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OverClocking GPU While Running Genefer
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If you are running Genefer or Genefer-WR and want to try overclocking, or are already OCing and getting errors, here are some tips. As a general rule the GPU memory needs to be DOWNclocked 10-15% and the temperature needs to be at reasonable number. Overheating will dramatically increase the chances of errors. Setting GPU fans manually to MAX while running GFN should help some (or a lot). Having a GPU with 2 or more fans run cooler than reference single blower ones. Heat is the enemy in electronics.
Now if you really want to run GFN and overclock with a much lower chance of errors you need to lower you GPU memory even further as you increase the GPUs main core clocks. Mid powered GPUs do run cooler than high end GPUs in general but when OCing the high end GPUs will increase temperature faster than mid powered GPUs when OCing the same percentage amount.
Examples for nVidia Fermis (400 & 500 series) that worked for me:
GPU--------------core clock/shaders---memory---voltage
Stock GTX460-----675/1350-----------1800-------0.975
OCed GTX460-----750/1500-----------1700-------1.000
OCed GTX460-----850/1700-----------1500-------1.012
Stock GTX470-----607/1215-----------1674-------1.012
OCed GTX470-----662/1325-----------1550-------1.025
OCed GTX470-----738/1475-----------1400-------1.037
Stock GTX560ti---822/1645------------2004-------1.012
OCed GTX560ti---900/1800------------1700-------1.025
OCed GTX560ti---937/1875------------1600-------1.037
Stock GTX570-----732/1464------------1900-------0.988
OCed GTX570-----800/1600------------1700-------1.000
OCed GTX570-----850/1700------------1600-------1.012
Stock GTX580-----772/1544------------2004-------1.013
OCed GTX580-----825/1650------------1700-------1.025
OCed GTX580-----850/1700------------1600-------1.037
I don't have any Kepler or Maxwell GPUs. But due to much lower Double Precision than Fermis (except the Titans) they should run cooler to start with but the same rules should apply.
Examples for AMD Radeons that worked for me:
GPU--------------core clock---memory---voltage
Stock HD5830---800---------1000
OCed HD5830---900---------750
Stock HD7950---925---------1250-------1250mV
OCed HD7950---1000-------1200-------1250mV
OCed HD7950---1035-------1150-------1250mV
Don't know why stock voltage is higher than the 7970. Bought this used so previous owner may have messed with the GPU BIOS. This is the boost edition yet the base clock is at the boost clock. further evidence that the BIOS has been changed.
Stock HD7970---955---------1375-------1225mV (non GHZ edition)
OCed HD7970---1050-------1300-------1250mV
OCed HD7970---1125-------1250-------1265mV
It seems that the memory on the Tahiti GPUs doesn't need to be lowered as much as the other GPUs I've tested. So the the AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series has the best DP along with the Titans currently with AMDs R9 290X (Hawaii) not far behind. The soon to be released 390X may (should) be a powerful GPU with good DP (Fingers crossed).
Due to inconsistent manufacturing quality of GPU chips not everyone may achieve success in overclocking, but you won't know until you try.
Would users running GFN post their settings that run successfully & consistently for more than 3-4 times to help others who want to try to OC their GPUs. You can also post about failures.
PS: Mike or other moderator can you sticky this post so it stays visible near the top over time. Remove this PS afterwards
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GTX580 GOOD edition. Base 772 - factory oc 783, mem 2010.
Upped 5% to 822, likewise memory to 2111.
1 card's unit failed after 14 hours, the other card continues. Temps early 80s, 80% constant fan speed.
As per advice I may now try 5% 822MHz but now standard RAM speed. | |
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Lowering memory below stock is the key. It only slows computation very slightly. Overclocking the core increases computation speed significantly more than the slight decrease with memory downclocked. You should lower memory 2-3 times the percentage of the increase in core clocks. So don't try and be brave and run memory at stock speed. Even if you run at stock core speed you should lower memory at least 5-10% below stock. This is the key to avoiding errors.
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Largest Primes to Date:
As Double Checker: SR5 109208*5^1816285+1 Dgts-1,269,534
As Initial Finder: SR5 243944*5^1258576-1 Dgts-879,713
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Dave  Send message
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Sounds like a plan for the next phase of benchmarking. | |
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Dave  Send message
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Exit 0 status no finish file: a mild overclock yes but 1 card is repeatedly fine while the other gives that error after a few hours. Mem clock standard, fans 80%+, 80C - any ideas why they would fail? Card does everything else fine. | |
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Exit 0 status no finish file: a mild overclock yes but 1 card is repeatedly fine while the other gives that error after a few hours. Mem clock standard, fans 80%+, 80C - any ideas why they would fail? Card does everything else fine.
If you're referring to the GFN-WR tasks on your 580 which got "error while computing", they all ran into "Maxerr exceeded". Did you try downclocking the GPU memory as suggested by NeoMetal* above? 80C seems on the high side to me, but every card is different.
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Exit 0 status no finish file: a mild overclock yes but 1 card is repeatedly fine while the other gives that error after a few hours. Mem clock standard, fans 80%+, 80C - any ideas why they would fail? Card does everything else fine.
If you're referring to the GFN-WR tasks on your 580 which got "error while computing", they all ran into "Maxerr exceeded". Did you try downclocking the GPU memory as suggested by NeoMetal* above? 80C seems on the high side to me, but every card is different.
--Gary
I didn't downclock the mem - trying to squeeze them into <96hrs. | |
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80C is probably too hot on the Fermi cores. I ran into trouble with the GFN short and some PRPnet GFN work when a couple of my Fermi based cards ran that hot. Get it down to the mid-70s and you will likely be okay.
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I have tested my ASUS DCII 3slot 7970 and 2 280x, well they are the same cards really, and i will post my conclusions here.
