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Message 109782 - Posted: 1 Sep 2017 | 19:29:50 UTC

For the last several years, we've been very fortunate to have Rackspace sponsoring PrimeGrid and providing our cloud servers free of charge.

We're very grateful for everything Rackspace has done for us, but times change, and this is coming to an end.

We are looking for a new home. Don't worry; this isn't the end of PrimeGrid. This is not the first time we've had to move. It probably won't be the last. But we need a new digital abode in which to take up residence.

If anyone has connections with a corporation, university, cloud provider, or rich uncle that might want to sponsor a crowd-sourced mathematical research site, we'd appreciate any help and advice you can provide.

Thank you
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Message 109807 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 12:03:39 UTC - in response to Message 109782.

Team Gridcoin is currently discussing:

* "what if we sponsor it (The Gridcoin Foundation)? Let's say for a year. It's probably not a large sum and would boost our standing within the BOINC community considerably."

Also:
* "What do they need? Money, physical place...??? How much?"

further info here:
* https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@erkan/boinc-project-primegrid-is-looking-for-a-new-home-and-sponsors

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Message 109809 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 12:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 109782.

How much do Rackspace want for you to stay put?

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Message 109811 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 13:30:23 UTC - in response to Message 109809.

How much do Rackspace want for you to stay put?


Also:
* "What do they need? Money, physical place...??? How much?"


* "what if we sponsor it (The Gridcoin Foundation)? Let's say for a year. It's probably not a large sum and would boost our standing within the BOINC community considerably."


We're not looking to stay at Rackspace. For our needs, Rackspace is overkill. We can probably run PrimeGrid on a much smaller budget than what Rackspace would cost if we were paying their normal fees.

We just started talking about our options (and there are indeed options). If Gridcoin wishes to help, the simplest option is money. While it's possible some entity may step up and cover the entire cost (either financially or by providing the servers and infrastructure directly), a more likely scenario is PrimeGrid purchases physical servers and runs them from a local datacenter. I don't have the cost for that option yet (colo fees plus hardware reserve for the server hardware). We'll be working out the budget pretty soon.

Right now, we're looking at consolidating the current 4 servers into 2.

Note that whatever we do, our policy regarding backup and survivability doesn't change. The only difference will be that the time needed to recover from a disaster will increase.
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Message 109823 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 15:45:15 UTC
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I will help.

I have a very good VPS package that is collecting dust right now as I am between projects.

I would be happy to host for free, and I will work with Gridcoin community on whether or not they wish to reimburse me.

It sounds like you have multiple servers full of data, so it may be too big for what I have available. If that's the case, I will join my Gridcoin community friends in making donations toward your new home :-)

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Message 109836 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 17:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 109823.

I will help.

I have a very good VPS package that is collecting dust right now as I am between projects.

I would be happy to host for free, and I will work with Gridcoin community on whether or not they wish to reimburse me.

It sounds like you have multiple servers full of data, so it may be too big for what I have available. If that's the case, I will join my Gridcoin community friends in making donations toward your new home :-)


Zen,

Thanks for your offer. As you have guessed, the VPS servers you have are too small to run PrimeGrid. (We need about 30 GB of RAM on the DB/web server, with about 300 GB of SSD RAID 1 disk and a 1+ GB network connection. We also need a second server with 8-16 GB of ram and about 100 GB of SSD RAID 1.)

That being said, your gracious offer of financial support is greatly appreciated. Details will be forthcoming about how to support PrimeGrid with direct contributions, should we eventually go in that direction.
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Message 109838 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 17:45:53 UTC

I'd like to clarify something that wasn't obvious in my original post. The new "home" we're looking for doesn't have to be a scenario where one entity is providing us with free servers. Prior to Rackspace, we paid for our own cloud servers, and before that we owned our own physical servers. Both of those choices are viable options moving forward. (Because of the lead time involved with ordering hardware, we're actively investigating hardware options at this time.)
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Message 109850 - Posted: 2 Sep 2017 | 20:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 109838.

If there's a way I can donate directly, I'd be happy to throw some coins your way.

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Message 109873 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 4:33:04 UTC - in response to Message 109850.

If there's a way I can donate directly, I'd be happy to throw some coins your way.


I concur.

