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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,009,577)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,841,928)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,028)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,275,412)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,264,475)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,114,159)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,114,260)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,213,603)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,404,447)
Message 98650 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 20:34:38 UTC

There's something going on behind the scenes that I'm not ready to talk about. One of the consequences may affect you, however. It's possible that the TRP-Sieve may shut down much sooner than expected.

How soon? It's currently listed as a 10+ year life expectancy. The new life expectancy may be reduced to... 6 days.

I promised everyone a 30 day warning before shutting down a project, and that's what this is. Consider this the 30 day warning: TRP-Sieve will (or at least may) shut down on October 8th.

This is still tentative at this point, but I wanted to give you as much notice as possible.
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Found 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,035,398)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,047,548)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,033,639)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,465)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,103,749)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,107,810)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,034,947)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,074,091)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,040,979)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,045,113)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,097,219)321 Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,285,033)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,500,349)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (243,349,119)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,516,062)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,329,228)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,303,946)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,226,847)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,531,700)
Message 98663 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 22:15:58 UTC - in response to Message 98659.

Thanks for the unfortunate heads-up ... back to TRP Sieve and which was my case before the ESP LLR challenge.

Please let us know when you officially decide one way or another!

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Message 98665 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 22:30:26 UTC - in response to Message 98663.

Thanks for the unfortunate heads-up ... back to TRP Sieve and which was my case before the ESP LLR challenge.

Please let us know when you officially decide one way or another!


Of course.
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Message 98667 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 22:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 98659.

FYI, in case you didn't read it yet, there's a possibility we may suspend the TRP sieve much sooner than expected. I've given the official 30 day warning, just in case.

If you want to work on that badge instead, feel free to do so. The ESP cleanup will take care of itself, and a few extra days don't make much of a difference in the big picture. The TRP-Sieve badge, however, may have a limited number of days left, so if that's important to you, please do that instead.


Will whatever's happening render TRP-sieve work beyond some point of no value? I'd like the badge, but not if I'll be doing work that is meaningless except for the badge.
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Message 98669 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 22:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 98667.

Will whatever's happening render TRP-sieve work beyond some point of no value? I'd like the badge, but not if I'll be doing work that is meaningless except for the badge.


Essentially, yes. This is not a bad thing. If we suspend the sieve, it would be because further sieving would be of reduced value.

Personally I find myself going through the exact same thought process. I figure I can get the next TRP-Sieve badge (Ruby, in my case) in a bit over 28 days. So if I start right now, I could do it.

But doing so would be crunching only to get the badge. If the sieve does get suspended, it's because we won't need more sieving. So the actual work I'd be doing wouldn't be very valuable to PrimeGrid. I decided not to bother. (The current heat wave also had something to do with that decision.)
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Found 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,035,398)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,047,548)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,033,639)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,465)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,103,749)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,107,810)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,034,947)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,074,091)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,040,979)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,045,113)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,097,219)321 Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,285,033)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,500,349)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (243,349,119)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,516,062)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,329,228)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,303,946)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,226,847)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,531,700)
Message 98672 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 23:04:58 UTC - in response to Message 98669.

Can we get a guestimate as to the percentage for suspension? Ex 50% probable?

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Message 98673 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 23:22:42 UTC - in response to Message 98672.

Can we get a guestimate as to the percentage for suspension? Ex 50% probable?


It's very hard to say. There's too many unknowns at this point to hazard a guess as to how likely it is. It's enough of a possibility that I thought it worthwhile to let everyone know that suspending TRP-Sieve is a possibility. That's the best answer I've got right now.
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Message 98674 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 23:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 98669.

Will whatever's happening render TRP-sieve work beyond some point of no value? I'd like the badge, but not if I'll be doing work that is meaningless except for the badge.


Essentially, yes. This is not a bad thing. If we suspend the sieve, it would be because further sieving would be of reduced value.

Personally I find myself going through the exact same thought process. I figure I can get the next TRP-Sieve badge (Ruby, in my case) in a bit over 28 days. So if I start right now, I could do it.

But doing so would be crunching only to get the badge. If the sieve does get suspended, it's because we won't need more sieving. So the actual work I'd be doing wouldn't be very valuable to PrimeGrid. I decided not to bother. (The current heat wave also had something to do with that decision.)


"reduced value", but not "of no value"?
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Message 98675 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 23:43:49 UTC - in response to Message 98674.


"reduced value", but not "of no value"?


As with all sieving, it is of full value when it eliminates candidates faster than LLR (or one of the other appropriate prime search apps depending on sub-project). Reduced value means that it will be (at some point in the 30 day window) doing so slower than LLR.

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Message 98676 - Posted: 8 Sep 2016 | 23:52:10 UTC - in response to Message 98675.


"reduced value", but not "of no value"?


As with all sieving, it is of full value when it eliminates candidates faster than LLR (or one of the other appropriate prime search apps depending on sub-project). Reduced value means that it will be (at some point in the 30 day window) doing so slower than LLR.


OK -- normal situation for the end of a sieve, not something that renders it completely useless. With the life expectancy going suddenly from 10 years to 30 days, I wondered what might be happening.

For now, I'm going for the TRP-Sieve badge. Might change my mind tomorrow.
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Message 98698 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016 | 15:21:43 UTC

I've moved a bunch of posts from the paralympics challenge thread to this thread. It's better to have this discussion here, where people are more likely to come to find such information.
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Message 98699 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016 | 15:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 98673.

Can we get a guestimate as to the percentage for suspension? Ex 50% probable?


It's very hard to say. There's too many unknowns at this point to hazard a guess as to how likely it is. It's enough of a possibility that I thought it worthwhile to let everyone know that suspending TRP-Sieve is a possibility. That's the best answer I've got right now.


There's really two parts to this question. One part is internal: "Is PrimeGrid able and willing to do this?". The second part is external, essentially "Are <they> able and willing to do this?".

The first part, regarding whether we are able to do this, is now answered, and the answer is yes. We think we've figured out all the answers to all the problems. Hopefully we didn't overlook to many problems.

The second part is as yet undecided, and I understand that the chances there are about 50/50. So there's the best answer we have so far. 50/50 is a much better answer than "I don't know."
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Message 98700 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016 | 15:53:07 UTC - in response to Message 98699.

The second part is as yet undecided, and I understand that the chances there are about 50/50. So there's the best answer we have so far. 50/50 is a much better answer than "I don't know."

Fingers crossed it keeps going to the end of the year (minimum).

Thanks for the updated probabilities.

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Message 98701 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016 | 16:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 98700.

The second part is as yet undecided, and I understand that the chances there are about 50/50. So there's the best answer we have so far. 50/50 is a much better answer than "I don't know."

Fingers crossed it keeps going to the end of the year (minimum).

Thanks for the updated probabilities.


Honestly, I think you have it backwards. If the sieve ends early, that's a GOOD thing. It would mean we completed the sieve much earlier than expected. Sieving is merely the preparatory work you must first do before you can do your primality testing. If the sieve (any sieve) is finished, it means the resources that had been devoted to sieving can be used to actually test for primes.

Or look at it this way:

Finding primes: Fun!
Sieving: Boring!

If this goes through, we'll complete the boring step much faster than we expected.

Or put yet another way, which would you *personally* rather accomplish? Getting the next TRP-Sieve badge, or finding one of the TRP primes that eliminates another K in the Riesel Problem? For me, it would be much more satisfying to find one of those primes. There's 0% chance of finding a prime when the computer is running a sieving app.

I will be very disappointed if this doesn't happen. It's a fantastic opportunity for us.
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Message 98702 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016 | 16:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 98701.

I will be very disappointed if this doesn't happen. It's a fantastic opportunity for us.


Not sure which part of this you meant to the sieving question and which part you meant to the as yet "unknown" to the general public topic.

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Message 98705 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016 | 17:21:35 UTC - in response to Message 98702.

I will be very disappointed if this doesn't happen. It's a fantastic opportunity for us.


Not sure which part of this you meant to the sieving question and which part you meant to the as yet "unknown" to the general public topic.



There's only one "part" that will, or will not, happen. If it happens, we will be able to end the sieve much more quickly than expected. I'll be very disappointed if this falls through and, as a result, the sieving completes in the original 10+ years rather than in a few weeks.
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Message 98712 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 1:57:13 UTC

If TRP-Sieve ends, what will the default project be changed to?
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Message 98713 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 2:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 98699.

