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Walter Darimont
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Message 96107 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 4:25:31 UTC

Congratulations!

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Message 96108 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 4:43:02 UTC - in response to Message 96107.

Congratulations!



Well it will make for interesting times. It is going to be fascinating to see what happens.

I suspect the start of the end for the whole EU as it now stands and possibly of the UK too.

One of my daughters was undecided about buying currency for a forthcoming trip yesterday. I opined the result would be remain as my investments were up 7% on the week. (Current forecasts are that they will be down rather more than that at 0800.)

Oh and if you'd care to visit the UK it just got an awful lot cheaper.

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Message 96109 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 6:22:00 UTC

Well I've not shown much interest tbh but today I'm in shock. Looks like backwards is the new forwards.

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Message 96110 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 7:33:09 UTC

Anyone in the UK, if you were thinking of buying anything big in the UK that originated outside UK, do it now. You can be sure there will be price adjustments, not for the better. Last saw this during the 2008 economic crisis when high tech electronic goods gradually went up tens of %.

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Message 96111 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 7:34:38 UTC

Better get the €s our for my holiday then.

Glad I heard about this on here first though :).

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Message 96112 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 8:06:58 UTC - in response to Message 96110.

And also now might be a very good time to buy shares listed on the UK markets which do most of their business outside the UK and especially those who report in currencies other than sterling. The price of the shares have gone down. The business is little affected so the profits in say USD will not be much less. The exchange rate change means that the dividend in UK currency terms will be greater. There are plenty to choose from.

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Message 96114 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 8:41:37 UTC

I have to say I'm a little disappointed with the result (to put it mildly), in case I didn't already say so I was in the losing 48%... But "alea iacta est", and as Tim says, it will be an interesting ride, that's for sure.

A difficult day for many of my colleagues at EPCC, since we obtain around 30% of our funding from the EU Horizon 2020 research grant programme, and especially as we lead the software development activity in the Partnership for Advanced Computing in Europe i.e. the main support organisation for European High performance Computing. Hopefully who ever is left in charge of the UK will be looking favourably towards the university sector...

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Message 96116 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 9:02:36 UTC - in response to Message 96114.

Iain, do you think there will be a fresh push for Scottish independence following this result? It would seem Scotland was much more pro-remain.

Elsewhere: if pricing hasn't changed I think I'm going to order a VR system now before those prices go up. Goodbye reality.

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Message 96118 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 9:33:05 UTC - in response to Message 96116.

Iain, do you think there will be a fresh push for Scottish independence following this result? It would seem Scotland was much more pro-remain.

Elsewhere: if pricing hasn't changed I think I'm going to order a VR system now before those prices go up. Goodbye reality.



Subject to Rick's veto I'd be very interested too. In my opinion we can talk about such matters so long as it conducted in a civil way as I think we have always done about such matter. Obviously having a laugh and a joke is very much part of what we do but I'd suggest we might want to be circumspect about that when we discuss politics.

Later on I'll be awfully interested in the US elections.

Anyway I think it is a matter for Rick.

Assuming it is proper I think the Scottish situation is most interesting. By a narrow majority they decided to stay a part of the Union. For myself I thought that should be the end of the matter for many years. Now the English declare that they will leave the EU while the Scots vote to remain. I think under those circumstances it is only proper for the Scots to decide whether or not to remain a part of the UK.

But how would one vote?

The EU said that it was by no means certain that an independent Scotland would be allowed to join the EU. It would be like something from Euripedes for the Scots to leave the UK but be refused membership of the EU.

The price of oil has increased over the last 6 months but could an independent Scotland survive?

I am not entitled to vote in such a matter but while the idea of an independent Scotland appeals to me a) as English and we'll be rid of the cost, b) as a Romantic; it is a brave dream and self-determination is important and finally and I suspect most importantly c) as it would focus London's attention on Cornwall I am not sure which way I would vote.

I'd very much like to see Iain's thoughts.

One way or another this is one of the most historic days of the last couple of hundred years.

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Message 96120 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 9:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 96118.

I'd very much like to see Iain's thoughts.


Personally, the reasons I voted for Scottish independence in the last referendum still stand. Primarily that Scotland is decidedly more socialist than the UK as a whole (esp. England), and on that score is actually more closely aligned to Brussels than Westminster. Given that Brexit is likely to drag the UK further to the right (most of the prominent Brexit policies are right-wing e.g. reduce immigration, and I don't really think we'll see the £350m ploughed back into the NHS and education...) I think this argument only becomes stronger.

However, the SNP will only call for another Scottish referendum if they are 100% clear that they will win. There are already rumblings about this, but I think it will take some years, if it all.

There are also some interesting political ramifications for UK politics, particularly the Europhile and Eurosceptic wings of the tories, and the UKIP. Possibility for a split / merger. Could PM Boris (or God forbid, Gove), appoint Farage to the cabinet?

