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Tour de Primes 2023
Welcome to the 14th annual Tour de Primes. 2 is the first prime number...and the only even one. This makes it unique among prime numbers. Therefore, February is declared Prime month...being the 2nd month of the year. :) And there's no better way to pay homage to a prime number than to go out and find one. :) More precisely, a Top 5000 prime.
For the month of February, an informal competition is offered. There are no challenge points to be gained... just a simple rare jersey at the end of the month to add to your badge list. No pressure or stress other than what you put on yourself. :)
For 2023, we're bringing back the badges introduced in 2018:
 Red Jersey -- discoverer of largest prime
 Yellow Jersey -- prime count leader (tiebreaker will be prime score)
 Green Jersey -- points (prime score) leader
 Polk-a-dot Jersey -- on the 19th of February we'll have a "Mountain Stage" and award the Polk-a-dot Jersey to the one who finds the most primes on that day (tiebreaker will be prime score for that day).
 Prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds an eligible prime during the month of February. This is a counter badge, so if you find more than one prime it will show how many you've found, up to 99.
 Mega prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds a mega prime during February. This is a counter badge.
 Mountain Stage prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds an eligible prime during the Mountain Stage. This is a counter badge.
 Mountain Stage mega prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds a mega prime during the Mountain Stage. This is a counter badge.
Results will be available at http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/tdp_2023.php.
This year sees the demise of the "just for giggles" Double Checker scoreboard. Because of the fast double check system, there are no more double checkers for primes large enough to be in TdP.
As with the last few years, for all primes (BOINC and PRPNet) we're using the new reporting system whereby the prime's date of discovery determines whether it's eligible for the Tour de Primes. Prior to 2014, the date of verification for BOINC primes was used while the discovery date was used for PRPNet primes. The current system is more intuitive and fairer.
Note that PPSE, SGS, and GFN-15 are too small to be reported to the Top 5000 primes list and are therefore not eligible for the 2023 Tour de Primes.
Currently, the fastest opportunities to find Top 5000 primes is with the PPS-MEGA (LLR), and GFN-16 (65536) projects. Of course, should someone find a prime in the larger searches, this would certainly give them a good shot at the green or red jerseys. Not a guarantee, however, as in 2022 there were 83 mega primes found in the Tour de Primes. Overall, in 2021 we averaged over eight mega primes per week for the entire year, so you might need more than "merely" a mega prime to take home green.
All ports in PRPNet are available for the competition.
To participate in BOINC PPS-MEGA, GFN-16, or any other eligible LLR or Genefer project, all you have to do is select it in your PrimeGrid preferences. AP27 sequences are not reportable at T5K, so are not eligible for Tour de Primes.
Sieve projects don't find primes, so PPS-Sieve can't find anything in TdP.
Good Luck, have fun, and enjoy! :D
Previous Winners
 - Pooh Bear 27
 - tng
 - tng
 - mattozan
 - BarryAZ
 - boss
 - BarryAZ
 - tng
 - tng*
 - RFGuy_KCCO
 - Scott Brown
 - mattozan
 - Honza
 - Scott Brown
 - 288larsson
 - [AF>EDLS]GuL
 - Robish
 - [AF>Amis des Lapins] dthonon
 - [AF>Amis des Lapins] dthonon
 - tng*
 - wdethomas
 - tng*
 - wdethomas
 - tng*
 - boss
 - Scott Brown
 - boss
 - Orange_1050
 - Scott Brown
 - Randall J. Scalise
 - vmc
 - [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
 - [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
 - Lonnie Christensen
 - [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
 - [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
 - PBT_marian_boss
 - Scott Brown
 - Usucapio Libertatis
 - Scott Brown
 - shanky123
 - [BOINCstats] LostBoy
 - Snf*
 - lennart
 - lennart
 - [SG]marodeur6
 - lennart
 - s-yama
 - lennart
Full rankings can be seen here: 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022
Totals by Year
2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022
Total Primes found 212 309 766 646 238 254 254 346 246 256 277 377 423 384
Total Score 457.30 2663.27 21803.72 20727.04 15614.83 20982.77 30268.46 43656.50 40201.94 55393.50 63588.96 130171.15 258893.74 171308.65
Tips and Strategies:
Tips for LLR:
- Your mileage may vary. What works for me may not work for you. Before TdP starts, take some time and experiment and see what works best on your computer.
- If you have a CPU with hyperthreading, either turn off the hyperthreading in the BIOS, or set BOINC to use 50% of the processors. (But see below for exceptions.)
- If you're using a GPU for other tasks, it may be beneficial to leave hyperthreading on in the BIOS and instead tell BOINC to use 50% of the CPU's. This will allow one of the hyperthreads to service the GPU.
- Use LLR's multithreaded mode. It requires a little bit of setup, but it's worth the effort. Follow these steps:
- Use multi-threading on larger tasks. What constitutes "larger" varies according to how fast your CPU is and your personal tastes.
- It's no longer necessary to use app_config.xml to set up multi-threading. On the PrimeGrid preferences page, set "Multi-threading: Max # of threads for each task" to "No limit" to use the maximum number of threads for each task, or select a specific thread count if you prefer.
Tips for GFN:
- New for this year, GFN can use multihreading, so running GFN on your CPU might make sense. Unlike LLR, sometimes hyperthreads do help GFN CPU tasks, so use them if you have them.
- Unless you have a really slow GPU and a really fast CPU, leave a CPU core free to service the GPU. You'll want the more powerful GPU running at full speed, even if it slows down the CPU somewhat. A hyperthread should be sufficient if your CPU supports hyperthreading. For example, on a 4 core CPU (without hyperthreading), you could set BOINC to "use 75% of the CPUs" to reserve one core for the GPU.
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Will NPLB (i.e., no primes left behind) be considered part of prpnet, and so be monitored? There are 4 active ports there . . . :) |
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Oh this will be interesting! No PPSE this year.
Prime finds will be down this year for sure.
I guess PPS is now the best chance, not MEGA am I correct?
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Oh this will be interesting! No PPSE this year.
