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Message boards : Seventeen or Bust : The SoB Double Check has begun

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Message 106184 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017 | 13:52:20 UTC

All of the SoB DC candidates have been loaded into the system. Once the existing leading edge tasks are all sent out the server will start sending out the smaller double check tasks. It will probably be another two or three days until the double check tasks start going out. There will also be occasional resends of leading edge tasks until they're all completed. If the past is any indication, it will take about 6 months for all of the leading edge workunits complete. Until then, there will be a possibility of getting one of the long SoB tasks, although the probability of that happening will grow decreasingly small with time.

The double check will start at n=7M. Everything below that has already been fully double checked. It will end just below n=31M. I expect the double check to take several years.

As far as deadlines go, we will start with the same deadlines we used for the PSP double check:

Deadlines

The new short double check tasks will start with a deadline of 4 days.

When n reaches 8,000,000, I will change the deadline to 6 days.

When n reaches 10,000,000, I will change the deadline to 10 days.

When n reaches 13,000,000, I will change the deadline to 14 days.

When n reaches 16,000,000, I will change the deadline back to 21 days.


Deadlines for beyond n=16M will be determined later.

This table shows the double check work, broken down by N (in millions). The tests are broken down into two categories: candidates where we have a residue from the old SoB project, and those where we need to do a full test (i.e., run two tests that match.) The vast majority of the early work will be matching against residues from the SoB project. At n=28M, however, we switch over to the range where data was lost in the SoB disaster, and from that point on the majority of the work has no residues. Almost half of the total work that needs to be done are the full retests of lost SoB work.

+-------+-------------+---------------+----------+-----------------+-------+---------------+ | nM | Total tests | work (all) | residues | work (residues) | full | work (full) | +-------+-------------+---------------+----------+-----------------+-------+---------------+ | 7 | 706 | 1,770.565 | 706 | 1,770.565 | 0 | 0.000 | | 8 | 284 | 931.095 | 284 | 931.095 | 0 | 0.000 | | 9 | 463 | 1,938.396 | 462 | 1,930.066 | 1 | 8.330 | | 10 | 1284 | 6,414.559 | 1284 | 6,414.559 | 0 | 0.000 | | 11 | 1343 | 8,076.404 | 1343 | 8,076.404 | 0 | 0.000 | | 12 | 1256 | 8,895.516 | 1255 | 8,881.119 | 1 | 14.398 | | 13 | 1072 | 8,855.649 | 1067 | 8,771.574 | 5 | 84.075 | | 14 | 10015 | 95,163.148 | 9995 | 94,792.747 | 20 | 370.401 | | 15 | 7841 | 85,305.198 | 7832 | 85,110.303 | 9 | 194.895 | | 16 | 11126 | 137,327.863 | 11126 | 137,327.863 | 0 | 0.000 | | 17 | 8820 | 123,819.938 | 8820 | 123,819.938 | 0 | 0.000 | | 18 | 5675 | 90,407.923 | 5675 | 90,407.923 | 0 | 0.000 | | 19 | 11238 | 193,675.729 | 11238 | 193,675.729 | 0 | 0.000 | | 22 | 11120 | 255,081.764 | 11118 | 254,993.218 | 2 | 88.546 | | 23 | 10986 | 275,011.197 | 10982 | 274,809.197 | 4 | 202.000 | | 24 | 11255 | 306,367.000 | 11250 | 306,097.096 | 5 | 269.903 | | 25 | 11094 | 327,444.347 | 11077 | 326,436.205 | 17 | 1,008.142 | | 26 | 11249 | 362,555.351 | 11106 | 353,296.520 | 143 | 9,258.831 | | 27 | 1 | 67.461 | 0 | 0.000 | 1 | 67.461 | | 28 | 11406 | 703,197.260 | 3743 | 136,229.668 | 7663 | 566,967.593 | | 29 | 10613 | 723,092.841 | 2872 | 113,558.013 | 7741 | 609,534.827 | | 30 | 10521 | 777,183.170 | 2626 | 109,680.746 | 7895 | 667,502.424 | | Total | 149368 | 4,492,582.376 | 125861 | 2,637,010.551 | 23507 | 1,855,571.824 | +-------+-------------+---------------+----------+-----------------+-------+---------------+


For many candidates we don't have to run any tests at all, either because they were already run at PrimeGrid, or the SoB project already double checked them (and we have a record proving it), or the double check has already been done in our internal testing (everything below n=7M). Here's the breakdown on candidates already double checked:

+-------+------------+---------------+ | nM | Elim tests | work (elim) | +-------+------------+---------------+ | 1 | 11510 | 2,445.784 | | 2 | 11519 | 6,630.509 | | 3 | 11585 | 12,964.731 | | 4 | 11339 | 20,891.528 | | 5 | 11691 | 32,122.283 | | 6 | 11371 | 43,650.205 | | 7 | 10819 | 55,290.954 | | 8 | 11222 | 73,535.831 | | 9 | 11028 | 90,151.084 | | 10 | 10218 | 102,178.039 | | 11 | 10118 | 121,265.185 | | 12 | 10234 | 145,127.038 | | 13 | 10398 | 171,878.361 | | 14 | 1503 | 29,518.209 | | 15 | 3477 | 76,113.824 | | 16 | 378 | 9,237.945 | | 17 | 2521 | 67,190.405 | | 18 | 5991 | 181,137.898 | | 19 | 370 | 12,785.270 | | 20 | 11553 | 440,150.857 | | 21 | 11416 | 478,438.866 | | 22 | 432 | 19,892.943 | | 23 | 406 | 20,290.555 | | 24 | 370 | 20,103.164 | | 25 | 343 | 20,187.768 | | 26 | 182 | 11,546.086 | | 27 | 11397 | 781,206.371 | | 28 | 33 | 2,402.903 | | 29 | 769 | 61,034.473 | | 30 | 1005 | 84,692.929 | | Total | 195198 | 3,194,061.998 | +-------+------------+---------------+



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Message 106185 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017 | 14:07:35 UTC

As an aside, if for some reason you want to run the longer leading edge SoB tasks, there's still about 200 left. After those are gone, there probably won't be any more until sometime in the 2020s.
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Message 106191 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017 | 16:02:59 UTC - in response to Message 106185.

Michael, any indication as to the run time for the double check units as compared to the longer tasks we have been used to in the past?

Count me full-in mid next month and when I will be done with GCW Sieve (for now).

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Message 106192 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017 | 16:16:40 UTC - in response to Message 106191.

As a very rough estimate, I think it would start off slightly smaller than TRP and grow from there.

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Message 106194 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017 | 16:52:49 UTC

Just started on my TRP phase so will give SoB a few days to avoid some leading edge then be full-bore double-check. Is the April challenge likely to be SoB therefore?

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Message 106195 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017 | 18:06:24 UTC - in response to Message 106194.

Just started on my TRP phase so will give SoB a few days to avoid some leading edge then be full-bore double-check. Is the April challenge likely to be SoB therefore?


We haven't discussed challenges yet.
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Message 106213 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 15:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 106195.

Just started on my TRP phase so will give SoB a few days to avoid some leading edge then be full-bore double-check. Is the April challenge likely to be SoB therefore?


We haven't discussed challenges yet.


The April challenge will be PSP, as scheduled. The March SoB challenge has been cancelled, but will likely be rescheduled later in the year.
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Message 106231 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 22:31:46 UTC

The first of the double check tasks have been generated, although none have been sent out yet. There's still 91 "big" tasks in the queue, and that's more than a day's worth.
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Message 106233 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 22:50:16 UTC - in response to Message 106231.

Might be a dumb question, and it's not very important to me but are the "big" tasks going to receive the old level of credit or will it be the adjusted credit for new shorter tasks? I'm curious as the SOB I have running should finish around the 31st after when short tasks will start being sent out (29 days 17 hours and 30 minutes crunching so far).

