Current version 0.4

Minimum specification to run version 0.4:
-catalyst 9.2+ drivers (recommended 9.12 HotFix)
- Microsoft Windows (app works on x86 & x64)
- Graphic card Radeon series : HD2k HD3k HD4k HD5k (recommended series: HD 4000 or higher)

Link to current version: http://www.sesef.pl/AP/AP04.zip

During calculation it should appear file SOL-AP26.TXT with APs.

11 366384 6998839830228583
10 366384 785468127438811
25 366384 6171054912832631
10 366384 1459178643530617
10 366384 9735298495263823
10 366384 1727805601738891
10 366384 1574579779396307
10 366384 2138118918508471
11 366384 3007107694524497
10 366384 1255892682660361
11 366384 7036595108074969
10 366384 8188609810134857
10 366384 2411963918614357
10 366384 13700995611657901
14 366384 15879407069784169
11 366384 6250872237076277
10 366384 11977568522771779
10 366384 1540799946122147
12 366384 14782924219657043
11 366384 2003229604981763
10 366384 14531182366753699
13 366384 15731878523384263
13 366384 2167218735183577

Win 7 64 bit
HD5750
9.12
Core I7 860

File matches
About 80-85% GPU load.
Runtime about 3.15 on loaded machine.

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Works on HD 4770.
an't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.467
Found: 1 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4700/4800 (RV740/RV770) 512 MB local ram (remote 2047 MB cached + 2047 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 830 MHz, memory clock: 850 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 1062400 Double precision FLOPS: 212480 (GPU supporting double precision)

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 0.845721 Total time: 82.415147
called boinc_finish
Ap 26.txt file matches.
win 7X64 phenom II 955 HD 4770 . GPU usage only 80% during the test..

Good work!! Jack

Win7 64bit Ultimate Q9450@3,2, Sapphire 5850 1GB, 4GB RAM

Win 7 Home Premium x64 on Core2 Duo T6600, HD4570 512 MB (CAT 9.12), 4GB RAM

Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.515
Found: 1 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4350/4550 (R710) 512 MB local ram (remote 1853 MB cached + 1853 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 680 MHz, memory clock: 500 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 217600

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 0.024774 Total time: 603.513976
called boinc_finish

I have a few ATI cards.. but have not tested them with this app.

Something to consider, have you ran the program with app_info.xml under BOINC with a fully loaded CPU?

Also, How much CPU % is required to feed the GPU?

The CUDA app required major changes to get it to even run with low CPU usage in Windows, but only while launced by BOINC. Standalone testing was fine.

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New version with checkpoints and some speed improvements.

Link to current version: http://www.sesef.pl/AP/AP045.zip

Also, How much CPU % is required to feed the GPU?

Win7 64bit Ultimate Q9450@3,2, Sapphire 5850 1GB, 4GB RAM (new app, without running BOINC)

11 366384 6998839830228583
10 366384 785468127438811
25 366384 6171054912832631
10 366384 1459178643530617
10 366384 9735298495263823
10 366384 1727805601738891
10 366384 2138118918508471
11 366384 3007107694524497
10 366384 1255892682660361
11 366384 7036595108074969
10 366384 8188609810134857
10 366384 2411963918614357
10 366384 13700995611657901
14 366384 15879407069784169
11 366384 6250872237076277
10 366384 11977568522771779
10 366384 1540799946122147
12 366384 14782924219657043
13 366384 2167218735183577

I forgot to post correct version SOL-AP26.TXT

11 366384 6998839830228583
10 366384 785468127438811
25 366384 6171054912832631
10 366384 1459178643530617
10 366384 9735298495263823
10 366384 1727805601738891
10 366384 2138118918508471
11 366384 3007107694524497
10 366384 1255892682660361
11 366384 7036595108074969
10 366384 8188609810134857
10 366384 2411963918614357
10 366384 13700995611657901
14 366384 15879407069784169
11 366384 6250872237076277
10 366384 11977568522771779
10 366384 1540799946122147
12 366384 14782924219657043
13 366384 2167218735183577

Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4.5 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

Cannot read AP26-ini.txt !!!
called boinc_finish
Can't set up shared mem: -1
Will run in standalone mode.
AP26 Search 0.4.5 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.467
Found: 1 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4700/4800 (RV740/RV770) 512 MB local ram (remote 2047 MB cached + 2047 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 830 MHz, memory clock: 850 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 1062400 Double precision FLOPS: 212480 (GPU supporting double precision)

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 0.023820 [K=366384]
Total time: 68.761848
called boinc_finish
The results match..