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Message 109875 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 6:58:48 UTC - in response to Message 109873.
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PrimeGrid is accepting both BTC and GRC donations (and PayPal, of course):

http://www.primegrid.com/donations.php

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Message 109876 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 9:06:11 UTC - in response to Message 109875.

PrimeGrid is accepting both BTC and GRC donations (and PayPal, of course):

http://www.primegrid.com/donations.php


I'll gladly donate some € - PG is my favorite BOINC project.

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Message 109877 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 9:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 109875.

Vortac wrote:

PrimeGrid is accepting both BTC and GRC donations (and PayPal, of course):

http://www.primegrid.com/donations.php


Is this the currently preferred donation method? Earlier, Michael wrote:

Details will be forthcoming about how to support PrimeGrid with direct contributions, should we eventually go in that direction.

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Message 109886 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 15:13:05 UTC

We will be updating the donations page, the bank donations method isn't currently working.

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Message 109888 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 15:50:47 UTC - in response to Message 109886.

We will be updating the donations page, the bank donations method isn't currently working.

Oops, I just sent something via PayPal - hope it gets to the project.
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Message 109891 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 17:11:14 UTC - in response to Message 109888.

We will be updating the donations page, the bank donations method isn't currently working.

Oops, I just sent something via PayPal - hope it gets to the project.

Got it - thanks!

I'll still ask the others to refrain from donating until we have a more exact budget expectations.

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Message 109892 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 17:24:27 UTC

Who would have thought NOT collecting money would be so difficult? You guys are awesome!

I have totally disabled the donations page -- you'll now get a 404 error if you try to use the link above (which is to a webpage we didn't want people using.) I thought merely removing all links to the page would be sufficient, but with Internet archives, bookmarks, etc., that was not correct. Lesson learned.

(Please note that I'm not blaming anyone for trying to donate -- and with lots of persistence! -- the onus is on me. I should have been more thorough and realized simply removing links wouldn't get it done. The Internet never forgets anything.)

We'll let everyone know when it's safe to donate again (assuming we go that route.)

Thanks for your amazing support!!

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Message 109897 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 18:40:06 UTC - in response to Message 109892.

At the risk of sounding like the idiot that I am, here's a question: Can some (or all) of primegrid's hosting needs be handled in a distributed way? (in a similar fashion as boinc tasks that are currently being sent out for crunching) I would guess that even the database could be done in some kind of peer to peer or shared way, where stuff is stored and processed in little chunks distributed across thousands of our computers. then pretty much all you need is a simple web host. I'll bet that there are lots of reasons not to do that, just throwing it out there.

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Message 109898 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 18:59:15 UTC - in response to Message 109897.
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At the risk of sounding like the idiot that I am, here's a question: Can some (or all) of primegrid's hosting needs be handled in a distributed way? (in a similar fashion as boinc tasks that are currently being sent out for crunching) I would guess that even the database could be done in some kind of peer to peer or shared way, where stuff is stored and processed in little chunks distributed across thousands of our computers. then pretty much all you need is a simple web host. I'll bet that there are lots of reasons not to do that, just throwing it out there.


The big server component is the database server. Is it possible to run a database on distributed servers? Absolutely. But I've never heard of anyone spreading a (relatively) small database across many servers. Typically, that's done with huge databases, and the individual components are themselves pretty large systems.

We're working on the server specs right now. It's not incredibly onerous -- I imagine there's many "gaming" rigs as well as computers built specifically to crunch PrimeGrid tasks that will cost more than one of the servers. I wouldn't be surprised if some of your monthly electric bills exceed the cost of the server.

I apologize for being vague about a lot of details, but I'm communicating in real time and the situation is very fluid. We've had multiple offers to (possibly) host us free of charge, as well as investigating the "purchase our own servers" option.
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Message 109915 - Posted: 3 Sep 2017 | 22:37:10 UTC - in response to Message 109898.

If any of my rigs can host (or backup host) or make a small $ donation in my Canadian rupee's for you to build your own I'm more then glad to.

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Message 109935 - Posted: 4 Sep 2017 | 15:02:50 UTC

After some research and discussions, PrimeGrid has decided that the best way to move forward is to purchase our own dedicated servers. Plans are underway for that right now, including housing the servers in a commercial data center.

We will be opening up the donations page in the next couple of days, for those who would like to help. (And, of course, thanks to those who already have donated.) We want to nail down the actual costs before setting the targets for donations.

