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Discovered 4 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,901,390)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,435,770)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,250,307)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,376,486)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,640,761)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,527,509)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,028,655)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,417)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,045,082)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,661,899)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,128,118)321 Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (68,911,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (235,402)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,219,217)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (809,261,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (179,159)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (252,008)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (58,959,990)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (428,149,008)WW (retired) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (234,852,000)
Message 155036 - Posted: 3 Apr 2022 | 15:58:07 UTC

Does this make any sense?

llr321_408373392c

1327585333 27 Mar 2022 | 10:04:51 UTC 27 Mar 2022 | 10:15:45 UTC Completed, waiting for validation [Main task] pending 321 (LLR) v9.01 (mt)

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,570)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,374)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,221)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,012,217)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,337,846)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,044,081)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,064,750)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,051)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,001,295)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,411)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,013,921)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,004,228)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (420,779)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,047,667)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,866,490)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,043,271)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,015,177)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,045,194)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (55,355,287)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,016,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,301,443)
Message 155045 - Posted: 3 Apr 2022 | 20:29:01 UTC - in response to Message 155036.

Does this make any sense?

Yes.

llr321_408373392c

1327585333 27 Mar 2022 | 10:04:51 UTC 27 Mar 2022 | 10:15:45 UTC Completed, waiting for validation [Main task] pending 321 (LLR) v9.01 (mt)

Check main task, there are two results pending instead of one.

Your validation task didn't validated main task. To find out who is guilty (the error can be either - most probably - in main task, either in your validation task), second main task has been sent. Now everybody have to wait until second main task is returned and validated in usual way. Then server will make a decision which tasks to accept.

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Discovered 4 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,901,390)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,435,770)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,250,307)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,376,486)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,640,761)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,527,509)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,028,655)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,417)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,045,082)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,661,899)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,128,118)321 Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (68,911,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (235,402)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,219,217)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (809,261,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (179,159)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (252,008)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (58,959,990)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (428,149,008)WW (retired) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (234,852,000)
Message 155046 - Posted: 4 Apr 2022 | 1:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 155045.

OK, but the second main task is still unsent a week later. I'm guessing it is stuck in some kind of limbo.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,570)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,374)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,221)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,012,217)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,337,846)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,044,081)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,064,750)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,051)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,001,295)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,411)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,013,921)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,004,228)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (420,779)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,047,667)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,866,490)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,043,271)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,015,177)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,045,194)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (55,355,287)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,016,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,301,443)
Message 155047 - Posted: 4 Apr 2022 | 5:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 155046.

OK, but the second main task is still unsent a week later. I'm guessing it is stuck in some kind of limbo.

It's not much activity on 321 now.

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 12 primes in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,621)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,296,858)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,023,333)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,047,133)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,579,893)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (83,269,628)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (140,631,387)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,048,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 155149 - Posted: 17 Apr 2022 | 12:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 155047.

OK, but the second main task is still unsent a week later. I'm guessing it is stuck in some kind of limbo.


It's not much activity on 321 now.


See now that might be a reason to have a new thread or even a new column on the main page, these Projects don't have much activity right now so it could be easier to get tasks validated more quickly, fewer users can mean not waiting for 5 people to get, keep a long time, then abort a task you have already completed. A percentage of activity column for each Project showing the percentage of in/out tasks compared to the other Projects. ie 321 might get a 5% while PPSE might get a 85%.

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,509,886)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,619,286)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,433,680)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,443,837)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (45,890,173)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,464,143)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,433,563)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,172,707)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,349,884)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,584,042)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,886)321 Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,256,050)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,656,037)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,009,610)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (502,721,222)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,165,888)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,071,454)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (84,367,061)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,018,281)WW (retired) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,000,000)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,762,384)
Message 155150 - Posted: 17 Apr 2022 | 19:24:26 UTC - in response to Message 155149.

OK, but the second main task is still unsent a week later. I'm guessing it is stuck in some kind of limbo.


It's not much activity on 321 now.


See now that might be a reason to have a new thread or even a new column on the main page, these Projects don't have much activity right now so it could be easier to get tasks validated more quickly, fewer users can mean not waiting for 5 people to get, keep a long time, then abort a task you have already completed. A percentage of activity column for each Project showing the percentage of in/out tasks compared to the other Projects. ie 321 might get a 5% while PPSE might get a 85%.

I don't think activity percentage is meaningful because the time to completion varies widely by subproject and by BOINC client.

I also don't think that current tasks in progress (in 15 minute intervals) is suitable because it's unstable due to user actions such as downloading a bunch of work in one interval and cancelling them in the next interval, which is unrelated to real client CPU activity.

What would be better is ("Tasks completed by day" x "average runtime in hours")/24 for each subproject to show the average number of tasks getting active client CPU time.

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 12 primes in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,621)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,296,858)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,023,333)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,047,133)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,579,893)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (83,269,628)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (140,631,387)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,048,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 155154 - Posted: 18 Apr 2022 | 11:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 155150.

OK, but the second main task is still unsent a week later. I'm guessing it is stuck in some kind of limbo.


It's not much activity on 321 now.


See now that might be a reason to have a new thread or even a new column on the main page, these Projects don't have much activity right now so it could be easier to get tasks validated more quickly, fewer users can mean not waiting for 5 people to get, keep a long time, then abort a task you have already completed. A percentage of activity column for each Project showing the percentage of in/out tasks compared to the other Projects. ie 321 might get a 5% while PPSE might get a 85%.


I don't think activity percentage is meaningful because the time to completion varies widely by subproject and by BOINC client.

I also don't think that current tasks in progress (in 15 minute intervals) is suitable because it's unstable due to user actions such as downloading a bunch of work in one interval and cancelling them in the next interval, which is unrelated to real client CPU activity.

What would be better is ("Tasks completed by day" x "average runtime in hours")/24 for each subproject to show the average number of tasks getting active client CPU time.


That sounds like a better idea.

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