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I'm wondering if manual Boinc credits are are given, for all the PSA projects at the same time? The reason I ask. I noticed that quite a number of folks received PSA credit within the last day. It's been a few weeks since I've received any. I'm crunching GFN262144:0:1:prpnet.mine.nu:11002
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I'm wondering if manual Boinc credits are are given, for all the PSA projects at the same time? The reason I ask. I noticed that quite a number of folks received PSA credit within the last day. It's been a few weeks since I've received any. I'm crunching GFN262144:0:1:prpnet.mine.nu:11002
Thanks!
Agent GleanerC /out
As far as I know:
a) PRP net credit is converted to boinc credit in bunches, according to your RAC. You can get it all at once or a little bit everyday for a few days. The number of days varies from one to 7 or more, according to the number of prpet credit to be granted as boinc credit and your RAC.
However, the first day is the same to everyone running prpnet projects (it is the day admins manually do the conversion of credits)
b) PSA credit includes other projects than those running under prpnet, namely some sieving work (GFN sieve, wwwsieve and others). Credit for this other apps or projects is (os has been) granted independently of prpnet credit.
So, all projects running under prpnet get boinc credit at the same time. But other PSA projects that are not running under prpnet can get credit on different dates.
Looking to credit DB does not allow you to know which project a given credit bunch came from.
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Michael Goetz Volunteer moderator Project administrator
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Joined: 21 Jan 10 Posts: 14011 ID: 53948 Credit: 433,209,141 RAC: 977,735
                               
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I'm wondering if manual Boinc credits are are given, for all the PSA projects at the same time? The reason I ask. I noticed that quite a number of folks received PSA credit within the last day. It's been a few weeks since I've received any. I'm crunching GFN262144:0:1:prpnet.mine.nu:11002
Thanks!
Agent GleanerC /out
Being as I'm the one who does it, I can give you a definitive answer to you: yes.
The manual sieve credits are done separately than the PRPNet credits, but I usually do them all on the same day. This was done most recently over the weekend, either Saturday or Sunday. Note that I don't always have time, so it's not unusual for a week to be skipped. But usually credit should be granted every week or two.
Please send me a PM with the information you used to configure your PRPNet client, in particular the username and the email address. I can use that information to check and see what's what.
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Thanks for the replies! PM sent. :)
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Michael Goetz Volunteer moderator Project administrator
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Joined: 21 Jan 10 Posts: 14011 ID: 53948 Credit: 433,209,141 RAC: 977,735
                               
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I replied to you via PM, but I'll repeat the essence of that reply here because it might be of interest to others.
The credit process is a little bit convoluted, and goes a bit like this:
* PRPNet server for the port you are crunching creates a WU and sends it to your computer.
* Your computer crunches the WU and returns the result to the PRPNet server
* The PRPNet server does whatever kind of validation it does, and adds an appropriate number of points into its database for the account name and email address you used.
* On a periodic basis, the PRPNet server dumps its user table into a publicly readable file that can be used by third party statistics sites.
* On a periodic basis, the computers run by Sysadm@Nbg read that file (and lots more like it from the other ports), and incorporates those statistics onto his website.
* On a periodic basis, roughly once a week as time permits, I go to that website and pull all the cumulative PRPNet statistics into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet is used to calculate, for every user, how many credits have been earned since the last update. I then feed those into the BOINC server.
Depending on the timing of those three tasks that get performed periodically, it's possible for there to be a substantial delay. For example, if a port is down, then its stats file won't be written, or won't be read, or whatever, and it may take an extra week for stats from that port to make it all the way through the process and show up in your BOINC PSA totals.
BTW, by far, the most time consuming portion of what I do is to figure out what BOINC account to use for first time PSA participants. It's not sufficient to just match usernames because there are many username duplicates in the BOINC database, so I do the match on email addresses. So make sure your email address is correct in your PRPNet configuration!
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PSA credit arrived.
One of the things I learned here, according to what computer has communicated with what other computer and so fourth, is that everyone may not get Boinc PSA credit on the same credit run. That's alright, and with a little patience, my credit came in just as it was supposed to.
Thanks again Mike for your help. :)
Happy Crunching Everyone!
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