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Message 106234 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 23:06:55 UTC - in response to Message 106231.

The first of the double check tasks have been generated, although none have been sent out yet. There's still 91 "big" tasks in the queue, and that's more than a day's worth.


The Stats SoB LLR page already shows n "Min in progress" as 7 million and something for a couple of the, wait, now all five, k values. /JeppeSN

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Message 106237 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 23:38:30 UTC - in response to Message 106233.
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Might be a dumb question, and it's not very important to me but are the "big" tasks going to receive the old level of credit or will it be the adjusted credit for new shorter tasks? I'm curious as the SOB I have running should finish around the 31st after when short tasks will start being sent out (29 days 17 hours and 30 minutes crunching so far).


Credit per hour should be roughly the same no matter which SoB tasks you crunch. That includes both leading edge ("big") and double check ("small") tasks.

EDIT: To answer your question directly, nothing is changing with regards to credit.
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Message 106239 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 0:06:22 UTC

None of the double check tasks have gone out yet, but when they do, don't be surprised if you see something different than what you're used to.

Many of these candidates have multiple -- and different -- pre-existing residues associated with them. We don't know which, if any, of these residues is correct. So they *all* get loaded into the system as "validated but inconclusive" results. Don't be surprised if you get workunits that have two or three "fake" results. It's normal.
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Message 106275 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 15:01:53 UTC

Double check tasks have started being sent out.
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Message 106280 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 17:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 106275.

So am I right that tasks above 32M will not be sent out till the end of this Double Check?

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Message 106281 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 17:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 106280.

No NEW tasks will be sent out, but I'm guessing it will still be possible to get large units from timed out, aborted or inconclusive work for a while yet.

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Message 106282 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 17:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 106280.

So am I right that tasks above 32M will not be sent out till the end of this Double Check?


Correct. We're in the middle of the 31M range, which won't resume until after the DC completes. So it will be several years until any 32M tasks get sent out.
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Message 106317 - Posted: 23 Mar 2017 | 3:42:21 UTC

I've expanded the queue size to its normal operating size, and since there's very few total tests at the lower n values, that was enough to push n above 10M.

As per the plan, the deadline has therefore been increased to 10 days. At n=13M the deadline will go to 14 days. That won't take very long because there's less than 4000 tasks, total, between n=10M and n=13M.

The first range where there's a lot of tasks is n=14M.
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Message 106335 - Posted: 23 Mar 2017 | 18:36:31 UTC
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I've put together progress tables that match the tables I'm using for the PSP double check:

EDIT: This table is now grouped by "n" (in millions), rather than by FFT size.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 375 | 331 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 284 | 0 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 463 | 0 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 643 | 641 | 0 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 1343 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 1256 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 1072 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1182 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 10015 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8988 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 7841 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0568 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7561 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0124 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3110 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6778 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1215 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8194 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2886 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0701 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 27 | 67.461 | 0.0015 | 27,284,468 | 27,284,468 | 8,213,448 | 8,213,448 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6524 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0953 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,183.931 | 17.2992 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10521 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,587.846 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 147274 | 1763 | 331 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 99.8315 | 0.1524 | 0.0160 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 10,478,863 | 3,154,457 | +------------+------------+

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Message 106360 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017 | 14:32:39 UTC

What are the bookmakers' odds we will find anything during this double check? I mean, what are the chances there exists one or more k (out of the five relevant ones) such that a prime k*2^n+1 exists for some n between 7 million and 31 million? Anyone wants to make a bet? /JeppeSN

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Message 106361 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017 | 15:02:50 UTC - in response to Message 106360.

What are the bookmakers' odds we will find anything during this double check? I mean, what are the chances there exists one or more k (out of the five relevant ones) such that a prime k*2^n+1 exists for some n between 7 million and 31 million? Anyone wants to make a bet? /JeppeSN


That is a REALLY good question.

On the one hand, SoB itself found two missed primes during their own double checks. So there's good reason to believe that some of the tests they did which have only been single checked are in fact faulty. It's possible that some of those faulty tests could be missed primes. It seems to me that SoB's double checking stopped around n=14M, so it's probably more likely for a missed prime to be found beyond that point. Of course, the larger the numbers, the less likely primes become, so it's hard to say what will happen. (On BOINC, we just had a leading edge n=31M candidates where THREE different computers returned a faulty result.)

On the other hand, it's not clear whether SoB's double check compared residues. They may have simply run everything twice. If that's what they did, then it's entirely possible for there to have been two faulty calculations on the same number. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. So it's still possible that there's missed primes at lower n values as well.

For me, however, the question I'm more interested in isn't whether we'll find a missed prime, but rather how I'll feel if we do. On the one hand, it will be great news. Another K will be eliminated, and lots of unnecessary crunching at n=31M and above would have been avoided. On the other hand, it also means we've wasted countless thousands of hours of computing in that K that was completely unnecessary and could have been avoided had the search been managed differently.
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Message 106363 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017 | 17:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 106361.

On the other hand, it also means we've wasted countless thousands of hours of computing in that K that was completely unnecessary and could have been avoided had the search been managed differently.


Never feel bad about the state of what you inherit. It was beyond your control until the point you inherited it. From there what you can do is everything you know how to make it right and take pride in making it right. Could there be wasted time? Sure. Will there be more wasted time in the future? Not likely now.
So if a prime is found; I would definitely recommend being happy and not worrying about what happened. Instead focus on how it will affect the project going forward.
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Message 106364 - Posted: 24 Mar 2017 | 18:21:33 UTC

I can't remember if it was economics, game theory, or something else, but there is a guideline that basically says don't let past events lead you into making a bad decision for the future. We can't change the past, so what is the most optimal solution for the future? I'd say at this point, finding a prime in double check is preferable to resuming at leading edge.

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Of course. The past is immutable. We can only change the future. Hopefully we learn from the past to make a better tomorrow.
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In the 1800s, William Shanks spent decades of his life calculating pi using hand written calculations. He would then double-check his own work each evening. He eventually calculated pi to 707 decimal places and had the results published.

In 1944, it was discovered that Shanks had made an error at the 527th decimal place, so all efforts after that were also in error.

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Message 106384 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017 | 9:22:52 UTC - in response to Message 106361.


...
On the other hand, it's not clear whether SoB's double check compared residues. They may have simply run everything twice. If that's what they did, then it's entirely possible for there to have been two faulty calculations on the same number. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. So it's still possible that there's missed primes at lower n values as well.
...


If I understand that http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=519659035 right, it should confirm the assumption that SoB did not compare residues.
We see 3 imported results and obviously, none of them was correct.

Anything misunderstood on my side, or is it really like that....?
If so, strange, at least.

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Message 106395 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017 | 13:49:59 UTC - in response to Message 106384.

If I understand that http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=519659035 right, it should confirm the assumption that SoB did not compare residues.
We see 3 imported results and obviously, none of them was correct.

Anything misunderstood on my side, or is it really like that....?


Uh, yes... :)

What you see in our workunits is a highly distilled end edited version of the raw data we have available. You will NEVER see two matching residues in one of the workunits, for example, because such a candidate would have considered "already double checked" and there would be no need to for us to check it again.

By definition, EVERYTHING you see will only have residues that don't match. (Most of not all of that is because the different tests were run with different programs.)
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Message 106396 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017 | 13:53:40 UTC - in response to Message 106384.
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...
On the other hand, it's not clear whether SoB's double check compared residues. They may have simply run everything twice. If that's what they did, then it's entirely possible for there to have been two faulty calculations on the same number. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. So it's still possible that there's missed primes at lower n values as well.
...


If I understand that http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=519659035 right, it should confirm the assumption that SoB did not compare residues.
We see 3 imported results and obviously, none of them was correct.