Prime finds will be down this year for sure.
I guess PPS is now the best chance, not MEGA am I correct?
PPS has grown in such a way that all primes found now have ~ 1,100,00 digits (it's actually bigger than PPS-Mega).
https://www.primegrid.com/primes/primes.php?project=PPS&factors=+&only=ALL&announcements=ALL&sortby=date&dc=no&search=
GFN-16 will be the best (and only) chance not MEGA.
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Will NPLB (i.e., no primes left behind) be considered part of prpnet, and so be monitored? There are 4 active ports there . . . :)
No, only PrimeGrid primes count for Tour de Primes.
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I am eager to see if there will be more individuals getting a TdP badge this year as compared to other years since everyone will be first when returning a result.
I realize volume counts due to faster and/or more machines but I recall TdP 2020, for example, where I was first on one prime discovery and second on five other new primes. |
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I am eager to see if there will be more individuals getting a TdP badge this year as compared to other years since everyone will be first when returning a result.
I realize volume counts due to faster and/or more machines but I recall TdP 2020, for example, where I was first on one prime discovery and second on five other new primes.
We have nearly a doubling of throughput from LLR2, and more recently with GFN.
We have advancement in speed of computers and possibly greater use of the cloud.
But we have - as I understand it - a greater amount of work to be done to find each prime.
I reckon one of your seconds could have been a first for sure. |
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I'm looking forward to it. I'm disappointed I didn't manage to get a badge last year--the odds were in my favor but luck was not. Now I have notably more compute power than I did this time last year, so I should be able to succeed in getting a badge--and then I will probably try for a mega badge during TdP for the first time.
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Trying for my first mega. |
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All ports in PRPNet are available for the competition.
All two ports (https://prpnet.primegrid.com/). /JeppeSN |
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Oh this will be interesting! No PPSE this year.
Prime finds will be down this year for sure.
I guess PPS is now the best chance, not MEGA am I correct?
PPS has grown in such a way that all primes found now have ~ 1,100,00 digits (it's actually bigger than PPS-Mega).
https://www.primegrid.com/primes/primes.php?project=PPS&factors=+&only=ALL&announcements=ALL&sortby=date&dc=no&search=
GFN-16 will be the best (and only) chance not MEGA.
Oh ok. So MEGA are better odds than PPS. I did not know that.
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I believe TdP deserves some space in the News section on PG homepage.
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Oh this will be interesting! No PPSE this year.
Prime finds will be down this year for sure.
I guess PPS is now the best chance, not MEGA am I correct?
PPS has grown in such a way that all primes found now have ~ 1,100,00 digits (it's actually bigger than PPS-Mega).
https://www.primegrid.com/primes/primes.php?project=PPS&factors=+&only=ALL&announcements=ALL&sortby=date&dc=no&search=
GFN-16 will be the best (and only) chance not MEGA.
Oh ok. So MEGA are better odds than PPS. I did not know that.
Because PPS has more digits then MEGA. More digits less chance: but not so much less chance.
Stick to GFN16 and got badge... Then do whatever you wish, when you got secured your badge :)
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Unlike LLR, sometimes hyperthreads do help GFN CPU tasks, so use them if you have them.
I just did some quick testing on GFN-16. I'm seeing similar behaviour to LLR in that case at least. I also saw similar on GFN-17 for the recent challenge.
7920X HT on
50% threads: 1240 results per day
50% threads + manual affinity setting: 1462 results per day
90% threads + watching video: 1331 to 1394 results per day. Lower is actual for test, higher assumes the CPU taken by video would be used for crunching too.
Basically Windows (10) scheduler still sucks when it comes to multiple tasks using 1 thread each. Tasks wander around all the threads and don't stay still. The losses occur when there are effectively more than one task on the same core at any time, meaning some cores are not fully loaded.
Manually setting affinity for BOINC to using only even or odd numbered CPU threads prevents this from happening. Each task can only occupy one core and throughput is improved.
Using more than 50% of CPU threads with default Windows behaviour helps to ensure that no core is under used. It helps reduce the loss, but doesn't in itself improve performance above optimised 1 task per core configuration. I didn't measure power consumption but based on past observations, I'd expect this to take more CPU power than the optimal condition. Alternatively for a CPU working on fixed power limit, it may lower performance. |
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As usual the weather is cooperating here for TdP.
Daily lows are -40 C for the next 7 days, sometimes hitting -50 C with the wind chill. |
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As usual the weather is cooperating here for TdP.
Daily lows are -40 C for the next 7 days, sometimes hitting -50 C with the wind chill.
If you go 180 degrees in the opposite direction here in Australia you get +40 C or more in a lot of New South Wales and other parts of Australia.
So a bit harder to run computers flat out when ones office pushes past 30 C and is looking at 38 C if I didn't put the air conditioner on.
Conan
(sorry a bit off topic there.)
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I'm with you Conan.
Brisbane here.
Unfortunately this challenge is the worst time of year for us in the southern hemisphere.
Goodluck
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The expected number of candidates needed for one prime is e-γ log N / log pmax, where γ is Euler's constant, N ~ candidate and pmax is the sieve limit.
GFN-16 (P badge): 0.5614595 * 216 * log(185e6) / log(120e18) ~ 15150 candidates,
GFN-17 (M badge): 0.5614595 * 217 * log(138e6) / log(250e18) ~ 29400 candidates.
These expected values are the parameter of a Poisson distribution then good luck!
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These expected values are the parameter of a Poisson distribution then good luck!
That sounds kind of of not fully wanting to say the Poisson distribution will be our best shot at a prime. I am getting the black cat, a ladder and some salt into experimentation right now.
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The previous was a joke.
I will be experimenting with a rabbit's foot (not Matilda's), a 4-leaf clover and some salt.
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It looks like there are a few unlucky numbers at b<140M. During the challenge, I had two tasks ending with "validation failed!": b=135028388 using avx and b=136030622 using sse4.
In both cases, I was able to reproduce this on a different computer with avx, while fma produced a good result, so I'm quite confident that it's the b limit and not some random hardware error.
