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Message 117418 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018 | 14:48:38 UTC
Last modified: 22 Apr 2018 | 18:08:55 UTC

For two weeks next month, From May 5th until May 19th, the annual BOINC Pentathlon will be happening. In the past PrimeGrid has been fortunate to be chosen as one of the disciplines, and we're once again in the running for this year's Pentathlon.

It has come to our attention that our manual credit system has been used in the past to try and game the Pentathlon's scoring system. We've also noticed several people who seem to be planning on doing that this year.

We don't like cheaters. Neither do most of you. We believe in providing a level playing field. In order to both prevent cheating and to discourage people from even trying, we will be turning off the manual credit system during the Pentathlon. You'll still be able to earn manual credit during the Pentathlon, but it won't be applied until after the 19th.

All this is predicated on PG being part of the Pentathlon. If not, it doesn't matter. But for the purposes of argument we're assuming we will be.
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Message 117422 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018 | 17:20:11 UTC - in response to Message 117418.

What is manual credit?

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Message 117423 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018 | 17:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 117422.

What is manual credit?


PSA, i.e. manual sieving and PRPNet.
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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 12 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 6 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,153,672)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,118,646)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,631,301)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,369,755)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,130,003)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,694,915)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,032,441)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,537,122)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,297,334)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (76,266)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,375,075)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,547,036)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,460,917)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,459,921)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (103,015,099)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,816,441,349)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,101,054)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,930,215)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (81,915,374)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (215,008,933)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (40,938,877)
Message 117431 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018 | 22:16:35 UTC

Good decision by our Admins.

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Message 117432 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018 | 22:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 117418.

If we do not like what we are giving them with our free PCs, it is unfortunate their sayings!

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,783)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,516)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,070)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (156,840)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (108,287)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,892)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (121,682)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,712)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,053)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (110,893)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (110,181)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,204)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (252,687,194)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (323,306)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,127)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,805,593)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,114,470)
Message 117433 - Posted: 22 Apr 2018 | 23:13:51 UTC - in response to Message 117432.
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If we do not like what we are giving them with our free PCs, it is unfortunate their sayings!


I'm sure PrimeGrid and the math community really like that you are giving freely of your PCs time and computing power. You can continue to do so, and will keep getting points and recognition for you work. If you participate in the PSA manual sieving, or PRPNet work your points you turn in during May 5th to May 19th have the chance of being delayed if PrimeGrid gets chosen as a project for the BOINC Pentathlon. You will still get all points.

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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,895,470)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,411)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,672)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,953)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,805)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (91,205)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (129,329)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,055)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,121)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,460)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (75,490)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,639)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (40,416)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,528,515)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (19,337)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (34,240)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (145,548)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (45,248,813)
Message 117435 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 1:50:53 UTC
Last modified: 23 Apr 2018 | 2:00:07 UTC

What does 'manual sieving and PRPNet' mean?
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,020,551)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,027,789)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,746,185)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,036,673)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,870,467)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,831,030)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,521,831)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,011,905)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,759)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,007,966)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,006,951)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (406,183)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,037,204)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,305,147)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,053)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,030,160)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,735,544)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,696,146)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (161,088,552)
Message 117436 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 2:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 117435.

What does 'manual sieving and PRPNet' mean?

In a nutshell, Manual Sieving is a way to quickly remove composite candidates so that we don't have to spend time testing them. Due to various reasons, we run the apps manually rather than have them be an automated process like the other subprojects, so users have to manually reserve a range of work, download the appropriate app, run it and then upload the results back to the server.

PRPNet is another client that has to be set up manually and is used to run subprojects that for whatever reason aren't ran through the BOINC client.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,044,282)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 117437 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 4:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 117435.

What does 'manual sieving and PRPNet' mean?



Manual Sieving: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_forum.php?id=22
PRPNet: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_forum.php?id=24

The most important thing to know is that if you don't know what manual credit is, this isn't going to affect you.
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,404,988)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,976,822)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,193,390)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,945,348)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,288,127)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,799,192)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (302,139)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (414,149)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (448,987)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (760,753)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (543,115)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (440,721)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (118,861,752)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (329,710)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (627,505)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,647,507)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,127,885)
Message 117440 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 8:44:48 UTC

Lost me in the title! "Manual" :(

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Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,942)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,523)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (655,642)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (539,100)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (688,232)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (561,629)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,659,676)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,810)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,024)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (963,625)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,044)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (511,694)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (549,916)PPS Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (701,168)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (525,590)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,675,760)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (525,639)
Message 117443 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 10:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 117437.

There is non-BOINC work that can be done, the credit for which will be applied to your BOINC RAC (in the PSA = Project Stage Area "subproject"). That's manual credit. The links to where you can learn more about that work were in Mike's message and I'm quoting them again:

Manual Sieving: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_forum.php?id=22
PRPNet: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_forum.php?id=24

The most important thing to know is that if you don't know what manual credit is, this isn't going to affect you.

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (511,386)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,818)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (580,104)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,210)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,086,073)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (686,232)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (785,805)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (684,062)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,095,282)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (512,571)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (673,276)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,006,315)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (944,431)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (335,808,988)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,079,826)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,806,170)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 117447 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 11:35:28 UTC - in response to Message 117435.

What does 'manual sieving and PRPNet' mean?