Anything misunderstood on my side, or is it really like that....?
If so, strange, at least.


It really is like that. For the workunit you're talking about we had three imported residues from the Seventeen or Bust project:

3EF393F6015A6BE8 B057E7A69D238C91 FD50A2621DA6EFC2

Meanwhile, the two PrimeGrid users ran a PRP test and both got the result:
RES64: 7A38561D9950ECE6. OLD64: 6EA90258CBF2C6AE

We don't know which of the forty (40) different distinct versions of the SB software were run. That means we could have matched three different residues from our one test:

7A38561D9950ECE6 (RES64) 6EA90258CBF2C6AE (OLD64) CBF2C6AE6EA90258 (OLD64 w/first and last 8 characters swapped)

None of the residues in the bottom list matched any of the residues in the top list, so the test was sent to a second PrimeGrid user. The two PG users matched exactly.

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Message 106398 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017 | 15:34:02 UTC

Just a question: if someone finds a prime, who is the discoverer? Do you know the name of crunchers from the Seventeen or Bust project?

For a workunit:

    Case A: all the results from the Seventeen or Bust project are invalid. The first that completes the test here at PrimeGrid is the discoverer.
    Case B: there are two (or more) inconclusive validations from the Seventeen or Bust project, but one of them is correctly doublechecked by a PrimeGrid cruncher. Discoverer is...?
    Case C: ...

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Message 106399 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017 | 15:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 106398.
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Just a question: if someone finds a prime, who is the discoverer? Do you know the name of crunchers from the Seventeen or Bust project?

For a workunit:
    Case A: all the results from the Seventeen or Bust project are invalid. The first that completes the test here at PrimeGrid is the discoverer.
    Case B: there are two (or more) inconclusive validations from the Seventeen or Bust project, but one of them is correctly doublechecked by a PrimeGrid cruncher. Discoverer is...?
    Case C: ...


Case B can't happen, or at the very least, it's extremely unlikely to happen. If we were to assume a prime is to be found and one of the SoB results was correct, then it would have showed up as prime when it was first reported, at which point it would have been independently tested and cofirmed prime long ago.

This leaves us with Case A as the only real other option, at which point it would just work like any other prime here at PG.

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Message 106400 - Posted: 25 Mar 2017 | 17:37:21 UTC - in response to Message 106398.

Just a question: if someone finds a prime, who is the discoverer? Do you know the name of crunchers from the Seventeen or Bust project?

For a workunit:
    Case A: all the results from the Seventeen or Bust project are invalid. The first that completes the test here at PrimeGrid is the discoverer.
    Case B: there are two (or more) inconclusive validations from the Seventeen or Bust project, but one of them is correctly doublechecked by a PrimeGrid cruncher. Discoverer is...?
    Case C: ...



Every single one of the 534794 residues in the database that come from the SoB project, is, by definition, composite. If any of their results were instead prime, that prime would have, therefore, been discovered years ago.


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So if we complete those 150000 tasks we can consider that all Units of Work below 32M was tested at least twice and it is provable that there are no lost primes below 32M ?

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Message 106428 - Posted: 26 Mar 2017 | 18:57:54 UTC - in response to Message 106425.

So if we complete those 150000 tasks we can consider that all Units of Work below 32M was tested at least twice and it is provable that there is no lost primes below 32M ?


Below 31M+, not 32M. We're about halfway through the 31M-32M range with our leading edge work. We'll resume that work once the double check is over.

All candidates up to the current leading edge (exactly n=31626727) will have been checked at least twice once the double check is complete. Note that this means at least two MATCHING residues, rather than merely having two "it's composite" results, so there's virtually no possibility of a double error causing a missed prime.


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Message 106431 - Posted: 26 Mar 2017 | 19:50:40 UTC

Except we arent doublechecking the k of the most recently found Prime.
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Message 106432 - Posted: 26 Mar 2017 | 20:25:00 UTC - in response to Message 106431.

Except we arent doublechecking the k of the most recently found Prime.


Correct.

We also are not double checking the other 11 ks previously found by SoB, nor the many ks eliminated before that. We're not looking to verify that any of those primes are the smallest prime for those ks. This double check is going to be a multi-year effort as it is and we don't want to make it even longer. Double checking just the one k=10223 prime we found last year would likely add between 1 and 2 years to the double check effort.
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Message 106436 - Posted: 27 Mar 2017 | 9:32:43 UTC

I still have some SoB 7.06 units running on some computers and I saw SoB 8.0 coming in.
I'm just curious what the difference is? Is the new version more stable?
Should I abort 7.06 units that have not yet run for very long?

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Message 106437 - Posted: 27 Mar 2017 | 10:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 106436.

I still have some SoB 7.06 units running on some computers and I saw SoB 8.0 coming in.
I'm just curious what the difference is? Is the new version more stable?
Should I abort 7.06 units that have not yet run for very long?

New version just adds functionality, none of which are needed for old tasks. No need to bother aborting, just let whatever you have complete and don't bother with it.

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Message 106441 - Posted: 27 Mar 2017 | 12:26:28 UTC - in response to Message 106436.

I still have some SoB 7.06 units running on some computers and I saw SoB 8.0 coming in.
I'm just curious what the difference is? Is the new version more stable?
Should I abort 7.06 units that have not yet run for very long?


There is absolutely no need to abort existing tasks running 7.06.

Although the new double check tasks require 8.00, you don't need to take any action. It will be sent to you automatically with your next LLR task.

It's perfectly fine to continue running the existing tasks with 7.06. It will produce the exact same result as 8.00.

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Message 106444 - Posted: 27 Mar 2017 | 14:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 106184.

I've updated the plan for increasing task deadlines as the double check progresses. The deadline is currently at 10 days. The full plan is as follows:

Deadlines

The new short double check tasks will start with a deadline of 4 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 8,000,000, I will change the deadline to 6 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 10,000,000, I will change the deadline to 10 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 13,000,000, I will change the deadline to 14 days.

When n reaches 16,000,000, I will change the deadline to 21 days.

When n reaches 23,000,000, I will change the deadline to 28 days.

When n reaches 26,000,000, I will change the deadline to 35 days.

When n reaches 29,000,000, I will change the deadline to 42 days.


Considering how many years this will take, expect adjustments to the deadline plan over time.

Current SoB DC status:

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 31 | 675 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 48 | 236 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 48 | 415 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 409 | 875 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 1312 | 31 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 816 | 440 | 0 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 1072 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1182 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 10015 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8988 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 7841 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0568 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7561 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0124 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3110 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6778 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1215 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8194 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2886 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0701 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 27 | 67.461 | 0.0015 | 27,284,468 | 27,284,468 | 8,213,448 | 8,213,448 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6524 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0953 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,183.931 | 17.2992 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10521 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,587.846 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 144848 | 2288 | 2232 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 99.5087 | 0.2985 | 0.1928 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 12,343,172 | 3,715,670 | +------------+------------+

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Message 106515 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017 | 1:09:04 UTC - in response to Message 106444.

As per the plan, n has hit 13 million and I've increased the deadline to 14 days.


Deadlines

The new short double check tasks will start with a deadline of 4 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 8,000,000, I will change the deadline to 6 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 10,000,000, I will change the deadline to 10 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 13,000,000, I will change the deadline to 14 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 16,000,000, I will change the deadline to 21 days.

When n reaches 23,000,000, I will change the deadline to 28 days.

When n reaches 26,000,000, I will change the deadline to 35 days.

When n reaches 29,000,000, I will change the deadline to 42 days.


Considering how many years this will take, expect adjustments to the deadline plan over time.

