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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (643,407)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (621,275)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,082,872)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,149,800)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (609,211)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,278,433)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (604,650)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (536,194)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (595,071)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (529,793)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (691,805)321 Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,558,492)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (684,323)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (178,332,642)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,341)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (304,920)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,717,241)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (111,971,022)PSA Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,686,430)
Message 86410 - Posted: 25 Jun 2015 | 16:52:15 UTC

I have had several LLR tasks recently fail to validate, most noticably on the 321 subproject. Looks like about 50% of the time, it isn't working properly for 321.

Most of my other tasks seem to be fine, but I seem to be having a systematic problem with the 321 tasks.

If it helps, I was probably running a second BOINC project on the same machine when these tasks were run, I am no longer doing that.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,893,273)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,440,687)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,738,876)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,292,626)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,648,951)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,653,927)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,558,341)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,748,705)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,335,713)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,602,818)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,282,622)321 Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (740,566)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (59,788,598)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,143,068)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (524,673,938)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,130,821)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,074,710)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (43,842,888)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (224,648,943)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (62,378,755)
Message 86412 - Posted: 25 Jun 2015 | 19:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 86410.

The most common reason for tasks going "inconclusive" and then later "invalid" is an extreme overclock'd CPU, or, more generally, heat. I know that's probably not the answer you wanted to hear :-) An error that occurs anywhere along the way in the LLR work (like 321) will foul the result, so the longer tasks are more susceptible to that.

You have some TRP-LLR tasks that are inconclusive too. There is no known problem with 321 in general. I think the general wisdom would be to reset any CPU or memory overclock back to "stock" in BIOS, and see how things go there, and if "good", then maybe nudge the clocks up gradually. Blast the case and fans out with compressed air to improve cooling. LLR is a CPU (&memory) torture test. I had a box with an AMD CPU a while back and I did notice it was less tolerant of being pushed hard compared to Intel SB (or IB).

Check in here when you get a chance and let us know how it goes.

--Gary

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (643,407)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (621,275)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,082,872)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,149,800)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (609,211)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,278,433)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (604,650)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (536,194)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (595,071)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (529,793)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (691,805)321 Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,558,492)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (684,323)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (178,332,642)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,341)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (304,920)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,717,241)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (111,971,022)PSA Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,686,430)
Message 86417 - Posted: 25 Jun 2015 | 21:40:54 UTC - in response to Message 86412.

My CPU is not overclocked at all, so i doubt that is it. However I was recently playing with the number of cores and % CPU time I was using for BOINC. I had run into problems with a different BOINC project previously, and stopped running that project to focus on Primegrid. I think I might have been a bit too aggressive, so restoring those settings should help.

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Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,037,982)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,015,907)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,391)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,088,705)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,220,665)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,539,644)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,122,524)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,238,295)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,024,064)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,125,391)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,037,732)321 Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,190,731)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (207,387)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,049,697)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,422,123)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,227,972)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,659)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,651,644)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (57,918,585)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (43,298,465)
Message 86421 - Posted: 26 Jun 2015 | 0:48:28 UTC

If its happening consistently then maybe your memory has a problem, even if its not overclocked.
Try removing and replacing the memory. With AMD you'd only have dual channel. If you know someone with a similar PC try swapping memory sticks with them. If the problem goes away you know its time to buy new memory.

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