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Will we ever have a screensaver for PrimeGrid? Please?
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Just kidding. I'm not going to ask for a screensaver. I'm going to give you one :)
See Screensaver screenshot (The titlebar says SDL_app, but I changed that since I made the image; now it shows the workunit name)
The screensaver is only for TPS LLR application, but others may follow. I will post a beta soon (Windows only). The screensaver does work on Linux, it's just trickier to compile a binary that works on all machines.
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Beta: primegrid-screensaver-0.9.1.zip
I'm assuming you already know how to install applications with the anonymous platform mechanism. Note that if you have work from other Primegrid subprojects (not TPS), there is a chance the workunits will get trashed on startup, because BOINC doesn't find any application to run them! TPS tasks that were already in progress might have problems too.
To just test the graphics, you can also run screensaver.exe completely separate from BOINC. It will "fake" progress by moving continuously (simulating a 5-minute workunit).
Although I'm interested in reports of how it works within BOINC, both in a window (Show graphics) and fullscreen (actual screensaver), and both BOINC 5 and BOINC 6.
Have fun testing!
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Awesome, thanks a ton for having a screensaver made for this wonderful project. I for one will be testing it and will post the interests of how it works with Boinc and the PPS Beta testing, etc. I will do my best to help.
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The progress bar used to move strange: took a while of processing for it to start moving, and reached the end before the workunit actually finished. This is now fixed.
EDIT: But note I didn't update the .zip! Expect a new release later.
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The progress bar used to move strange: took a while of processing for it to start moving, and reached the end before the workunit actually finished. This is now fixed.
EDIT: But note I didn't update the .zip! Expect a new release later.
it works fine on vista ultimate 64bit.
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Should I keep the random colors or use the PrimeGrid logo colors?
No, I won't make it a user setting. At least not yet. Pick one :)
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Should I keep the random colors or use the PrimeGrid logo colors? (here's the palette I used)
More info: It's currently implemented by having the four colors on the left and the four on the right from the palette I linked, and interpolating between them (within each row). So the actual "palette" is more like this:
Any color from that gradient is chosen.
The dark ones don't look very nice in the numbers... Suggestions?
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So the actual "palette" is more like this:
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Any color from that gradient is chosen.
The dark ones don't look very nice in the numbers... Suggestions?
I tried removing the bottom row from that palette, and it seems to look better. I don't think I'll need to remove the leftmost colors.
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Any chance of a crimson type color?
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No, I won't make it a user setting. At least not yet. Pick one :)
PG colors :)
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I have 3 screens side by side, so effectivly a resoliution of (3*1280) x 1024.
In window mode (I don't have TPS running on that box) it only uses the 2nd screen.
1st and 3rd screens are blank,
I would have expected to see something as well on thse screens.
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New beta! I fixed the problem with the progress bar, and added the PrimeGrid colors.
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0.9.2 with PrimeGrid colors.
0.9.2 with random colors like the first version.
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New beta! I fixed the problem with the progress bar, and added the PrimeGrid colors.
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0.9.2 with PrimeGrid colors.
0.9.2 with random colors like the first version.
They both link to the same file...and when uncompressing, it says the zip file is corrupt.
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They both link to the same file...and when uncompressing, it says the zip file is corrupt.
What the...
*fixes*
Fixed links. Files seem OK to me...
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I tried removing the bottom row from that palette, and it seems to look better. I don't think I'll need to remove the leftmost colors.
Oops, this didn't make it to the beta I posted! >_<
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They both link to the same file...and when uncompressing, it says the zip file is corrupt.
What the...
*fixes*
Fixed links. Files seem OK to me...
Links fixed. However, I'm still getting invalid or corrupted zip file on both. I'm using Win XP.
EDIT: I can still access the original zip folder in the second post on this thread and that works fine. It's just the new files I'm having trouble with.
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Links fixed. However, I'm still getting invalid or corrupted zip file on both. I'm using Win XP.
and for two other people I asked to test.
EDIT: I can still access the original zip folder in the second post on this thread and that works fine. It's just the new files I'm having trouble with.
The original zip was in PrimeGrid server; these are on my computer.
I just disabled something on the server that *might* be the cause... See if they work now.