Current SoB DC status:

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 2 | 704 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 18 | 266 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 13 | 450 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 120 | 1164 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 494 | 849 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 1211 | 45 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 1032 | 40 | 0 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 10015 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 7841 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 143989 | 1898 | 3478 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 99.3693 | 0.2814 | 0.3493 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 13,031,071 | 3,922,748 | +------------+------------+

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Message 106741 - Posted: 8 Apr 2017 | 15:53:40 UTC

Well, this one is weird. I've swiped through logs -- nonthing suspicious.

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Message 106749 - Posted: 8 Apr 2017 | 23:48:56 UTC - in response to Message 106741.
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Well, this one is weird. I've swiped through logs -- nonthing suspicious.

The one user result returned as of the moment is full of error messages. This might be near an FFT size boundary. The fact that he was using 10 threads may also have something to do with it. I'm running it manually now with the next larger FFT size to see what I get. But it's not at all unusual not to match two or even three existing residues from SB.

Edit: Actually, your result makes no sense whatsoever. The system says it gave you a v8.00 job but when you look at the stderr output it's the wrong wrapper (7.05 instead of 8.00) and the wrong version of LLR (3.8.17 instead of 3.8.20). WTF?

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Message 106977 - Posted: 15 Apr 2017 | 19:33:14 UTC - in response to Message 106749.


Edit: Actually, your result makes no sense whatsoever. The system says it gave you a v8.00 job but when you look at the stderr output it's the wrong wrapper (7.05 instead of 8.00) and the wrong version of LLR (3.8.17 instead of 3.8.20). WTF?


Excuse me, sir, I beg to differ. While it's not 8.00, it's 7.06 (also that explains llr_3.8.17):


08-Apr-2017 07:30:55 [PrimeGrid] [slot] linked ../../projects/www.primegrid.com/primegrid_llr_wrapper_7.06_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu to slots/0/primegrid_llr_wrapper_7.06_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu


(lucky me, I have slot-debug enabled). Still, I see 7.05 laying in /projects/ ; its utime is 2016Apr4, should I get rid of it? Also, I see that 7.06 is still in use, so I won't go reset right now.

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Message 106980 - Posted: 15 Apr 2017 | 20:14:22 UTC - in response to Message 106977.

Whynot,

Something bizarre occurred on your computer, and we can not figure out from our end what may have happened. You were definitely sent v8.00 of the software, but if your logs show that you executed v7.06 we have no explanation. The one thing that is certain is that 7.06 is incapable of running those tasks.

My only advice to you is to completely wipe your BOINC installation and reinstall. Beyond that, we are not going to be able to help you further with this problem. Good luck.
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Message 106986 - Posted: 15 Apr 2017 | 23:15:32 UTC - in response to Message 106977.
Last modified: 15 Apr 2017 | 23:17:01 UTC

whynot wrote:
JimB wrote:

Edit: Actually, your result makes no sense whatsoever. The system says it gave you a v8.00 job but when you look at the stderr output it's the wrong wrapper (7.05 instead of 8.00) and the wrong version of LLR (3.8.17 instead of 3.8.20). WTF?


Excuse me, sir, I beg to differ. While it's not 8.00, it's 7.06 (also that explains llr_3.8.17):


08-Apr-2017 07:30:55 [PrimeGrid] [slot] linked ../../projects/www.primegrid.com/primegrid_llr_wrapper_7.06_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu to slots/0/primegrid_llr_wrapper_7.06_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu


(lucky me, I have slot-debug enabled). Still, I see 7.05 laying in /projects/ ; its utime is 2016Apr4, should I get rid of it? Also, I see that 7.06 is still in use, so I won't go reset right now.

stderr on your result wrote:
<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
BOINC llr wrapper (version 7.05)
Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
LLR Program - Version 3.8.17, using Gwnum Library Version 28.8
07:30:56 (2410): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

The version of the wrapper doesn't necessarily always correspond to the application version, but we synced them up for 8.00. The server thinks you were running 8.00 there, I can't explain why your computer ran an older version. I do see that computer is running BOINC 6.10.58. You cannot use app_config.xml with a client that old. https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration says app_config.xml support started with client 7.0.40+. In your situation, I'd set No New Tasks, wait for all jobs to be over, detach from PG, upgrade BOINC and reattach to PG. I had a computer with a too-old BOINC on it and used debian's wheezy-backports to get a newer version. That's much easier than trying to compile one myself. My computer is now running client 7.4.23.

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Message 107211 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017 | 22:34:21 UTC

We have reached the 1% complete mark!

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 2 | 1282 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 5 | 1338 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 5 | 1251 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 75 | 997 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 7069 | 1863 | 1083 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 7841 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 140011 | 1950 | 7404 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 98.5834 | 0.3952 | 1.0214 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 14,264,047 | 4,293,911 | +------------+------------+

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Message 107220 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017 | 13:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 107211.

Are their still many leading edge candidates out there in progress from prior to beginning the double check? Are we close to 100% double checking now?

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Message 107222 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017 | 13:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 107220.

Are their still many leading edge candidates out there in progress from prior to beginning the double check? Are we close to 100% double checking now?

Thanks,
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Consider the horror stories with SoB wingmen. Also consider that if you click on "oldest workunit" for SoB on the subproject status you will see a workunit that began 10.5 months ago. It will take many months before all those leading edge tasks are completed. We started this double check only a month ago.

As of right now there are 844 leading edge tasks still in play, but the odds of getting one when you request SoB work are small. As of right now, only 3 of those are waiting to be sent out. The rest (841) are out being processed.
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Message 107230 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017 | 16:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 107222.

Thanks for the update. In my last batch of four tasks requested I got 2 double checks and 2 leading edge tasks. I don't mind either one. I'll try to finish whatever I get, I was just curious what the ratio was.

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Message 107884 - Posted: 13 May 2017 | 12:17:58 UTC

We have now completed 2 percent of the double check. The number of older leading edge tasks still in progress has dropped to 416; it was over 2000 at the beginning of the double check.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 3 | 1069 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 2300 | 1943 | 5772 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 7841 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 135242 | 1946 | 12177 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 97.5733 | 0.4170 | 2.0096 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 14,722,726 | 4,431,987 | +------------+------------+

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,719)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,179,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,330,821)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,254,873)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,795)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,048,315)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,680,461)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,324,283)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,175,834)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,881,239)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (42,663,419)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,028,791)
Message 108248 - Posted: 31 May 2017 | 13:35:03 UTC

The double check is now 3% complete. Only 231 full-sized leading edge tasks are still in progress.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 480 | 9535 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 5604 | 1482 | 755 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 130705 | 1962 | 16698 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 96.5431 | 0.4511 | 3.0058 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 15,271,091 | 4,597,062 | +------------+------------+

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Message 108470 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017 | 3:03:05 UTC

Not sure if this is where this should go but averaging roughly 2 days per WU. I6700K with hyperthreading. Thought someone might find that useful. I am really new to SOB and PrimeGrid though so may be doing it all wrong.

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Message 108472 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017 | 3:15:16 UTC - in response to Message 108470.

Not sure if this is where this should go but averaging roughly 2 days per WU. I6700K with hyperthreading. Thought someone might find that useful. I am really new to SOB and PrimeGrid though so may be doing it all wrong.


First of all, welcome to PrimeGrid!

As with all LLR projects (as well as CPU versions of GFN projects), you'll get better speeds by turning hyperthreading off. By "better speeds" I mean that the tasks should run *more* than twice as fast with hyperthreading turned off. You'll be running half as many tasks at once, of course, but that will be more than offset by the speed increase.

If you can't or don't want to turn off hyperthreading, you can get similar results by telling BOINC to use 50% of the CPUs.


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Message 108475 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017 | 6:55:19 UTC
Last modified: 10 Jun 2017 | 7:07:12 UTC

Welcome.
Yes, do as Michael suggested with hyperthreading but yeah those times seem about right otherwise. (Only thing you might need it on for at the moment is GCW Sieve I think?)