The second part is external, essentially "Are <they> able and willing to do this?".

Who are "they"?

When will we be told why the optimal sieving point (what I assume to be the reason for the shut down) was reached significantly sooner than anticipated?
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Message 98714 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 2:26:49 UTC

Could the mysterious mystery be that someone has proved that one of the k's we're looking through is, in fact, a smaller Riesel number?

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Message 98715 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 3:13:42 UTC - in response to Message 98713.

The second part is external, essentially "Are <they> able and willing to do this?".

Who are "they"?

When will we be told why the optimal sieving point (what I assume to be the reason for the shut down) was reached significantly sooner than anticipated?


Please be patient. Nothing is definite yet. I wanted to give everyone as much advance warning as possible so you would have the maximum amount of time to work on the badge -- I literally posted about this within an hour of determining that we might want to suspend the sieve.

But we're not ready to talk about this yet. There's a lot of details to be worked out, including whether or not this will actually happen.
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Message 98716 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 3:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 98714.

Could the mysterious mystery be that someone has proved that one of the k's we're looking through is, in fact, a smaller Riesel number?


That is an interesting theory. However, if the "new" smallest Riesel number was any of the K's other than the smallest remaining K (2293), we would still need to keep sieving for the remaining Ks that are smaller than this new Riesel number. The sieve would speed up, but not so dramatically that we'd be able to do 40P worth of sieving in 6 days.

If the new smallest Riesel number was in fact 2293, since all Ks below 2293 already have known primes, the Riesel problem would be proven, and we'd be talking about shutting down (not suspending) both TRP-Sieve and TRP-LLR.

So, no, there's no new Riesel number.
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Message 98717 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 5:12:35 UTC - in response to Message 98715.



But we're not ready to talk about this yet.


I can understand this. The breakup of a relationship can cause many raw emotions. Some people let them out right away, and some prefer to hold them in for a little while until they're ready to properly address the situation. They need time. All I can say is that we understand this, Michael, and we'll give you as much time as you need. But when you're ready, we will be here. And you can let it all out.

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Message 98738 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 14:55:25 UTC - in response to Message 98712.

If TRP-Sieve ends, what will the default project be changed to?


We're not sure yet. The most likely candidates would be either PPS-Sieve (which is already the default GPU project) or possibly a new GCW-Sieve project (which would move to BOINC from manual sieving.) Note that this GCW sieve is different than the old CW-Sieve, which is currently suspended. The old BOINC CW Sieve had a GPU app for sieving the BOINC Cullen and Woodall LLR projects. This new GCW sieve is u a CPU-only sieve which is associated with the GCW LLR port on PRPNet.

Depending on the timing, it's also possible that PPS-Sieve would be the new default project initially until the GCW sieve comes on line, at which point we'd switch the default to the GCW Sieve. Or it could be something else entirely. It's way too early to be making those plans since there's so many unknowns right now. What's certain is that PPS-Sieve is a viable option, so I'm not concerned that we'll have no good choices for the default app. All things being equal, I'd prefer that the default app not be one that uses AVX instructions. I like having those high-power, high-heat apps be an opt-in choice for users. There may come a day when every app uses AVX, but we're not there yet.
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Message 98743 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 22:19:05 UTC

A small update:

I still don't know whether this is going to happen or not, so we're still in that 50/50 place of uncertainty.

Jim did some number crunching and determined that the optimal sieve point for TRP is around 206P. None of us had ever really thought about TRP's optimal sieving point before because it was always way off in the future. 206P is higher than I was expecting. This alone quadruples the amount of work remaining to be done in the sieve. There's also a second change (which I'm not prepared to speak about yet) that also quadruples the time required to complete the sieve. As a result of both quadruplings, it now appears that if this mysterious thing does in fact happen, we will have about 3 months worth of work remaining in the sieve rather than 6 days.

Also, if this happens, we will be increasing the size of the tasks. Each task currently sieves 2G. Some of you may remember that the tasks used to be 5 times larger (10G). We made the tasks smaller to accommodate running on Android devices. (Sadly, we had to pull the Android app due to serious bugs.) The new task size will probably be 40G, which is 20 times larger than the current tasks and 4 times larger than the original size. Credit will also be increased by a factor of 40.

We have also been testing using zipped sieve files. We're due to get a new sieve file soon, and hopefully we'll be able to offer a compressed version. This will cut down on your bandwidth and download times. If you've got a full time wired broadband connection, that might not make much of a difference, but for a lot of people this should be welcome news. Compression reduces the size of the sieve from about 21 MB to about 6 MB.

None of this is final, and it may not happen at all. But this is the best, most up to date information available, and I'm sure some of you will be happy that there's a bit more time available.

One final note: if this mysterious thing does not happen, based on an optimal sieve point of 206P and completely ignoring Moore's Law, at the current rate we have about 18 years to go in the sieve. So, there you have it. There's a 50/50 chance the sieve will end in about 3 months, otherwise it will end in 18 years.
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Message 98746 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016 | 23:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 98743.

Thanks, Michael.

I think many of us would love to crunch for three more months rather than the abrupt 6/30 days.

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Message 98752 - Posted: 11 Sep 2016 | 4:21:56 UTC

Thanks for the update Michael.

Do appreciate being kept informed by the project admins and I note with interest the possibility of a new GCW-Sieve project for BOINC.
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Message 98766 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016 | 2:57:20 UTC

This is an update about updates. :)

I don't expect to learn anything more until at least Thursday (September 15th).
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Message 98789 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016 | 15:47:24 UTC - in response to Message 98743.
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Also, if this happens, we will be increasing the size of the tasks. Each task currently sieves 2G. Some of you may remember that the tasks used to be 5 times larger (10G). We made the tasks smaller to accommodate running on Android devices. (Sadly, we had to pull the Android app due to serious bugs.) The new task size will probably be 40G, which is 20 times larger than the current tasks and 4 times larger than the original size. Credit will also be increased by a factor of 40.

Is there any flexibility in the factor of 40 if and when it is implemented? We occasionally lose some units due to silly things such as very brief power outages and it would be a shame to have something happen as some units are nearing completion where a 2-second power outage suddenly occurs and for these units to "die" after many hours of processing.

For me personally, these brief outages are basically a summer phenomenon and where the grid is stressed due to air conditioners running etc.

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Message 98791 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016 | 16:25:32 UTC - in response to Message 98789.

Is there any flexibility in the factor of 40 if and when it is implemented? We occasionally lose some units due to silly things such as very brief power outages and it would be a shame to have something happen as some units are nearing completion where a 2-second power outage suddenly occurs and for these units to "die" after many hours of processing.

For me personally, these brief outages are basically a summer phenomenon and where the grid is stressed due to air conditioners running etc.


Some flexibility? Perhaps. But nothing is definite yet.

If you're having difficulty with power outages, I recommend (strongly) investing in a UPS for each computer system, and be sure to get a UPS with a pure sine-wave output (most are stepped sine wave). For most devices it doesn't matter, but the newer computer power supplies use circuitry that does not work well with stepped sine waves.

I live in the 'burbs with overhead powerlines -- and squirrels, tree limbs, and all sorts of other things that love to cause momentary power glitches. Sometimes it feels like everything in my house is on a UPS. All the computers. All the network gear. The DVR. Even the game consoles. And as a side benefit, if there's an extended blackout, I can turn off the equipment and use the UPSs to keep the cell phones charged.

I don't care that much about losing a few BOINC tasks, but I do important things on the computers too. It's nice to be able to do an orderly shut down when the power goes out.
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Message 98800 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016 | 19:43:00 UTC

This is sure mysterious! A few ideas I had that probably aren't The Change:

- There might be a new and better sieve. But then the sieve would be running longer, one would think.

- Contrary to that, the current sieve client might be unreliable over some number. But then Mike would be disappointed if The Change did happen.

- The most likely option seems like an improvement to LLR. But if that's the case, why wouldn't this be discussed for other projects, like PPS-Sieve?

- Maybe some supercomputer wants to reserve a huge chunk of TRP-LLR work?
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Message 98804 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016 | 21:04:50 UTC - in response to Message 98800.


- Maybe some supercomputer wants to reserve a huge chunk of TRP-LLR work?


It's not me, honest ;)

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (656,177)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (457,297)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (437,502)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,256,334)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,246,109)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,193,129)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,658)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (292,129)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (32,498)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,515,229)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,491,867)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,245,870)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,309)
Message 98860 - Posted: 14 Sep 2016 | 9:35:57 UTC - in response to Message 98800.