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http://stats.free-dc.org/cpidtagb.php?cpid=f8f5fddb02aba8e69218c01a64840e3a&theme=8&cols=1

Xeon W3520 @ 2.27GHz, HD 5870 @ 970MHz core, 1300MHz memory:

Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4.5 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.467
Found: 1 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD5800 series (Cypress) 1024 MB local ram (remote 1855 MB cached + 1855 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 970 MHz, memory clock: 1300 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 3104000 Double precision FLOPS: 620800 (GPU supporting double precision)

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 17.914251 [K=366384]
Total time: 76.468160
called boinc_finish


Xeon W3520 @ 2.27GHz, HD 5870 @ 500Mhz core, 500MHz memory:

Can't set up shared mem: -1
Will run in standalone mode.
AP26 Search 0.4.5 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.467
Found: 1 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD5800 series (Cypress) 1024 MB local ram (remote 1855 MB cached + 1855 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 500 MHz, memory clock: 500 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 1600000 Double precision FLOPS: 320000 (GPU supporting double precision)

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 0.028708 [K=366384]
Total time: 78.918420
called boinc_finish

Works on my ATI Radeon HD 3600 series with Catalyst v9.3.

Only issue is that stderr.txt says its a 2600 series for some reason.

How's the progress on this? Will there be a regular ATI application anytime soon, that we can use to crunch AP26?

Looking forward t0 a linux version also!

Newest version http://www.sesef.pl/AP/AP26PGx86-461.zip

With BOINC support and app_info.xml

Results for Radeon 2k, 3k, 4k, 57xx, 56xx, 55xx, 54xx, series

11 366384 6998839830228583
10 366384 785468127438811
25 366384 6171054912832631
10 366384 1459178643530617
10 366384 9735298495263823
10 366384 1727805601738891
10 366384 2138118918508471
11 366384 3007107694524497
10 366384 1255892682660361
11 366384 7036595108074969
10 366384 8188609810134857
10 366384 2411963918614357
10 366384 13700995611657901
14 366384 15879407069784169
11 366384 6250872237076277
10 366384 11977568522771779
10 366384 1540799946122147
12 366384 14782924219657043
13 366384 2167218735183577

11 366384 6998839830228583
10 366384 785468127438811
25 366384 6171054912832631
10 366384 9735298495263823
10 366384 1727805601738891
10 366384 2138118918508471
11 366384 3007107694524497
10 366384 1255892682660361
11 366384 7036595108074969
10 366384 8188609810134857
10 366384 2411963918614357
10 366384 13700995611657901
14 366384 15879407069784169
10 366384 1540799946122147
13 366384 2167218735183577

I have installed it and it works.
Here're wu done: http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=126836
(all pending validation now)

wu are validating well.
I've just put ncpus 1.00 in app_info and %GPU Load went from 50% to 85%.
CPU core is fully used so it's not wasted and times seem really better now!
I have a powerful cpu (Q9550@3,40 GHz) so I think that it's still CPU bound, but in any case I think that setting 1 full core is better because doing so the app is not stealing cpu cycles to any projects without asking

it works, now it's been some days without any problem.

I put 1 full core dedicated in app_info.xml and so times are good!
Does anyone other use this app?

Newest version http://www.sesef.pl/AP/AP26PGx86-461.zip

With BOINC support and app_info.xml

Newest version http://www.sesef.pl/AP/AP26PGx86-461.zip
With BOINC support and app_info.xml

In the app info:
<max_ncpus>0.2/max_ncpus>
should be:
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>

Tried it this morning, seems to work OK with multiple ATI cards as well. Running 2 WU's at a time on a pair of Radeon 4870's - configured to use 1 CPU and 1 GPU each. Completed and validated in my results list.

Unfortunately I lost 2 days worth of SoB work in the process, so just a word of warning - complete your current tasks before testing this in BOINC. :)

Win 7 64 bit
HD5770
10.1
Core I7 920

Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.467
Found: 2 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) 1024 MB local ram (remote 2047 MB cached + 2047 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 920 MHz, memory clock: 1200 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 1472000

Device 1: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) 1024 MB local ram (remote 2047 MB cached + 2047 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 920 MHz, memory clock: 1200 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 1472000

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 14.495071 Total time: 187.534512
called boinc_finish

SOL file matches

Hi,

I have tested the last version.

Vista64
Boinc 6.10.11
Catalyst 9.9
5870@900MHz

25.02.2010 09:01:40 PrimeGrid Aborting task ap26_11530242_11530250_192_0: exceeded elapsed time limit 346.865940

This happens several times at nearly 75% of the estimated time.