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Links fixed. However, I'm still getting invalid or corrupted zip file on both. I'm using Win XP.
and for two other people I asked to test.
EDIT: I can still access the original zip folder in the second post on this thread and that works fine. It's just the new files I'm having trouble with.
The original zip was in PrimeGrid server; these are on my computer.
I just disabled something on the server that *might* be the cause... See if they work now.
YEAH! That worked...for both!
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New beta! I fixed the problem with the progress bar, and added the PrimeGrid colors.
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0.9.2 with PrimeGrid colors.
0.9.2 with random colors like the first version.
PG colors for me...minus the "brownish"/"dark greyish" ones. I look forward to the next release with those missing so I can get a better idea.
The expanded blue glow in the background looks much better...especially in window mode. Although, in full screen mode, the left and right sides still have a lot of black. However, I think that's OK for now. The only solution I see is to make it an oval which I don't know how that would look. It may be a bit odd...but then again, it may not. :)
EDIT: Also, good work with the progress bar. Progress begins and ends nicely now. Testing with Win XP 32 bit, BOINC 5.10.45
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0.9.2 with PrimeGrid colors.
PG colors for me...minus the "brownish"/"dark greyish" ones. I look forward to the next release with those missing so I can get a better idea.
0.9.3 with PG colors, dark ones taken out.
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When just running screensaver.exe I get runtime errors - requested that the runtime terminate it in an unusual way, or something.
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When just running screensaver.exe I get runtime errors - requested that the runtime terminate it in an unusual way, or something.
You need to have 2 .png files, included in the first .zip.
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When just running screensaver.exe I get runtime errors - requested that the runtime terminate it in an unusual way, or something.
You need to have 2 .png files, included in the first .zip.
I now added the PNG files to the later zips.
Note you still need the first version if you want to run it within BOINC.
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Ahha. In that case, I can confirm that it works in both windowed and fullscreen mode on my windows XP SP2.
Now, do the numbers mean anything?
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Now, do the numbers mean anything?
No. They're just random.
...well, not yet :)
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Heh.
Perhaps other information could be added - current workunit, # of credits, etc.
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0.9.3 with PG colors, dark ones taken out.
Still only the middle one of my 3 screens is used.
Maximized one 1 screen everything is fine.
Is there somewhere the screen size hard coded?
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Still only the middle one of my 3 screens is used.
Maximized one 1 screen everything is fine.
Is there somewhere the screen size hard coded?
The initial size is 512x512. I have no control over the size after that. Maximizing is up to the operating system.
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Very strange.
How do you calc where (y-pos) the num,bers beginn to fall?
Maybe a random value from the middle of the y-axis?
If I wait long enough I get on the right side of my 1st screen sometimes number s (once in 5 min?)
So maybe it is the way you place them depending on the middle (y-axis) and due to the fact my screen is very wide, it is very unlikely I get something one my right (and left) screen)
The position of the progress bar seems to be strange as well.
I made the window very long (full hight, 1/3 width) and the bar is not at the bottom any more it is somewhere below the middle.
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How do you calc where (y-pos) the num,bers beginn to fall?
Maybe a random value from the middle of the y-axis?
If I wait long enough I get on the right side of my 1st screen sometimes number s (once in 5 min?)
So maybe it is the way you place them depending on the middle (y-axis) and due to the fact my screen is very wide, it is very unlikely I get something one my right (and left) screen)
The position of the progress bar seems to be strange as well.
I made the window very long (full hight, 1/3 width) and the bar is not at the bottom any more it is somewhere below the middle.
Oh, now I know what you're referring to...
Anything too far from 1:1 ratio will look weird. Most screens are 4:3 which isn't too far. Three normal screens make for 12:3 ratio; yours are even widescreen!
It would be a bit tricky to make the numbers cover the whole window no matter the width... I would need to put numbers on a big area, even though on a single 4:3 screen most are invisible, and I'd have to add more numbers to keep "density". Or, I could make the numbers appear within the screen size, so if you resize the window, in a few seconds everything will be covered again. But then I need to dynamically change how many numbers are shown. Otherwise if the window is small, it gets cluttered full of numbers in a small area.
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You got the point.