This is sure mysterious! A few ideas I had that probably aren't The Change:

- There might be a new and better sieve. But then the sieve would be running longer, one would think


Could be a GPU sieve. But yes, faster sieve = deeper sieve, so the mystery still remains.

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Message 98894 - Posted: 15 Sep 2016 | 10:50:10 UTC - in response to Message 98890.

I don't mean to stray off topic but today or tomorrow we should hear about TRP Sieve.

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Message 98895 - Posted: 15 Sep 2016 | 10:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 98894.

I don't mean to stray off topic but today or tomorrow we should hear about TRP Sieve.


Not at least until late today.
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Message 98898 - Posted: 15 Sep 2016 | 15:07:23 UTC - in response to Message 98894.

I don't mean to stray off topic but today or tomorrow we should hear about TRP Sieve.


Bringing the conversation bach to the posted topic, are you? :)

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Message 98899 - Posted: 15 Sep 2016 | 16:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 98898.
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I don't mean to stray off topic but today or tomorrow we should hear about TRP Sieve.


Bringing the conversation bach to the posted topic, are you? :)

I am sitting on pins ... seriously.

Being a latecomer here on PG, I am chasing my tail. I fell short of the Sapphire badge with ESP Sieve by a month and I am now trying to avoid the same fate with TRP Sieve. If we are crunching into mid-December as all indications from Michael suggest, I should be okay. Not that I would mind extra crunching so as to permanently park on Emerald.

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I've been told there has been a delay in the decision due to unrelated outside (personal) events, i.e., the delay isn't indicative of the decision going one way or another. I'll let you know as soon as I can.
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Message 98912 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016 | 5:17:10 UTC
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In preparation for this mysterious event, even though we still don't know if it's going to happen, we've made a few changes:

* There's a new sieve file. The old one was a year old, and we've been updating the sieve file about once a year, so it was time.

* The sieve file is gzipped. Gzip is supported by BOINC clients 7.x.x and up. The gzipped sieve file is about a quarter the size of the unzipped file. If you have a 6.x.x or older BOINC client, it will download the uncompressed sieve file.

* The sieve file can now be downloaded from two different download servers. The primary server is a new server, which will reduce load on the BOINC server. If the BOINC client can not download from the primary server, it will download from the secondary download server (the BOINC server.)

None of this should be noticeable to you, since the BOINC client handles this automatically. In fact, these changes are already in effect and by the time you are reading this, chances are your computers have already downloaded the new sieve file.
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Message 98983 - Posted: 20 Sep 2016 | 18:40:47 UTC

Any updates?

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Message 98987 - Posted: 20 Sep 2016 | 19:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 98983.

Any updates?


Not yet.
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Message 98996 - Posted: 21 Sep 2016 | 13:03:36 UTC
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Update:


"Patience is a virtue"

It's a good thing we're such virtuous people!

I'm not expecting a decision for at least a month. It might be longer. It may not happen at all.

My best guess -- and "guess" is the important word -- is that the best case scenario would be that this starts in a month and the sieve is finished three months later. That would be sometime in January. It's at least as likely that this won't happen at all.
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Message 99007 - Posted: 21 Sep 2016 | 15:16:20 UTC - in response to Message 98996.

Thanks, Michael.

I, for one, am very comfortable with this scenario!

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Message 99008 - Posted: 21 Sep 2016 | 15:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 99007.

Michael,

Is the new GCW Sieve dependent on TRP Sieve or is it something which will happen either way?

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Message 99009 - Posted: 21 Sep 2016 | 15:37:03 UTC - in response to Message 99008.

Michael,

Is the new GCW Sieve dependent on TRP Sieve or is it something which will happen either way?


They have nothing to do with each other.

Assuming everything goes more or less as planned, we're going to make some enhancements to the operability of the GCW sieve software (such as adding trickling), and we'll have to build the infrastructure on the server to process the results from the sieve tasks. We'll also need to make changes to the web pages to support the new app. None of that depends on TRP-Sieve. Moving GCW (Sieve and LLR) to BOINC has been on our to-do list for a long time. The TRP-Sieve thing happened less than two weeks ago.
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Message 99010 - Posted: 21 Sep 2016 | 15:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 99009.
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None of that depends on TRP-Sieve. Moving GCW (Sieve and LLR) to BOINC has been on our to-do list for a long time. The TRP-Sieve thing happened less than two weeks ago.

Excellent and great to see another project coming live to BOINC.

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Message 99023 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 8:11:57 UTC - in response to Message 98996.

I'm not expecting a decision for at least a month. It might be longer. It may not happen at all.

Will we ever get to know what this mysterious mystery is?

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Message 99024 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 8:16:42 UTC - in response to Message 99023.

I'm not expecting a decision for at least a month. It might be longer. It may not happen at all.

Will we ever get to know what this mysterious mystery is?

Inb4 it was all a masterplan to force people to quickly crunch TRP SV because of the risk of losing a badge.

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Message 99028 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 11:02:37 UTC - in response to Message 99023.

I'm not expecting a decision for at least a month. It might be longer. It may not happen at all.

Will we ever get to know what this mysterious mystery is?


That's not up to us to decide.
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I'm not expecting a decision for at least a month. It might be longer. It may not happen at all.

Will we ever get to know what this mysterious mystery is?


That's not up to us to decide.


I am sorry but I cannot imagine what is so secret, or what is that type of secret in world of numbers. And also I can imagine any reason why you dont say at this forum: hey guys we have this ,and this idea, it look like that but ....

I dont expect answer other then "sorry Crun-chi but this is classified"

Classified in world of numbers :)
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Classified in world of numbers :)


If "secret" means "can't tell the whole world", then yes, there's lots and lots of things that are secret.

What present you have bought for your wife's anniversary is a secret until you you give it to her.

Your kids' birthday presents are a secret until they open up the box on their birthday.

Anything that's intended to be a surprise is, by necessity, a secret, or else it wouldn't be much of a surprise.

When you're looking for a new job, often that's a secret you don't share with your current boss.

There's lots of things that are "secret" for one reason or another.

This is one of them. And it will continue to be secret, right up until it's time to talk about it publicly. So far, all we're prepared to say is that there's a possibility that TRP-Sieve might end shortly, so if badges are important to you, you might want to work on TRP-Sieve. I wanted to give people as much time as possible to work on their TRP-Sieve badge, otherwise we wouldn't have said anything at all until we were a lot more certain about what was going to happen.

Beyond that, everything is too undecided to discuss at this time.
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Message 99038 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 14:04:00 UTC - in response to Message 99037.

I fully agree with all reasons you write, but, all reasons are linked to personal life. Mathematics is not that kind of secret, mathematics doesnot belong to you, or to me, It is universal: so you cannot compare two totally different reasons.

On the other side: until I am member of Primegrid, then I live in your house and must obey to your rules :)

So time will show ( or will not show) as always!
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I fully agree with all reasons you write, but, all reasons are linked to personal life. Mathematics is not that kind of secret, mathematics doesnot belong to you, or to me, It is universal: so you cannot compare two totally different reasons.


Mathematics certainly does have secrets. They're all over the place...

When GIMPS finds a new world record prime, they keep it secret until they're ready to announce it, which is sometimes a week or more after the discovery.

The cryptological keys that secure communications -- which are purely mathematical in nature -- are everywhere. Your browser uses them. Your phone uses them. Two-factor devices use them. Depending on where you get your music, your tunes use them. Your TV system likely uses them. They're all secret by their very nature. They'd be utterly pointless otherwise.

Secrets are merely anything that isn't widely known. There's lots of reasons to keep things secret, and I've already told you, many times, why we're not talking about this yet. There's too much still to be decided to be talking about what's going to happen.

Anything we would tell you now would likely turn out to be wrong -- just look at how often the timeline has changed.

For those who are bursting with anticipation, here are some reasons:

  • We have a new sieving algorithm that is many, many times faster, so the sieve will be done quicker.

  • TRP-LLR will become more efficient, thus lowering the TRP-Sieve optimal sieving point.

  • We'll be announcing PLA-based compute engine that will be able to complete the TRP sieve much quicker than the current CPU app.

  • We'll be announcing a GPU based TRP-Sieve application.

  • We're going to be releasing both Android and Raspberry-Pi versions of the sieve, and due to the sheer number of devices we'll complete the sieve much more quickly.