GFN-17 round-off error is fixed: genefer 4.03 is the new GFN-17 CPU application.
Errors should no longer occur for any b < 1G.
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I understand that over an immense reach into the numbers, the ratio of primes to non-primes becomes predictable.
(I once tried reading about the Zeta function and I won't do that again.)
The primes we are looking for have special properties able to be calculated, but with some limitations on hardware.
What I am asking is this - and if I understand the first part - is there any connection between the overall distribution of all primes and the distribution of special primes we are looking for and can find? |
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I am feeling particularly dim.
If I got the first part right - over an immense expanse of numbers, the ratio of primes to non-primes becomes predictable.
And even though we can find certain special primes, they are still within that expanse.
Do I get a 5/10?
Possibly a 2/10 because I should have said nothing. |
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What I am asking is this - and if I understand the first part - is there any connection between the overall distribution of all primes and the distribution of special primes we are looking for and can find?
The prime number theorem can be extended to a sequence of prime numbers generated by a product of polynomials (GFN, k·2n+1 fixed n, ...): Bateman-Horn conjecture or even exponentials (k·2n+1 fixed k, ...): number of primes in a sequence.
But today, these are conjectures, not theorems.
I understand that over an immense reach into the numbers, the ratio of primes to non-primes becomes predictable.
The density of primes is predictable. But pi(x) - Li(x) changes sign infinitely often (J. E. Littlewood, 1914) and it is believed that it is chaotic. We can compute the distribution but we cannot predict where a prime is.
For the number of distinct prime factors of n, there is a theorem: Erdős–Kac theorem. We can build the standard normal distribution with integers, without rolling the dice.
To understand the relationship between the prime number search and chaos, we can compare it to the Mandelbrot set. After sieving, the number is close to the border of the set. Only the full computation of a primality test is able to indicate if the number is in or out. Because of the fractal structure, two neighbours may be one in and the other out and we cannot decide by solving a simple equation.
But all that is off-topic. Create another thread if needed.
What I wanted to point out is that if you can check more than 15,000 GFN-16 in February then you can propably obtain the P badge and with 30,000 Mega, the M badge. |
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Went bananas with the electric duster and cleaned up my farm yesterday. Hopefully everything should be good and fairly quiet for the month while my furnace gets a break.
Have a couple rigs that don't want to post, one is a laptop that looks to have a hard drive issue and the other a 2P Xeon v2 that I think needs a new battery. Next weekend's project.
Previous years I've been working up the P number; this year, with the increase in difficulty, I'll be happy just being on the board.
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"To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall!
Now dash away! dash away! dash away all!"
Ho-Ho-HO!
Best of luck to all for this month-long dash :)
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly. |
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly.
:)
I feel the same way.
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I nearly forgot about TdP this year. I already found one Mega earlier this this month, hoping for one during TdP. Now, I just need to get my other systems out of mothball. There was a time when my system with 2 GTX 1080s was my pride and joy. Now, it just seems "geriatric", but it does makes for a great space heater! |
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly.
Pretty certain nobody's ages well. :)
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly.
Ha! At least it’s working!
My Threadripper has given up just 15hrs before the start time.
Windows won’t start with bsod. I get into the bios and it says the cpu temp is 80 degrees C which is ridiculous considering it’s just been turned on.
No AIO, it’s a Noctua so I guess I’ll have to check the thermal paste.
I couldn’t even boot into the Windows 10 USB :(
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Way to many tasks in error mode Genefer 16 v4.02 (openclatiGFN16) by way to many members. |
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It took 8 minutes to get the site and post this.
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We can’t connect to the server at www.primegrid.com.
If you entered the right address, you can:
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Looks now working again...
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Web Site keeps timing out ...
Also having problems with a COMPUTER not saving a change of venue From Home to School, etc
... EDIT Did a update on the computer and it shows on the PC a change of venue but the page here on PG still showing old venue.
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly.
I've decided to just call it "antique' now and be extra-proud of it! 👴
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Are people generally pre-loading a bunch of work or taking them as they become available? I'm wondering if cached task save on upload and retrieval time? |
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They work for you if your network or the PrimeGrid Server have issues.
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly.
Hey, at least this year we can run tasks in the most efficient way, rather than throwing threads at each task trying to be first.
Are people generally pre-loading a bunch of work or taking them as they become available? I'm wondering if cached task save on upload and retrieval time?
That's another benefit this year: we can cache tasks, and yes it saves (slightly) on download time. |
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Is there some mechanism that shares out the "Main" and "Second" tasks to users. I had to look through 180 tasks for GFN17-Mega to find 10 "Main" tasks. It is the same or worse for GFN16. Itn is hard to find a Prime when you only get .05% od Mains. Nit sure if the % is correct, but the odds are against me. |
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Hey, at least this year we can run tasks in the most efficient way, rather than throwing threads at each task trying to be first.
Not here...
Electricity cost roughly doubled. :(
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Is there some mechanism that shares out the "Main" and "Second" tasks to users. I had to look through 180 tasks for GFN17-Mega to find 10 "Main" tasks. It is the same or worse for GFN16. Itn is hard to find a Prime when you only get .05% od Mains. Nit sure if the % is correct, but the odds are against me.
Main tasks are much longer (64 or 128 times longer), so even though by chance you got a bunch of DC tasks, overall, they're only going to take up 1 or 2 percent of your computer's processing time.
When there are DC tasks available, they are prioritized and they go out first. However, since they're so short, you'll usually get a main task or two to fill out the time, and the main tasks will run for far longer than all of the DC tasks.
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Ah, the yearly reminder how my hardware is aging poorly.
Hey, at least this year we can run tasks in the most efficient way, rather than throwing threads at each task trying to be first.
Are people generally pre-loading a bunch of work or taking them as they become available? I'm wondering if cached task save on upload and retrieval time?
That's another benefit this year: we can cache tasks, and yes it saves (slightly) on download time.
I run one task per host.
The issue with downloading 1000 tasks it that they then aborts them.
It now takes 2-3 minutes the upload and report and then get a new tasks.
Also some have a tool that aborts [Proof task] so they are only running Main Tasks.
