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Message 154251 - Posted: 16 Feb 2022 | 11:46:11 UTC

In a nutshell I want to put a 280mm radiator into a mATX case.

Right now I have a Ryzen 7 3700X with the default Wraith Prism cooler in a Q300L case. The Wraith Prism is starting to fail after 2 years of 24/7 crunching. Right now the computer is sitting in a common room so noise is not much of an issue but I would like to relocate it to a bedroom thus the need for reduced noise. So I want to look for a quiet cooling solution (I am considering the BeQuiet Pure Loop 280) in a mATX case (I am resigned to getting a new case). If a reasonable solution is found I will likely build 2 new computers in a similar fashion.

Questions:
1) Does anyone have an example of a 280mm in a mATX case? 240mm have more options in terms of cases, so are 240mm AIO coolers that much noisier than 280mm coolers?

2) I would like to locate the cooler on top rather than the front. However, the front seems to have more options. Is there much of a cooling or noise difference between the two locations?

3) Any suggestions on mATX cases that will likely work. I have reviewed a bunch of them already and they all seem to have one fail or another...not long enough for 280mm, not space enough for radiator and fans above the motherboard, etc.

Maybe I am pushing the limits but I need to try instead of being pigeon holed by the manufactures.
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Message 154252 - Posted: 16 Feb 2022 | 13:34:08 UTC - in response to Message 154251.

In a nutshell I want to put a 280mm radiator into a mATX case.

Right now I have a Ryzen 7 3700X with the default Wraith Prism cooler in a Q300L case. The Wraith Prism is starting to fail after 2 years of 24/7 crunching. Right now the computer is sitting in a common room so noise is not much of an issue but I would like to relocate it to a bedroom thus the need for reduced noise. So I want to look for a quiet cooling solution (I am considering the BeQuiet Pure Loop 280) in a mATX case (I am resigned to getting a new case). If a reasonable solution is found I will likely build 2 new computers in a similar fashion.

Questions:
1) Does anyone have an example of a 280mm in a mATX case? 240mm have more options in terms of cases, so are 240mm AIO coolers that much noisier than 280mm coolers?

2) I would like to locate the cooler on top rather than the front. However, the front seems to have more options. Is there much of a cooling or noise difference between the two locations?

3) Any suggestions on mATX cases that will likely work. I have reviewed a bunch of them already and they all seem to have one fail or another...not long enough for 280mm, not space enough for radiator and fans above the motherboard, etc.

Maybe I am pushing the limits but I need to try instead of being pigeon holed by the manufactures.


This might help, it's a listing of their best 10 matx cases:
https://techguided.com/best-micro-atx-cases/

Another consideration is to go bigger on the power supply and better quality too, cheap psu's put out alot of heat while the Gold or Platinum versions give off alot less heat, going bigger means even less heat as the psu doesn't have to work hard to provide the power.

I had a roomful of pc's in my old house and the bill to cool them was huge, but as I started swapping over to bigger and better quality psu's they put off less heat and therefore less money to cool them.

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Message 154255 - Posted: 16 Feb 2022 | 17:16:09 UTC

I guess one question I have for you is: why water cooling? Is it strictly for the noise?
If so then you may want to look into a tower style air cooler which will fit in that case. Something like a Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 would be a good fit in your existing case. A tower style cooler and an AIO are going to use the same fans generally and the AIO will also have a pump where the air cooler will not.
The noise difference between 140mm and 120mm is non existannt unto itself. What matters is the speed at which the fan is going.
280mm AIO's can be difficult to fit in cases in general. In many cases they interfere with motherboard components when top mounted. There are some cases, like the Lian Li o11 dynamic mini, that should be able to hold them. There is very little cooling difference between top and front mount when you look at the system as a whole. Front mount gets you a cooler CPU with a warmer GPU and top mount gets you a cooler GPU with a warmer CPU, but the differences are not significant.
For the best silence you are going to want to experiment with setting custom fan curves in BIOS or in software.
I also echo what Mikey mentioned about a good power supply. A good quality power supply that is well over the wattage of the system will not have to work hard and will make less heat and less noise.
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