I think there are also a few old leading edge tasks still floating about and you might get one of those. Should likely take about a week or more if you do.
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Message 108485 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017 | 12:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 108472.

Thank you all so much for the quick replies. I am really liking this project thus far. Keep up all the great work and I will play around with turning hyper threading off and 50% to see how that effects the other programs I need for work.
Best
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Message 108494 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017 | 20:19:42 UTC - in response to Message 108485.

either turn off HT *or* use 50% of cores, not both
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Message 108502 - Posted: 11 Jun 2017 | 8:22:06 UTC
Last modified: 11 Jun 2017 | 8:58:31 UTC

Something else you can try is Process Lasso (https://bitsum.com/?inproduct) or similar where you can permanently set the affinity to each app. Set all LLR sub projects (all run the same app) to run only on physical cores 0,2,4,6 (similar to turning HT off but only for that app. Do the same for GFN CPU apps. Yes there are a few slightly different ones). Leave the sieve app on 0-7 cores. And set the GPU apps on 1,3,5,7 when running LLR or GFN CPU or 0-7 if only running sieves. This works the best for me without turning HT off (and back on for sieves) and slightly better performance than the setting of 'use 50% of processors' which still uses all threads leaving HT confliction going on. It only limits total throughput to 50% and not limit to only physical cores which you want for LLR CPU and GFN CPU apps
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Message 108612 - Posted: 13 Jun 2017 | 23:06:33 UTC

Very small sample size so far but previously with 8 cores and HT turned on. I was running on 75% cores so 6 threads at once with a range of completion times from 177,000 sec of runtime to a high of 203,000 seconds or roughly 6 WUs returned every 2d4-5h...

Now with HT turned off running 3 cores been averaging 90,000 seconds to 109,000 seconds of runtime or 3 WUs getting done roughly every 22 hours. Thank you for the tips and heres to happy crunching!

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Message 108722 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017 | 12:55:02 UTC

The SoB double check is now 4% completed. 97 full size leading edge tasks are still out in the field being processed.

The double check is approaching n=16M. At approximately n=16M I will increase the deadline from 14 days to 21 days, as previously announced.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 46 | 9969 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 1612 | 1691 | 4538 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 11126 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 126713 | 1737 | 20915 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 95.5721 | 0.4274 | 4.0005 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 15,764,098 | 4,745,472 | +------------+------------+

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Message 108823 - Posted: 3 Jul 2017 | 16:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 106444.

As per the plan, now that n is above 16 million, I have increased the deadline to 21 days.


Deadlines

The new short double check tasks will start with a deadline of 4 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 8,000,000, I will change the deadline to 6 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 10,000,000, I will change the deadline to 10 days. (DONE)

When n reaches 13,000,000, I will change the deadline to 14 days.

When n reaches 16,000,000, I will change the deadline to 21 days.

When n reaches 23,000,000, I will change the deadline to 28 days.

When n reaches 26,000,000, I will change the deadline to 35 days.

When n reaches 29,000,000, I will change the deadline to 42 days.



Current SoB DC status:

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 23 | 9992 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 1845 | 5996 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 10851 | 275 | 0 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 124826 | 2143 | 22396 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 95.0906 | 0.5429 | 4.3664 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 16,024,571 | 4,823,882 | +------------+------------+

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Message 109058 - Posted: 24 Jul 2017 | 14:27:33 UTC

5% of the double check is now complete. We're approximately 4 months in, and at this rate the double check will take between 6 and 7 years to complete.

Also, 48 leading edge tasks from workunits started before the double check are still in progress.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 2 | 10013 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 151 | 7690 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 7967 | 2007 | 1152 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 121942 | 2160 | 25263 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 94.3314 | 0.5688 | 5.0998 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 16,289,878 | 4,903,747 | +------------+------------+

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Message 109067 - Posted: 24 Jul 2017 | 19:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 109058.

5% of the double check is now complete. We're approximately 4 months in, and at this rate the double check will take between 6 and 7 years to complete.


Maybe a challenge or two before the tasks get too large again to create some boosts in speed?
How long has it been since a SOB challenge? Seems like now would be the time.

I looked at the Challenge Series page. Looks like no dedicated SOB challenges since 2008. One in early 2015 that was a three project LLR challenge that had some SOB.

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Message 109069 - Posted: 24 Jul 2017 | 20:02:22 UTC - in response to Message 109067.

5% of the double check is now complete. We're approximately 4 months in, and at this rate the double check will take between 6 and 7 years to complete.


Maybe a challenge or two before the tasks get too large again to create some boosts in speed?
How long has it been since a SOB challenge? Seems like now would be the time.

I looked at the Challenge Series page. Looks like no dedicated SOB challenges since 2008. One in early 2015 that was a three project LLR challenge that had some SOB.


It had been our intention to run an SoB challenge earlier this year in order to have a nice start to the double check However, we needed to delay the start of the double check and ended up not running that challenge. It's likely we'll run an SoB challenge in 2018.
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Message 109079 - Posted: 25 Jul 2017 | 13:41:52 UTC - in response to Message 109069.

It's likely we'll run an SoB challenge in 2018.


Good. It was suggested here that I should expect that to happen.

...you can expect the SoB challenge to repeat for as many years as it takes to finish the SoB double check.


I'm looking forward to it.

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Message 109327 - Posted: 12 Aug 2017 | 12:44:00 UTC - in response to Message 109058.

(July 24)

Also, 48 leading edge tasks from workunits started before the double check are still in progress.



I see on the SOB stats page that two multipliers (values of k) have finished all their old leading edge tasks, namely 21181 and 67607. /JeppeSN

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Message 109329 - Posted: 12 Aug 2017 | 13:37:39 UTC - in response to Message 109327.

(July 24)
Also, 48 leading edge tasks from workunits started before the double check are still in progress.



I see on the SOB stats page that two multipliers (values of k) have finished all their old leading edge tasks, namely 21181 and 67607. /JeppeSN


As of this morning there's only 4 leading edge candidates still in play. If the computers involved keep making progress they should all be done in a week or two.

That's in large part due to Jim and I manually running wingmen tasks for many tasks that looked like they were going to needlessly wait weeks upon weeks for tasks that were going to time out anyway. I plugged in two results earlier today, one of which would have timed out and been sent to a new computer in September. Now it's done.
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Message 109412 - Posted: 19 Aug 2017 | 11:56:48 UTC

The last of the leading edge candidates has finished. All ks on the SoB status page now show DC candidates in the the "max in progress" column. I.e., "max in progress" is now in the 16 million range.

There's a handful of straggling, superfluous leading edge tasks still running out there, but their results aren't needed and once they finish, successful or not, no new tasks will be sent out in those workunits. From this point on any SoB tasks that are sent out are guaranteed to be the shorter DC tasks.
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Message 109503 - Posted: 22 Aug 2017 | 20:37:07 UTC

The double check is now 6% complete. Candidates are just under 5 million digits in length.

All of the large, leading edge candidates that were still being tested when the double check began have been validated, so there's no chance of a leading edge prime until after the double check is completed. Of course, it's possible we'll find a missed prime during the double check, which is why we're doing this. Although all the leading edge candidates have been validated, there's still 11 redundant/unnecessary leading edge tasks still in progress, approximately 5 months after the double check began.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 10 | 7831 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 4765 | 1781 | 4580 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 118740 | 1791 | 28834 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 93.4593 | 0.4887 | 6.0520 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 16,574,660 | 4,989,475 | +------------+------------+

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Message 109605 - Posted: 26 Aug 2017 | 0:51:39 UTC

We're now checking candidates 5 million digits long!

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 6 | 7835 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 4283 | 1900 | 4943 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 118258 | 1906 | 29201 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 93.3254 | 0.5229 | 6.1517 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 16,620,223 | 5,003,191 | +------------+------------+

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Message 110317 - Posted: 19 Sep 2017 | 5:42:02 UTC

The double check is now 7% complete.