As things stand right now, it looks like our total operating expenses, including the data center (the largest single cost), hardware reserve for future server repairs and replacements, and covering the up front hardware costs comes out to less than half of what some of us pay for our monthly electric bills.

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Message 109946 - Posted: 4 Sep 2017 | 20:33:28 UTC

Do we run into a deadline for the move?
(Other words: Do we have to leave Rackspace until xxxxx?)

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Message 109948 - Posted: 4 Sep 2017 | 21:11:04 UTC - in response to Message 109946.

Do we run into a deadline for the move?
(Other words: Do we have to leave Rackspace until xxxxx?)



Sometime in late October we have to start paying for RackSpace. We intend to be up and running before then.

Lead time on our hardware is about a month, so it will be close.

Worst case scenario is we drop a lot of non essential stuff and only run the main server for a few days if we need extra time. Off the top of my head that would cost us about $30/day.

Expect some downtime when we move. We'll need to shut down, backup, and restore on the new server. Plan on a 48 hour outage, although it could be as short as 2 or 3 hours.

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Message 109960 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 7:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 109948.

Plan on a 48 hour outage, although it could be as short as 2 or 3 hours.

Any problem with someone hoarding work for 48 hrs? It would mean extra activity when the system is back up due to the bulk submissions but it also means no CPU/GPU cycles would be lost.

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Message 109962 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 8:31:18 UTC - in response to Message 109960.

Any problem with someone hoarding work for 48 hrs? It would mean extra activity when the system is back up due to the bulk submissions but it also means no CPU/GPU cycles would be lost.

No problem with that. The load will probably be less than an average challenge! There is however no need to act now, we will post well in advance of the outage.

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Perfect and thanks.

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Message 109972 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 13:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 109948.

Could there be options if we raise enough money to get more powerful servers?

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Message 109974 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 14:47:07 UTC - in response to Message 109972.

Could there be options if we raise enough money to get more powerful servers?


You want the whole planet's light to dim when we turn it on, eh?

Seriously, the servers are ordered, so that part's set in stone now.

The CPUs are more powerful than the existing server -- the new guys are quad core Kabylake Xeons -- and the only question in my mind is how well the SSDs perform relative to what we have now. I won't really know about that until we start using them, but at worst, that's upgradable later on. Actually, I'm not even worried about that. Earlier versions of the server ran fine on hard disks, so I'm not expecting performance problems.


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Message 109977 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 16:50:22 UTC - in response to Message 109974.


Seriously, the servers are ordered, so that part's set in stone now.


The geek in me would love to know the details of what you guys ordered, but I understand if you don't want to open yourself up for discussion, second guessing, etc. :)

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Message 109978 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 17:22:29 UTC

I think that all of this is being handled very well. It's nice to know nuts and bolts but the reality is that as long as the work units keep getting pushed out the door and accepted back when completed is all that's really important. :-) And once you get things firmed up budget wise I'm more than happy to contribute financially. Love this project! :-)

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Message 109979 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 17:31:36 UTC - in response to Message 109977.


Seriously, the servers are ordered, so that part's set in stone now.


The geek in me would love to know the details of what you guys ordered, but I understand if you don't want to open yourself up for discussion, second guessing, etc. :)


No big secrets...

https://www.lenovo.com/images/products/system-x/pdfs/datasheets/x3250_m6_ds.pdf

CPU is Xeon E3-1240 v6 3.7GHz 4C/8T

Configured with 2x 240 GB SSDs in a RAID 1 configuration, 32GB of DDR4 ram and redundant power supplies.

The second server, which will act as the both database replica and as the backup server in case the primary fails is identical except it has only a single SSD.
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Message 109981 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 17:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 109978.

I think that all of this is being handled very well. It's nice to know nuts and bolts but the reality is that as long as the work units keep getting pushed out the door and accepted back when completed is all that's really important. :-) And once you get things firmed up budget wise I'm more than happy to contribute financially. Love this project! :-)


Thanks for...

Participating
The kind words
Offering to contribute

They all mean a lot to us.