Solution (if any) is up to you.
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I get a server timeout message when try to download the 0.93 version.
0.9.3 with PG colors, dark ones taken out.
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I get a server timeout message when try to download the 0.93 version.
"Server" down while I attempt installing Kubuntu on it...
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There is a possible memory leak in 5.09 (tps), running riesel sieve (4 tasks on a quad) and 4 tps taking about 1,9GB RAM, thats odd, got also some performance issues (cannot open a local html file), without tps all is fine (also a mix of tps/riesel sieve).
4x RS = 800MB RAM
4x RS + 4xTPS = 1,9GB RAM!
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There is a possible memory leak in 5.09 (tps), running riesel sieve (4 tasks on a quad) and 4 tps taking about 1,9GB RAM, thats odd, got also some performance issues (cannot open a local html file), without tps all is fine (also a mix of tps/riesel sieve).
4x RS = 800MB RAM
4x RS + 4xTPS = 1,9GB RAM!
I don't see the leak in the PCs I now have access to. Which of the applications is leaking (wrapper/llr)? Are all 4 tasks leaking, or just a single one? If so, what is the task ID?
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There is a possible memory leak in 5.09 (tps), running riesel sieve (4 tasks on a quad) and 4 tps taking about 1,9GB RAM, thats odd, got also some performance issues (cannot open a local html file), without tps all is fine (also a mix of tps/riesel sieve).
4x RS = 800MB RAM
4x RS + 4xTPS = 1,9GB RAM!
I don't see the leak in the PCs I now have access to. Which of the applications is leaking (wrapper/llr)? Are all 4 tasks leaking, or just a single one? If so, what is the task ID?
Yes, I checked this now, ~200MB RAM per tps task (9,66MB tps app, 1,9MB wrapper).
You can pick up any of 5.09 tasks
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Yes, I checked this now, ~200MB RAM per tps task (9,66MB tps app, 1,9MB wrapper).
9,66MB+1,9MB=11,56MB != 200MB
So... which of the apps is leaking?
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Yes, I checked this now, ~200MB RAM per tps task (9,66MB tps app, 1,9MB wrapper).
9,66MB+1,9MB=11,56MB != 200MB
So... which of the apps is leaking?
I think its "primegrid_llr_wrapper_5.09_windows_intelx86.exe", I dont using screensaver.
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I can't reproduce the memory leak; does anyone else have it?
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I'm still using primegrid llr wrapper 5.08a, according to taskmanager, with no memory issues. Doesn't go over 1.5meg.
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I just came across this thread and noticed the same problem.
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1150/pagefilexg8.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1150/pagefilexg8.a43935ac84.jpg
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I just came across this thread and noticed the same problem.
That doesn't give too much info; can you post a screenshot of the Processes tab of task manager?
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Yeah thats a great question and can you please post what other tasks you have on your list of to-do for the screen saver? Purdy please lol :)
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I'll post another SS as soon as I get some TPS work, currently stuffed with 321 WU's. A quick look at the task manager shows only 235MB used for page file for my quad core and 425MB used on my dual core.
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can you please post what other tasks you have on your list of to-do for the screen saver? Purdy please lol :)
I don't have such list. I haven't touched the screensaver code since the last release :) Been busy with other stuff.
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@ Nicolas - I don't have the screensaver enabled on this computer.
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I just came across this thread and noticed the same problem.
That doesn't give too much info; can you post a screenshot of the Processes tab of task manager?
@ Nicolas - I don't have the screensaver enabled on this computer.
That's just RAM usage. Could you please post one more variation of this screenshot?
But please go first to View/Select Columns and add "Peak Memory Usage" and "Virtual Memory Size" columns.
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BTW, the whole screen is not necessay, <ALT><PrtScr> of the Task Manager's processes window is just enough. (It contains just text, best saved in *.png format.)
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@ Nicolas - I don't have the screensaver enabled on this computer.
I don't see anything wrong on those screenshots. Primegrid apps are using less than 9MB each. boinc.exe is using 25MB which is expected for the huge amount of tasks you have. (I'm surprised boincmgr isn't using a lot more RAM and *CPU*).
