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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,007)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,351)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,551)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,859)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,018)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,939)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,024,082)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,173)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,037)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (503,503)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (509,700)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,835,965)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,013,479)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (54,836,057)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,162)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,031)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,195,255)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,210,410)
Message 124583 - Posted: 9 Jan 2019 | 13:40:10 UTC
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Noticed the 321 Prime Sieve "coming soon". Great news! Will this wait until the conclusion of the current challenge?

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,135,461)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,736,611)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,077,044)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,466,510)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (63,788,779)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,128,542)
Message 124592 - Posted: 9 Jan 2019 | 15:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 124583.

Noticed the 321 Prime Sieve "coming soon". Great news! Will this wait until the conclusion of the current challenge?



Certainly.

There's off-line preparatory steps that won't be finished until at least the 24th so it can't start before then.

Current thinking is that we'll probably wait until after TdP and start in mid-March, but our plans are tentative and might change.
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,002,940)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,156)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,400)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,022,562)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,015,539)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,044)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,020)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,152,189)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,357)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,000,096)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,000,422)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,500)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,000,721)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,000,117)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,000,198)
Message 124593 - Posted: 9 Jan 2019 | 15:40:11 UTC

Soon...

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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (514,786)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (544,599)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,993)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,746)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,552,142)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (742,121)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,050,849)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,100,391)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,096,904)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,019,554)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (908,315)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,005,331)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (58,537,415)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,136,804)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,908,041)
Message 124594 - Posted: 9 Jan 2019 | 15:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 124593.
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chip wrote:
Soon...




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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,007)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,351)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,551)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,859)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,018)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,939)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,024,082)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,173)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,037)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (503,503)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (509,700)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,835,965)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,013,479)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (54,836,057)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,162)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,031)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,195,255)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,210,410)
Message 124639 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 1:54:30 UTC

Thank you for the concise answer as usual Michael. Would one be wise to assume a "30 day notice" for GCW Sieve will be concurrent with the start of the 321 Sieve?

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Message 124640 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 2:04:00 UTC - in response to Message 124639.

Thank you for the concise answer as usual Michael. Would one be wise to assume a "30 day notice" for GCW Sieve will be concurrent with the start of the 321 Sieve?


No. Unless there's some reason for a significant delay to the start of the 321 sieve, there will be significantly more than 30 days until the start of 321 Sieve and the end of GCW sieve.
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Discovered 8 mega primesEliminated 2 conjecture "k"sDiscovered 2 AP26sDiscovered 1 twin prime2017 Tour de Primes highest prime count2017 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2018 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primesFound 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,964,603)Cullen LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (58,024,172)ESP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (53,384,998)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,905,258)PPS LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (107,955,733)PSP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,603,689)SoB LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (217,119,155)SR5 LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (66,929,627)SGS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (54,944,236)TRP LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (113,604,340)Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (58,962,100)321 Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,250,415)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,879,764)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,428,955)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (3,008,139,439)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,857,516)TRP Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,936,081)AP 26/27 Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (839,537,036)GFN Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (3,633,426,875)PSA Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (5,302,369,200)
Message 124641 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 2:21:54 UTC
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Would anyone from the project care to comment on why the 321 sieve is being restarted (besides giving me the opportunity to improve my badge)?
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Message 124642 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 2:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 124641.

Would anyone from the project care to comment on why the 321 sieve is being restarted?


321 is currently sieved up to n=25M. The current leading edge is n=14.6M. We're going to sieve 25M < n < 50M. That would bring the 321 sieve up to the same point to which we've sieved the conjecture projects. The sieving should take several years, and we'd like to get the sieving done before LLR reaches 25M. 321, having just a single k, and the smallest of all possible k's, could advance very quickly if people concentrated on it.

Additionally, with GCW sieve likely to be ending sometime this year, we did want to have another CPU sieve project to take its place. It's a good time, therefore. to reopen 321 sieving.
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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,522,729)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,744,927)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,046,953)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,458,304)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,681,633)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,025,532)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,815,699)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,050,617)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,004,392)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,004,157)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,622,701)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,497,521)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,178,073)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (56,046,594)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (333,617,630)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,468,384)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,076,645)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (264,734,675)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (177,330,318)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,878,562)
Message 124648 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 4:39:55 UTC

Excellent news!...in a sense. While I look forward to moving that bronze stain off my badge list and getting something brighter, I have one pre-AVX cpu left: A Xeon X5675. It's been relegated to sieving only (if there isn't an SGS/PPSE challenge) and I was going to finally retire the system (most of it still being the original i7-920 build from 2009) after GCW sieve ended, but now, I suppose it's gotten a stay of execution so long as we're using the old sieve program. Or is mtsieve going to make its debut here?
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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,090,406)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (776,297)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,542,446)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,056,207)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,049,618)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,777,949)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,256,356)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,978,312)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,932,085)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,582,501)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,693,614)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,208,724)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,571,178)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,009,610)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (210,415,070)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,165,888)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,071,454)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,544,827)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (46,506,306)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,762,384)
Message 124649 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 4:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 124648.