  • We're turning the sieve over to an outside organization and we're no longer going to run TRP-Sieve.

  • The European Union will begin taxing sieves. They were intending to tax cooking utensils, but they wrote the law overly broadly.



Six or seven of the above reasons are lies. :)
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,982,331)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,231,526)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,103,479)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,182,588)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,346,543)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,252,934)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,187,450)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,764,477)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,558,034)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,155,477)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,108,237)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,978,068)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,037,204)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,305,147)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,053)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,030,160)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,253,048)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,243,269)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (170,758,062)
Message 99044 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 15:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 99042.

    * TRP-LLR will become more efficient, thus lowering the TRP-Sieve optimal sieving point.



Six or seven of the above reasons are lies. :)


At least we know this one's actually true (#AVX512) :)

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 12 primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,076,824)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,287,148)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,174,327)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,028,260)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,620,190)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,151,448)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,268)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,871,275)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,725,535)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,568,836)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,036,418)321 Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,006,246)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (127,922,665)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,984,158)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,495,464,789)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,134,964)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,013,696)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (273,666,627)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (238,828,781)PSA Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,370,700,486)
Message 99045 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 15:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 99042.
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* The European Union will begin taxing sieves. They were intending to tax cooking utensils, but they wrote the law overly broadly.


As my good friend TheDawgz said this one is quite surprising. Based on absolutely no knowledge of the EU I was just wondering if they even knew or understood what sieving was. Guess the economy justifies that taxation of anything - hence a revolt of many years ago (of course we also have a taxation for any number of nonsense items - a luxury tax for one)

I will say nothing beats a good riced potato

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Message 99048 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 16:47:54 UTC

What a rollercoaster ride that post was Michael :D! Think I'll just quietly plod on to jade.

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Message 99049 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 17:09:55 UTC

If the sieve is completed in the EU, but delivered to the US, does the EU still levy the tax?

What about if it is completed by TRP-Sieve Holdings, LLP, in Ireland?

:)

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Message 99050 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 17:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 99042.

Well I'd have to go for #6 as #7 is rather far out and the other five all have sieving going on via a rather quicker method so if you were concerned about the crunchers interested in the badges, the first 5 would still allow them to work on for their badges..... :-) Enjoying the banter on this thread for sure!! :-)

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Message 99051 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 18:06:54 UTC - in response to Message 99050.

Just my two cents: nail whatever badge you have in mind and let the axe fall if and whenever it happens.

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Message 99056 - Posted: 22 Sep 2016 | 19:34:11 UTC - in response to Message 99051.

Lol, agree. I just crunch and don't worry about the badges really. :-)

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Message 99095 - Posted: 24 Sep 2016 | 10:37:24 UTC - in response to Message 99042.
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Well, that's a relief - the conjecture hasn't been proven wrong. No sense in wasting CPU power on a sieve if the conjecture is already resolved. If it was resolved then the LLR app would be yanked as well as the seive.

GPU app - that can't be it. No software is released here until it's been thoroughly tested, and if that was the case, the available work would have been gobbled up already by greedy testers (LOL).

Outside organization - got a cease and desist letter, eh? (Sive, Paget & Riesel) Patented algorithm? Copyright violation? Men in black showed up at your door? Somebody developed a PLA sieve for a university project?

Maybe Michael is just injecting a good mystery here to publicize PrimeGrid. Nothing sells like a good mystery. Men in black could soon be showing up at my door.

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Message 99097 - Posted: 24 Sep 2016 | 11:21:38 UTC - in response to Message 99095.

When those men in black show up, follow the white rabbit.

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Message 99099 - Posted: 24 Sep 2016 | 11:48:07 UTC - in response to Message 99097.
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When those men in black show up, follow the white rabbit.

I saw that rabbit, but I didn't follow. He was rumoured to have an academic paper censored by a certain 3LO while I was one of his students, and last I heard he has an appointment within another 3LO closer to home. He was on T5K before distributed computing. He disdains commodify T5K primes found by brute force DC. I know this because I asked him what he thought about it, a few years ago. What else would you expect from a mathemagician*?

Edit: mathematician; I can't say "mathemagician" because that's reserved for mathematicians that also perform magic. There's nothing magical about proving theorems.

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Getting tired of checking this off-topic thread
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Message 99233 - Posted: 28 Sep 2016 | 15:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 99232.

Getting tired of checking this off-topic thread


Fair enough. I'll make a new thread and move all of the blabber there. I won't get a chance to do it until later today. (I have to move each post, one by one, so it takes a while.)

Note to everyone else: Please don't "help" by starting a new thread for me. It will actually make things much harder and more confusing.
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Message 99235 - Posted: 28 Sep 2016 | 16:34:44 UTC

All of the off-topic posts have been moved to this thread: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7036

Feel free to carry on the discussion about old tech, other projects, and any other off-topic stuff in that thread. Thank you!
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Message 99236 - Posted: 28 Sep 2016 | 17:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 99235.

Michael,

Do we still have Jan/2017 as the earliest but FIRM possible suspension date for TRP Sieve? With a five-day challenge next month, this latest delay by one month regarding the possible suspension would allow greater flexibility to participate in challenges for those looking to reach a particular badge for TRP Sieve at the same time.

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Message 99237 - Posted: 28 Sep 2016 | 18:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 99236.
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Michael,

Do we still have Jan/2017 as the earliest but FIRM possible suspension date for TRP Sieve? With a five-day challenge next month, this latest delay by one month regarding the possible suspension would allow greater flexibility to participate in challenges for those looking to reach a particular badge for TRP Sieve at the same time.


I have no new information, nor do I expect any updates for a few weeks. The most recent information I have is that January looks like the most optimistic (i.e., soonest) time for completing the sieve. However, I can not guarantee anything because events outside of our control will affect the schedule. I have already given the official 30 day warning, as promised (which is October 8th), so if we magically completed the sieve on October 9th, the sieve would end that day. The only firm date is October 8th, and I fully expect the sieve to not be completed for several months, if not years or even decades, after that.

All the information I have leads me to believe we will be running this sieve until at least January. It's not a guarantee, but it's the most accurate information available at this time. If that changes, I will let everyone know.
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Message 99242 - Posted: 28 Sep 2016 | 22:21:57 UTC

I realize some of you are frustrated at the lack of certainty. To a certain extent, so am I. So I'll try to explain this differently. Here's what I personally think are the probabilities of TRP-Sieve ending at specific times:

Ending on October 8th: 0% (The end of the "30 days".)
Ending around October 31st: 0.5% (Technically possible, but I've been told this won't happen.)
Ending around January 2017: 40% (Best case scenario.)
Ending sometime around 2030: 59.5% (I.e., forget this ever happened.)

The only guarantee is that it won't end before October 8th, but it's very unlikely it will end before 2017, and there's a better than even chance this whole thing will end up not happening and we're looking at 10+ years before the sieve finishes.
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Message 99304 - Posted: 30 Sep 2016 | 16:24:32 UTC

Sometime soon, most likely on Monday after the SGS challenge completes, we'll be increasing the size of the TRP-Sieve tasks fivefold from 2G to 10G. This is NOT the big increase from 2G to 40G that was being discussed previously.

I started a new thread in the TRP forum about this increase: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7040

Discussion about the change itself should be in the main thread. Questions about how (if at all) this relates to the mysterious end-of-the-sieve event can be discussed here.

And to answer that question, it sort of kinda maybe is related. I don't think we'll need to go to 40G tasks anymore, but we still want to go back to the original 10G size, so we might as well do it now and get it done before "it" happens.
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Message 99386 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016 | 16:32:09 UTC - in response to Message 99304.

If this mysterious event happens, does those computers only volunteer for the sieving of TRP or is it likely that they also end up supporting the LLR part of TRP?

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Message 99389 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016 | 16:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 99386.

If this mysterious event happens, does those computers only volunteer for the sieving of TRP or is it likely that they also end up supporting the LLR part of TRP?


Only the sieve will be affected.
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Message 99471 - Posted: 4 Oct 2016 | 12:50:57 UTC - in response to Message 99389.

If this mysterious event happens, does those computers only volunteer for the sieving of TRP or is it likely that they also end up supporting the LLR part of TRP?


Only the sieve will be affected.