The processes listed there don't add up to the 1400MB of virtual memory you have in use. Do you have other user accounts on that computer? Click the "Show processes from all users" checkbox and see if there is a huge process from someone else. Or maybe the process memory is swapped out; enable "Virtual memory" column like Pepo said.
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As I have written here
TPS with screensaver has definitively a memory leak somewhere or something else while Iam having performance issues too if I suspend all tsp units and run another project on windows xp 32bit.
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@ Nicolas - I don't have the screensaver enabled on this computer.
I don't see anything wrong on those screenshots. Primegrid apps are using less than 9MB each. boinc.exe is using 25MB which is expected for the huge amount of tasks you have. (I'm surprised boincmgr isn't using a lot more RAM and *CPU*).
The processes listed there don't add up to the 1400MB of virtual memory you have in use. Do you have other user accounts on that computer? Click the "Show processes from all users" checkbox and see if there is a huge process from someone else. Or maybe the process memory is swapped out; enable "Virtual memory" column like Pepo said.
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@ Nicolas - I don't have the screensaver enabled on this computer.
Primegrid apps are using less than 9MB [RAM] each. boinc.exe is using 25MB which is expected for the huge amount of tasks you have.
The processes listed there don't add up to the 1400MB of virtual memory you have in use. [...] Or maybe the process memory is swapped out; enable "Virtual memory" column like Pepo said.
Ok, I've added in the requested info.
Well, now it's clearly visible - 300 MB memory allocated per task.
The question is, whether this amount rises during the progress (-> leak), or is stable at 300,644K (-> caused by itself (it simply allocated that much at some point) or environment (some loaded or injected DLLs?)).
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@ Nicolas - I don't have the screensaver enabled on this computer.
Primegrid apps are using less than 9MB [RAM] each. boinc.exe is using 25MB which is expected for the huge amount of tasks you have.
The processes listed there don't add up to the 1400MB of virtual memory you have in use. [...] Or maybe the process memory is swapped out; enable "Virtual memory" column like Pepo said.
Ok, I've added in the requested info.
Well, now it's clearly visible - 300 MB memory allocated per task.
The question is, whether this amount rises during the progress (-> leak), or is stable at 300,644K (-> caused by itself (it simply allocated that much at some point) or environment (some loaded or injected DLLs?)).
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Its stable at the above value and doesn't grow over time. I can exit BOINC and page file usage goes straight down to ~200MB range.
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Does anyone notice if when running the screen saver if it slows down in any way the Boinc projects? and if so please give specifics. Thanks
Well, yes, screensaver CPU time is used from a shared pool and not only from the project that it's running for.
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I found a bug in the screensaver that may cause the falling numbers to have "holes" or "spaces" on them. For example, you may see "457407 696478" falling. It's clearly the same number (same color, same falling speed, etc), not two numbers that happen to be close together.
The problem is in the way I'm generating the random numbers. I generate two random numbers and put them together (as in 123 + 456 = 123456, not an arithmetic addition). Sometimes they could overflow and become negative, and I end up with a number like "-110628-861797". The code has no way to draw a "-" sign, so a space is left there.
Since it's currently hard for me to compile on Windows, I won't give an immediate fix just for this. It will be fixed on the next major version with big changes :)
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Nicolas,
An easy way to fix the negatives would be to square the number and then take the square root. Not sure if this would be too computationally taxing for the screen saver? Never want to add too much overhead.
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An easy way to fix the negatives would be to square the number and then take the square root.
I'm using rand() + rand()*RAND_MAX. rand() always returns a positive number. The problem is I'm overflowing the range of an int in that multiplication, so I end up with a negative number. I fixed it by casting to a long in the appropriate places :)
Plans for later: switch to a Mersenne Twister that gives longer numbers out-of-the-box instead of that string concatenation mess.
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Does anyone think it would be useful to have the elapsed CPU time displayed on the screen saver? It doesn't seem worth the effort to me, but I want user opinions :)
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On Windows, most (or many) applications have their icon. It is visible i.e. on the title bar's left side. It is comparable with web site's favicon.
Could the graphics executable get it's icon too? If not a nice own miniaturized image with numbers, then be it at least the same "LLR" on green (or let it have at least a diagonal "4819" on blue?) background, as the primegrid_llr_5.10_windows_intelx86.exe and others use?
