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Message boards : Project Staging Area : Combining the boinc and PSA-credits = skewed picture?

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Profile [DPC]CamulosProject donor
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Credit: 104,511,361
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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (650,015)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (820,374)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (550,246)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (607,632)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,612,815)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (539,445)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (627,950)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,023,449)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,389,355)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (523,441)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (718,450)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,084,280)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,148)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (41,708,032)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (560,644)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,336,760)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,885,067)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (357,578)
Message 69044 - Posted: 9 Sep 2013 | 19:38:02 UTC

It is widely known that PSA-projects get more credits then the boinc-counterpart projects; at least that was the case in 2011.

But looking at the bottom of primegrid homepage:
Top teams by work done in the last 24 hours
Dutch Power Cows 20507530.15 (=20M)
..(more)..
Aggie The Pew 3116659.78 (=3M)

But when I look at our stats-engine or just have a glimpse on BoincStats:
Aggie The Pew : 38,464,945.03 (38M)
Dutch Power Cows: 18,938,678.36 (18M)

No offense, but where did those 35 million credits come from? Last time I checked (during challenges and stuff), those 35 millions are in no way comparable to the Boinc-equivalent! Yet these are counted the same way, on the same stats pile.

Perhaps time to review/slash the PSA-credits?!

Current stats are bogus IMO!
Call me a charred-bovine-meat-popiscle, yet it smells somewhere :P
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Posts: 736
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Credit: 560,822,374
RAC: 26,394
Discovered 1 mega prime2012 Tour de Primes highest prime scoreFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,136,498)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,622,415)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,461,313)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,831)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,559,307)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,414,623)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,923,258)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,716,765)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,389,989)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,099,308)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,375,769)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,106,124)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,449,019)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,388,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (343,244,386)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,072,601)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,441,257)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,294,481)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,168,558)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (79,952,619)
Message 69046 - Posted: 9 Sep 2013 | 20:29:21 UTC - in response to Message 69044.

Monday is usualy the day the first batch of psa credit arr tranfered to Boinc. This might explain at least part of what you are seeing. On the other hand, stats engines Do no always match primegrid server clock, so "today" may not mean the same time frame.
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Posts: 1069
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Credit: 1,265,744,657
RAC: 279,483
Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,238,816)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,124,261)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,887,081)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,656,837)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,080,077)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (37,386,303)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,004,651)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,215,655)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,408)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,199,250)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,028,792)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,012,059)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,921,016)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (542,336,593)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,990,608)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,217,057)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,773,404)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,086,853)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (420,586,383)
Message 69049 - Posted: 9 Sep 2013 | 21:09:07 UTC

its because the person who got 35m credit for ATP has over 600 cores available to him. And PSA is given once a day, in one burst. Goes up slightly each day based on RAC
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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 12 primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,244,909)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,287,148)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,174,327)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,028,260)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (55,041,796)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,151,448)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,268)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,871,275)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,860,522)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,130,742)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,036,418)321 Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,538,236)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (127,922,665)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,984,158)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,840,173,136)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,134,964)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,013,696)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (276,723,135)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (274,410,219)PSA Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,370,700,486)
Message 69055 - Posted: 10 Sep 2013 | 1:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 69044.

It is widely known that PSA-projects get more credits then the boinc-counterpart projects; at least that was the case in 2011.

But looking at the bottom of primegrid homepage:
Top teams by work done in the last 24 hours
Dutch Power Cows 20507530.15 (=20M)
..(more)..
Aggie The Pew 3116659.78 (=3M)

But when I look at our stats-engine or just have a glimpse on BoincStats:
Aggie The Pew : 38,464,945.03 (38M)
Dutch Power Cows: 18,938,678.36 (18M)

No offense, but where did those 35 million credits come from? Last time I checked (during challenges and stuff), those 35 millions are in no way comparable to the Boinc-equivalent! Yet these are counted the same way, on the same stats pile.

Perhaps time to review/slash the PSA-credits?!

Current stats are bogus IMO!
Call me a charred-bovine-meat-popiscle, yet it smells somewhere :P


Hmm I smell sour milk and bad cheese.

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