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Samy_Bourghol
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,909)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,013,953)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,815,590)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,314)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,130,950)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,044)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (275,005)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,933,364)
Message 85862 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015 | 7:30:55 UTC

Hello,

I have figured out that when I log out and stop using my gpu which is computing the PSS Stieve subproject my screen freezes than an nvidia error driver message appears, sometime the screen goes black and I have to manually restart my pc.

When I cancel the PSS STIEVE and switch to Genefer 3.07 and opencl computing I have no issues. The computer is running fine and can stop the work whenever I want without any freeze.

All my sof and drivers are up to date, I'm using win8.1 64bit and sli gtx970.

Can anyone explain why this happening?

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Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,037,982)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,015,907)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,232,391)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,088,705)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,962,062)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,539,644)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,122,524)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,238,295)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,040,360)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,125,391)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,037,732)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,190,731)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (207,387)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,049,697)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,422,123)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,227,972)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,659)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,651,644)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (57,918,585)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (43,298,465)
Message 85866 - Posted: 1 Jun 2015 | 23:11:10 UTC - in response to Message 85862.

Hi Samy,

Welcome to Primegrid! I don't have a NVIDIA GPU, but is yours overclocked? If so you might want to try downclocking it first to see if that fixes the problem. Could be a heatflow issue in your PC case. Have a read through some of the posts in this message board, someone's bound to have had your problem previously.

Cheers,
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,909)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,013,953)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,815,590)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,314)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,130,950)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,044)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (275,005)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,933,364)
Message 85870 - Posted: 2 Jun 2015 | 11:17:16 UTC - in response to Message 85866.

hi thanks for your answer,

the cards are not overclocked but there are 100% stable in all stress test,temps are all fine, max 65 degrees.

running pss stieve isn't a problem as i can run it for a whole continuous year without any issues. . My problem is just when a stop the pss stieve computing that my pc freezes.

other primegrid subprojects gpu are fine and are not making any freeze.

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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,042,688)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,909)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,303,526)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,202,873)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,900,040)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,728)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,851,996)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,199,189)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,100,018)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,405,027)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,124,820)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,854,896)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (306,761,000)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (180,002,446)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (133,177,544)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,000,001)
Message 85871 - Posted: 2 Jun 2015 | 12:26:50 UTC

Try setting BOINC Manager to No New Tasks to let the current cache of PPS sieve go dry then see if that rev down is more graceful to your system. Have you got latest graphics drivers? Have you tried underclocking?

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,692)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,876)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,979)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,018)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,441)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,475)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,939)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,783)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,115)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,459)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,757)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,908,135)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,450,104)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (130,966)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,525)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,015)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (246,369)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,594)
Message 85923 - Posted: 6 Jun 2015 | 16:48:11 UTC - in response to Message 85862.

"Samy_Bourghol" wrote:
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All my sof and drivers are up to date, I'm using win8.1 64bit and sli gtx970...

Please disable SLI and try again.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,909)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,013,953)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,815,590)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,314)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,130,950)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,044)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (275,005)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,933,364)
Message 85938 - Posted: 7 Jun 2015 | 9:01:57 UTC - in response to Message 85923.

hi,

Setting boinc to no new task didnt fix it but disabling sli seems to have fix the problem!

but why pss sieve was making such a mess and not opencl subproject?

thank you guys for your help

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,893,273)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,440,687)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,738,876)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,292,626)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,648,951)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,653,927)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,558,341)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,748,705)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,335,713)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,602,818)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,282,622)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (740,566)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (59,788,598)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,143,068)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (524,673,938)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,130,821)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,074,710)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (43,842,888)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (224,648,943)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (62,378,755)
Message 85973 - Posted: 9 Jun 2015 | 2:42:49 UTC

Interesting. It would be good to know what "combination subset" of (SLI vs. not) / OS ver. / card model / driver ver. is responsible for this problem. (There are of course a bazillion other factors, but those seem the most obvious).

For the record I have a Linux box (Ubuntu up to date) with 2 GTX570 set up SLI, and PPS Sieve works fine (as does Genefer).

--Gary

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,909)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,013,953)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,815,590)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,314)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (116,130,950)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,044)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (275,005)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,933,364)
Message 86009 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015 | 7:11:14 UTC - in response to Message 85973.

hi,

genefer works fine with sli setup but not pss, I would like to make a reminder about my previous problem and that is the pc freezes only when I cancel or pause the primegrid computing when using the pss sieve.

I agree with you that there are many factors that making the problem happen and which are deficult to diagnose.

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Message 86013 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015 | 11:00:04 UTC

I expected someone else to say it, but the current user "owns" the GPU. That's why you have to configure BOINC to run as the current user rather than its own username if you want to run GPU computing. If you're running GPU stuff and log out of that username, of course it's going to break the GPU app. The GPU will be owned by whatever username you switch to. What I find surprising is that genefer keeps running, not that tpsieve (PPS Sieve) freezes.

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Message 86023 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015 | 14:35:08 UTC - in response to Message 86013.

What I find surprising is that genefer keeps running, not that tpsieve (PPS Sieve) freezes.


It might have something to do with PPS-Sieve being CUDA and the Genefer app (at least the one he's running) being OCL. A simple test of that theory would be to run one of the GFN-WR tasks with CUDA rather than "oclCUDA". If GeneferOCL runs but GeneferCUDA does not, then that's the difference. If GeneferCUDA doesn't run, then I don't know.
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