The 7970 is a 1ghz edition with a vddc of 1,17v. memory factory clock is 1450mhz.
280x gpu runs at 1ghz with a vddc of 1,14v. memory factory clock is 1500mhz.
280x matrix gpu runs at 1ghz with a vddc of 1,256v. memory factory clock is 1500mhz.
I know from MW that all the gpus need to have their speeds running in sync, othervise wu-s will begin to error out randomly.
and so mu memory speeds run in tandem @1500mhz for all cards.
My gpu speeds are clocked to 1100mhz by the slowest card, that is the 7970 1ghz edition that cant achieve a higher oc due to a locked voltage regulator.
rest of the cards can all go higher but i ran them in sync.
So, when running genefer shorts (about 5 hours per wu), i had no stability problems at all, and when i ran the genefer world record, one of the wu-s failed.
I ran the record wu-s on 2 cards only. So one card is clocked to stable and well tested 1,1ghz, which is the max for that 7970, and the other has a some sort of adjusting voltage regulatory system. It adjust the voltage of the card by load and amps pulled, while loaded with genefer the gpu load was high but it was pulling not many amps and the vddc voltage was a bit lower, so both of the cards had a likely reason to fail the record wu. I decided to lower the gpu oc to 1050mhz on both cards and tested them with world record wu-s and it was a pass.
I didn't touch the memory speeds during testing, they were running at the same speeds all the way. My cards are well cooled obviously, running between 60-70c* with fans between 30-40%. For stable voltage i bought an enermax platimax 1350w platinum psu, and since my old 900w lineinteractive ups was coplaining about that, i found me an old 1,6kwt industrial APC ups, lineinteractive afcourse, that weighs about 60 kg and demands 4batterys.
I bought new batterys for it. So everything is rocksolid and stable, thats the only way to truly do long term stability testing, or crunching for that matter. Not braging, just saying. I dont have access to a stable electricity network, the old network in my region is all that is available.
So if some of you less experienced testers have irregural anomalys, and have no lineinteractive ups, i'd say that's the reason. A good psu is a mandatory anyhow. | |
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Here are some of my results with a Gtx 970. It was the Gigabyte Windforce OC model (not the G1).
1: I bought that card for a gaming rig. So naturally, I started there.
- +190/+0/+0 for the Core/Mem/Voltages was stable (didn't try OCing Mem). Days of benchmarking, gaming, stress testing, never a failure.
- Allowing for overvoltage, I managed to get +240/+0/+87.5. Once again, I didn't try mem. OCs.
2:HOWEVER, due to the P2 crap that plagues the 9xx series on distributed computing tasks, I didn't need much time to have crashes on the thing. I tried Folding Home, GPUgrid, POEM Home, and Primerid. While some were more resilient to OC than others, the final setting that was good for every single one of them was +164/"+500".
-I say "+500" because, in that power state, the mem. runs at 3001 (6002 effective), instead of the 3505 (7010 effective) mhz that it is supposed to. Thus, I "overclocked" the RAM to match the correct speeds.
-And yes, +164. +165 caused failures once every 2~3 weeks; a rare cenario, but a crash regardless. With +164, the thing's been going for months without problems. And while the overvoltage does allow the boost clock to go higher (so the final clocks go up too), it won't actually allow me to OC any higher, due to - again - the P2 driver bug.
As a final note, I didn't try to see if I can OC any higher with the particular instances of GFN-Short and GFN-WR. As said, given that I found a "be all, end all" stable OC, and that I switch between projects a lot, I decided to just stick with that. I also won't be OCing the RAM; it just won't let me (screw you P2!).
But I may try lowering mem. speeds to try OC the core higher. Do you guys think it will be worth it? | |
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Experimenting with dowclocking the memory is a good idea, trying to oc the gpu core more that way.
But oc-ing with ov and running 24\7 is not a good idea imo.
I never do that with my hardware, i only oc or occasionally downclock.
When temp was an issue with some of my gpus that had poor cooling in the past, i did downclock. However i avoid cards with poor cooling, so i have not had the need to downclock for many years. | |
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RafaelVolunteer tester
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Experimenting with dowclocking the memory is a good idea, trying to oc the gpu core more that way.
But oc-ing with ov and running 24\7 is not a good idea imo.
I never do that with my hardware, i only oc or occasionally downclock.
When temp was an issue with some of my gpus that had poor cooling in the past, i did downclock. However i avoid cards with poor cooling, so i have not had the need to downclock for many years.
Well, OV really isn't that high. As said, the P2 state limits things. A LOT. Even though I said +87.5, +37.5 ends up with the exact same results. Also, the card just runs at 1243.5 mv, regardless. It's more than the OV I set, but setting higher OVs won't boost it further anyway.
Temps also aren't a problem. I'm currently at 69 ºC with 60% fan speeds (it's quite cold here), to keep noise down. But when I'm not right by my PC, I just slam the fans and get to even lower temps. | |
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Experimenting with dowclocking the memory is a good idea, trying to oc the gpu core more that way.
But oc-ing with ov and running 24\7 is not a good idea imo.
I never do that with my hardware, i only oc or occasionally downclock.
When temp was an issue with some of my gpus that had poor cooling in the past, i did downclock. However i avoid cards with poor cooling, so i have not had the need to downclock for many years.
Well, OV really isn't that high. As said, the P2 state limits things. A LOT. Even though I said +87.5, +37.5 ends up with the exact same results. Also, the card just runs at 1243.5 mv, regardless. It's more than the OV I set, but setting higher OVs won't boost it further anyway.
Temps also aren't a problem. I'm currently at 69 ºC with 60% fan speeds (it's quite cold here), to keep noise down. But when I'm not right by my PC, I just slam the fans and get to even lower temps.
Ok then, it looks like you have things under control. | |
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