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On Windows, most (or many) applications have their icon. It is visible i.e. on the title bar's left side. It is comparable with web site's favicon.
Having an icon on the .exe file (Windows only) won't automatically give an icon on the titlebar. Adding an icon to the titlebar (all platforms) would be a separate task. I want to avoid including yet another .png file, so I'd have to put the bitmap inside the program somehow...
But adding text with stats about the current workunit is higher priority :)
I can't post frequent betas because I'm developing on Linux now.
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I would be happy if I could get the screensaver to work!!!???--- I've had to disable it--- If I enable --it goes into some sort of mad loop-- screen flashing every 0.5 sec-- then it comes on locked-- Nothing will get rid of it then-- Ctrl-Alt-Del will not shift it--I have to pull the plug then restart -- then go to display quickly and get rid of it--- (SS set to 2min)-- seems to be ok on my other PC's-- Problem PC -- Duo 2 Core-- XP Pack 3--
Help!!
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Yeah thats a great question and can you please post what other tasks you have on your list of to-do for the screen saver? Purdy please lol :)
I know I have a lot to do, but I didn't have a proper to-do list. Now I do, and it only has one item: Pepo's request for a titlebar icon.
I'll now add more items about internal code changes I want to do, to make it easier to change later, and to simplify adding text (subproject, prime number being tested, etc).
But I want to know what you as users are interested in seeing added/changed in the screensaver. Fill my list :)
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But I want to know what you as users are interested in seeing added/changed in the screensaver. Fill my to-do list :)
*crickets*
Uh, guys? Please show some interest... :/
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I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about, but I noticed something that I would consider an annoyance (perhaps?).
I think, though maybe it was something else, that when short work units are being worked on, the screensaver will 'restart' when it starts a new task. The issue is, if I'm running say TPS and proth LLR only, my screen will never turn off, as the screensaver resets at the onset of each new work unit. if I have the monitor to go off in 5 or 10 minutes, and the work unit completes in 3-4 minutes, the monitor will never turn off.
I assume there is nothing that can be done about this on your end, but I figured I'd let you know.
Other than that, I like it a lot. Thanks!
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Uh, guys? Please show some interest... :/
Nicolas-- See my post about 4 down-- I rather like the screen saver but it would be nice if I could get the damn thing to work on my main PC--
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Nicolas-- See my post about 4 down-- I rather like the screen saver but it would be nice if I could get the damn thing to work on my main PC--
Can you start the graphics application directly? Should be in boinc/projects/www.primegrid.com/primegrid_screensaver_0.9.3_windows_intelx86.exe
If run manually without a workunit, it should show the progress bar moving for 5 minutes, then quit.
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Can you start the graphics application directly? Should be in boinc/projects/www.primegrid.com/primegrid_screensaver_0.9.3_windows_intelx86.exe
If run manually without a workunit, it should show the progress bar moving for 5 minutes, then quit.
Works perfectly from there-- same if I hit the "show graphics" on the GUI--
Still goes mad if I enable the SS in Display and let the SS come on normally--
How about if I try uninstalling & re-installing-- might be corrupt file???
Where can I get a re-install?? |
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Works perfectly from there-- same if I hit the "show graphics" on the GUI--
Still goes mad if I enable the SS in Display and let the SS come on normally--
Maybe try running it manually with the --fullscreen switch:
Open a command prompt, cd to the projects\www.primegrid.com directory, and run primegrid_screensaver_0.9.3_windows_intelx86 --fullscreen.
Or, create a shortcut to the .exe and add --fullscreen to the command line (in shortcut properties), and run the shortcut.
Where can I get a re-install??
Detach Primegrid and attach again. All files will get deleted, and when you get work, they will be re-downloaded.
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I will try your suggestions---
But hears some info
I did a bit of experimenting a few minutes ago--
1-- If I select a task then let the SS start-- I appears and stays but it is locked up (hung)--I was about to pull the plug when new WU's arrived and the SS closed --all normal again---
2-- I closed Boinc & opened again --with no task selected the SS goes mental again--- watching the mad loop It's almost like it can't decide which core to follow--
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