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robertmiles
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Posts: 121
ID: 52682
Credit: 101,555,708
RAC: 7,584
321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (566,928)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (248,898)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (464,536)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (267,930)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,587,679)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (485,755)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (194,975)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (406,836)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (132,133)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (808,504)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (286,770)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (199,368)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (438,466)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (687,585)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,747,654)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (186,969)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (526,040)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,240,807)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,206,241)WW Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,780,000)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,091,634)
Message 90257 - Posted: 6 Dec 2015 | 15:39:50 UTC

The latest Windows 10 update causes some problems affecting BOINC users.

First, it disables OpenCL use, at least for my GT 440. Installing the Nvidia version of the most recent graphics driver enables it again, though.

Second, it installs Skype. The last time I tried installing Skype on my Windows 10 desktop, just having it installed (even it not running) slowed down all other programs by about 50%, so I uninstalled it soon afterwards. I haven't seen anything yet on whether the version this update installs fixes this slowdown problem.

Another problem with less effect on BOINC:

It changed your default browser without your permission. For me, changing it back worked, though.

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Credit: 702,606,345
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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,625,709)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,002,272)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,010,411)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,015,328)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,046,738)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,032,920)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,044,307)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,106)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,308)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,310)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,004,881)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,048,750)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,013,479)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (339,577,685)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,162)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,031)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,003,824)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,882,125)WW Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (203,296,000)
Message 90264 - Posted: 7 Dec 2015 | 2:19:48 UTC

My Windows 10 experience lasted about 6 hrs. It down-clocked my CPU from 2.2GHz to about 1.7 GHz. CPU utilization never got above 81%. Reverted back to Win 7. Microsoft will make a Linux user of me yet.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,066,244)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,293,199)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,672,432)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,811)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (944,431)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,880,340)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,579,656)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,092,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 90269 - Posted: 7 Dec 2015 | 12:44:43 UTC - in response to Message 90264.

My Windows 10 experience lasted about 6 hrs. It down-clocked my CPU from 2.2GHz to about 1.7 GHz. CPU utilization never got above 81%. Reverted back to Win 7. Microsoft will make a Linux user of me yet.


That 2.2 machine is right on the bottom edge of the capabilities for Win10 I think, if you want to try it on your 2.16ghz machine I think it would be better.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,048,709)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,026,008)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,098,225)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,127,156)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,015,895)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,069,940)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,045,552)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,434,201)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,129,290)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,050,008)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,062,520)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,500,323)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,500,349)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (243,349,119)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,516,062)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,329,228)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,185,540)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (138,995,552)WW Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,228,000)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,531,700)
Message 90310 - Posted: 9 Dec 2015 | 20:11:08 UTC - in response to Message 90264.

My Windows 10 experience lasted about 6 hrs. It down-clocked my CPU from 2.2GHz to about 1.7 GHz. CPU utilization never got above 81%. Reverted back to Win 7. Microsoft will make a Linux user of me yet.

As a precautionary measure I upgraded only one of my duo cores to Win 10 and I am also not impressed. At some point this week I will be going back to Win 7 Pro 64-bit.

With Win 10, I cannot believe the number of background processes which eat away CPU cycles. My I7 quad core is staying put with Win 7 Pro 64-bit.

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Credit: 592,082,665
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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,066,244)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,293,199)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,672,432)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,811)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (944,431)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,880,340)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,579,656)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,092,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 90317 - Posted: 10 Dec 2015 | 12:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 90310.

My Windows 10 experience lasted about 6 hrs. It down-clocked my CPU from 2.2GHz to about 1.7 GHz. CPU utilization never got above 81%. Reverted back to Win 7. Microsoft will make a Linux user of me yet.

As a precautionary measure I upgraded only one of my duo cores to Win 10 and I am also not impressed. At some point this week I will be going back to Win 7 Pro 64-bit.

With Win 10, I cannot believe the number of background processes which eat away CPU cycles. My I7 quad core is staying put with Win 7 Pro 64-bit.