Candidates are over five million digits in length.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 1182 | 1941 | 8003 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8820 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 115157 | 1941 | 32267 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 92.4473 | 0.5506 | 7.0022 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 16,894,846 | 5,085,861 | +------------+------------+

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Message 110471 - Posted: 26 Sep 2017 | 19:22:15 UTC

We have passed n=17 million! The double check is now 7.3% complete.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 1942 | 9184 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 8708 | 112 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 113863 | 2054 | 33448 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 92.0714 | 0.5912 | 7.3374 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 17,211,286 | 5,181,119 | +------------+------------+

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Message 110472 - Posted: 26 Sep 2017 | 19:36:39 UTC

If you're wondering why the double check completely skipped the range from n=17.0 million to n=17.2 million, that's because 17.0 to 17.2 is the first range that PrimeGrid processed when we started collaborating with Seventeen Or Bust. Since it was done here and already fully double checked, there's nothing further to check in that range. Once all the in-progress tasks are completed, we will have completely double checked all the work Seventeen Or Bust did prior to PrimeGrid's involvement in the search.

Similarly, we'll also be skipping 18.0 to 18.5, 20.0 to 22.0, and 27.0 to 28.0 because those are also ranges that were done at PrimeGrid.
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Message 110511 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 2:43:13 UTC

So I've got a task with an inconclusive result comparing only the imported residue. Would you say that an inconclusive result is "necessary, but not sufficient" for finding a prime in the DC?

NB. all my other SoB DC tasks (24 of them) have had good results, so the chance of a bad result from this computer is fairly low. How many imported residues so far have been shown to be incorrect?

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Message 110512 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 3:22:29 UTC - in response to Message 110511.
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How many imported residues so far have been shown to be incorrect?

A significant number of the imported residues have been wrong. I've hit quite a few myself. Here's one of them.

Of the imported results currently in the system:
2187 are waiting for a user to finish
3943 are valid
170 are invalid
40 are inconclusive

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Message 110513 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 5:05:52 UTC - in response to Message 110511.

So I've got a task with an inconclusive result comparing only the imported residue. Would you say that an inconclusive result is "necessary, but not sufficient" for finding a prime in the DC?


Yes. That's exactly correct.
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Message 110515 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 5:48:39 UTC - in response to Message 110512.


A significant number of the imported residues have been wrong. I've hit quite a few myself. Here's one of them.

Of the imported results currently in the system:
2187 are waiting for a user to finish
3943 are valid
170 are invalid
40 are inconclusive

Of the total completed so far, the fraction of imported residues which are invalid or inconclusive =~ 5%.

If this average rate holds, we should expect to see first-pass double-check tasks not matching the imported residues approximately once for every 20 candidates double-checked.

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Message 110517 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 12:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 110515.
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Of the total completed so far, the fraction of imported residues which are invalid or inconclusive =~ 5%.

If this average rate holds, we should expect to see first-pass double-check tasks not matching the imported residues approximately once for every 20 candidates double-checked.


That's not from the total completed so far. It's from the workunits that exist at this time. When a workunit is purged, the validated residue stays in our science table but the individual residues involved in that workunit are deleted. While it's possible to compare the science table to the imported list of residues, it's not just a matter of matching them up. There are three different ways the residues can be considered to match and in at least 80% of the cases we're not retaining the residue in the same format that the SOB Project did. We're keeping the values as returned by LLR today. The canonical residue is always the one generated by our LLR run.

So what I'm saying is that the invalid percentage can certainly vary over time. SOB had no way of knowing which hosts were malfunctioning as double checks were delayed, sometimes for years. With users pushing their processor and RAM frequencies as high as possible, it depends on the exact population of hosts that did the crunching at any given time.

At the end of the double check, the list of imported residues will be worthless. I'll keep it, because I'm a packrat and it took far too long to construct. The real data will be in our science table, which will be populated with residues generated by two matching results.

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Message 110552 - Posted: 29 Sep 2017 | 21:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 110512.
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A significant number of the imported residues have been wrong. I've hit quite a few myself.

I've gotten a couple inconclusive ones too, and I haven't even processed that many tasks.

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A significant number of the imported residues have been wrong. I've hit quite a few myself.

I've gotten a couple inconclusive ones too, and I haven't even processed that many tasks.


They're neither unusual nor worrisome. They are the result of either a calculation error in the original SoB task, or from your computer. My money's on your computer being the one that's right. :)
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Message 110563 - Posted: 30 Sep 2017 | 16:54:02 UTC - in response to Message 110554.

They're neither unusual nor worrisome. They can be the result of either a calculation error in the original SoB task, or the result of the original task using incompatible software.


Right. If it's a calculation error in the original task, then it's good we're double checking! Based on the previous discussion, though, it seems like most inconclusive results are due to incompatible software?

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Message 110580 - Posted: 30 Sep 2017 | 23:32:46 UTC - in response to Message 110563.

kswag wrote:
Right. If it's a calculation error in the original task, then it's good we're double checking! Based on the previous discussion, though, it seems like most inconclusive results are due to incompatible software?

No, we're compatible with every version of the SOB client. I'm the one who went through all their available residues and created both the list of candidates that needed testing and the list of residues (up to three different values for each candidate). The SOB project didn't seem to try to match residues. Sometimes that was unavoidable because they waited so long to double check results that their current client was incompatible with the previous one. There's a special validation routine in effect for the SoB DC that can match our residues with any SOB client version. We had previously gotten complete data dumps for the two k values assigned to PrimeGrid (10223 and 67607), so I was able to analyze their data pretty thoroughly. Inconclusive results are due to errors while testing, either on the part of SOB or on the part of our users.

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No, we're compatible with every version of the SOB client. I'm the one who went through all their available residues and created both the list of candidates that needed testing and the list of residues (up to three different values for each candidate). The SOB project didn't seem to try to match residues. Sometimes that was unavoidable because they waited so long to double check results that their current client was incompatible with the previous one. There's a special validation routine in effect for the SoB DC that can match our residues with any SOB client version. We had previously gotten complete data dumps for the two k values assigned to PrimeGrid (10223 and 67607), so I was able to analyze their data pretty thoroughly. Inconclusive results are due to errors while testing, either on the part of SOB or on the part of our users.


Thanks for explaining! Another stupid question -- what measures are you taking to backup the current results? I'd hate to see the new results lost in the (unlikely) case of a server failure.

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Message 110676 - Posted: 6 Oct 2017 | 12:31:27 UTC - in response to Message 110670.

Thanks for explaining! Another stupid question -- what measures are you taking to backup the current results? I'd hate to see the new results lost in the (unlikely) case of a server failure.


We're in the process of moving to a new environment, so details will be changing. But in general, everything is stored on at least two servers as well as an off site backup.

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Message 110679 - Posted: 6 Oct 2017 | 14:46:10 UTC

The double check is now 8% completed!

Candidates currently being checked are over 5 million digits in length and n is nearly at 17.5 million.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 641 | 10485 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 5935 | 1654 | 1231 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 111090 | 2295 | 35980 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 91.2308 | 0.6876 | 8.0817 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 17,466,980 | 5,258,090 | +------------+------------+

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Message 110920 - Posted: 21 Oct 2017 | 13:54:35 UTC

The double check is now 9% complete!

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 139 | 10987 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 3204 | 1764 | 3852 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5675 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 108359 | 1903 | 39103 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 90.3787 | 0.5901 | 9.0312 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 17,709,871 | 5,331,207 | +------------+------------+

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Message 111320 - Posted: 9 Nov 2017 | 15:57:18 UTC

The double check has passed the 10% mark!