Excellent news!...in a sense. While I look forward to moving that bronze stain off my badge list and getting something brighter, I have one pre-AVX cpu left: A Xeon X5675. It's been relegated to sieving only (if there isn't an SGS/PPSE challenge) and I was going to finally retire the system (most of it still being the original i7-920 build from 2009) after GCW sieve ended, but now, I suppose it's gotten a stay of execution so long as we're using the old sieve program. Or is mtsieve going to make its debut here?

It's not a stain to me. I'm trying to retain the whole gamut of badge levels.
It hasn't worked too well with challenges, and I was a bit disappointed when the badge upgrades happened a number of years ago. Probably the only person who was disappointed LOL.

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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,006)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,552,217)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,632)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,589,971)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,102,793)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,013,650)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,425,322)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,962,662)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,069,745)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,105,945)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,520,337)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,328,142)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,002,919)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,005,451)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,809,179)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,341,676)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,070,804)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,592,660)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,491,236)PSA Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (628,871,837)
Message 124651 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 6:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 124648.

Excellent news!...in a sense. While I look forward to moving that bronze stain off my badge list and getting something brighter, I have one pre-AVX cpu left: A Xeon X5675. It's been relegated to sieving only (if there isn't an SGS/PPSE challenge) and I was going to finally retire the system (most of it still being the original i7-920 build from 2009) after GCW sieve ended, but now, I suppose it's gotten a stay of execution so long as we're using the old sieve program. Or is mtsieve going to make its debut here?

I don't see an mtsieve program that's appropriate. fbncsieve uses a fixed b, n and c value with variable k. fkbnsieve is fixed k, b n with variable c. None of the others are appropriate. Feel free to point out if I'm missing something there.

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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,573)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,909)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,003,216)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,191,658)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,002)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,564)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,851,996)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,476,269)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,631,405)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,009,276)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,007,050)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (779,433)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (266,666,326)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,003,605)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,000,025)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (151,128,181)
Message 124653 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 6:58:22 UTC

Looking forward to it & can be patient another 2 months. I need doorstop food anyway.

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Message 124669 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 16:10:13 UTC - in response to Message 124651.

Excellent news!...in a sense. While I look forward to moving that bronze stain off my badge list and getting something brighter, I have one pre-AVX cpu left: A Xeon X5675. It's been relegated to sieving only (if there isn't an SGS/PPSE challenge) and I was going to finally retire the system (most of it still being the original i7-920 build from 2009) after GCW sieve ended, but now, I suppose it's gotten a stay of execution so long as we're using the old sieve program. Or is mtsieve going to make its debut here?

I don't see an mtsieve program that's appropriate. fbncsieve uses a fixed b, n and c value with variable k. fkbnsieve is fixed k, b n with variable c. None of the others are appropriate. Feel free to point out if I'm missing something there.


Correct, none of the programs built upon mtsieve support fixed k/variable n sieves, aka srsieve/sr1sieve/sr2sieve. Integrating srsieve into mtsieve will take a lot of work.

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Message 124673 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 17:45:27 UTC - in response to Message 124669.

OK, I gotcha. I just remember reading about your new sieve program(s) awhile back and there seemed to be some optimism that we could "freshen" PG sieving with new speed/instruction support, etc.
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Message 124674 - Posted: 10 Jan 2019 | 18:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 124673.

OK, I gotcha. I just remember reading about your new sieve program(s) awhile back and there seemed to be some optimism that we could "freshen" PG sieving with new speed/instruction support, etc.


Both gcwsieve and mfsieve are built upon the mtsieve framework and should be faster than the previous versions.

I'm looking into the possibility of integrating srsieve/sr1sieve/sr2sieve into the framework.

It would be interesting if other developers used mtsieve as the framework for other forms to see if there is any improvement in speed, but none have shown interest.

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Message 124694 - Posted: 11 Jan 2019 | 14:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 124642.

Would anyone from the project care to comment on why the 321 sieve is being restarted?