I believe we have been cursed indeed by the Chinese to live in 'interesting times'!

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Message 96121 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 10:02:51 UTC - in response to Message 96120.

I agree with almost all you have written Iain. I just wonder if the pressure on the SNP will be such that they are forced to call another referendum. If that were lost it is hard to see how another could be called in your life time.

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Message 96125 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 10:11:58 UTC - in response to Message 96109.
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Well I've not shown much interest tbh but today I'm in shock. Looks like backwards is the new forwards.


Same thoughts here.

A lot of people aged 50+ (and a lot of 60/70+) saw this as an opportunity to take "revenge" on the initial 1975 vote, I think. A lot of bitterness about that, which may or may not be justified... but it's irrelevant now, because the year is 2016.

Much older people can also afford years of instability with Boris as PM and Gove as his right-hand man, too, looking at the "bigger picture". At 34 and renting a flat, I don't really want any years of instability at the moment.

So thanks, well-off older people whose personal children and grandchildren are financially stable. Seriously, that's a really selfish vote. No matter how hard and well I work now, how can I get a mortgage? Marry someone I don't really love and move to a country I don't really like, whilst you enjoy your few years of retirement? Again, thanks very much.

For the record, I hate Cameron and the current government too, so I'm no fan of what was currently in place. I can only hope I'm wrong and this displaces HamfacerTron, and paves the way for a new era. I doubt it though, I mean look at Michael Gove's record. He's hated by the NUT, hated by the NHS, and just about everyone else. What exactly happens in a world where the three most powerful people (who like wars) in the world are Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, and Vladimir Putin?

I think the masses of England (NOT the UK, because the Scottish got it right) are misguided and uneducated, when it comes to this. I think this is a terrible time to be living; such an unstable world. We should all be working things out together (not North Korea, of course), to make everywhere better, not isolating ourselves and playing everyone off each other.

Let's just all ****ing grow up, shall we?

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Message 96131 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 11:52:12 UTC

Uneducated yes definitely. I wonder if it's due to immigration & people having problems with people of other cultures (racial views / housing shortages). Leaving is also potentially very harmful to businesses trying to make one-Europe.

That's all I have to say & know. I'm not a political person. Let's hope it leads to more manual sieving :D!

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Message 96133 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 13:13:00 UTC

I can understand the different opinions. A spirited discussion is always welcome and encouraged!

Please remember keep it civil and remember we do have minors on the team.

@gazzy - I am still trying to keep my perfect Peter Pan thing going HA

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Message 96164 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 16:49:27 UTC

A few notes from "across the pond".

- I'm not close enough to the situation and its details to have ever formed an opinion on favoring "leave" or "remain". I did find the result "surprising".

- Today's stock market activity has taken a noticeable bite from my retirement investments. The markets will bounce back, I know, but as I'm not working now and live off a small pension and investment income, it's always a bit troubling when uncertainty like this rattles the market.

- I brought back some British banknotes and coins in April, mainly as souvenirs. I guess I should have exchanged them. Nah, it's less than $50 total, and the souvenir value is still there :-)

- I'd wager that 95% of Americans don't know the name "David Cameron', what job he's leaving, nor why. A fair portion won't be able to point to the UK on a map. Bad on us; too much focus on things like what the Kardashians are doing. Blecch.

- Unlikely that the retail cost of products from the UK will change much here. Any saving from currency exchange will just be kept by retailers to pad the profit margin, rather than passed to consumers as lower prices. Same old story.

- Purely from a sentimental standpoint, I hope to not see the UK fractured nor lose control of overseas lands.

Enough ranting. Best to all.

--Gary

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Message 96165 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 16:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 96164.

- Purely from a sentimental standpoint, I hope to not see the UK fractured nor lose control of overseas lands.


I just hope it won't lead to any increase in security risks.

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Message 96167 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 22:19:52 UTC - in response to Message 96133.

I can understand the different opinions. A spirited discussion is always welcome and encouraged!

Please remember keep it civil and remember we do have minors on the team.


Yes, that was a bit too far for both reasons, I've edited it slightly for the latter. It was a long night/morning and I was "tired and emotional"*.

I've read it back, and realised that it might have seemed like I was aiming it at member(s) here - I honestly wasn't, I was thinking of my dad and his circle of old pub mates, who can be extremely narrow-minded. So sorry for any confusion there. Even after a few adult beverages I hope I'd not be that rude to a fellow AtP member.

*That phrase was coined by an English politician, or his party's spin-doctor, back in the 50s or 60s, wasn't it? After he'd literally had too many adult beverages and done something or other, hence the ironic meaning of the phrase now.

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Message 96170 - Posted: 24 Jun 2016 | 22:43:26 UTC

A topic I can support! Adult beverages!

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Message 96174 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 2:54:06 UTC

On a side note, I hear the EU now has 1 GB of free space.
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Message 96176 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 3:25:23 UTC - in response to Message 96174.