It is now where like it was back in 2019 and before.
Before I would have uploaded reported and gotten a new tasks in less than 1 minute.
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Cloud Computing is the new way of running BOINC now.
Thanks!
FYI...I am not running any cloud resources.
(I am running a couple of Google CoLab instances that go for a couple of hours or so before shutting off, but that is because I wanted to show T4 performance to a colleague compared to some of the GeForce cards as they consider computing resources on smaller grant budgets these days.)
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Im not sure why, but tasks are not presented in chronological order. This first few pages of tasks are mostly DC but not completely, the last pages are almost all main tasks but not always. You have to literally add every single task youve done which is thousands for some people to get your actual main/DC ratio. Or script it. |
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Thanks!
FYI...I am not running any cloud resources.
(I am running a couple of Google CoLab instances that go for a couple of hours or so before shutting off, but that is because I wanted to show T4 performance to a colleague compared to some of the GeForce cards as they consider computing resources on smaller grant budgets these days.)
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Im not sure why, but tasks are not presented in chronological order. This first few pages of tasks are mostly DC but not completely, the last pages are almost all main tasks but not always. You have to literally add every single task youve done which is thousands for some people to get your actual main/DC ratio. Or script it.
It seems tasks are listed by descending task ID's.
I see no easy way to find out the main/fast proof ratio.
I estimate, in my case - for my local computer, that 80% of the tasks I got are fast proof tasks.
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I don't get the connection. Scott's one of the heavy hitters here who has his own computing resources.
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Im not sure why, but tasks are not presented in chronological order. This first few pages of tasks are mostly DC but not completely, the last pages are almost all main tasks but not always. You have to literally add every single task youve done which is thousands for some people to get your actual main/DC ratio. Or script it.
It seems tasks are listed by descending task ID's.
Nope. Although don't feel bad about not being able to recognize the order in which the tasks are displayed.
The list is unordered.
Ordering the list would incur a tremendous performance penalty.
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I've given up getting too passionate about these challenges these days BC. Just got to hope lady luck shines on what limited resources we own ;)
I suspect I'm not going to do as good as previous years.
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I've given up getting too passionate about these challenges these days BC. Just got to hope lady luck shines on what limited resources we own ;)
I suspect I'm not going to do as good as previous years.
I think having a smaller share of the sample space does not matter when the sample space is open-ended.
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I estimate, in my case - for my local computer, that 80% of the tasks I got are fast proof tasks.
I think that it depends on the speed of the computer. Quick runtime => many proof tasks, slow runtime => few of them.
If you look at your computers, there are many GFN-16 proofs on GPU but few on CPU.
It is an unintentional and unexpected trend.
On the server, there is a bunch of proof tasks available during few seconds and then none for several seconds. It is not regular but few peaks of proof tasks.
Fast computers should have a higher probability to catch them.
It is not difficult to write a small program that simulates this process, see if my assumption is correct and then an "obvious" mathematical solution can always be found. :-) |
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I estimate, in my case - for my local computer, that 80% of the tasks I got are fast proof tasks.
I think that it depends on the speed of the computer. Quick runtime => many proof tasks, slow runtime => few of them.
If you look at your computers, there are many GFN-16 proofs on GPU but few on CPU.
It is an unintentional and unexpected trend.
On the server, there is a bunch of proof tasks available during few seconds and then none for several seconds. It is not regular but few peaks of proof tasks.
Fast computers should have a higher probability to catch them.
It is not difficult to write a small program that simulates this process, see if my assumption is correct and then an "obvious" mathematical solution can always be found. :-)
This makes sense.
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Im not sure why, but tasks are not presented in chronological order. This first few pages of tasks are mostly DC but not completely, the last pages are almost all main tasks but not always. You have to literally add every single task youve done which is thousands for some people to get your actual main/DC ratio. Or script it.
It seems tasks are listed by descending task ID's.
Nope. Although don't feel bad about not being able to recognize the order in which the tasks are displayed.
The list is unordered.
Ordering the list would incur a tremendous performance penalty.
Good thing I wrote "it seems".
Looks can be deceiving :)
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Looks like my GFN 16 is out of the way, and it is time to move on and hope for a mega prime.
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Got on the board on day 1 with an older GPU. Yay!
Finally able to buy an unscalped 4090 after lots of saving up and months of trying. Double yay!
It's a good TdP this year :-)
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Is it better to do cudaGFN16 by receiving a single task and downloading a new one once the previous task is finished and uploaded, or downloading 100 tasks (probably with task number in order in a small certain interval) and downloading a new batch of 100 tasks once the previous 100 tasks are finished? Which way is more efficient and has better chance of finding a prime? |
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I don't get the connection. Scott's one of the heavy hitters here who has his own computing resources.
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Is it better to do cudaGFN16 by receiving a single task and downloading a new one once the previous task is finished and uploaded, or downloading 100 tasks (probably with task number in order in a small certain interval) and downloading a new batch of 100 tasks once the previous 100 tasks are finished? Which way is more efficient and has better chance of finding a prime?
Yes and No, I only download running tasks and ones that take 3 seconds takes 83 seconds to upload, report, and get a new task. But I think this is the best way to find a Prime.
I see to many aborted tasks from members that download up to 1000 tasks and then abort then and also lots and lots of tasks that error out because members do not test a project before downloading hundreds of tasks just to error out.
It is all about finding Primes not about how many tasks you can complete, abort, or error out.
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Looks like my GFN 16 is out of the way, and it is time to move on and hope for a mega prime.
Do you mean that there are no more Primes with GFN 16?
GPU and CPU?
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Looks like my GFN 16 is out of the way, and it is time to move on and hope for a mega prime.
Do you mean that there are no more Primes with GFN 16?
GPU and CPU?
I mean I claimed the P badge, and now I am off to see if I can also get the M badge by the end of the month. There are still plenty of GFN 16 primes available for others to find.
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I've given up getting too passionate about these challenges these days BC. Just got to hope lady luck shines on what limited resources we own ;)
I suspect I'm not going to do as good as previous years.