At about the same time, we've also reached n=18M, and immediately skipped to n=18.5M. The 18M to 18.5M range was originally crunched on PrimeGrid and was completely double checked when the original tests were done.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 20 | 11106 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 0 | 1758 | 7062 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 5336 | 339 | 0 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 104816 | 2117 | 42432 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 89.2313 | 0.6887 | 10.0799 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 18,531,271 | 5,578,473 | +------------+------------+

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Message 111342 - Posted: 11 Nov 2017 | 20:42:37 UTC

First -- hooray!

Second. Because The Ten Percent Progress is kinda sacral for DC people, is it possible to update estimated time to finish for The Double Check?

p.s. Also how about The Double Check Challenge?

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Message 111343 - Posted: 11 Nov 2017 | 20:58:44 UTC - in response to Message 111342.

First -- hooray!

Second. Because The Ten Percent Progress is kinda sacral for DC people, is it possible to update estimated time to finish for The Double Check?

p.s. Also how about The Double Check Challenge?


Five years still seems like a decent estimate.

As for challenges, look here.
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Message 111468 - Posted: 15 Nov 2017 | 16:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 106361.
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About two k's found in the double check by original SoB. Were them 4847 and 33611? Their n's are significantly less then previous found.

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Message 111471 - Posted: 15 Nov 2017 | 18:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 111468.

About two k's found in the double check by original SoB. Were them 4847 and 33611? Their n's are significantly less then previous found.


It actually took a while to get the answer to this. I had to search through the old SoB forums (which, fortunately, are not hosted on the now-deceased SoB server).

Yes, those are the two primes they found during double checks of earlier tests.
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Message 111890 - Posted: 25 Nov 2017 | 7:21:24 UTC

The double check is now 11% complete!

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 8 | 11118 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 0 | 330 | 8490 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 1711 | 2497 | 1467 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 11238 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 101191 | 2835 | 45339 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 87.9541 | 0.9901 | 11.0558 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 18,851,014 | 5,674,726 | +------------+------------+

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Message 111965 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017 | 9:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 111890.
Last modified: 29 Nov 2017 | 9:40:31 UTC

It is interesting is it OK if "CPU Time" = 70.26 sec but "The Whole Time" = 230,176.34 sec

in the following task:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=544970000

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Message 111966 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017 | 11:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 111965.

It is interesting is it OK if "CPU Time" = 70.26 sec but "The Whole Time" = 230,176.34 sec

in the following task:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=544970000

Host that ran that unit.
http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=904671
Note that it is FreeBSD, so the BOINC client had to be modified to work. If you look at all the tasks, the CPU time is very low, which means that it is not measuring the correct information in that build. The RES is matching, and since it's just a cosmetic issue, the units are still valid.

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Message 111969 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017 | 13:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 111965.
Last modified: 29 Nov 2017 | 13:01:47 UTC

It is interesting is it OK if "CPU Time" = 70.26 sec but "The Whole Time" = 230,176.34 sec

in the following task:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=544970000

We have a second datapoint. The actual upload reads as:

21181*2^18676628+1 is not prime. RES64: EB778996ADB413C9. OLD64: C2669CC4091C3B57 Time : 230172.389 sec.

So it's fine.

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Message 111981 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017 | 5:47:07 UTC - in response to Message 111965.

It is interesting is it OK if "CPU Time" = 70.26 sec but "The Whole Time" = 230,176.34 sec

in the following task:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=544970000


The unfortunate part about the other's answers is that it means that your computer is the one that had a calculation error.
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Message 111984 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017 | 8:50:28 UTC - in response to Message 111981.

It is interesting is it OK if "CPU Time" = 70.26 sec but "The Whole Time" = 230,176.34 sec

in the following task:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=544970000


The unfortunate part about the other's answers is that it means that your computer is the one that had a calculation error.



Yes.
About every tenth my SoB task has a calculation error. But my machine is always on (24 hours per day).
But sometimes I press "Suspend" button in BOINC in order to do my daily work. And sometimes I reload my machine (but before this I always press "Suspend" button in BOINC).

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Message 111985 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017 | 9:38:06 UTC

I once had 4 SoBs in progress, had done multiple suspends/resumes, & suddenly upon the next resume they all blew up. So you have to be committed before starting them. Maybe try stepping down CPU overclock a notch if it's set.

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Message 112000 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017 | 2:44:16 UTC

That FreeBSD client is one of mine. I have two FreeBSD machines running primegrid. The BOINC clients are running in dedicated freebsd jails. It was a bit of a nightmare getting the client to run in the first place. When I finally got the client to run I noticed the CPU time discrepancies. However, the clients have been running 24/7 for months now and I think all but one result have been validated. So, it doesn't appear to be anything but a cosmetic issue.

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Message 112011 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017 | 21:28:06 UTC

"N" has now surpassed 19 million.

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 6 | 11120 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 0 | 172 | 8648 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 0 | 2507 | 3168 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 10989 | 249 | 0 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 99231 | 2934 | 47200 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 87.2453 | 1.0434 | 11.7113 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 19,023,644 | 5,726,692 | +------------+------------+

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Message 112059 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017 | 12:57:46 UTC - in response to Message 112011.

Michael,

I am about to turn my systems onto SoB. Since we are into double-checking mode, we are effectively without a double-checker for each unit since we are going against reference data. Does this mean that we can slightly extend our queue from 0 to one or two extra units without having to worry about being first to report a particular result?

Only reason I ask is that I am looking to have my systems crunching round the clock and irrespective if my connection has dropped for an hour while enjoying my beauty sleep.

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Message 112060 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017 | 13:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 112059.

Michael,

I am about to turn my systems onto SoB. Since we are into double-checking mode, we are effectively without a double-checker for each unit since we are going against reference data. Does this mean that we can slightly extend our queue from 0 to one or two extra units without having to worry about being first to report a particular result?

Only reason I ask is that I am looking to have my systems crunching round the clock and irrespective if my connection has dropped for an hour while enjoying my beauty sleep.


Yes, you can increase the queue, but to be polite to other users I'd suggest only increasing as necessary. Bad residues from the SoB project are not uncommon, so we're frequently waiting for a third computer to break the tie. Waiting a few days for you to work through a queue is unnecessary.

Since these tests are so long (my Haswell only does two a day, multithreading), increasing the queue to "several units" is a day or longer on the queue, right? That's a bit of overkill if you're talking about an hour or two of outage.

If it were me, I'd keep the cache to a minimum necessary to keep the pipeline from going dry. And not because of the wingmen. These are LONG tasks, and whenever I want to switch what the computer is doing, I have to wait for them to finish. It's bad enough I may need to to wait half a day for the current task to complete. I' don't want to also wait another week for the queue to get processed. I want to make the switch now.

FWIW, I've been running SoB for a while now -- with no cache. It just makes it that much easier to switch things around.

That being said, please feel free to do it any way you wish. It's your computer!
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Message 112062 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017 | 13:32:56 UTC - in response to Message 112060.

That being said, please feel free to do it any way you wish. It's your computer!

In fact, given the length of the tasks, one task awaiting in queue is perfect for me and which will be immediately available to run when the existing unit completes is just fine and even if that means that I wake up to find the USB WiFi adapter down for some reason the past, say, three hours and for the result to be delayed by these 3 hrs for reporting purposes.

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That being said, please feel free to do it any way you wish. It's your computer!

In fact, given the length of the tasks, one task awaiting in queue is perfect for me and which will be immediately available to run when the existing unit completes is just fine and even if that means that I wake up to find the USB WiFi adapter down for some reason the past, say, three hours and for the result to be delayed by these 3 hrs for reporting purposes.

Thanks.


Also note that you don't set the cache to "N units" -- you set it to "N hours" (Actually, "N days".) Whatever the maximum outage you expect due to worst possible timing of the wifi going down combined with sleep, travels, etc., I'd double that value and use that as the cache setting.