I have an AMD 6 core with 16gb of ram that started out on the trial and has been updated all the way to the newest and it isn't having any problems, now I do not use it as my regular pc but it crunches both cpu and gpu units just fine with no problems.

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 3 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,455,451)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,661,696)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (729,408)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,205,397)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,716,433)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,113,325)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,082,298)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,284,829)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (632,629)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,321,051)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (127,395)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (88,433)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,626,395)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (135,099,567)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (555,042)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,089,296)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,347,510)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (234,184,831)WW Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,284,000)
Message 90321 - Posted: 10 Dec 2015 | 22:17:48 UTC

I have latest Windows 10 x64 Pro version 1511 OS build 10586.29.

No problems with previously installed BOINC 7.6.9 x64. Still crunching same type of GFN tasks on both cpu and gpus (n=16, OCL3), with no difference in performance other than temperature-related gpu clock speed during slightly higher ambient room temperature.

i7-4790K and GTX TITAN Black SC.

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Credit: 251,289,489
RAC: 10,263
321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,544,251)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,289,485)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,043,970)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,162)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (543,114)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,323,617)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,450,855)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,237,605)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (492,250)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,022,889)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,348,306)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,038)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,114,673)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,489)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (111,084,324)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,629,188)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (558,843)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,340,109)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,820,300)WW Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,192,000)
Message 90609 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015 | 15:16:00 UTC

I have moved several boxes to Windows 10. The issues I have seen are certainly the GPU driver updates as reported. I have also seen the upgrade change my systems power options to Balanced which made the system go to sleep. So, if you are seeing downclocking and other weird behavior, double check your settings.
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Credit: 478,773,166
RAC: 255,635
321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,008,611)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,005,009)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,041,747)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,820)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,020,730)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,049,767)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,091,400)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,003,746)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,215)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,903)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,076,850)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,033,828)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,037,204)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,305,147)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,053)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,030,160)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,015,953)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,564,025)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,712,000)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (170,761,999)
Message 90610 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015 | 15:24:05 UTC
Last modified: 20 Dec 2015 | 15:24:30 UTC

Weirdly enough, the only issue I've seen is an immediate driver crash (no screen flicker, though) when I open Media Player classic AND have PPS sieve running. No problems with genefer or GFN Sieve, but dat PPS...... it's weird. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. And it's annoying.

But barring that, no other Boinc issues on 10.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,761,944)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (800,070)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,357,780)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,122,712)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,391)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (651,117)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,712,028)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,582,202)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,864,098)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (624,562)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,418,974)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,036,945)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (83,631,931)PPS Sieve Double Jade: Earned 10,000,000,000 credits (17,636,778,723)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (46,622,519)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,704,392)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,670,198)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (173,845,705)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (55,560,000)
Message 90740 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015 | 17:25:29 UTC

I am being a chicken, staying with Windows 7 until the bugs are cleared up by W10. Although my computers keep getting tempted by the MSFT co.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,066,244)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,074,615)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,243,517)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,142,353)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,293,199)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,103)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,934,612)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,071,823)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,780,752)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,672,432)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,811)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,770,672)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (944,431)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,813,253)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (379,578,052)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,446,797)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,880,340)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (67,579,656)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,092,000)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,457,430)
Message 90753 - Posted: 31 Dec 2015 | 11:10:02 UTC - in response to Message 90740.

I am being a chicken, staying with Windows 7 until the bugs are cleared up by W10. Although my computers keep getting tempted by the MSFT co.


MOST pc's will have no trouble upgrading at this point, there was a problem with SSD drivers but MSFT got those fixed, for the most part, in the latest round of updates. All the normal SSD drivers are now 'in there' but if someone has a no name or off brand one it could still be a problem. There is a way to let MSFT check to see if everything is compatible, but I don't remember how right now. A friends old scanner isn't compatible so he too is waiting to see if it will be at some point.

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