One WU has finished in 5Min. This one was reported as OK.

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Completed 4 tasks of latest BOINC version and all validated OK using HD 4890 and HD 5870. Still appears heavily CPU bound. GPUs not fully loaded and very low temps. GPU load sometimes drops to zero % for a while especially on HD 5870.

Xeon W3520 @ 2267 MHz, HD 4890 @ 950 core 1000 memory, HD 5870 @ 950 core 1300 memory


<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus>
POEM@Home running on remaining 6 cores
HD 4890 - Run time 1130.84 CPU time 1108.87
HD 5870 - Run time 784.16 CPU time 763.17

<avg_ncpus>4</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>4</max_ncpus>
Two AP26 ATI tasks allocated all 8 cores.
HD 4890 - Run time 898.20 CPU time 924.49
HD 5870 - Run time 524.55 CPU time 536.32

Hay all,

I was excited when John PM'd me about there being ATI work, even though 'unofficial'. I've only recently gotten a GPU, so I'm kind of a noob on running optimised apps, and there was no help file in the .zip d/l, so I did my best. I'm erroring out - I've read the thread, and can't seem to find a solution (if there is one). I am on:
Windoze 7 64-bit
AMD Turion, dual core
ATI 4550

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Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

Cannot read AP26-ini.txt !!!
Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
AP26 Search 0.4 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

CAL Runtime: 1.4.344
Found: 1 device(s)

Device 0: ATI Radeon HD 4350/4550 (R710) 512 MB local ram (remote 1854 MB cached + 1854 MB uncached)
GPU core clock: 500 MHz, memory clock: 300 MHz
Single precision FLOPS: 160000

Starting WU (K= 366384 - 366384 shift 0) on GPU 0
PrimeTest time: 0.052964 Total time: 970.245087
called boinc_finish
Can't set up shared mem: -1
Will run in standalone mode.
AP26 Search 0.4 adapted for ATI GPU by Sebastian Jaworowicz
Code by Jaroslaw Wroblewski

Cannot read AP26-ini.txt !!!
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That looks like the output from the original test version.

Perhaps you would like to install and try the BOINC version mentioned later in the thread. You will need to attach to the AP26 subproject and then stop BOINC. Then move the 4 files in the zip folder (AP26.exe, app_info.xml, brook.dll and brook_cal.dll) into the PrimeGrid directory located at C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\. Then restart BOINC. In other words the normal procedure for an anonymous platform installation.

You should also open app_info.xml in Notepad and change <max_ncpus>0.2/max_ncpus> to <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>

Changing the application to use a full CPU core instead of 0.2 core may give better performance:
<avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>

The BOINC version can be found at: http://www.sesef.pl/AP/AP26PGx86-461.zip

i7 920 @ 3.3Ghz
2x 5850 @ 775/900
Catalyst 10.2
Win 7 32-bit

Did the change to
<avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>

CPU usage 100% on 1 core each
GPU usage 90% on each

Seem to validate fine. WUs take 557s or so for

In my GPU experience, I get 100% CPU usage with host synchronise commands which aren't technically needed (put in for clarity), but slow the program down and jack up the CPU usage. Just a thought.


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i7 920 @ 3.3Ghz
2x 5850 @ 775/900
Catalyst 10.2
Win 7 32-bit

Did the change to
<avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>

CPU usage 100% on 1 core each
GPU usage 90% on each

Seem to validate fine. WUs take 557s or so for

In my GPU experience, I get 100% CPU usage with host synchronise commands which aren't technically needed (put in for clarity), but slow the program down and jack up the CPU usage. Just a thought.

i7 920 @ 3.3Ghz
2x 5850 @ 775/900
Catalyst 10.2
Win 7 32-bit

Did the change to
<avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>

CPU usage 100% on 1 core each
GPU usage 90% on each

Seem to validate fine. WUs take 557s or so for

In my GPU experience, I get 100% CPU usage with host synchronise commands which aren't technically needed (put in for clarity), but slow the program down and jack up the CPU usage. Just a thought.

I have a 4870 and WUs take 495s or so.
There's something wrong, btw, in these times. I think, as you have just said, that much of the CPU & GPU usage is there only because of syncronizations, or we couldn't understand why a faster CPU & a faster GPU are doing worse than my config (my GPU is not overclocked!).

Oh my good. The score is terrible.
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I dowloaded ATI Mobility Modder 1.2.1.0 from Driverheaven. With the program up, I browsed my ATI driver and pressed Modify, whereafter it said Driver Modifications Finished. The AP26 app still gives the same stderr.