Well, it is better than nothing afterall :) ... thanks for the feedback... take care :)

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Message 99570 - Posted: 5 Oct 2016 | 18:58:06 UTC

I apologize for not reading all the posts, but it appears to me that TRP Sieve will get shut down in the near future, maybe, not for sure. If it gets shut down what will happen to the hundreds of tasks I have in my computers, some, the longer ones will take about 90 or more minutes and the deadline currently is October 9th. Should I delete some or perhaps stop down loading more?
Any answers would be appreciated.

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Message 99571 - Posted: 5 Oct 2016 | 19:15:15 UTC - in response to Message 99570.

I apologize for not reading all the posts, but it appears to me that TRP Sieve will get shut down in the near future, maybe, not for sure. If it gets shut down what will happen to the hundreds of tasks I have in my computers, some, the longer ones will take about 90 or more minutes and the deadline currently is October 9th.


Shutting the sieve down means new work won't be sent out. Old work can still be completed, but needs to be returned by the deadline (4 days) , or, if certain criteria are met, by the extended deadline (30 days)

Should I delete some or perhaps stop down loading more?


Regardless of whether the project shuts down or not, if you have so many tasks that you can't complete them by the deadline, then you definitely have too many tasks and should reduce the size of your queue. (You may not realize it, but once tasks reach the deadline, if BOINC hasn't started running the task yet it automatically aborts them.)

There's usually no good reason to keep that many tasks on your computer, unless you have intermittent or unreliable access to the Internet. For most people, there's no reason to keep ANY extra tasks on their computers. It's bad for us and it's bad for you. I personally run with the BOINC cache set to 0/0.
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Message 99672 - Posted: 8 Oct 2016 | 18:22:09 UTC

This computer is about 10 yrs old and at the moment its only graphics is on the motherboard, which would not be useful for gaming but is fine for what I need it for.

It has two PCI-e slots, 16x and 1x respectively.

I am wondering about adding one or even two graphics cards purely for BOINC purposes and I'd appreciate your advice. One second hand card would cost me about UK£40 and would make this machine hugely more effective on PrimeGrid.

1. would it be possible /would it make sense to add two graphics cards? Would PrimeGrid be able to use both?

2. Would it matter if one was only connected via 1x slot?

3. Would crossfire or SLI be needed, or would the software pick up both cards as "separate monitors" and be able to use them both even if not connected together?

4. I am looking at some cheap second hand cards, and know the ones I am looking at are OpenGL 4.0. Does that imply that they will also be OpenCL or CUDA, or do I have to do some more research to find out if they will work with BOINC & PrimeGrid?

5. I know about needing appropriate power supplies, is there anything else you'd suggest I need to think about?

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Message 99673 - Posted: 8 Oct 2016 | 18:37:53 UTC - in response to Message 99672.

1. would it be possible /would it make sense to add two graphics cards? Would PrimeGrid be able to use both?

It's possible to add 2 cards (even in mismatch such as AMD + Nvidia) and Primegrid would definitely be able to use both.

With that said, though, going with 2 separate GPUs is usually not as efficient as a single more powerful one. Considering rather low end cards, which I assume accurately describes your £40 card, it's usually better to get a stronger, more modern GPU due to better efficiency.
2. Would it matter if one was only connected via 1x slot?

Pretty sure it does... I mean, it depends on your subproject of choice. And the particular GPU you are using. But for genefer, 1x is going to be a problem.
3. Would crossfire or SLI be needed, or would the software pick up both cards as "separate monitors" and be able to use them both even if not connected together?

No need for CF / SLI support. Just plug them in and they'll (most likely) work.

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Message 99674 - Posted: 8 Oct 2016 | 19:17:48 UTC

Be aware that some older cards may need older versions of drivers, and you might have newer cards that need newer drivers. It might not be possible to run both at the same time if they're too different. Also, depending on the project you want to run, double check the requirements to make sure the old card will actually run it at all. If buying two lower cost cards is better than one more expensive one or not, is something else to consider.

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1. would it be possible /would it make sense to add two graphics cards? Would PrimeGrid be able to use both?

If you use two different graphic cards, you will need to use a cc_config.xml file to let boinc use both of them.
<cc_config> <options> <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> </options> </cc_config>



4. I am looking at some cheap second hand cards, and know the ones I am looking at are OpenGL 4.0. Does that imply that they will also be OpenCL or CUDA, or do I have to do some more research to find out if they will work with BOINC & PrimeGrid?

In order to do gpu computing, you need cuda or opencl. Opengl is useless. HD 7950 or HD 7970 are a very good compromise between performance and price. More recent AMD cards should be avoided as they have a lower double precision float (for GFN 21 and 22)


5. I know about needing appropriate power supplies, is there anything else you'd suggest I need to think about?

Be careful that using 2 GPUs mean a huge power needed, especially if you use middle or high-level graphic cards. Don't be confident to the theoretical power of your PSU : some of them are a lie. Moreover, if it is a 10-year old PSU, change it.

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Message 99677 - Posted: 8 Oct 2016 | 19:25:20 UTC - in response to Message 99672.

1) I'm not so sure about that 1x slot. In any event any reasonably modern gpu worth crunching probably won't work well in that 1x slot (I would advise against it).

2) I have seen reports of GFN performance suffering in a 4x slot.

3) No. You don't want to have SLI or Crossfire enabled with PrimeGrid apps (and I believe they require a minimum of a 4x slot).

4) You probably want to ask about specific cards you are considering. Folks will be better able to share their experiences and opinions. OpenGL is for graphics and gaming, and has nothing to do with computing. OpenCL, as well as Compute Capability for Nvidia GPUs, is what determines the computing abilities of GPUs. For example, an nVidia card with less than CC 2.0 won't be able to work on a number of GFN sub-projects.

5) There are several other things I would consider. How much space you have is one. Some cards are longer than others. Case ventilation is another consideration if you get a GPU that has an open fan shroud (it vents warm air back into the case rather than out the back).

To add to Rafael's comment about mixing and matching, some telemetry software, such as MSI Afterburner, doesn't always work well with mixed cards.

While it is certainly possible to take an old system and put a GPU in it and have it crunching (I have several of these), the choice of GPU matters.

One thing to keep in mind is that while there are many older GPUs which are theoretically capable of crunching, it may not be worth it to have them do so. Older cards are generally going to both be slower and consume more electricity. If you are looking to acquire a card for crunching, I would hesitate to look at anything older or slower than a 750ti on the nVidia side, or a 7970 on the AMD side. If you have concerns about power consumption, bear in mind that AMD cards tend to consume a lot of power for their computing.

If you are patient, waiting to get a Polaris-generation nVidia card should certainly be a consideration.

This computer is about 10 yrs old and at the moment its only graphics is on the motherboard, which would not be useful for gaming but is fine for what I need it for.

It has two PCI-e slots, 16x and 1x respectively.

I am wondering about adding one or even two graphics cards purely for BOINC purposes and I'd appreciate your advice. One second hand card would cost me about UK£40 and would make this machine hugely more effective on PrimeGrid.

1. would it be possible /would it make sense to add two graphics cards? Would PrimeGrid be able to use both?

2. Would it matter if one was only connected via 1x slot?

3. Would crossfire or SLI be needed, or would the software pick up both cards as "separate monitors" and be able to use them both even if not connected together?

4. I am looking at some cheap second hand cards, and know the ones I am looking at are OpenGL 4.0. Does that imply that they will also be OpenCL or CUDA, or do I have to do some more research to find out if they will work with BOINC & PrimeGrid?

5. I know about needing appropriate power supplies, is there anything else you'd suggest I need to think about?

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Message 99753 - Posted: 10 Oct 2016 | 16:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 99677.

Thanks to you all for your replies, and apols for misposting in an existing thread.

From what you all say, it seems I would be better to spend all my budget on one 16x card rather than splitting my cash across two cards.

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Message 99880 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016 | 17:58:12 UTC - in response to Message 99042.


For those who are bursting with anticipation, here are some reasons:

  • We have a new sieving algorithm that is many, many times faster, so the sieve will be done quicker.
    ...
  • We'll be announcing PLA-based compute engine that will be able to complete the TRP sieve much quicker than the current CPU app.

  • We'll be announcing a GPU based TRP-Sieve application.

  • We're going to be releasing both Android and Raspberry-Pi versions of the sieve, and due to the sheer number of devices we'll complete the sieve much more quickly.



Six or seven of the above reasons are lies. :)


I do have an outline for a GPU-based TRP-Sieve application, which I've sent to some people. I don't think anyone has tried building the thing, however. And in any case, I'd think these four options would make the sieve more useful, not less.
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Message 101334 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016 | 22:09:14 UTC - in response to Message 101330.