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Looks like my GFN 16 is out of the way, and it is time to move on and hope for a mega prime.
Do you mean that there are no more Primes with GFN 16?
GPU and CPU?
I mean I claimed the P badge, and now I am off to see if I can also get the M badge by the end of the month. There are still plenty of GFN 16 primes available for others to find.
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I've given up getting too passionate about these challenges these days BC. Just got to hope lady luck shines on what limited resources we own ;)
I suspect I'm not going to do as good as previous years.
I think having a smaller share of the sample space does not matter when the sample space is open-ended.
I guess you mean your place in the rankings.
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Which way is more efficient and has better chance of finding a prime?
Yes and No, I only download running tasks and ones that take 3 seconds takes 83 seconds to upload, report, and get a new task. But I think this is the best way to find a Prime.
Better to get more tasks so you can do more.
With LLR2 and genefer22 working for us it's all about statistics, and those say you need a certain amount of tasks until you find a prime.
So just get as many tasks as you can finish within the time limit if you want.
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Which way is more efficient and has better chance of finding a prime?
Yes and No, I only download running tasks and ones that take 3 seconds takes 83 seconds to upload, report, and get a new task. But I think this is the best way to find a Prime.
Better to get more tasks so you can do more.
With LLR2 and genefer22 working for us it's all about statistics, and those say you need a certain amount of tasks until you find a prime.
So just get as many tasks as you can finish within the time limit if you want.
I did the same thing especially since everyone is first on alot of the Projects |
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It's better to continously buffer a couple of hours of work to do in case the PG server or your internet connection stops working. A buffer of 0.1 day is good for this. You may get 500+ GFN16 tasks depending on the speed of your GPU and the number of cores you have, but don't worry, that's just 2 or 3 hours of work. |
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Why some tasks are validated without DC WUs?
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Why some tasks are validated without DC WUs?
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862638390
That's a really good question. I'll find out.
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Why some tasks are validated without DC WUs?
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862638390
You said "tasks", plural. I could not find any examples other than the one you provided. Are there more?
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Why some tasks are validated without DC WUs?
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862638390
You said "tasks", plural. I could not find any examples other than the one you provided. Are there more?
I have only this one, but something is wrong with this WU in general. "Compressed 8 points to 3 products." instead of "Compressed 32 points to 5 products." like in other WUs |
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Why some tasks are validated without DC WUs?
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862638390
You said "tasks", plural. I could not find any examples other than the one you provided. Are there more?
I have only this one, but something is wrong with this WU in general. "Compressed 8 points to 3 products." instead of "Compressed 32 points to 5 products." like in other WUs
k=27 and n is even. Is this double-check of work done on PRPNet port that was not double-checked in PPS-DIV? /JeppeSN |
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Why some tasks are validated without DC WUs?
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862638390
You said "tasks", plural. I could not find any examples other than the one you provided. Are there more?
Did some digging through my own tasks. Here's more:
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862469592
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=862461430
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=860977837
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=860883400
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=860585188
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Not in Subproject status and I think the whole thing could be borking.
No, many people may have forgotten, but in the old days we ran a k=27 port for both c=+1 and c=-1 on PRPNet. Stuff is never double checked on PRPNet, but the residues were kept.
Archive.org capture (slow) of the port at some random time in history:
http://web.archive.org/web/20170707014541/http://prpnet.primegrid.com:12006/
Then for c=+1 and n odd, the results from PRPNet were later checked by the PPS-DIV (Proth Prime Search, Fermat Divisor project). But for c=+1 and n even, the results are being checked right now at PPS "regular".
Stream has this status page:
https://boincvm.proxyma.ru:30443/test4vm/public/pps_dc_status.php
The work unit pawg noticed and asked about, is different because it is of this type (27*2^3888464 + 1).
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PPS DIV is +1.
Where do you get the c from?
Should it not be k?
I used c, k and n in the sense explained in https://primegrid.fandom.com/wiki/Letters_k,_n,_etc.
That k=27 has a special status can also be inferred from https://www.primegrid.com/stats_pps_llr.php.
I see that some of the tasks linked by Grebuloner were other k values (not 27). This seems to contradict my theory here. But how can one tell the difference between a "main" work unit where the corresponding "proof" tasks has existed but was purged (I believe it is normal that proof tasks are purged earlier than main tasks), and a work unit which for some reason has never had any corresponding "proof" task?
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OK, answers...
First of all, all of those are VALID.
Unusual, but everything's ok.
Some of you will remember that there used to be a system where if we already had one residue from another source, your task would match directly against the residue without the need for a wingman. With LLR2 and fast DC, that works differently now, but that system still exists.
All of those tasks matched against a residue already in our database. LLR2 tasks return not only the LLR2 proof data; they also return the old-style residue. If that residue matches something in our database, we use that and don't bother creating a fast DC task. Your task gets fully validated immediately, with no DC task.
In the case of the k=27 tasks, those residues are from PRPNet.
The others just happen to have been in our database. It's usually difficult to track where those came from.
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It seems this year I am spending more time uploading and reporting and downloading then really running tasks.
Get a small cache of day 0.1 day. |
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It seems this year I am spending more time uploading and reporting and downloading then really running tasks.
Get a small cache of day 0.1 day.
Absolutely. This year, none of the subprojects that count for TdP are "race" projects, so you should clearly have a cache of something like 0.1 days (2 hours 24 minutes) or more. (For example, set nonzero "Resource share" in PrimeGrid preferences, and "Maintain enough work for an additional" 0.1 in Computing preferences.) /JeppeSN |
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Yeah I'm so happy I down have to install 7.14 on all my pc's to stop that extra task that would download then sit there.
I've set my cache to 0.01 which keeps about double the amount of work currently being crunched. Nice & low but never waiting.
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Just went to the basement to start some laundry and turning on the basement lights tripped a breaker. Oops.
Time to shuffle some systems around the house and maybe redistribute some GPUs.
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Just went to the basement to start some laundry and turning on the basement lights tripped a breaker. Oops.
Time to shuffle some systems around the house and maybe redistribute some GPUs.
