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Why does the LLR2 tasks not show the Proof tasks in this list?
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It takes time for the servers to generate the proof task, so you will see "proof task not available" shortly after the main task results are uploaded to the servers. | |
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You do NOT understand my question.
Under "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours" I have uploaded several SOB Proof Tasks, but the count only shows Main Tasks.
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These are the proof or Double Check tasks. The link that says [Main task], brings you to the task that you double check on.
The time also provides a clue that these are the shorter proof tasks.
I read that for LLR2 tasks, one long workunit is generated, sent to a user, and when the user uploads their results, the servers generate a short proof task. It is also a different workunit, and so there is the link to navigate between the main and the proof tasks. | |
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Seventeen or Bust Eeyore 2 2 100.00
I have done SEVERAL Proof tasks, this shows only Main tasks. Why does this not show both like on other projects without LLR2? Like in the PPSE example.
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Why does the LLR2 tasks not show the Proof tasks in this list?
I understand that since one is always first in LLR2 tasks, what matter for these tasks is throughput.
The higher the throughput, the bigger is the chance of finding a prime.
For non-LLR2 tasks, one would be interested in the "1st percentage" figure.
The higher the number, the bigger is the chance of one being the 1st finder of a prime or WW or AP.
I would guess that the "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours" feature is aimed to help one fine tune the settings for maximizing throughput (of LLR2 tasks) and/or 1st percentage of non-LLR2 tasks.
LLR2 proof tasks are not important in such context.
As always, I might be wrong and someone else will correct me.
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Seventeen or Bust Eeyore 2 2 100.00
I have done SEVERAL Proof tasks, this shows only Main tasks. Why does this not show both like on other projects without LLR2? Like in the PPSE example.
PPSE (LLR) Kanga 270 177 65.56
Proof tasks are excluded intentionally so that one can see a truer representation of the times on large LLR2 tasks to allow a user to fine tune their throughput (since they are not competing for "firsts" in these cases). This is similar (as I recall) to the decision to exclude proof tasks from the avg. completion time computations on the select a project/venues page...including them leads to misleading results for most users purposes.
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This does say "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours", maybe add a sub-part for the proof tasks? Personally when seeing this, I am interested in all my tasks that were returned. I know some days I am returning quite a few proof tasks and it would be nice to know the count.
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Michael Goetz Volunteer moderator Project administrator
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This does say "Tasks returned in the last 24 hours", maybe add a sub-part for the proof tasks? Personally when seeing this, I am interested in all my tasks that were returned. I know some days I am returning quite a few proof tasks and it would be nice to know the count.
The purpose of those statistics is to help people with their "firsts". If anything, it probably should be removed altogether for LLR2 projects, since it's not relevant.
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