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Not at this time. I have no additional information.
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This cat just won't stay bagged, will it...

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Message 102255 - Posted: 16 Dec 2016 | 7:53:59 UTC - in response to Message 101334.

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I inquired. The news isn't particularly good. It doesn't look very likely that this will happen. For now at least, I'm considering this to be put to bed, and nothing special is going to happen. TRP-Sieve will take quite a few years to reach optimal depth, and isn't going anywhere soon.

If in the future anything changes, I'll let you know. But for now just pretend this never happened. I'm going to un-sticky this thread, and do a Jedi-mind trick to make everyone forget this ever happened.

(And, no, sorry -- I'm not going to be able to talk about what didn't happen. It involves an outside entity and I don't have permission to talk about it.)

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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,002,936)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,909)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,303,526)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,202,873)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,900,040)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,728)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,851,996)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,199,189)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,099,260)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,328)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,124,820)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,677,818)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (300,002,145)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (138,569,782)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (130,000,018)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,000,001)
Message 102256 - Posted: 16 Dec 2016 | 9:45:48 UTC

Well well well.

Thanks Michael for the update (what do I prioritise now lol?).

...What Jedi mind trick? I don't remember having one.

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Eliminated 1 conjecture "k"Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (229,492)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (110,733)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,561,410)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,385)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,117)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (139,802)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,322,094)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,712)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,944)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,900)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,599)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (515,556)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,363,809)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (255,612)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,579,917)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,317,420)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,522,050)
Message 102258 - Posted: 16 Dec 2016 | 9:47:24 UTC - in response to Message 102256.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlEEEXMf8gA

Look from 1:21 :)


I'm not going to be able to talk about what didn't happen


I love this time paradox :)
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Found 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,035,398)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,047,548)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,033,639)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,465)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,103,749)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,107,810)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,034,947)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,074,091)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,040,979)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,045,113)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,097,219)321 Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,285,033)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,500,349)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (243,349,119)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,516,062)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,329,228)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,303,946)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,226,847)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,531,700)
Message 102261 - Posted: 16 Dec 2016 | 12:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 102255.

But for now just pretend this never happened. I'm going to un-sticky this thread, and do a Jedi-mind trick to make everyone forget this ever happened.

This weekend I flip to Sapphire and, as a result, the indirect (direct?) pressure to crunch TRP Sieve was not that bad at all.

Starting Monday some of my cores will be moving to GCW Sieve.

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Message 105319 - Posted: 24 Feb 2017 | 21:38:55 UTC

More information coming soon.
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Message 105342 - Posted: 25 Feb 2017 | 13:02:22 UTC

Um, er, ::coughs nervously::

Guess what? This is finally happening.

By the end of next week I expect a very large amount of computing power to be applied to working on the TRP sieve. If our expectations are correct, we will be able to complete the entire sieve in about a month.

Consider this to be a continuation of the original 30 day warning (which has turned into more of a 6 month warning.) I expect to have a better estimate once this starts going.

The provider of this computing power does not want to their identity revealed before the end of the project (think "big press release"), so if you figure it out, please don't spoil their thunder and talk about it publicly. Thanks in advance for your cooperation!

We're currently discussing increasing the size of the tasks to 4 times their current size (thereby reducing load on the server by the same factor of 4.) Those of you who are running TRP-sieve should be prepared for this. Considering how short the tasks are right now, I don't expect to increase the task deadline.
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Message 105344 - Posted: 25 Feb 2017 | 13:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 105342.

Michael,

We are now at the 59P-60P range. Can you tell us what the optimal sieve range is so that we can monitor things on our own and irrespective of how quickly things progress with the participation of the external force?

A benefit of us knowing the optimal sieve depth is that you will be able to bypass the guestimate of how much time we will have left since simple user monitoring will be more than sufficient.

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Message 105345 - Posted: 25 Feb 2017 | 13:45:41 UTC - in response to Message 105344.

Michael,

We are now at the 59P-60P range. Can you tell us what the optimal sieve range is so that we can monitor things on our own and irrespective of how quickly things progress with the participation of the external force?

A benefit of us knowing the optimal sieve depth is that you will be able to bypass the guestimate of how much time we will have left since simple user monitoring will be more than sufficient.


Going by my prior post in this thread, 206P. That number is subject to change.
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Message 105346 - Posted: 25 Feb 2017 | 14:03:43 UTC - in response to Message 105345.

Perfect and thanks!

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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,010,094)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,125,935)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,193,202)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (767,102)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,755,782)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,060,731)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,860,053)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,709,799)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,151,852)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (19,376)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,834,402)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,156,424)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,915,071)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,584,236)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,461,309)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (79,291,322)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (352,129)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (776,202)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,851,049)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,234,565)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,154,617)
Message 105350 - Posted: 25 Feb 2017 | 18:02:59 UTC - in response to Message 105342.

The provider of this computing power does not want to their identity revealed before the end of the project (think "big press release"), so if you figure it out, please don't spoil their thunder and talk about it publicly. Thanks in advance for your cooperation!


Huh. Not an application optimization, but a "provider of...computing power". Will this provider be providing computing power to anything else after this is done?

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Message 105352 - Posted: 25 Feb 2017 | 18:25:14 UTC - in response to Message 105350.

The provider of this computing power does not want to their identity revealed before the end of the project (think "big press release"), so if you figure it out, please don't spoil their thunder and talk about it publicly. Thanks in advance for your cooperation!


Huh. Not an application optimization, but a "provider of...computing power". Will this provider be providing computing power to anything else after this is done?


I have no idea, and any speculation would be pointless.
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Message 105390 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 15:49:34 UTC
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We're now generating TRP Sieve workunits with 4x the size and 4x the credit. In addition there's a new (smaller) sieve file. We've removed candidates that were factored out as well as those that were already tested with LLR. It'll take a few hours for the smaller workunits to be sent and then the larger ones will go out. It will still be possible to get a smaller workunit for some time. Each will always give the proper amount of credit for its respective size.

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Message 105400 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 18:24:33 UTC

Please raise the deadline too. I'm participating VERY casually and not running 24/7, but I don't want my workunits go to waste.

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Message 105401 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 18:41:18 UTC - in response to Message 105400.

Please raise the deadline too. I'm participating VERY casually and not running 24/7, but I don't want my workunits go to waste.


The new longer tasks still fall within the realm of what's reasonable for a 4-day deadline. To accommodate people with either exceptionally slow computers or who run their computers only a few hours each day, we created a system that allows such computers to automatically operate with longer deadlines.

Are you aware that the server automatically extends the deadline up to a maximum of 30 days as long as your computer is actually working on the task and making reasonable progress? Or are you saying that 30 days isn't sufficient for the way you are crunching?

On a related topic, we do have contingency plans for making the tasks even longer if we need to improve performance on the server. If we increase the task size again, we will definitely increase the deadline. (Meaning the 4 day "original" deadline. The 30 day extended deadline might or might not change. It would depend on how long the new tasks would be.)
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Message 105403 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 19:10:04 UTC

No, I wasn't aware. :D Thanks for the clarification.

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Message 105405 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 20:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 105401.

Do you have a mechanism for reporting bad hosts ?

This https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=536631 is approaching 12,000 tasks with only 40 that have been found valid. The majority of those don't look right as far as the reported times go but no idea if that indicates anything other than just a reporting problem.

That would help with server performance if fixed :-)

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Message 105406 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 21:38:05 UTC

I've always assumed that it would be a provider of substantial computing power that was the cause of this. I look forward to learning who is contributing that much processing power when the project ends. With any luck, they will shift the processing power over to the TRP LLR effort, but I won't count on it.
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Message 105412 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 22:56:46 UTC - in response to Message 105405.
Last modified: 26 Feb 2017 | 22:58:24 UTC

Do you have a mechanism for reporting bad hosts ?

This https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=536631 is approaching 12,000 tasks with only 40 that have been found valid. The majority of those don't look right as far as the reported times go but no idea if that indicates anything other than just a reporting problem.

That would help with server performance if fixed :-)

Here is one more bad host somehow running Intel's Xeon Phi Coprocessor: http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=537349 ... 10 valid results, 186 abandoned units.

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Message 105414 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 23:38:58 UTC - in response to Message 105412.

Looks like a test run; 185 errors on a machine with 272 cores is not that bad.