You're absolutely right about it not really mattering what's under the hood. When Jim and I got involved, PG was running on a fairly old set of servers which couldn't really handle the load very well. It meant we had to be a bit more creative about managing the system. Sometimes we did that better than other times. ;)

Then we had a situation where we had to move datacenters and the cost was going to go up significantly. Instead, we ditched the old servers and moved to a low cost cloud provider. That worked well for a while, until the provider modified their policies to limit the amount of disk IO you could do. For a BOINC system, it's all about disk IO speed, so we had to find another place. That got us to Rackspace. Once or twice we had problems with servers developing problems. Each time, we rebuilt on a new cloud server which was not only faster, but sometimes less expensive as well. Overall, an excellent experience there. Rackspace also provided us with the opportunity to use a second database replica server, which not only protects the database integrity, but also allows us to back up the database from the replica. We used to shut down PrimeGrid every night for a few minutes to back up the database.

And now, we've come full circle and are moving back to owning our own servers. Yes, we'll have to start fund raising again, but I think we'll be okay. It's not a ridiculous amount of money.

We're carrying over some of the concepts we implemented in the cloud to our new architecture. In particular, we're keeping the database replica. It makes a real difference. The cloud version of the replica was a smaller server, but this time it's essentially identical to the primary server so we have a quick and easy backup if needed.

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Message 109994 - Posted: 5 Sep 2017 | 22:27:45 UTC - in response to Message 109981.

Thank you michael and Rytis (also Jim, and anyone I'm forgetting) for keeping this project running.

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Message 110017 - Posted: 6 Sep 2017 | 17:42:13 UTC - in response to Message 109935.

We will be opening up the donations page in the next couple of days, for those who would like to help. (And, of course, thanks to those who already have donated.) We want to nail down the actual costs before setting the targets for donations.


https://www.primegrid.com/donations.php

The donations page has been updated. If you would like to do so, feel free to donate.

Please note that the counters are not automatically updated, so you won't see the bars move immediately. (And before you ask, I'm not sure if that's even possible. That would require getting information from external financial systems.)
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Message 110026 - Posted: 6 Sep 2017 | 23:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 110017.


err: 8 WebMoney payments for this merchant are not set up or set up incorrectly by it`s payment processor. Please contact the merchant`s technical support. (LMI_SHOP_ID not specified for this merchant!) step:13.4

Webmoney doesn't seem to be working for me.

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err: 8 WebMoney payments for this merchant are not set up or set up incorrectly by it`s payment processor. Please contact the merchant`s technical support. (LMI_SHOP_ID not specified for this merchant!) step:13.4

Webmoney doesn't seem to be working for me.


Thanks, we'll look into it.

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Message 110029 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 1:05:33 UTC

I can use paypal but 2.9% of €3500 is substantial plus i think $.25 USD per transaction. No I'm not donating that full amount just if everyone went that route.

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Message 110031 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 5:54:25 UTC

I got in touch with Paysera and they will look into the issue. I will let you know when the issue is resolved - thanks for letting us know!

As for PayPal, we are aware of the rather large fees. Sadly I don't think there is a more convenient service for international payments. Within the EU we have an (almost) free SEPA system, but going worldwide presents some challenges.

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Message 110041 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 12:30:22 UTC

Apparently it is against WebMoney terms of service to use their service for donations, so we cannot accept WM. The payment option has been removed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Message 110043 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 12:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 110031.

I got in touch with Paysera and they will look into the issue. I will let you know when the issue is resolved - thanks for letting us know!

As for PayPal, we are aware of the rather large fees. Sadly I don't think there is a more convenient service for international payments. Within the EU we have an (almost) free SEPA system, but going worldwide presents some challenges.

With PayPal, there is an option to send money to friends and relatives. The last time I used it, I was charged $1 for using this option. I do not know if there are any limits when using this option and/or whether the $1 is valid up to some limit of its own.

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Message 110045 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 14:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 110043.

With PayPal, there is an option to send money to friends and relatives. The last time I used it, I was charged $1 for using this option. I do not know if there are any limits when using this option and/or whether the $1 is valid up to some limit of its own.


I would be very surprised if this qualified as "friends and relatives".
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Message 110049 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 16:50:49 UTC - in response to Message 110045.

With PayPal, there is an option to send money to friends and relatives. The last time I used it, I was charged $1 for using this option. I do not know if there are any limits when using this option and/or whether the $1 is valid up to some limit of its own.


I would be very surprised if this qualified as "friends and relatives".