321 is currently sieved up to n=25M. The current leading edge is n=14.6M. We're going to sieve 25M < n < 50M. That would bring the 321 sieve up to the same point to which we've sieved the conjecture projects. The sieving should take several years, and we'd like to get the sieving done before LLR reaches 25M. 321, having just a single k, and the smallest of all possible k's, could advance very quickly if people concentrated on it.

Additionally, with GCW sieve likely to be ending sometime this year, we did want to have another CPU sieve project to take its place. It's a good time, therefore. to reopen 321 sieving.


I´m sure you have thought about it, but once n>25M to n<=50M reaches the sievedepth that n<=25M were stopped at, then please include the currently unsearched n´s in the sieve file - it will save you quite a bit of WU on the n<=25M range and it won´t slowdown your sievespeed too much (if any at all).

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Message 124711 - Posted: 11 Jan 2019 | 21:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 124694.

I´m sure you have thought about it, but once n>25M to n<=50M reaches the sievedepth that n<=25M were stopped at, then please include the currently unsearched n´s in the sieve file - it will save you quite a bit of WU on the n<=25M range and it won´t slowdown your sievespeed too much (if any at all).

Yes, I did think of that and that's the plan. It will take slightly longer to sieve those and we'll probably have to adjust the credit rate upward. The way sieving is set up, we have control of the credit amount on every individual workunit. So when the sieve file gets n=16M-25M (16M is a guess) added to it, only those workunits using that new sieve will receive more credit.

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wouldn't it make more sense to sieve this first?

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wouldn't it make more sense to sieve this first?

I have no idea what you mean. I was hoping not to have to explain this, but:

The 321 subproject tests candidates in the form k*b^n±1 where k=3 and b=2. In the past we sieved all candidates for n less than 25 million. Sieving kept going until an optimal level - that is it would take less time to test candidates with LLR than to keep sieving. When we sieve, there's a test divisor p which is tested against every candidate to see if p divides a candidate evenly. I'm assuming the letter p is used because it's always going to be a small (under 20 digits) prime.

We're about to start sieving n values from 25 million to 50 million. The starting p value will be 50T(50 x 1012). If any candidate is evenly divisible by any p, then it's by definition not a prime and that candidate is removed from the sieve. What KEP is saying is that we're going to sieve n=25M-50M only starting at p=50T. When we reach p=61P, which is where n=0-25M stopped, we should add the remaining part of the 0-25M sieve to the 25M-50M sieve file and so sieve part of that older range at relatively little cost. Until we reach p=61P, there's no reason to be sieving that 0-25M range - it was already done. Even if a few candidates were somehow missed, that's nothing compared to having millions of workunits search a space that's already been searched. When a factor is found, the corresponding candidate is completely removed from the sieve file. Sieving any n under 25M for any p under 61P has already been done. There's nothing there to find.

Because candidates with n=50M are so much larger than n=25M (remember, n is an exponent), we'll have to sieve to a much higher p level in any case. Adding those smaller n values back into the sieve makes a lot of sense. Because we'll be sieving a larger range (n=16M-50M for example) it'll take longer than for n=25M-50M and so I was commenting that at that point the credit given will rise by some amount. I don't know how much because I don't even have the n=25M-50M initial sieve file done yet. I'm currently sieving to p=50T on one of my computers. But since it's going to take at least a year to get to p=61P, I have lots of time to work it out.

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Message 124732 - Posted: 12 Jan 2019 | 9:37:39 UTC

oh sorry, i missunderstood the post before, thanks for the explanation

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I see the 321 SV as an available badge. Does anyone know when WU's can be downloaded?

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I see the 321 SV as an available badge. Does anyone know when WU's can be downloaded?


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Message 128039 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 7:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 128037.

I see the 321 SV as an available badge. Does anyone know when WU's can be downloaded?


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Thank you gentlemen!

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Will there be an announcement/BOINC notice for it? I wouldn't have even known about this if I wasn't part of the PrimeGrid Discord.
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Message 128045 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 12:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 128044.

Will there be an announcement/BOINC notice for it? I wouldn't have even known about this if I wasn't part of the PrimeGrid Discord.


Once we're confident it's working. For now, think of it as "early access for the attentive". :)
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Message 128049 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 16:31:19 UTC
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And not bad run times either.

Edit: and lots of factors

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Message 128050 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 17:50:04 UTC

Does the Sieve benefit from multi-cpu?

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Message 128052 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 18:09:35 UTC
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Before anyone asks, I'm guessing 321-Sieve will last about 2 years, with two big caveats:

1) This assumes I didn't make a huge error in the calculations and be off by a factor of 10 or 100.