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Message 105415 - Posted: 26 Feb 2017 | 23:43:18 UTC
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Let's not get off-topic about reporting malfunctioning hosts. I was already aware of that first one. I've written to the owner. The second one might well have two hosts that look like one host to us. Every time the 2nd one reports, any jobs from the 1st host that aren't listed show up as abandoned. Maybe it's something else. The server will handle it and no, it's not a big drain here. It's orders of magnitude smaller than the computing power we expect to hit TRP Sieve.

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Message 105422 - Posted: 27 Feb 2017 | 8:30:25 UTC

Composite, please take the credit/marketplace discussion to a more appropriate place (I'd suggest General Discussion). I think it's drifted far from having even the remotest connection to TRP-Sieve. Thank you.
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Message 105423 - Posted: 27 Feb 2017 | 8:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 105422.

Good. Please collect these remarks on a market on a new forum.

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Message 105427 - Posted: 27 Feb 2017 | 13:56:14 UTC - in response to Message 105423.

Good. Please collect these remarks on a market on a new forum.


Done: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7319

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Message 105556 - Posted: 4 Mar 2017 | 5:58:08 UTC

Hello all. I´m completely new here. And have never had any of my machines run anything like this before. With that said, I´m glad I can be of help.

I came to this platform after watching a video on youtube from Numberphile. specifically about the number 383. The Woodall search prompted my interest. (I personally suck at math)

After reading a little on the forums, and figuring out how to manage the BIONC manager by itself. I wanted to ask about the TRP sieve. Which my BIONC manager set as default. And being new in here I just let it run for a bit.

Had a hard time figuring out how to get the Woodall LLR and the generic Woodall Sieve cause my TRP sive was taking up everything. I´m sad to report I had to cancel a bunch of them in order to get the Woodalls in my tasks. Cause I didn´t know how to edit the tasks. But....after reading the forums from the TRP sieve I´m worried you need all the power you can ask for. Is this task really an agenda for the next 10 years, and is it really going to be cancelled ?

Thank you in advance,
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Message 105558 - Posted: 4 Mar 2017 | 6:46:56 UTC - in response to Message 105556.

I´m sad to report I had to cancel a bunch of them...


Don't worry about cancelling tasks. It doesn't hurt anything, and it doesn't inconvenience anyone. If there's tasks on your computer that you don't wish to run, there's nothing wrong with cancelling them.

...after reading the forums from the TRP sieve I´m worried you need all the power you can ask for. Is this task really an agenda for the next 10 years, and is it really going to be cancelled ?


First of all, welcome to PrimeGrid!

"Cancelled" isn't the correct word...

There's a lot of work to be done on TRP-Sieve, and at the current rate there's more than ten years worth of work. What's happening is we've been offered a rather substantial amount of computing power that is going to be applied to the TRP-Sieve project. And by "substantial", I mean many times the combined processing power of all of PrimeGrid. We expect, therefore, to be able to complete the entire TRP-Sieve project in a very short time. The project is not being cancelled. This is the opposite, in fact. It's being greatly accelerated.

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Message 105608 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017 | 11:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 105558.

Thanks for the clarification :)

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,009,577)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,841,928)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,028)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,275,412)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,264,475)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,114,159)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,114,260)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,213,603)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,404,447)
Message 105737 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 16:11:51 UTC

It has started. :)
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Found 3 primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,063,954)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,041,705)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,192,769)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,319,313)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,259,745)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,012,651)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,064,898)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,475)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,320,165)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,026,807)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,042,977)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,235,253)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,911,344)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,077,092)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,200,870)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,034,014)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,070,774)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,042,439)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,954,340)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,865,231)
Message 105739 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 16:22:47 UTC - in response to Message 105737.

That's quite the increase in new users just now...I guess sharding the work across a number of users helps to keep the work anonymous until everything has been completed. I'm looking forward to watching the number TRP Sieve tasks in progress gradually rise over the course of the day as this effort ramps up.
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,982,331)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,231,526)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,103,479)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,182,588)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,346,543)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,252,934)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,187,450)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,764,477)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,558,034)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,155,477)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,108,237)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,978,068)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,037,204)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,305,147)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,053)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,030,160)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,253,048)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,243,269)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (170,758,062)
Message 105740 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 16:31:20 UTC
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Given how fast the sieve will go, are other input file updates planned midways through the crunch?

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Message 105744 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 16:43:03 UTC - in response to Message 105740.

Given how fast the sieve will go, are other input file updates planned midways through the crunch?


We're not sure. Jim created a new sieve file before this started, so we're already running a brand new sieve file. Whether we do a new sieve file or not will depend not only on how many factors are found, but also on bandwidth concerns.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,482)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,670)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,502)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (114,572)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,015)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,657)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,529,927)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,043)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,539)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,264)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,466)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,910)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,005,637)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,861)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,033,489)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,365,882)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,061)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,118)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (250,199)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (131,126)
Message 105763 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 20:07:59 UTC - in response to Message 105737.

It has started. :)


Where is the best place to look to see and watch the progress?

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,009,577)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,841,928)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,028)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,275,412)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,264,475)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,114,159)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,114,260)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,213,603)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,404,447)
Message 105764 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 20:12:31 UTC - in response to Message 105763.

It has started. :)


Where is the best place to look to see and watch the progress?


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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,982,331)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,231,526)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,103,479)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,182,588)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,346,543)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,252,934)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,187,450)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,764,477)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,558,034)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,155,477)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,108,237)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,978,068)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,037,204)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,305,147)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,053)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,030,160)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,253,048)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,243,269)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (170,758,062)
Message 105765 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 20:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 105763.

It has started. :)


Where is the best place to look to see and watch the progress?

At the left of the page, on the end, there's a "Task Status" link. Use that to measure stuff: http://www.primegrid.com/server_status_tasks.php

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,482)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,670)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,502)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (114,572)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,015)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,657)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,529,927)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,043)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,539)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,264)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,466)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,910)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,005,637)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,861)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,033,489)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,365,882)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,061)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,118)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (250,199)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (131,126)
Message 105766 - Posted: 7 Mar 2017 | 20:27:29 UTC - in response to Message 105764.

It has started. :)


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Thanks. I'm excited. I'm looking forward to hearing more about it when whoever decides to let that information out.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 4 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 3 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,836,135)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,168,095)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,401,438)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,458,304)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,702,911)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,641,950)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,112,589)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,058,593)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,697,810)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,491,050)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,037,126)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,753,607)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,178,073)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (56,046,594)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (500,175,369)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,468,384)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,076,645)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (425,443,925)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (212,081,556)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (125,982,552)
Message 105798 - Posted: 8 Mar 2017 | 16:53:04 UTC

I'm seeing a large number of errors from these new computers, to the point that going through my (relatively insignificant number of) tasks I haven't found one that has validated against me, but all are erroring out in various ways and haven't successfully completed any tasks.

The graphs say more work is being completed (and it's too early to say at what % of the total of course). What kind of success rate are we seeing? Is PG working with this enormous entity to ensure the touted awesomeness?
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Message 105799 - Posted: 8 Mar 2017 | 16:56:14 UTC

Just like always, a malfunctioning host can generate a tremendous number of bad tasks. Just like always, the server will handle it automatically.

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Message 105803 - Posted: 8 Mar 2017 | 17:22:07 UTC - in response to Message 105798.

I'm seeing a large number of errors from these new computers, to the point that going through my (relatively insignificant number of) tasks I haven't found one that has validated against me, but all are erroring out in various ways and haven't successfully completed any tasks.

The graphs say more work is being completed (and it's too early to say at what % of the total of course). What kind of success rate are we seeing? Is PG working with this enormous entity to ensure the touted awesomeness?


I haven't bothered getting an exact number, but there's probably a few dozen hosts that are having trouble. Considering in excess of 80 thousand hosts have connected, that's not a lot. Just like we've seen with all other apps, sometimes there's some reason why the app will break immediately. When it takes only 3 seconds to produce an error, it doesn't take a lot of computers to produce a lot of errors. It's not really a problem as far as the overall project is concerned.
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Message 105814 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 5:47:16 UTC

Hey everyone,

I´ve noticed that some of my tasks get validated immediately. And others don´t.

Specifically I have 3 TRP sieves pending since march 3rd. Does this indicate a problem with my computing, or is the main server being flooded with results ?

If it is indeed on my end, I will promptly try to figure it out. But any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Message 105815 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 6:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 105814.