I would think we're all friends here.

But seriously. What if Paypal donations were sent directly to Rytis then he could forward it monthly (or however often he wants to) to Primegrid's account. If Primegrid's account is at a local bank (or online bank) that Rytis has a personal account at (or open one), it should be easy for him to transfer without fees. This could bypass the usual fees (especially advantageous for donors of larger donations) that Paypal charges for normal transactions. Just a thought.


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Message 110051 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 17:33:58 UTC - in response to Message 110049.

With PayPal, there is an option to send money to friends and relatives. The last time I used it, I was charged $1 for using this option. I do not know if there are any limits when using this option and/or whether the $1 is valid up to some limit of its own.


I would be very surprised if this qualified as "friends and relatives".

I would think we're all friends here.

But seriously. What if Paypal donations were sent directly to Rytis then he could forward it monthly (or however often he wants to) to Primegrid's account. If Primegrid's account is at a local bank (or online bank) that Rytis has a personal account at (or open one), it should be easy for him to transfer without fees. This could bypass the usual fees (especially advantageous for donors of larger donations) that Paypal charges for normal transactions. Just a thought.



I appreciate the desire to help, but it can't be by breaking the rules, whether those rules are laws or merely the TOS we agree to when using a company's services. If we can find a more efficient way to handle donations, we will of course do so. But it needs to be 100% honest and above board.
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Message 110056 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 18:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 110051.

I dont know what ( and how ) EU handle cryptocoins: but if somebody send any kind of coins, and if that coin is sold and changed for $ then there will be no fee for that transaction.
In days that price can go up and down rapidly, it will be good to have one person, that will we sold coins immediately , and convert it to solid value ( like $)
In that case you will not lost anything because of unstable price.
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Message 110060 - Posted: 7 Sep 2017 | 19:47:23 UTC
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Yesterday I figured I'd donate, and found out I'd have to go through with PayPal. My intent was to donate $100. Well paypal's exchange using their system rather than the "merchant's" (they give you a choice) was 1.19 US to one euro. So I ended up doing 83 euros ($98.77). my total cost was just a bit over $102.xx. So my "cost" of using PayPal was roughly $3.50. That doesn't seem onerous to me as it costs more to wire bucks to someone halfway around the world. And also keeping things in a bit of perspective, I go out to eat, the restaurant wants me to kick in a 15-20% tip for someone that takes my order, brings the food. brings the bill, and takes the plates away. So I just can't get too upset over using PayPal, specially when there isn't much of a choice when dealing with international financial transfers.

If it was a straight VISA or MC transfer, then there would be the exchange rate fee at the time/date of placing the transfer. So basically, it is what it is, a necessary evil to keep the project going. :-) Just my $0.02 (two cents) worth on the subject. lol

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Message 110062 - Posted: 8 Sep 2017 | 1:04:59 UTC

Cadian peso's are at .68 of a EUR which is the best it's been since april so at least I'm not too screwed on exchange rate. Gave what I could at the moment hope to give more and larger later.

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Message 110063 - Posted: 8 Sep 2017 | 1:38:44 UTC

Thanks everyone. We appreciate everybody's contributions.

As for the costs charged by the various intermediaries, that's just the cost of doing business. You don't see it as a consumer, but every time you use a credit card to purchase something, the credit card company takes a small percentage out of what the merchant gets paid. These services aren't free (nor should they be.)

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Message 110170 - Posted: 11 Sep 2017 | 17:24:38 UTC

just try the SEPA-way ...
I am curious whether my existing crown will change ;-) *)


*) this was not a requirement
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Message 110184 - Posted: 12 Sep 2017 | 2:02:38 UTC

I just tried the SEPA way as well. My homebanking asked for some info that is not available on the donation page (the address and country of the account owner). Nothing that Mr. google couldn't handle though :) I hope it reaches the destination.
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Message 110185 - Posted: 12 Sep 2017 | 7:06:11 UTC - in response to Message 110184.

My homebanking asked for some info that is not available on the donation page (the address and country of the account owner).

Thanks, I'll add the information to the donation page.

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Message 110204 - Posted: 12 Sep 2017 | 16:36:29 UTC

Been trying to make a donation through pay-pal but it appears to not be function this morning. Just mentioning it in case no one knows.

