genefer80, three of the instances crash immediately.


This is on Windows, right? On Windows, I don't know why genefer80 would fail. I think genefer80 is a 32 bit app, so on linux it could fail if you have a 64 bit install of linux and have not manually installed the 32 bit libraries.

On the other hand, if 3 instances are failing and one is working, that's very strange.


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Message 72363 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 20:24:06 UTC - in response to Message 72344.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).

.....\prpclient-5.2.4-windows\prpclient-4>prpclient.exe [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxxx@xxxx genefer80 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86 80-bit x87) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefer80.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 16:55:49 Testing 783948^524288+1... Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it. [2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?


Hi Toshio,

I assume you have removed genefx64.exe from the prpclient.ini and added genefer80.exe instead? In this case, because there is an existing checkpoint, the client refuses to run (since to do so would overwrite the checkpoint, and lose all your work). However, if you define both genefx64 and genefer80 in the prpclient.ini it will try with genefx64, and if that fails it should remove the checkpoint and restart with genefer80.

This is a bit from memory though, as these are quite old versions of the prpclient and the genefer binaries.

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Message 72364 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 20:26:49 UTC - in response to Message 72352.



I am about to put GPUs back on PRPnet following the challenge. I don't run the larger GFN on CPUs there ever. Does Genefer 3.2.0 allow for this (i.e., running only on GPU and not using CPU GFN apps)?



Yes, Scott. The merged app only refers to the CPU transforms (it's now called genefer and contains AVX, SSE3, SSE2, Default and x87 transforms). If you only want to use GPU, put either the CUDA or OpenCL apps in your prpclient.ini

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Message 72365 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 20:52:24 UTC - in response to Message 72363.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).

.....\prpclient-5.2.4-windows\prpclient-4>prpclient.exe [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxxx@xxxx genefer80 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86 80-bit x87) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefer80.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 16:55:49 Testing 783948^524288+1... Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it. [2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?


Hi Toshio,

I assume you have removed genefx64.exe from the prpclient.ini and added genefer80.exe instead? In this case, because there is an existing checkpoint, the client refuses to run (since to do so would overwrite the checkpoint, and lose all your work). However, if you define both genefx64 and genefer80 in the prpclient.ini it will try with genefx64, and if that fails it should remove the checkpoint and restart with genefer80.

This is a bit from memory though, as these are quite old versions of the prpclient and the genefer binaries.

Cheers

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I uncommented both
geneferexe=genefx64.exe
and
geneferexe=genefer80.exe

Same error.
Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it.


I will test what happens if I remove the checkpoint file manually.

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Message 72366 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 21:04:03 UTC - in response to Message 72365.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).

.....\prpclient-5.2.4-windows\prpclient-4>prpclient.exe [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxxx@xxxx genefer80 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86 80-bit x87) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefer80.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 16:55:49 Testing 783948^524288+1... Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it. [2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?


Hi Toshio,

I assume you have removed genefx64.exe from the prpclient.ini and added genefer80.exe instead? In this case, because there is an existing checkpoint, the client refuses to run (since to do so would overwrite the checkpoint, and lose all your work). However, if you define both genefx64 and genefer80 in the prpclient.ini it will try with genefx64, and if that fails it should remove the checkpoint and restart with genefer80.

This is a bit from memory though, as these are quite old versions of the prpclient and the genefer binaries.

Cheers

- Iain

I uncommented both
geneferexe=genefx64.exe
and
geneferexe=genefer80.exe

Same error.
Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it.


I will test what happens if I remove the checkpoint file manually.

I manually removed genefer.ckpt, work_GFN524288.in and work_GFN524288.save from the 'programs' folder and entered prpclient.exe into the command prompt. I received work from port 11001 and started genefer80.exe.

Now my only question is, how can I start 4 instances? Note that I did use the prpclient.exe in the prpclient-4 folder.

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Message 72367 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 21:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 72366.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).

.....\prpclient-5.2.4-windows\prpclient-4>prpclient.exe [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxxx@xxxx genefer80 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86 80-bit x87) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefer80.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 16:55:49 Testing 783948^524288+1... Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it. [2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?


Hi Toshio,

I assume you have removed genefx64.exe from the prpclient.ini and added genefer80.exe instead? In this case, because there is an existing checkpoint, the client refuses to run (since to do so would overwrite the checkpoint, and lose all your work). However, if you define both genefx64 and genefer80 in the prpclient.ini it will try with genefx64, and if that fails it should remove the checkpoint and restart with genefer80.

This is a bit from memory though, as these are quite old versions of the prpclient and the genefer binaries.

Cheers

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I uncommented both
geneferexe=genefx64.exe
and
geneferexe=genefer80.exe

Same error.
Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it.


I will test what happens if I remove the checkpoint file manually.

I manually removed genefer.ckpt, work_GFN524288.in and work_GFN524288.save from the 'programs' folder and entered prpclient.exe into the command prompt. I received work from port 11001 and started genefer80.exe.

Now my only question is, how can I start 4 instances? Note that I did use the prpclient.exe in the prpclient-4 folder.


If you have 4 folders prpclient-1,2,3,4 then you need to change the prpclient.ini as followed by 1-4

instanceid=1

instanceid=2

instanceid=3

instanceid=4

Start the prpclient.exe in every folder.

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Message 72369 - Posted: 17 Jan 2014 | 21:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 72367.

How can I see that output? Since the crashing causes the PRPClient window to disappear, the output simply disappears way too quickly. Is that output logged in some file?


Start prpclient.exe from Command line (Win+R, CMD).