It really doesn't matter how many tasks are in the queue -- only that there's enough work (as expressed in units of time) to cover any period when the computer can't reach the Internet. If, for example, your maximum outage is one hour, it is perfectly alright to have no extra tasks as long as the current task is going to run for at least another hour. Once it gets down to just 2 hours remaining, that's the time to grab the next task. Even with worst case timing, you still have enough time to reconnect before running dry.
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Message 112065 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017 | 14:03:58 UTC - in response to Message 112063.

That being said, please feel free to do it any way you wish. It's your computer!

In fact, given the length of the tasks, one task awaiting in queue is perfect for me and which will be immediately available to run when the existing unit completes is just fine and even if that means that I wake up to find the USB WiFi adapter down for some reason the past, say, three hours and for the result to be delayed by these 3 hrs for reporting purposes.

Thanks.


Also note that you don't set the cache to "N units" -- you set it to "N hours" (Actually, "N days".) Whatever the maximum outage you expect due to worst possible timing of the wifi going down combined with sleep, travels, etc., I'd double that value and use that as the cache setting.

It really doesn't matter how many tasks are in the queue -- only that there's enough work (as expressed in units of time) to cover any period when the computer can't reach the Internet. If, for example, your maximum outage is one hour, it is perfectly alright to have no extra tasks as long as the current task is going to run for at least another hour. Once it gets down to just 2 hours remaining, that's the time to grab the next task. Even with worst case timing, you still have enough time to reconnect before running dry.

I agree on ALL counts and where I will set my cache to 0.5 days and which will keep me covered round the clock and no matter how long I am away from home and/or sleeping. One of my USB WiFi adapters is problematic and likes to hang every 5-6-7-8 hrs; I am simply looking to avoid any sort of downtime when it does decide to take a break. With a single unit always awaiting execution, I am covered no matter how long the USB adapter has been offline. (yes, the USB adapter will be replaced)

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Message 112088 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017 | 5:14:34 UTC

The double check is now 12% complete!

+--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | nM | Work | Work % | Min N | Max N | Min Digits | Max Digits | Waiting | InProgress | Done | Prime | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ | 7 | 1,770.573 | 0.0394 | 7,000,030 | 7,995,980 | 2,107,224 | 2,407,035 | 0 | 0 | 706 | 0 | | 8 | 931.098 | 0.0207 | 8,001,631 | 8,998,966 | 2,408,736 | 2,708,964 | 0 | 0 | 284 | 0 | | 9 | 1,938.402 | 0.0431 | 9,012,190 | 9,999,020 | 2,712,945 | 3,010,010 | 0 | 0 | 463 | 0 | | 10 | 6,414.578 | 0.1428 | 10,000,138 | 10,999,903 | 3,010,347 | 3,311,306 | 0 | 0 | 1284 | 0 | | 11 | 8,076.425 | 0.1798 | 11,001,550 | 11,997,463 | 3,311,802 | 3,611,601 | 0 | 0 | 1343 | 0 | | 12 | 8,895.538 | 0.1980 | 12,000,051 | 12,999,466 | 3,612,381 | 3,913,234 | 0 | 0 | 1256 | 0 | | 13 | 8,855.669 | 0.1971 | 13,000,707 | 13,998,463 | 3,913,608 | 4,213,962 | 0 | 0 | 1072 | 0 | | 14 | 95,163.346 | 2.1183 | 14,000,180 | 14,999,911 | 4,214,479 | 4,515,428 | 0 | 0 | 10015 | 0 | | 15 | 85,305.365 | 1.8989 | 15,000,007 | 15,999,607 | 4,515,457 | 4,816,367 | 0 | 0 | 7841 | 0 | | 16 | 137,328.113 | 3.0569 | 16,000,030 | 16,999,988 | 4,816,494 | 5,117,511 | 0 | 3 | 11123 | 0 | | 17 | 123,820.150 | 2.7562 | 17,200,030 | 17,999,983 | 5,177,730 | 5,418,540 | 0 | 114 | 8706 | 0 | | 18 | 90,408.068 | 2.0125 | 18,500,407 | 18,999,991 | 5,569,182 | 5,719,572 | 0 | 1702 | 3973 | 0 | | 19 | 193,676.028 | 4.3112 | 19,000,100 | 19,999,951 | 5,719,605 | 6,020,590 | 10179 | 1031 | 28 | 0 | | 22 | 255,082.105 | 5.6781 | 22,000,100 | 22,999,951 | 6,622,695 | 6,923,680 | 11120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 23 | 275,011.549 | 6.1218 | 23,000,132 | 23,999,998 | 6,923,734 | 7,224,725 | 10986 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 24 | 306,367.376 | 6.8198 | 24,000,007 | 24,999,994 | 7,224,727 | 7,525,753 | 11255 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 25 | 327,444.733 | 7.2889 | 25,000,004 | 25,999,964 | 7,525,756 | 7,826,774 | 11094 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | 362,555.763 | 8.0705 | 26,000,191 | 26,999,938 | 7,826,842 | 8,127,796 | 11249 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 28 | 703,198.000 | 15.6532 | 28,000,066 | 28,999,988 | 8,428,865 | 8,729,871 | 11406 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 29 | 723,093.574 | 16.0961 | 29,000,023 | 29,999,998 | 8,729,882 | 9,030,905 | 10613 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 30 | 777,009.891 | 17.2963 | 30,000,034 | 30,999,908 | 9,030,915 | 9,331,907 | 10519 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | TOTAL: | 4,492,346.345 | 100.000 | 7,000,030 | 30,999,908 | 2,107,224 | 9,331,907 | 98421 | 2850 | 48094 | 0 | +--------+---------------+---------+------------+------------+------------+------------+---------+------------+-------+-------+ +-----------+---------------+------------+ | Waiting % | In Progress % | Complete % | +-----------+---------------+------------+ | 86.9485 | 1.0216 | 12.0299 | +-----------+---------------+------------+ +------------+------------+ | max n | max digits | +------------+------------+ | 19,098,778 | 5,749,310 | +------------+------------+

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Message 112226 - Posted: 9 Dec 2017 | 13:32:39 UTC

Roughly speaking, we're doing about 1% of the double check every two weeks. At that rate, the double check would proceed as follows:

n=19: 2 months (Feb '18)

n=22: 3 months (May '18)
n=23: 3 months (Jun '18)
n=24: 3.5 months (Sep '18)
n=25: 3.5 months (Jan '19)
n=26: 4 months (May '19)

n=28: 8 months (Jan '20)
n=29: 8 months (Sep '20)
n=30: 8.5 months (Jun '21)

A few notes are in order. There's no 20, 21, or 27 because there's no double check work to be done there. Those ranges were entirely done at PrimeGrid. 28, 29, and 30 are mostly full 2-pass checks. This is the work that was lost when the SoB project imploded.

So roughly there's a year and a half more to finishing double checking older SoB work and then about 2 years of redoing the lost SoB work.
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Message 112227 - Posted: 9 Dec 2017 | 13:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 112226.

Michael,

Is there any extra run time if we hit upon a missed prime during DC? If so, what would be the typical excess as a percentage of normal?

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Message 112228 - Posted: 9 Dec 2017 | 14:16:23 UTC - in response to Message 112227.

Is there any extra run time if we hit upon a missed prime during DC? If so, what would be the typical excess as a percentage of normal?


A prime should take the same amount of time as a composite. No extra passes are needed.
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Message 112248 - Posted: 11 Dec 2017 | 11:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 112228.

It would be nice to make challenges for SoB in 2018 and 2019.
It will greately increase our double check.

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Message 112251 - Posted: 11 Dec 2017 | 12:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 112248.

It would be nice to make challenges for SoB in 2018 and 2019.
It will greately increase our double check.


The plan is to run an SoB challenge each year while the double check is running. Our original plan was to run an SoB challenge in 2017, but the timing didn't work.
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