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Hi guys. What's the best project to find a Prime? Can i leave all projects enabled or should i enable only 1 (or more) specific project?
Any suggestion?
Anyway how many time took for u to find your 1st Prime?
Have i a chance to find a Prime with a GT 710 and GT 1030? I mean...in a reasonable time :-D |
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Nick  Send message
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Hi Luca - Welcome to Primegrid!
You can mostly only search from primes using your CPU and PPSE is probably the fastest.
You can search for primes with your GPU on generalised fermat project and GFN15 will be the fastest.
Your GT710 won't be suitable. Your GT1030 may be suitable? |
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Hi guys. What's the best project to find a Prime? Can i leave all projects enabled or should i enable only 1 (or more) specific project?
Any suggestion?
Anyway how many time took for u to find your 1st Prime?
Have i a chance to find a Prime with a GT 710 and GT 1030? I mean...in a reasonable time :-D
GT1030 for GFN16 and CPU for PPSE. That's a definite combination.
I haven't found a prime either :-(
I suggest you stop your work on the sieves right now and turn to the above combo.
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GFN-14: 50103906^16384+1
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Thanks. ATM i'm on PPSE with CPU and GFN16 with GPU.
I will also try the GFN15 tomorrow with some testing.
More advices are always welcome guys :-D |
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mikey Send message
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Thanks. ATM i'm on PPSE with CPU and GFN16 with GPU.
I will also try the GFN15 tomorrow with some testing.
More advices are always welcome guys :-D
More computers gives you more chances, there is a thread somewhere about using a 'virtual gpu' too.
Welcome to Prime Grid!!! |
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More computers gives you more chances, there is a thread somewhere about using a 'virtual gpu' too.
I think this might help:
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8839
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8852
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Since it hasn't been mentioned already, is the goal just to find any prime number, or specifically is the target to find one that is top 5000 known?
AP27 if you don't care at all about size. This can find sequences small primes quickly. The individual primes themselves are not of significant note.
Bigger but not top 5000 primes would be GFN15 for GPU and SGS for CPU.
For top 5000 primes, that would be GFN16 and PPSE.
Based on my joining of this site and my first recorded (then top 5000) prime, it was somewhere under 3 months. |
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Since it hasn't been mentioned already, is the goal just to find any prime number, or specifically is the target to find one that is top 5000 known?
AP27 if you don't care at all about size. This can find sequences small primes quickly. The individual primes themselves are not of significant note.
Bigger but not top 5000 primes would be GFN15 for GPU and SGS for CPU.
For top 5000 primes, that would be GFN16 and PPSE.
Based on my joining of this site and my first recorded (then top 5000) prime, it was somewhere under 3 months.
Bro I think that was 12 years ago..???
The sizes are drastically different now.
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Since it hasn't been mentioned already, is the goal just to find any prime number, or specifically is the target to find one that is top 5000 known?
AP27 if you don't care at all about size. This can find sequences small primes quickly. The individual primes themselves are not of significant note.
Bigger but not top 5000 primes would be GFN15 for GPU and SGS for CPU.
For top 5000 primes, that would be GFN16 and PPSE.
Based on my joining of this site and my first recorded (then top 5000) prime, it was somewhere under 3 months.
Bro I think that was 12 years ago..???
The sizes are drastically different now.
That depends on the project. SGS is very similar in size to what it was over the last few years due to the nature of the project (that is why it dropped off of the Top 5k list despite being larger than PPSE when the current iteration of SGS started). GFN projects also increase in size relatively slowly such that the differences from a couple of years ago or so would be modest (and much of the speed difference is often driven by a shift to slower applications as the "b" limit increases, GFN15, 16, & 17 Low each switched to the slowest application transform about 3 to 4 years ago, GFN17 Mega was always on the slowest transform). |
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KellenSend message
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Hi guys. What's the best project to find a Prime? Can i leave all projects enabled or should i enable only 1 (or more) specific project?
Any suggestion?
Anyway how many time took for u to find your 1st Prime?
Have i a chance to find a Prime with a GT 710 and GT 1030? I mean...in a reasonable time :-D
For the GT710 you can run GFN15 if you'd like. The last time I ran GFN15 with my GT710 they were taking about 15 minutes per task, meaning an average of about 83 days to get either a prime find or a double check with that GPU. I also run 2 GT1030s (and used to run 3 of them) and GFN15 tasks take about 2.5 minutes meaning you should get either a prime find or a double check every two weeks on average.