It's the PSA badge that alot of us don't have yet.
If you've never done it click on one of the badges under Your Account and it will bring up a chart showing your current badges and how far it is to your next badge, and at the very bottom the list of badges you don't have yet.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (48,835)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (98,851)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,226)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,236)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,871,599)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (237,390)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,010)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (71,060)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,455)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 117448 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 11:36:35 UTC - in response to Message 117440.

Lost me in the title! "Manual" :(


Most of the credit you get here on PrimeGrid, is awarded automatically when the server sees that you did work that was valid (i.e. another used did the same workunit and his result agrees with yours). No person needs to do anything to make sure you get the right credit.

Manual credit is different. Here, a person has to check how much work you did, and award the corresponding credit to you "by hand". Since this has to wait for a real person, it takes more time. This happens only for work you do outside of BOINC. In some cases, the work is not checked immediately. So you may get the credit even if it has not yet been determined if your result was correct. They trust you.

/JeppeSN

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Discovered 3 mega primesFound 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 3 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,680,937)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (525,295)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (509,582)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,102,874)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,018,755)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,356)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,181,063)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,008,935)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,075,510)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,037,368)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,055,777)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,038,024)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,433,131)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (302,769,736)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (179,012)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,037,578)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (103,604,340)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (105,607,470)
Message 117457 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 16:26:23 UTC

Thanks for the update. I agree this was a good decision to make.

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Discovered 2 mega primes2018 Tour de Primes highest prime count2018 Tour de Primes highest prime scoreFound 50 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 5 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,081,497)Cullen LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,241,050)ESP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,746,527)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,820,589)PPS LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (149,160,315)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,833,687)SoB LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,934,347)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,597,653)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,047,614)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,128,392)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,121,734)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,190,853)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (126,821,599)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (107,686,595)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,104,178)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,562,094)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,484,766)
Message 117461 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 18:04:42 UTC - in response to Message 117457.

I agree, as a contributor to manual credits: this is a good decision. Manual credits, even without cheating, depend too much on individual choices on the way to manage these tasks, including getting and returning tasks by large batches.

I guess you will be smoothing pushing the manual credits to PG, to avoid a huge credit surge on May 20th.

Thanks for your time and effort in making PG an open and fair project.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,770,356)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,182,777)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,044,282)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,593,307)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 117462 - Posted: 23 Apr 2018 | 18:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 117461.

I guess you will be smoothing pushing the manual credits to PG, to avoid a huge credit surge on May 20th.


It already does that automatically; there's no need for us to do anything special.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (350,959)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (425,621)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,471)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (152,006)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (395,503)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (318,135)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,034,813)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,588)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,790)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (146,158)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (453,465)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (207,323)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,643)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,538,950)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (251,124,954)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,534,355)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,971,450)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,800,406)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,556,570)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (756,189)
Message 117556 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018 | 17:29:08 UTC - in response to Message 117418.

Simply put, in the Pentathlon, bunkering is in no way cheating. This is why a project is announced 5 days in advance. Bunkering does not break any rules. It is allowed, encouraged and expected.

This is not true for every competition, but for the Pentathlon, it is.

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Message 117558 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018 | 18:22:53 UTC - in response to Message 117556.

Simply put, in the Pentathlon, bunkering is in no way cheating. This is why a project is announced 5 days in advance. Bunkering does not break any rules. It is allowed, encouraged and expected.

This is not true for every competition, but for the Pentathlon, it is.


Perhaps, but the extent to which it could be done with our manual credit projects is sufficient that not only were people doing it, but it was disruptive to us regardless of its impact on the competition.

Even if we didn't consider it to be unfair, we'd still be taking these steps to prohibit it.
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,016,725)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (541,582)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,586)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (114,178)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,057,214)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (552,958)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,056,364)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (592,676)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,022,263)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (567,024)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (545,306)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,661)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (43,606,554)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,076,992)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (251,563,692)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,633,390)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,012,727)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (594,321)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,010,659)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (201,168,837)
Message 117614 - Posted: 29 Apr 2018 | 16:44:54 UTC

That's an unpleasant surprise but probably right decision.
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Discovered 2 mega primesEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Found 3 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 5 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,124,499)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,149,818)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,448,000)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,122,074)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (44,212,070)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,128,604)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,319,914)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,479,395)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,702,766)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (34,130)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,154,737)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,715,464)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,326,385)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,383,853)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,626,419)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (74,140,875)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,293,882)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,012,757)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,576,712)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (48,107,585)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,939,755)
Message 117858 - Posted: 10 May 2018 | 8:24:11 UTC

PrimeGrid has been chosen for the cross-country event running - Start: 13 May 2018 00:00 UTC
End: 18 May 2018 00:00 UTC

This is also my first time participating in the pentathlon (team on other site) so will be interesting to see how much works gets done by it.

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Message 117870 - Posted: 10 May 2018 | 17:27:07 UTC

For those of you wishing to "bunker" more tasks in advance of the PrimeGrid portion of the Pentathlon, I have increased the number of tasks each computer can receive ten-fold, from 100 tasks per GPU to 1000 tasks per GPU. Have fun!
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Message 118033 - Posted: 18 May 2018 | 0:11:47 UTC

Our portion of the Pentathlon is now complete. Granting of manual credit is turned back on.
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