.....\prpclient-5.2.4-windows\prpclient-4>prpclient.exe [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] PRPNet Client application v5.2.4 started [2014-01-17 16:55:49 MZ] User name Toshio at email address is xxxx@xxxx genefer80 2.3.0-0 (Windows x86 80-bit x87) Copyright 2001-2003, Yves Gallot Copyright 2009, Mark Rodenkirch, David Underbakke Copyright 2010-2012, Shoichiro Yamada, Ken Brazier Copyright 2011-2012, Iain Bethune, Michael Goetz, Ronald Schneider Command line: genefer80.exe work_GFN524288.in Priority change succeeded. Start test of file 'work_GFN524288.in' - 16:55:49 Testing 783948^524288+1... Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it. [2014-01-17 16:55:50 MZ] GFN524288: No data in file [genefer.log]. Is genefer broken?


Hi Toshio,

I assume you have removed genefx64.exe from the prpclient.ini and added genefer80.exe instead? In this case, because there is an existing checkpoint, the client refuses to run (since to do so would overwrite the checkpoint, and lose all your work). However, if you define both genefx64 and genefer80 in the prpclient.ini it will try with genefx64, and if that fails it should remove the checkpoint and restart with genefer80.

This is a bit from memory though, as these are quite old versions of the prpclient and the genefer binaries.

Cheers

- Iain

I uncommented both
geneferexe=genefx64.exe
and
geneferexe=genefer80.exe

Same error.
Checkpoint saved by another build of genefer (19 22). This version cannot restart with it.


I will test what happens if I remove the checkpoint file manually.

I manually removed genefer.ckpt, work_GFN524288.in and work_GFN524288.save from the 'programs' folder and entered prpclient.exe into the command prompt. I received work from port 11001 and started genefer80.exe.

Now my only question is, how can I start 4 instances? Note that I did use the prpclient.exe in the prpclient-4 folder.


If you have 4 folders prpclient-1,2,3,4 then you need to change the prpclient.ini as followed by 1-4

instanceid=1

instanceid=2

instanceid=3

instanceid=4

Start the prpclient.exe in every folder.

You mean in the master_prpclient.ini, where it says

// This value differentiates instances on a machine // This will be set automatically by the *-update-prpclient-ini script // If you prefer to setup up prpclient directories manually, please // set this to a unique identifier (e.g. 1,2,3,4...)


I need to add

instanceid=1 instanceid=2 instanceid=3 instanceid=4


is that correct or am I misunderstanding this?

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is that correct or am I misunderstanding this?


Not correct, you need to have 4 folders (for 4 cores), in every folder you have the same content but you need to change the .ini file and add
instanceid=1 for folder 1
instanceid=2 for folder 2 ...

Edit:
Looks like so:

email=***

userid=***

machineid=***

instanceid=1

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is that correct or am I misunderstanding this?


Not correct, you need to have 4 folders (for 4 cores), in every folder you have the same content but you need to change the .ini file and add
instanceid=1 for folder 1
instanceid=2 for folder 2 ...

Edit:
Looks like so:

email=***

userid=***

machineid=***

instanceid=1

Did that:

After running the 4-quad scripts, the specified id are no longer there. One of the 4 instances crashed after start. The other 3 are running and they say

No instance ID specified, will use machine ID Unable to run multiple instances of the PRPNet client with id clientID.


This seems to suggest I have to set different values for the machineid= parameter in the prpclient.ini in each of the prpclient-1, -2, -3 and -4 folders?

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is that correct or am I misunderstanding this?


Not correct, you need to have 4 folders (for 4 cores), in every folder you have the same content but you need to change the .ini file and add
instanceid=1 for folder 1
instanceid=2 for folder 2 ...

Edit:
Looks like so:

email=***

userid=***

machineid=***

instanceid=1

Did that:

After running the 4-quad scripts, the specified id are no longer there. One of the 4 instances crashed after start. The other 3 are running and they say

No instance ID specified, will use machine ID Unable to run multiple instances of the PRPNet client with id clientID.


This seems to suggest I have to set different values for the machineid= parameter in the prpclient.ini in each of the prpclient-1, -2, -3 and -4 folders?


You have run an update script? That cannot be used anymore. You can create a script like "4-quad-start-prpclient.bat"

ECHO cd prpclient-1 start "prpclient-1" /MIN prpclient.exe cd ..\prpclient-2 start "prpclient-2" /MIN prpclient.exe cd ..\prpclient-3 start "prpclient-3" /MIN prpclient.exe cd ..\prpclient-4 start "prpclient-4" /MIN prpclient.exe EXIT

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is that correct or am I misunderstanding this?


Not correct, you need to have 4 folders (for 4 cores), in every folder you have the same content but you need to change the .ini file and add
instanceid=1 for folder 1
instanceid=2 for folder 2 ...

Edit:
Looks like so:

email=***

userid=***

machineid=***

instanceid=1

Did that:

After running the 4-quad scripts, the specified id are no longer there. One of the 4 instances crashed after start. The other 3 are running and they say

No instance ID specified, will use machine ID Unable to run multiple instances of the PRPNet client with id clientID.


This seems to suggest I have to set different values for the machineid= parameter in the prpclient.ini in each of the prpclient-1, -2, -3 and -4 folders?


You have run an update script? That cannot be used anymore. You can create a script like "4-quad-start-prpclient.bat"

ECHO cd prpclient-1 start "prpclient-1" /MIN prpclient.exe cd ..\prpclient-2 start "prpclient-2" /MIN prpclient.exe cd ..\prpclient-3 start "prpclient-3" /MIN prpclient.exe cd ..\prpclient-4 start "prpclient-4" /MIN prpclient.exe EXIT

I created the .bat file and this does work. I wasn't aware the update script can no longer be used. Thank you.

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