That would be very scary if it was a single LED bulb in the basement. :)
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It seems this year I am spending more time uploading and reporting and downloading then really running tasks.
Get a small cache of day 0.1 day.
I have never gotten a Prime doing a cache of pending tasks.
Most of them end up be others error or aborted takes from days before.
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Did the server become borking right now for not having another for pending on GFN17 MEGA either?
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Just went to the basement to start some laundry and turning on the basement lights tripped a breaker. Oops.
Time to shuffle some systems around the house and maybe redistribute some GPUs.
That would be very scary if it was a single LED bulb in the basement. :)
Fortunately (or unfortunately?) there's a bit more than that. A few fluorescent tube hangers do the bulk of initial surging.
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It seems this year I am spending more time uploading and reporting and downloading then really running tasks.
Get a small cache of day 0.1 day.
I have never gotten a Prime doing a cache of pending tasks.
Most of them end up be others error or aborted takes from days before.
We have to many members that download only to about them at a latter time.
Bill it does not matter any more if you get someone's aborted task since you do not have to be first anymore. Used to be if you received aborted tasks it was a better chance of not getting a prime because the other person would return the task first. That is over with.
The person who aborts 1000 tasks may very well be aborting primes that will be sent to you.
Or better yet me! That person has no way of knowing if it is prime or not unless they crunch it. So again aborted tasks have just as much chance of being prime as any other task not processed.
Getting sent a prime is all luck. But the more to do the better are your chances.
It's kind of hard to error tasks with LLR2 since it seems to correct its self and start at the last point again. You will see the task with all red letters with a warning in red saying there is a problem.
And even if you get their errored out task it still can be a prime since it does not have to be returned first. Either you get a main task that may or may not be prime, or a short check task.
So yeah you want to have a cache of tasks so you do not have to wait for new tasks to upload and download. The more tasks you process the better the chance of being sent a prime. You can process the prime task and turn it in three days later and you're still the founder.
I am seeing several check tasks for every main task I do, to bad it can't be given out so it is one to one.
But its not all that bad, so I do 10 checks a 9 seconds each, that's 90 seconds and one main that runs for 6 or 7 minutes. So I am processing more time on main tasks but the ratio does seem to be out of sorts. |
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It seems this year I am spending more time uploading and reporting and downloading then really running tasks.
Get a small cache of day 0.1 day.
I have never gotten a Prime doing a cache of pending tasks.
Most of them end up be others error or aborted takes from days before.
We have to many members that download only to about them at a latter time.
Bill it does not matter any more if you get someone's aborted task since you do not have to be first anymore. Used to be if you received aborted tasks it was a better chance of not getting a prime because the other person would return the task first. That is over with.
The person who aborts 1000 tasks may very well be aborting primes that will be sent to you.
Or better yet me! That person has no way of knowing if it is prime or not unless they crunch it. So again aborted tasks have just as much chance of being prime as any other task not processed.
Getting sent a prime is all luck. But the more to do the better are your chances.
It's kind of hard to error tasks with LLR2 since it seems to correct its self and start at the last point again. You will see the task with all red letters with a warning in red saying there is a problem.
And even if you get their errored out task it still can be a prime since it does not have to be returned first. Either you get a main task that may or may not be prime, or a short check task.
So yeah you want to have a cache of tasks so you do not have to wait for new tasks to upload and download. The more tasks you process the better the chance of being sent a prime. You can process the prime task and turn it in three days later and you're still the founder.
I am seeing several check tasks for every main task I do, to bad it can't be given out so it is one to one.
But its not all that bad, so I do 10 checks a 9 seconds each, that's 90 seconds and one main that runs for 6 or 7 minutes. So I am processing more time on main tasks but the ratio does seem to be out of sorts.
True,
I just wish I had the script that aborted all any Prof Tasks.
I have been looking at some members tasks and some have 1000 and none of the are Prof Tasks.
When I get more than one running tasks between GPU and CPU I end up getting more CPU tasks and NO GPU tasks, but I guess I can give it a try. If I keep getting CPU tasks that keep me from running GPU tasks I will stop.
Yep! it is the same I am getting GPU tasks and waiting to run GPU tasks but not getting any CPU tasks.
I hate how the the network is so slow.
Also making this change to 1 reset all my "Preferences for this project" and deleted them all.
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Bill, I have it set to resource share 100, unlimited tasks, 9cores per task (running big prime search) one open for the GPU. 10 core cpu and one GPU.
Then on my computer I have it set to 0.01 cache use 100% and HT is off in the BIOS.I get plenty of GPU and CPU tasks.
The big question is why is your connection slow? Try resetting the router/modem, have a bad wire connection or a bad patch cable swap cables, have a different router to try, connect to the modem directly. I have no idea what's wrong with your connection but I think it is on your end as my up and downloads are fine. Maybe your ISP is having an issue on their end.
Using a VPN? Maybe try it without and see if its any better.
Do a trace and see where the delay is. Something is not right.
Side note: I've noticed the GPU uses one full core under Linux but under windows it says a lot less CPU used for the GPU tasks. Just seconds vs. the full run time under Linux. And I am getting no more warnings on my one x299 in win10, with LLR2 tasks, not sure why Linux was acting up.. Think I am switching back over to win10 for PG, Linux was not much faster and was slower when there were errors with LLR2. |
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Bill, I have it set to resource share 100, unlimited tasks, 9cores per task (running big prime search) one open for the GPU. 10 core cpu and one GPU.
Then on my computer I have it set to 0.01 cache use 100% and HT is off in the BIOS.I get plenty of GPU and CPU tasks.
The big question is why is your connection slow? Try resetting the router/modem, have a bad wire connection or a bad patch cable swap cables, have a different router to try, connect to the modem directly. I have no idea what's wrong with your connection but I think it is on your end as my up and downloads are fine. Maybe your ISP is having an issue on their end.
Using a VPN? Maybe try it without and see if its any better.
Do a trace and see where the delay is. Something is not right.