I'm a bit confused about this app.
If it's working under BOINC then why hasn't it been released?
I understand that it isn't as efficient as the CUDA version but if it still enables us to crunch on our ATI GPUs then I don't understand why it isn't generally available. What have I missed?
Thanks,
Peter

I am definitely using the later version of the app. I had done this before, but trying again, here is exactly what I did:

With the AP26 subproject enabled in my preferences, as well as the reisel seive, I shut down Boinc and then copied the four files into "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\" from the zip folder. Then I restarted Boinc, opened app_info.xml, and made the three changes suggested(<max_ncpus>0.2/max_ncpus> to <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>, then changing the 0.2 to 1.0 on the lines <avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus> and <max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>)

The message in the stderr.xml is exactly the same when I launch the AP26.exe.

Awesome. I just put those 4 files in the www.primegrid.com directory and restarted BOINC. I lost 8 work units that were in progress plus another couple of hours of work that was already downloaded. I won't be touching this crap again until it's officially supported.
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FUCK THIS PROJECT AND THEIR COMMIE BULLSHIT POLITICS

That was unfortunate. Any unfinished tasks for applications that are not in an app_info.xml will be deleted when BOINC restarts. This always happens when using anonymous platform. I did say to download an AP26 task meaning only one however I did not repeat the warning given earlier in the thread by enderak and perhaps I should have. I was only trying to help some people who posted that they were having difficulty getting the BOINC AP26 ATI version to run so that they could help to test it.

My apologies for not repeating the warning given earlier. I have only ever run one PrimeGrid subproject at a time so the thought of trashing work for other subprojects was not in my mind. I understand the frustration and disappointment this can cause, I have had the same thing happen to me and lost a lot of partly completed work the first time I used an app_info.xml file when helping to test beta applications at Einstein@home and it has also happened a few times since at other projects when I have misconfigured something.

It is the nature of helping to test new applications that you have to be prepared for tasks to crash sometimes or cause other problems. Without people prepared to test though, development of new applications or improvements would be delayed or not happen at all.

Well I saw the posts saying to download an AP26 workunit first, but there is nothing anywhere stating that you can only be attached to the AP26 project and no others. Can we not update the app_info.xml to support the other projects? :) I am doing AP26, SGS and PPS on this machine and I can't see the need to dedicate the entire machine to 1 project. =)
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FUCK THIS PROJECT AND THEIR COMMIE BULLSHIT POLITICS

Yes after I read your previous post I thought of an app_info.xml to cater for the other PrimeGrid subprojects. However I then realised that it would be a quite a complicated one having to include so many different subprojects. If any of the subprojects changed or updated their application then it would quickly become out of date.

It is possible to make one I suppose for one's own usage, but if someone who is unfamiliar with how to install an app_info.xml misconfigures something then all the tasks would still be deleted. So the use of an all inclusive app_info.xml may provide false assurance.

Probably better and safer for most testers to follow the warning advice given by enderak and ensure that all tasks for all PrimeGrid subprojects are completed and the cache is empty before giving the BOINC AP26 ATI application a try.

I sometimes still muck up app_info.xml files even after using them for a while, so I almost always empty my cache first before using one. My cache is currently set to 0.2 days and I rarely use a large cache with any project so this is not a problem for me.

I'm probably not the best person to be giving advice on how to do these type of things but I can't see people struggling with something with nobody helping them for some time without at least trying to give some assistance. It is necessary to balance the level of detail given so as not to overwhelm. Also I may forget to mention some things that would not be known by someone new to a procedure because I have used it for a fair while and now take those things for granted.

Some people with greater knowledge and experience than me who would be able to help are sometimes reluctant to do so because either they do not have enough time to explain in detail or they have received ungrateful feedback in the past after the person they were trying to help had some negative experience.

For me I try not to get frustrated when something crashes that I have misconfigured or where I have followed advice given in good faith that may be incomplete or incorrect. Although I am always careful so as not to upset the running of the projects, I feel that these types of mistakes are helpful to learn something. With app_info.xml files particularly, most people who have used them extensively would have unintentionally trashed some tasks at least once, it's kind of like an initiation. :) It's quite a shock the first time it happens and any cached tasks just disappear into the ether like some kind of magic vanishing trick. It is understandable that this shock may create frustration, dismay and even anger.

is anyone working on a new version of this ATi app, with maybe lower CPU usage?

anyway, thanks a lot for your dedication in bringing us this version! It's not perfect, but it's free for all, and surely better than what I could have done!

Any news about the further progress of the app? Where can we get the source code?
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