2) Even if I did it correctly, the calculations are based on a lot of rough estimates, so it's likely to be off by a factor of 2 or more. Realistically, I expect it to last somewhere between 1 and 5 years, with 2 years being the most likely.

EDIT: We started the sieve at p=50T, as of March 20th it's at approximately p=860T, and our rough goal is about p=167P (167000T).
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Message 128053 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 18:12:09 UTC - in response to Message 128050.

Does the Sieve benefit from multi-cpu?


Sieves:

Multi-threading is not possible.

Hyper-threading is beneficial. If you have a hyper-threaded CPU, use all of the cores.

(I'm not sure what you meant by "multi-cpu", but hopefully it was one of those two.)
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Message 128055 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 18:52:45 UTC - in response to Message 128052.

2) Even if I did it correctly, the calculations are based on a lot of rough estimates, so it's likely to be off by a factor of 2 or more. Realistically, I expect it to last somewhere between 1 and 5 years, with 2 years being the most likely.

Noted and thanks!

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Message 128056 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 20:19:52 UTC

Very roughly it looks like HT (on -lake CPUs) gives about 30% more throughput than not using it.

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Message 128057 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019 | 20:50:19 UTC - in response to Message 128056.
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Very roughly it looks like HT (on -lake CPUs) gives about 30% more throughput than not using it.

No question HT is the way to go.

On my Skylakes, I have precisely the same performance between 321 Sieve and GCW Sieve but with a nice bonus of about 11% in favour of 321 Sieve with respect to credit.

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Message 128061 - Posted: 17 Mar 2019 | 4:53:59 UTC
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I'm crunching some 321 sieve tasks and noted (or noticed?) that stderr output contains many lines like these:

Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: xxxx
Skipping: nnnnn
Skipping: /xxxx


The tasks finish just fine (no errors).
So I guess it's not something to worry about, right ?
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Message 128062 - Posted: 17 Mar 2019 | 5:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 128061.

So I guess it's not something to worry about, right ?

Exactly.

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Message 128136 - Posted: 19 Mar 2019 | 15:46:35 UTC

When you first turned this back on, the dc rate was almost 100% as if no dc was being done. Now that more users are jumping on it's fallen down some.

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Message 128139 - Posted: 19 Mar 2019 | 17:15:42 UTC - in response to Message 128136.

When you first turned this back on, the dc rate was almost 100% as if no dc was being done. Now that more users are jumping on it's fallen down some.


Probably because you were double checking tasks run by admins before it was opened up to the public.

DC is always turned on.
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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,148,880)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,773,730)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,084,793)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,356,142)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,530,535)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,084,850)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,268)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,169,992)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,112,748)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,110,887)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,612,313)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,725,188)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (127,922,665)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,984,158)PPS Sieve Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,929,163,757)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,134,964)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,013,696)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (105,833,611)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (149,508,620)PSA Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,370,700,486)
Message 128141 - Posted: 19 Mar 2019 | 18:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 128139.

When you first turned this back on, the dc rate was almost 100% as if no dc was being done. Now that more users are jumping on it's fallen down some.


Probably because you were double checking tasks run by admins before it was opened up to the public.

DC is always turned on.


I knew dc was on.. but it was sure nice to see them validate almost immediately. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.

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Message 128237 - Posted: 22 Mar 2019 | 15:21:17 UTC

For Windows only, we've release a "new" version of the 321 Sieve app. This is the 1.14 version of the app.

The sieve itself is unchanged. The wrapper, however, is actually a slightly older version of the wrapper. The older wrapper is the same as was used for the TRP and SoB/PSP/ESP sieves. This should fix the problem causing negative time estimates when a task starts.

The Linux and Mac apps are unchanged. They already are using the same wrapper as was used in the TRP and SoB/PSP/ESP sieves.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,989)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,967)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,885)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,835)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,032,055)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,434)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (523,480)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,028)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (388,718)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,989)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,307)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (575,122)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,003,035)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (209,002)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (978,990)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (624,018)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (315,354)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,630)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,003,530)
Message 128290 - Posted: 24 Mar 2019 | 17:20:42 UTC

I have been running 321 Sieve tasks on my PC. When a 321 Sieve task downloads from BOINC, it has a Remaining (estimated) Time of -0d 00:08.08. When I have 321 Sieve tasks in the BOINC Queue, I have very few other PrimeGrid tasks from other Subprojects. When there are no 321 Sieve tasks in the BOINC queue, I have the usual PrimeGrid tasks from other Subprojects.