On a side note, I hear the EU now has 1 GB of free space.

That one might be a bit too soon. But your young, they will let it slide. ;)
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Message 96177 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 3:59:02 UTC

Right that's too much, I'm going to ask that you be banished from PrimeGrid immediately.

;)

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Message 96178 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 5:06:28 UTC - in response to Message 96177.

Right, came back here, having found it - the last definition on this page is what I'd heard, although I thought it was something far more frivolous, i.e. falling over or whatever.

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-2337,00.html

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Message 96182 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 6:37:57 UTC - in response to Message 96167.

It is a generous apology Gazzikins. I had not regarded it as an attack on me or on any other member.

I have pondered before writing the next sentence. You kindly and nobly wrote a personal message to me about that. Since I have no credit I can not reply to private messages. I was torn between saying you had written to me personally when you had not mentioned that publicly and appearing very rude to you by not replying. I hope I made the right choice.

There is an argument that the UK being out of Europe will restrict immigration. That could mean less competition for jobs and hence higher wages and less competition for housing meaning that house prices will go down. I have a feeling that along with a general reaction against a remote and high-handed elite in the UK and elsewhere was a major reason why many traditional supporters of the left voted to leave. Of course we could all go to hell in a hand-cart.

I don't think i have said how I voted and I don't intend to now; we have the situation we have and we'll have to deal with it.

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Message 96183 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 6:56:31 UTC - in response to Message 96182.
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I have no intention of telling anyone else how to vote, hence my shame in the "morning" when realising that it could have come across like that. I like how I had voted, but also realise that swaying or attacking anyone else's vote is... well, that way madness lies.

VERY tired, and VERY emotional, that night. Glad we're all still a team here at Aggie.

Separately, I know someone who was a vote-counter:

- Loads of people simply crossed both boxes
- Loads of people wrote their name and/or address on the ballot paper, thus invalidating their vote, which presumably they wanted to count.

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Message 96184 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 7:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 96182.

Somewhat off-topic, but I think if you run even one tiny work unit that validates, then the web site will let you post anywhere, including private messages. Just so you know.

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Message 96186 - Posted: 25 Jun 2016 | 7:50:33 UTC - in response to Message 96178.

Right, came back here, having found it - the last definition on this page is what I'd heard, although I thought it was something far more frivolous, i.e. falling over or whatever.

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-2337,00.html



One of my very favourite aphorisms is to "refer to the reply given in Pressdram v Arkell". English law was a lot more fun in the days before the legal reforms and law firm consolidations of the turn of the century. I have seen it used in actual legal correspondence a couple of times. Hard to imagine that happening without someone getting struck off these days.

It is both downright obscene but also funny. If you are squeamish look away now http://www.lettersofnote.com/2013/08/arkell-v-pressdram.html

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Message 96303 - Posted: 27 Jun 2016 | 12:49:54 UTC

I used to work a lot in Europe especially in the European Courts. I was an examiner for the European Qualifying Examination for my legal speciality. I am or at any rate was on extremely good terms with a fellow examiner who is also a judge (we never had a case in common). He is pragmatist but it is remarkable that he is between the first and second stages of grief.

Interesting times.

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Message 96311 - Posted: 27 Jun 2016 | 17:31:09 UTC
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There is an interesting story doing the rounds.

Historically a UK government could call an election when it thought it could win subject to an overall time limit. I recall an election less than a year after the previous one.

In 2010 a fixed term law (I think rather similar to that in the US) was passed and the next election is not scheduled until May 2020 unless there is a vote of no confidence in the government. There is a rumour that the new Conservative, ie party in power, leader will call for a vote of no confidence in his or her own government to force an election before the year is out. I suspect that very much depends on who becomes leader of the Conservatives but it is a fascinating thought. How will that one go if it happens?

As I may have mentioned we live in interesting times.

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Message 96316 - Posted: 27 Jun 2016 | 18:18:55 UTC

I used to watch the British broadcast of the House of Commons I believe (not completely sure which one) during which the Prime Minister would answer and/or respond to questions. It appeared to me whenever I watched that there were several different parties involved with lots of non-gentlemanly gestures and snide remarks.. was rather fun to watch.

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Message 96319 - Posted: 27 Jun 2016 | 18:34:13 UTC

I think the Australians win here.

I am fairly sure that A asserted that in whatever kind of subservient outfit they have for convicts B had the intellect of an ass. C complained. A apologised and said it was true that B did not have the intellect of an ass.

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Message 96320 - Posted: 27 Jun 2016 | 18:46:18 UTC

Ahh but while I think of it who could doubt Baroness Trumpington's reply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk4PxpW7yVY

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Message 96324 - Posted: 27 Jun 2016 | 20:04:54 UTC - in response to Message 96320.

Ahh but while I think of it who could doubt Baroness Trumpington's reply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk4PxpW7yVY


hmm no age limit I see

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