Side note: I've noticed the GPU uses one full core under Linux but under windows it says a lot less CPU used for the GPU tasks. Just seconds vs. the full run time under Linux. And I am getting no more warnings on my one x299 in win10, with LLR2 tasks, not sure why Linux was acting up.. Think I am switching back over to win10 for PG, Linux was not much faster and was slower when there were errors with LLR2.
My network is fine 55/55 fiber I also restart it once a week. I have no idea why it is only slow on the PG website. As long as I do not go to my Home Page the site is now slow to load, only my home page is slow. It loads half a page up to "Computing and credit" then 4-5 seconds later it then loads the rest. It just might seem slow to me because it has to load the "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours".
my resource share are set to 0, when I changed this to 1 that is when it rest my settings and deleted all my "Preferences for this project" I just reset them up. Also I wander if BAM! could also have caused this.
I have my GPU's to use 0.1 CPU. I did just get my 1st 16 GFN CPU Prime.
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With resource set to 0 I don’t think you can get a cache built up, I can’t anyway. It waits for tasks to finish before getting new tasks in case other projects want work. I guess even though the other projects are set to not get tasks.
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Geez Scott! 6 days in and already 16 primes found. Unbelievable.
Take the yellow jersey... it's yours. lol.
I'd hate to have your power bill though!
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Chooka ,You are wrong,he has already found 19!😄
Hope to have a badge this year, have not got ANY primes in February since 2011 and 1 SGS 2014 and 2015 no jersey for those and the badges was unknown until 2018(as far as can remember),correct me if I'm wrong!
I've participatied almost every year since 2010 😒
Keep on searching for small and big Primes!
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With resource set to 0 I don’t think you can get a cache built up, I can’t anyway. It waits for tasks to finish before getting new tasks in case other projects want work. I guess even though the other projects are set to not get tasks.
I bet the PG servers are getting slammed with all the small 3 second and other small check tasks being constantly sent in .
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With resource set to 0 I don’t think you can get a cache built up, I can’t anyway. It waits for tasks to finish before getting new tasks in case other projects want work. I guess even though the other projects are set to not get tasks.
I bet the PG servers are getting slammed with all the small 3 second and other small check tasks being constantly sent in .
I bet they are as well.
Those are easy. It's the main tasks -- and the server side processing necessary to then create the small tasks -- that is our concern. This isn't 2008. Server processing of small tasks isn't a problem.
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my resource share are set to 0, when I changed this to 1 that is when it rest my settings and deleted all my "Preferences for this project" I just reset them up. Also I wander if BAM! could also have caused this.
I believe so, as it happened to me as well when I set the resource share through Boincstats for PrimeGrid.
Don't remember happening anything like that on other projects, but maybe the problem lies somewhere with the Boincstats handling of extended venues that PrimeGrid uses.
I don't know, and neither do I want to try this out, so someone else might have to figure that out. ;-)
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Hi!
Chooka ,You are wrong,he has already found 19!😄
Hope to have a badge this year, have not got ANY primes in February since 2011 and 1 SGS 2014 and 2015 no jersey for those and the badges was unknown until 2018(as far as can remember),correct me if I'm wrong!
I've participatied almost every year since 2010 😒
Keep on searching for small and big Primes!
With regards, H. Sveen
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LOL... yes I woke just now to see the number climbed to 19. Incredible :)
I feel this year will be your year to find a prime Hans!
Goodluck mate!
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I finally got around to re connecting my machine with 2 GTX 1080 cards in it. To my horror, it produced 11 errors... It's running with the same configuration I used when it was last operating, during TdP 2022. Opened it up and found that the GPU heat sinks were far more dusty than I normally tolerate. Cleaned the system and all is good now.
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Apologies for the errors...
They do not really affect anyone other than yourself because we have this smart proof task system now. But glad to hear you fixed your machine. /JeppeSN |
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Hi!
Chooka ,You are wrong,he has already found 19!😄
Hope to have a badge this year, have not got ANY primes in February since 2011 and 1 SGS 2014 and 2015 no jersey for those and the badges was unknown until 2018(as far as can remember),correct me if I'm wrong!
I've participatied almost every year since 2010 😒
Keep on searching for small and big Primes!
With regards, H. Sveen
Oslo
LOL... yes I woke just now to see the number climbed to 19. Incredible :)
I feel this year will be your year to find a prime Hans!
Goodluck mate!
Don't look now, that just went up to 20, also Reuben has hit the lead for the Green Jersey
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This isn't 2008. Server processing of small tasks isn't a problem.
I miss the days of PPSE challenges taking the server out, and yet I don't miss them at the same time. It has been nice how stable the server has been despite all of the work being thrown at it. Leading edges are advancing at rapid pace.
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I still remember how exciting TdP 2021 was when everyone was crunching so hard on GFN and PPS(E,DIV,MEGA) and someone got a PRPNet-27, after which everyone thought the highest prime score winner was determined, then someone got a TRP that eventually secured the position lol |
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I seem to show a task running:
"1449762265 864841110 5 Feb 2023 | 4:20:37 UTC 10 Feb 2023 | 5:20:37 UTC
In progress --- --- --- Genefer 17 Mega v4.02 (OCLcudaGFN17MEGA)"
That is not on the host.
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I seem to show a task running:
"1449762265 864841110 5 Feb 2023 | 4:20:37 UTC 10 Feb 2023 | 5:20:37 UTC
In progress --- --- --- Genefer 17 Mega v4.02 (OCLcudaGFN17MEGA)"
That is not on the host.
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=864841110
That can happen sometimes with the exact right sort of communications glitch. Don't worry about it. It won't affect your computers in any way.
Interestingly, there's a server setting that would correct this. "Why don't we do that?'. you might ask. Because the cure is worse than the disease. While it does fix this (a "problem" we don't care about at all), it causes a much worse problem, that we definitely DO care about: it can cause perfectly valid tasks on your computer to be cancelled. So we live with this one.
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I seem to show a task running:
"1449762265 864841110 5 Feb 2023 | 4:20:37 UTC 10 Feb 2023 | 5:20:37 UTC
In progress --- --- --- Genefer 17 Mega v4.02 (OCLcudaGFN17MEGA)"
That is not on the host.
https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=864841110
That can happen sometimes with the exact right sort of communications glitch. Don't worry about it. It won't affect your computers in any way.