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,725)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,851,533)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,245,736)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,883)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,481,341)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,276,813)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,023,559)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,298,384)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,127,590)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,523)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,127,081)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,148,184)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,043,165)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,119,699)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,278,995)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,394,221)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,080,177)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,221,054)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,999)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,343,517)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,350,089)
Message 128291 - Posted: 24 Mar 2019 | 17:27:55 UTC - in response to Message 128290.

This has been fixed on Windows by JimB.
Just suspend other tasks to force them to run, unsuspend once they're running, and you shouldn't have this problem again for any new tasks.
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Message 128292 - Posted: 24 Mar 2019 | 17:40:16 UTC - in response to Message 128290.

I have been running 321 Sieve tasks on my PC. When a 321 Sieve task downloads from BOINC, it has a Remaining (estimated) Time of -0d 00:08.08. When I have 321 Sieve tasks in the BOINC Queue, I have very few other PrimeGrid tasks from other Subprojects. When there are no 321 Sieve tasks in the BOINC queue, I have the usual PrimeGrid tasks from other Subprojects.


Is this still happening with the newer version 1.14 tasks? 1.14 is supposed to fix that problem.
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Found 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,035,398)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,047,548)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,033,639)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,465)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,179,048)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,107,810)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,832,186)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,023,400)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,029,444)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,045,113)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,097,219)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,687,438)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,500,349)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (242,951,341)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,516,062)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,329,228)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,275,645)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,785,191)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,531,700)
Message 128299 - Posted: 24 Mar 2019 | 21:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 128292.

I have been running 321 Sieve tasks on my PC. When a 321 Sieve task downloads from BOINC, it has a Remaining (estimated) Time of -0d 00:08.08. When I have 321 Sieve tasks in the BOINC Queue, I have very few other PrimeGrid tasks from other Subprojects. When there are no 321 Sieve tasks in the BOINC queue, I have the usual PrimeGrid tasks from other Subprojects.


Is this still happening with the newer version 1.14 tasks? 1.14 is supposed to fix that problem.

The problem has been totally fixed on all of my systems.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,989)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,967)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,885)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,835)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,032,055)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,434)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (523,480)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,028)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (388,718)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,989)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,307)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (575,122)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,003,035)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (209,002)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (978,990)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (624,018)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (315,354)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,630)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,003,530)
Message 128321 - Posted: 25 Mar 2019 | 17:31:49 UTC - in response to Message 128299.

I was finishing up the 1.13 tasks. I received the first 1.14 tasks. The problem is fixed. Thank you!!!!

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,919,609)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,934,320)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,909,084)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,921,052)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,962,917)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,089,560)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,824,522)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,399,087)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,382,419)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,911,706)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,011,851)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,494,503)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,047,667)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,866,490)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,043,271)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,015,177)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,045,194)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,736,398)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,301,443)
Message 128363 - Posted: 27 Mar 2019 | 12:40:10 UTC
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Stupid race condition bug, causing crash of Windows sieve wrapper and out-of-bounds memory access on Linux, is still here although it's reason was found in 2016

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,135,461)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,736,611)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,077,044)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,466,510)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (63,788,779)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,128,542)
Message 128366 - Posted: 27 Mar 2019 | 15:06:19 UTC - in response to Message 128363.

Stupid race condition bug, causing crash of Windows sieve wrapper and out-of-bounds memory access on Linux, is still here although it's reason was found in 2016


Noted. We're discussing our options.
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,135,461)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,736,611)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,077,044)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,466,510)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (63,788,779)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,128,542)
Message 129504 - Posted: 15 May 2019 | 16:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 128366.
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Stupid race condition bug, causing crash of Windows sieve wrapper and out-of-bounds memory access on Linux, is still here although it's reason was found in 2016


Noted. We're discussing our options.


Thanks to stream stepping up and rewriting the wrapper (with help from Tern with the MAC builds), we now have a new sr2sieve wrapper, which allows me to announce:

321-sieve 2.00 is live. Same sieve, better wrapper.

Support for 32 bit Macs is officially terminated. We can't build the software anymore. We can't test the software. There's exactly one 32 bit Mac still using PrimeGrid. We'll leave the old (ancient) 32 bit Mac app for 321-sieve running, for now.
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Message 129507 - Posted: 15 May 2019 | 18:15:35 UTC - in response to Message 129504.

More on unsupported old operating systems...

Windows 2000 (W2K), which we officially stopped supporting 5 years ago, will no longer work. We can't build software for it anymore.

Mac O.S. 10.6 and older are no longer supported and will no longer work. We can't build software that will work on anything older than 10.7.
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