Specifically I have 3 TRP sieves pending since march 3rd. Does this indicate a problem with my computing, or is the main server being flooded with results ?

It is difficult to advise with your computers being hidden. However, if your other tasks validate successfully, it probably just means that we're waiting for another host to return a result that matches the one you computed. This is normal behavior - you can look into the workunits that are pending and you should see another host still running the second task.

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Message 105816 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 7:36:49 UTC - in response to Message 105815.

Thank you for the quick response !

To be honest I never explored that feature you mentioned about the workunits.
I´m learning every day. This is a great learning curve for me :)

Those 3 pending sieves I´ve looked at through the workunit now.
They all say in progress, whith no status posted but just in progress, whith a various deadline. March 9th, 12 and 14th for those three pending I have.

Does that mean, the March 9th will be rendered useless if the deadline passes ?

And so for the rest...

Thank you

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Message 105817 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 7:38:58 UTC - in response to Message 105816.

I might add, that computers after me reported error while computing. But in progress now with a different computer.

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Message 105818 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 7:44:34 UTC - in response to Message 105817.

And downloading errors....I get it now. It´s not on my end. PHEW.

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Message 105822 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 9:38:57 UTC

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All normal behaviour in order to get a matching result. Usually just leave it to do it. As long as you do your bit right :).

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Message 105823 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 11:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 105818.

And downloading errors....I get it now. It´s not on my end. PHEW.


Exactly. Everything we do MUST be checked by two different computers. If you're the first person to return a task, you have to wait for the other guy.


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Message 105834 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 17:45:21 UTC

Update:

We added 25% of the computers two days ago, and then took a day to observe the PrimeGrid server to make sure it performed as expected. We've now begun adding the second 25%.

Since we started adding these computers, the number of in-progress TRP-Sieve tasks has increased from about 18 thousand to over 300 thousand tasks. I expect it to exceed one million tasks when all the computers are online.
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Message 105836 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 17:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 105834.

Update:

We added 25% of the computers two days ago, and then took a day to observe the PrimeGrid server to make sure it performed as expected. We've now begun adding the second 25%.

Since we started adding these computers, the number of in-progress TRP-Sieve tasks has increased from about 18 thousand to over 300 thousand tasks. I expect it to exceed one million tasks when all the computers are online.



That's a lotta computing power... Is that 1 month estimate until completition still standing, or do you think it'll take longer / less time?

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Message 105837 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 18:21:58 UTC - in response to Message 105836.

That's a lotta computing power...


Yes it is indeed a lot of computing power. We're trying very hard to make sure we don't drown the server in a self-induced DDOS attack! :)

Is that 1 month estimate until completition still standing, or do you think it'll take longer / less time?


It's hard to say, but I think it's in the ballpark. There's still a lot of unknowns.
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Message 105838 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 18:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 105837.

A truly fearsome number of cores...

Still, the expected remaining time means I should get the next badge comfortably in some days and get back to GCW sieve.

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Message 105839 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 20:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 105834.

Update:

We added 25% of the computers two days ago, and then took a day to observe the PrimeGrid server to make sure it performed as expected. We've now begun adding the second 25%.


You are adding the computers? Does this mean that you got access to "their" computer(s)? I thought "they" (whoever "they" are) were adding computers or cores.

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Update:

We added 25% of the computers two days ago, and then took a day to observe the PrimeGrid server to make sure it performed as expected. We've now begun adding the second 25%.


You are adding the computers? Does this mean that you got access to "their" computer(s)? I thought "they" (whoever "they" are) were adding computers or cores.


"They" are adding them, but only when we tell them it's safe to add more.

Also, this is really a question of semantics. If person 'A' tells person 'B', "Please add more computers," who is responsible for adding the computers, 'A' or 'B'? In my mind the answer is "both", so my using the word "we" is appropriate as well as accurate.
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Message 105846 - Posted: 9 Mar 2017 | 22:56:07 UTC

I see on charts that these new computers already returned some results, but charts "Flops per Second" does not show any significant increase. Is TRP-Sieve excluded from them?
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Message 105853 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 1:57:31 UTC - in response to Message 105846.

I see on charts that these new computers already returned some results, but charts "Flops per Second" does not show any significant increase. Is TRP-Sieve excluded from them?


It's included, however flops per second is based on cumulative user RAC, and therefore changes fairly slowly.
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Message 105857 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 5:49:40 UTC - in response to Message 105837.

It's hard to say, but I think it's in the ballpark. There's still a lot of unknowns.


Like unknown primes ?

INSERT LAUGHING SMILEY


HEH.

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Message 105858 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 5:50:03 UTC

When you mentioned DDOS, the word botnet comes to mind.

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Message 105866 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 12:11:24 UTC - in response to Message 105858.

When you mentioned DDOS, the word botnet comes to mind.


Well, take out the malware, the black hats, and the intent to do harm and essentially all "citizen science" projects, including but not limited to BOINC, are systems where multitudes of remote computers are controlled by a central entity. And if used improperly, they can do harm.

There once was a BOINC project called, um... I can't remember exactly, and it no longer shows up my project list. Ah, Free-DC has the full list (and I actually did have the right name!) It was called Depspid. "Spid" was short for spider. It was a research project exploring the structure of the Internet. It was one of the early "Non-Compute Intensive" BOINC projects. It used hardly any CPU, but did do network access.

Anyone see a problem there?

It was fine when I ran it on one computer. But if I ran it on all the computers in my house, it saturated my Internet connection and slowed everybody down.

I shudder to think what happened when people ran this on their computers at work!

So, yeah, self-inflicted DDOS is definitely a possibility. Heck, back in the old days when PrimeGrid ran on physical servers, every time we ran a challenge, especially when the tasks were short, was essentially a self-inflicted DDOS attack. Challenges are why we were confident we could handle the extra load. Many aspects of handling this many computers are similar to what occurs during a challenge, and we don't have problems with challenges anymore.
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Message 105881 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 15:34:35 UTC

Update:

The server is showing some effects from the increased load, and we taken a few corrective steps to prevent problems. Some of the steps you might notice:

* We've blacklisted several hundred hosts that were producing large numbers of errors. 0.22% of the hosts were creating 25% of the tasks. (If yours is one of the blacklisted computers, and you've fixed the problem, please let us know and we can reinstate the host.)

* We've reduced the purge time on TRP-Sieve to help prevent the database from growing too large. It's now two days, down from four. I may lower it to one day if conditions warrant.

We're almost at the 50% level. We're going to wait a few days before adding the next batch of hosts.
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Message 105882 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 15:39:16 UTC - in response to Message 105881.

* We've blacklisted several hundred hosts that were producing large numbers of errors. 0.22% of the hosts were creating 25% of the tasks. (If yours is one of the blacklisted computers, and you've fixed the problem, please let us know and we can reinstate the host.)

Any way for us to know if a given PC is blacklisted or not?

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Message 105883 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 15:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 105882.

* We've blacklisted several hundred hosts that were producing large numbers of errors. 0.22% of the hosts were creating 25% of the tasks. (If yours is one of the blacklisted computers, and you've fixed the problem, please let us know and we can reinstate the host.)

Any way for us to know if a given PC is blacklisted or not?



It won't be able to get tasks from PrimeGrid. I think Jim only blacklisted hosts with a significant number of errors, however. I'll make sure yours isn't on the list.

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Message 105884 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 15:54:30 UTC - in response to Message 105883.

* We've blacklisted several hundred hosts that were producing large numbers of errors. 0.22% of the hosts were creating 25% of the tasks. (If yours is one of the blacklisted computers, and you've fixed the problem, please let us know and we can reinstate the host.)

Any way for us to know if a given PC is blacklisted or not?



It won't be able to get tasks from PrimeGrid. I think Jim only blacklisted hosts with a significant number of errors, however. I'll make sure yours isn't on the list.

This one, specifically.

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Message 105886 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 16:44:04 UTC - in response to Message 105884.

* We've blacklisted several hundred hosts that were producing large numbers of errors. 0.22% of the hosts were creating 25% of the tasks. (If yours is one of the blacklisted computers, and you've fixed the problem, please let us know and we can reinstate the host.)

Any way for us to know if a given PC is blacklisted or not?



It won't be able to get tasks from PrimeGrid. I think Jim only blacklisted hosts with a significant number of errors, however. I'll make sure yours isn't on the list.

This one, specifically.



It's not on the list either.
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