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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,928,254)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,095,072)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (46,223)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,466,151)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,523,867)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,691,697)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,193,192)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,473,726)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,674)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,652,256)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,110,130)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,604)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (182,034)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (678,662)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (25,350)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,661,120)
Message 9050 - Posted: 16 May 2008 | 5:38:07 UTC
Last modified: 16 May 2008 | 5:38:38 UTC

Could someone direct me to who and where they are doing the TPS sieving. I would like to get involved. Any chance for PG to start doing it under Boinc?
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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 9052 - Posted: 16 May 2008 | 10:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 9050.

Could someone direct me to who and where they are doing the TPS sieving. I would like to get involved. Any chance for PG to start doing it under Boinc?


Try here.

At this time there is no plan to do sieve work for TPS on PG.

/Lennart

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,319)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,490)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (25,838)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,418)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,427,282)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (27,478)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (142,140)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (574,396)
Message 9066 - Posted: 16 May 2008 | 22:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 9052.

Could someone direct me to who and where they are doing the TPS sieving. I would like to get involved. Any chance for PG to start doing it under Boinc?


Try here.

At this time there is no plan to do sieve work for TPS on PG.

/Lennart


I find that rather daft because they will never get to optimal sieve depth with their current setup while primegrid would make it a lot closer to optimal which would save MANY hours of LLRing.

~BoB
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,928,254)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,095,072)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (46,223)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,466,151)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,523,867)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,691,697)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,193,192)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,473,726)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,674)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,652,256)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,110,130)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,604)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (182,034)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (678,662)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (25,350)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,661,120)
Message 9067 - Posted: 16 May 2008 | 22:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 9052.

Could someone direct me to who and where they are doing the TPS sieving. I would like to get involved. Any chance for PG to start doing it under Boinc?


Try here.

At this time there is no plan to do sieve work for TPS on PG.

/Lennart



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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (235,773)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (512,812)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (508,431)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (71,624)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (82,218)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,077)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,755,489)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (90,725)
Message 9070 - Posted: 17 May 2008 | 8:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 9066.

I find that rather daft because they will never get to optimal sieve depth with their current setup while primegrid would make it a lot closer to optimal which would save MANY hours of LLRing.


Please take in mind that a factor only saves about 5 minutes, so optimal sieve depth is reached very quickly, and it's very likely that it's not worth the trouble to set up another sieve project for.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,319)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,490)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (25,838)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,418)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,427,282)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (27,478)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (142,140)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (574,396)
Message 9078 - Posted: 17 May 2008 | 19:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 9070.
Last modified: 17 May 2008 | 19:58:35 UTC

I find that rather daft because they will never get to optimal sieve depth with their current setup while primegrid would make it a lot closer to optimal which would save MANY hours of LLRing.


Please take in mind that a factor only saves about 5 minutes, so optimal sieve depth is reached very quickly, and it's very likely that it's not worth the trouble to set up another sieve project for.


TPS optimal sieve depth... 25000T Currently only @ 5000T or 1/5th of the way.

Granted with the sieve file being split up it will be a lot lower for each section but overall it saves a TON of time!

~320 k/M now vs ~292k/M at optimal

28*5 min = 140 min /M * 58890 M left = 8244600 Min or 15 YEARS of cpu time SAVED by being @ optimal depth

And thats only for whats left to do!

14000000 Minutes or 26 Years of CPU time would be saved if the whole thing was done to optimal sieve depth!

(all info was found either on the TPS range stats or the sieving reservations page @ tps)

~BoB
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Eliminated 3 conjecture "k"s321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (186,594)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,665)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,416)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (504,111)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (513,785)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,944)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,790,118)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,099)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (46,235)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (708,706)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (133,626)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,527)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,729,132)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (132,786,707)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,317)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (620,991)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (418,876)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,795,613)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,329,123)
Message 10070 - Posted: 12 Aug 2008 | 18:32:29 UTC

Whats the status now of TPS?
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PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,240)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,735)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (88,757)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,174)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,749)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (98,594)
Message 10081 - Posted: 13 Aug 2008 | 8:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 9078.


28*5 min = 140 min /M * 58890 M left = 8244600 Min or 15 YEARS of cpu time SAVED by being @ optimal depth

And thats only for whats left to do!
~BoB


Yeah, but sieving that range would sure take 15 cpu years, too. So, there is no point in sieving further.

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Message 10092 - Posted: 13 Aug 2008 | 20:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 10081.


28*5 min = 140 min /M * 58890 M left = 8244600 Min or 15 YEARS of cpu time SAVED by being @ optimal depth

And thats only for whats left to do!
~BoB


Yeah, but sieving that range would sure take 15 cpu years, too. So, there is no point in sieving further.


No it would not take that long at all... it would take around 5 cpu years I would estimate to get there. because if it took the same amount of time to find a factor as to do an LLR that would be optimal sieve depth and it currently is nowhere near that.

BTW now that we have PPS under project staging in boinc could we not do a similar thing with TPS?

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 10093 - Posted: 13 Aug 2008 | 22:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 10092.
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No it would not take that long at all... it would take around 5 cpu years I would estimate to get there. because if it took the same amount of time to find a factor as to do an LLR that would be optimal sieve depth and it currently is nowhere near that.

BTW now that we have PPS under project staging in boinc could we not do a similar thing with TPS?

~BoB


I am still sieving PPS & 321 and becuse we run at least 2*LLR on each number we sieve to time is 2*LLR time

I have tested some number and a number that take 20 000 sec to LLR we sieve to we have 40 000 sec betwen factors found. (thats our goal )

/Lennart
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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 10411 - Posted: 26 Aug 2008 | 1:09:05 UTC
Last modified: 26 Aug 2008 | 1:10:02 UTC

The sieving is open again on TPS.

You find it here.


/Lennart
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