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Message 110233 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017 | 18:05:21 UTC

We think the donation issues may have been HTTPS related. The page has been modified and the transaction will happen over secure connection, which will hopefully solve the issue.

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Message 110275 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017 | 19:59:08 UTC

Had no problem this morning.

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Message 110285 - Posted: 17 Sep 2017 | 7:30:00 UTC

Sent some donation recently.
Since I already have donation crown from earlier donation, I got curious how do I know that it reached the destionation?
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,017,072)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,261,473)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (535,630)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,053,583)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (575,694)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,709,760)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,516,446)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,056,683)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (632,629)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,479)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,626,395)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (130,370,054)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (555,042)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,089,296)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,134,704)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (203,571,086)
Message 110287 - Posted: 17 Sep 2017 | 10:38:12 UTC - in response to Message 110285.

Sent some donation recently.
Since I already have donation crown from earlier donation, I got curious how do I know that it reached the destionation?

If you were logged in when you made the donation from the link on the page, you will receive PrimeGrid private message from Rytis.

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Message 110293 - Posted: 17 Sep 2017 | 14:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 110287.

Sent some donation recently.
Since I already have donation crown from earlier donation, I got curious how do I know that it reached the destionation?

If you were logged in when you made the donation from the link on the page, you will receive PrimeGrid private message from Rytis.

That is correct; please note that donation management is a manual process and it takes a little while. I'll update all donations tomorrow!

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Message 110306 - Posted: 18 Sep 2017 | 3:29:01 UTC

For a few years I have been using dedicated servers from online.net (https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server) and can recommend at least considering their offers, either as a backup solution or maybe even as a permanent one. On a three-year horizon the TCO is going to be less then hosting own servers in a colo.

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Message 110308 - Posted: 18 Sep 2017 | 5:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 110306.

For a few years I have been using dedicated servers from online.net (https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server) and can recommend at least considering their offers, either as a backup solution or maybe even as a permanent one. On a three-year horizon the TCO is going to be less then hosting own servers in a colo.


Thanks for that information. That does look like a cost effective hosting solution, however the decisions have already been made. We'll keep this information on file for the future.
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Message 110339 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017 | 7:41:05 UTC

We just received a new, much better quote for colocation, so the donation target has been updated accordingly.

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Message 110344 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017 | 11:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 110339.
Last modified: 20 Sep 2017 | 11:39:30 UTC

Just try to create a new beneficiary using the information on the donation page and it fails.
My bank ask for IBAN (that's ok) and BIC information (=SWIFT) that was rejected.

After some search on BIC information, I found there are 2 version of the BIC, BIC8 and BIC11 for 8 or 11 chars.

On the donation page you set only the BIC8 and obviously my bank ask for the BIC11.

As DuckDuckGo is my friend, a search for BIC & AB DNB bankas found the missing information: here

BIC8 = AGBLLT2X
BIC11 = AGBLLT2XXXX

....

Must the amount be prime ?
Hopefully, it should not be one of the T5k :)

Donation ongoing ....
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Badge Score: 2*2 + 13*5 + 2*6 + 2*8 + 1*9 = 106

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Message 110345 - Posted: 20 Sep 2017 | 12:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 110344.

Thanks - my bank doesn't even provide the longer version in their information page. Added this information to the donation page.

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Message 110622 - Posted: 3 Oct 2017 | 6:21:32 UTC

Quick update: we now have enough money to pay for the servers - and I just got news they will be delivered to me tomorrow. It will take a while to set things up, but the first major step is done. Expect photos :)

We are now in the next donation progress bar, which covers hosting both servers in the datacenter. It is going to cost us 140€ per month (5000€ for the next three years), so all your help is very much appreciated.

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Message 111089 - Posted: 1 Nov 2017 | 9:44:13 UTC

The new servers are back in their boxes and I'll bring them to the datacenter tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who donated!

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Message 111639 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017 | 1:06:36 UTC

Just sent 25 euro. wish it could be more, best of luck

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Message 111646 - Posted: 18 Nov 2017 | 9:20:14 UTC

I sent 10 Euros on 11/14/17 just making sure that you got it.

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Message 111847 - Posted: 23 Nov 2017 | 13:26:17 UTC

Thanks - we did get those, thank you for your support! Tallying up donations is a manual process that I just completed, so you should get your crowns very soon.

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