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Message 7077 - Posted: 26 Sep 2007 | 21:54:12 UTC
Last modified: 27 Sep 2007 | 3:35:05 UTC

A 64-bit Windows executable for gcwsieve has been built. Now we are looking for testers. Anyone interested, please PM me and I'll respond with instructions.

If you are familiar with the sieving process, you can download the 64 bit Windows version of gcwsieve here:

http://www.geocities.com/g_w_reynolds/gcwsieve/gcwsieve-1.1.2-windows-x86-64.zip

The test sieve file can be downloaded here:

http://www.elaurian.org/pg/sieve/cullen4M-5M_20070826_26217.zip

Please test the following range: 1000G-1050G 4M-5M file

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 7080 - Posted: 27 Sep 2007 | 2:44:51 UTC

I just did a quick test with WinXP 64

I did run 1000-1001 1010-1011 1020-1021 1030-1031 4M-5M

on a C2Quad 2,4ghz 2gig ram

364000-365000 p/sec

The only range i can compare to is 3-4M 4000-4400G on Ubuntu 64

399000-401000 p/sec


Both run on all 4 core's

I have not completed any range, only tested speed. It's much faster than 32bit Window's

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 7088 - Posted: 28 Sep 2007 | 1:16:12 UTC

I have now tested this range and can not find any problem.

1000G-1050G 4M-5M

I have done the same on Linux 1000-1010G 64bit

and time is the same.

363000-367000 p/sec On both WinXP64 & Linux64 (Ubuntu)

The computer is Core 2 Quad 2,4Ghz 2G Ram


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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 7164 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 8:56:46 UTC
Last modified: 3 Oct 2007 | 8:59:51 UTC

Hello.

I'am testing to run Boinc and 2 sr2sieve at the same time.

The computer is a C2Duo 6300 1,8Ghz. 2G Ram WinXP x64

Boinc use 16-17% per task

SR2sieve nr 1 use 50%
SR2sieve nr 2 use 16-17%

Someone understand why ?


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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,320,329)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,916)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,221)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,607,806)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (337,061)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,004,155)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,880,022)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,622,944)WW (retired) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,456,000)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 7165 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 9:01:17 UTC - in response to Message 7164.
Last modified: 3 Oct 2007 | 9:01:28 UTC

Someone understand why ?

Apparently sr2sieve #1 gets a whole core, and sr2sieve #2 and other 2 BOINC workunits share another one. Got to love Windows scheduling...
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PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,379)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,199)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (17,655)
Message 7166 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 9:24:21 UTC

Well, I don't see a way do to a better scheduling. In order to give all tasks an euqal amount of CPU time at least one process has to be migrated between the two cores all the time. And that would be a massive overhead which probably would result in a quite bad perfomance.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,320,329)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,916)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,221)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,607,806)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (337,061)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,004,155)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,880,022)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,622,944)WW (retired) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,456,000)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 7167 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 9:27:59 UTC - in response to Message 7166.

If there were 3 processes competing for the time, yes - but there are 4 (two BOINC apps, because BOINC runs one per core, and two sr2sieves), so two should run on one core and two on another.
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Message 7169 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 11:03:53 UTC

OK, that´s correct. Well, anyway I don't think that the verall performance would really be better if the four processes were equally divided on those two cores. The only big difference is that all processes then should get an equal amount of CPU time. If that is imporant for you than the scheduling of windows is indeed bad, otherwise it won't matter.
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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 7173 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 13:48:53 UTC
Last modified: 3 Oct 2007 | 13:51:27 UTC

Now i have restarted the computer and what now!!

Now Boinc primegrid_gcwsieve nr1 at 50%
gcwsive nr2 17%
sr2sieve nr1 16%
sr2sieve nr2 16%

Win 64 works great :-)


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Edit: after about 40 min it come up whith 4x25%

Maybe Bill read's in here :-)
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Message 7230 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007 | 9:46:43 UTC

I tried recently to sieve via boinc on a vista 64-bit platform. Boinc correctly downloaded the 64-bit gcw application (windows version 1.05) but I have some problems.

First off, right at finishing a task boinc manager freezes for about 1 to 3 minutes. Then on many occasions, I get the following message:

13.10.2007 11:40:52|PrimeGrid|Task gcwsieve_260221_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file


I am quite sure the problems is about the application, because LLR runs very smooth on that host. Any chance for a bug fix on that?

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Message 7231 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007 | 10:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 7230.

Does disk usage spike at the time of the launch?
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Message 7234 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007 | 11:06:09 UTC - in response to Message 7231.

Does disk usage spike at the time of the launch?


Yes, a bit, perhaps close to 0.5 MB/s right at the lunch of the sieving app.

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Message 7235 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007 | 11:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 7234.

Does disk usage spike at the time of the launch?


Yes, a bit, perhaps close to 0.5 MB/s right at the lunch of the sieving app.

-D


I think, it is/was not a problem of the application though. I just managed to re-install boinc but this time not into the default (programs) directory tree. I just read somewhere else that vista has a problem here (service installation and alike). Currently it looks like if it works much better with this new location.

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