Interestingly, there's a server setting that would correct this. "Why don't we do that?'. you might ask. Because the cure is worse than the disease. While it does fix this (a "problem" we don't care about at all), it causes a much worse problem, that we definitely DO care about: it can cause perfectly valid tasks on your computer to be cancelled. So we live with this one.
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bcavnaugh wrote:
My network is fine 55/55 fiber I also restart it once a week. I have no idea why it is only slow on the PG website. As long as I do not go to my Home Page the site is now slow to load, only my home page is slow. It loads half a page up to "Computing and credit" then 4-5 seconds later it then loads the rest. It just might seem slow to me because it has to load the "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours".
It could be the sheer number of pc's you have as well, mine does the same thing and I'm listing 16 pc's but since yours are hidden I'm guessing you have more than that.
It did take 12 Seconds to save or post this post.
Mine does the same thing as well whether I'm on wifi or hardwired and yes mine IS a provider problem and once I can get off of their router I can lower the packet size a little bit which should help my thru put. I have fiber to the router and have 500/200 MBps speeds.
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bcavnaugh wrote:
My network is fine 55/55 fiber I also restart it once a week. I have no idea why it is only slow on the PG website. As long as I do not go to my Home Page the site is now slow to load, only my home page is slow. It loads half a page up to "Computing and credit" then 4-5 seconds later it then loads the rest. It just might seem slow to me because it has to load the "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours".
It could be the sheer number of pc's you have as well, mine does the same thing and I'm listing 16 pc's but since yours are hidden I'm guessing you have more than that.
It did take 12 Seconds to save or post this post.
Mine does the same thing as well whether I'm on wifi or hardwired and yes mine IS a provider problem and once I can get off of their router I can lower the packet size a little bit which should help my thru put. I have fiber to the router and have 500/200 MBps speeds.
None of my Hosts are hidden. I am Not on WiFi.
All my settings got reset (Deleted) for some unknown reason so I had to re-set them all up.
I do not know why my Computers are shown hidden.
I only have 9 Active Hosts now and are all Windows 10 and two Server 2012.
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None of my Hosts are hidden. I am Not on WiFi.
All my settings got reset (Deleted) for some unknown reason so I had to re-set them all up.
I do not know why my Computers are shown hidden.
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None of my Hosts are hidden. I am Not on WiFi.
All my settings got reset (Deleted) for some unknown reason so I had to re-set them all up.
I do not know why my Computers are shown hidden.
I see them now, very nice setup you have there!!
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Will Scott Brown hit 100 primes during TdP 2023?
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Perhaps I haven't been around the forums lately but what's happened to tng this year?
Edit - Oh nevermind. I see what he's going for. All good.
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Perhaps I haven't been around the forums lately but what's happened to tng this year?
If you want all the gossip, the kool kids hang out on Discord these days.
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Perhaps I haven't been around the forums lately but what's happened to tng this year?
If you want all the gossip, the kool kids hang out on Discord these days.
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Will Scott Brown hit 100 primes during TdP 2023?
That is the million dollar question!
Give any of us a million dollars, we'll hit 100 mega primes in what's left of TdP.
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LOl thank you Michael but I'm not that cool :D
(That will be the day I hide my computers ;) )
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Well........I think it's safe to say that Scott has the yellow jersey in the bag! LOL.
Wow... what a sight to see with Scott hovering up all those GFN-16! Must have a ton of cores crunching away there. We aren't even half way yet!!
Feb electricity bill will be horrendous! :D
One more MEGA and I'd be happy to match last year's result.
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Well........I think it's safe to say that Scott has the yellow jersey in the bag! LOL.
Wow... what a sight to see with Scott hovering up all those GFN-16! Must have a ton of cores crunching away there. We aren't even half way yet!!
Feb electricity bill will be horrendous! :D
One more MEGA and I'd be happy to match last year's result.
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Well........I think it's safe to say that Scott has the yellow jersey in the bag! LOL.
Wow... what a sight to see with Scott hovering up all those GFN-16! Must have a ton of cores crunching away there. We aren't even half way yet!!
Feb electricity bill will be horrendous! :D
One more MEGA and I'd be happy to match last year's result.
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Well........I think it's safe to say that Scott has the yellow jersey in the bag! LOL.
Wow... what a sight to see with Scott hovering up all those GFN-16! Must have a ton of cores crunching away there. We aren't even half way yet!!
Feb electricity bill will be horrendous! :D
One more MEGA and I'd be happy to match last year's result.
Mine was $589
Mine was right up there as well
I installed a good solar array in 2021, so not as bad as it could be. :)
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Well........I think it's safe to say that Scott has the yellow jersey in the bag! LOL.
Wow... what a sight to see with Scott hovering up all those GFN-16! Must have a ton of cores crunching away there. We aren't even half way yet!!
Feb electricity bill will be horrendous! :D
One more MEGA and I'd be happy to match last year's result.
Mine was $589
Mine was right up there as well
I installed a good solar array in 2021, so not as bad as it could be. :)
I did the same, 31 Panels but no battery system.
Mine was installed last April 2022
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ROFL!
My solar in sunny Australia does bugger all to help with my bills. I've got a bill right now for the quarter. (3 months) AUD$1477.00 (USD$1028.00) and that's with 6.5Kw in panels.
I'm going to have to slash crunching after the TdP.
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ROFL!
My solar in sunny Australia does bugger all to help with my bills. I've got a bill right now for the quarter. (3 months) AUD$1477.00 (USD$1028.00) and that's with 6.5Kw in panels.
I'm going to have to slash crunching after the TdP.
G'Day Chooka,
If you have not done so already, get a smart meter installed so that your household can use the power generated by your solar panels first and only draw from the grid when you exceed how much you produce or it gets dark (no solar).
Helps with my bills a lot (I also only run the pool during the day, same with the air con, my computers go all the time).
I live south of Sydney and we still get a lot of sun, though not a lot in recent days.
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