I should note that I did, in fact, find a prime with the GT710. It ran for a long time and I was lucky enough to return it first, but I would not expect this to be a common occurrence. You're much more likely to be the doublechecker with the GT710 than the prime finder.
If you are interested in finding primes and would like some smaller ones that run faster, you can also check out the Private GFN Server at http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7985. We are looking for GFN14 primes there and your chances of finding a prime in any given stretch of time are much higher with those small, short tasks. Just make sure to set your cache to 0 so that you download them and they get tested almost immediately.
Enjoy, and good luck!
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Just for info:
GFN 16 = 30m with GT 710
GFN 16 = 10m with GT 1030
GFN 15 = 2m with GT 1030.
Soon i will add a GTX 1060. Maybe i reach 3m for task in GFN 16. |
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Dave  Send message
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Luca
Just to bring your attention to this again:
https://www.primegrid.com/show_badges.php?userid=1271037
You are using the forums under an account to which your machines are not attached. |
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Nick  Send message
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Hi Luca,
I am confused - the information I can see is that you do not have computers working on PG and no work has been done. You need to do work to find primes! You need to jump in and have a go - and obsession with the project you may find. |
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Dave  Send message
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Nick
The link I posted is to the account to which the PCs are connected. |
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mikey Send message
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Luca
Just to bring your attention to this again:
https://www.primegrid.com/show_badges.php?userid=1271037
You are using the forums under an account to which your machines are not attached.
So this thread is the ONLY one he can post in then as his RAC is zero? |
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So this thread is the ONLY one he can post in then as his RAC is zero?
The Problems and Help section is the only section visible if you have 0 total credit.
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Just for info:
GFN 16 = 30m with GT 710
GFN 16 = 10m with GT 1030
GFN 15 = 2m with GT 1030.
Soon i will add a GTX 1060. Maybe i reach 3m for task in GFN 16.
GFN15+Vega8=5min
GFN16+Vega8=15min
The Problems and Help section is the only section visible if you have 0 total credit.
But you don't. You and I, and all others who posted in this thread have lots of credit. I think it was his error. With this dummy account, he can only post here.
My explanation:
He attached to PG in BOINC, but he logged in to PrimeGrid by creating another username.
To correct your above statement,
if you have 0 credit, you can only post in this forum.
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GFN-14: 50103906^16384+1
Proth "SoB": 44243*2^440969+1
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Dave  Send message
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So this thread is the ONLY one he can post in then as his RAC is zero?
The Problems and Help section is the only section visible if you have 0 total credit.
He has 2 accounts, the link I posted has the credit so logging into the form under that name will give him normal full forum access. |
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Bur Volunteer tester
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You can check the Stats page for each project to see how many primes were discovered on average in the past. That gives you some idea how things will proceed, even though primes generally get more scarce with increasing digits.
You can also check average computation times on the properties page where you select which subprojects to run and combine this with the above mentioned data to calculate how long it takes to find a prime - approximately.
Another thing to take into account is, are you after primes for listing in T5K, i.e. primes that have at least 450,000 or so digits? Then don't run GF-15 or SGS. The main page lists the current max digits for each subproject and the respective entry position for T5K. Also, are you fine with only being the double checker? If not, some projects are dominated by fast computers and should be avoided - you can find this only by trying it out.
I have my old i3-2120 almost exclusively on SGS as there's the good chance of 1-(1/e) or almost 64% to find a prime every 14,000 tasks, which in my case is every 100 days or a bit less. It won't be eligible for entry in T5K, but I get about 45% first and there's always the slim chance of actually finding a twin or even SG prime. I actually found one after 7500 tasks, not a twin/SG/T5K prime, but still fun.
Long story short, it depends on what you're after. You can use the stats page and the properties page and the main page to find all the data required for a decision (other than 1st percentage for you hardware of course).
One last thing, you might want to read about the different conjectures like Sierpinski or Riesel or special primes such as Cullen or Woodall. Even though finding a prime in those subprojects is very rare, if you find one it's a big deal even though it might not be a really large prime. When I started I was only interested in finding any prime quickly, while now those special primes are much more interesting to me. |
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Dave  Send message
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Bur, this ship sailed. He's on the challenge board for the July challenge. |
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