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Message 81594 - Posted: 23 Dec 2014 | 21:16:46 UTC
Last modified: 23 Dec 2014 | 22:14:31 UTC

Year of the sheep

A new year, a new series of challenges! As we're not just a bunch of sheep here at PrimeGrid we'll be trying a new concept for the first challenge of this series. From January 3rd 2015, 18:00 UTC until January 11th 2015, 18:00 we will be hosting the first Multi Project Challenge!

What is a Multi Project Challenge?
In this challenge units from multiple subprojects will count for your score on the leaderboard. In this case the included subprojects are: Seventeen-or-Bust (LLR), Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) and Extended Sierpinski Problem (LLR). Application builds are available for Linux, MacIntel, and Windows 32 and 64 bit.

NOTE: In your PrimeGrid preferences section, set "Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work" to no to guarantee that no other work will be sent.


ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer. If your computer is highly overclocked, please consider "stress testing" it before the challenge. :)

The length of the WU's will vary wildly, based on your system and the subproject you select.
For the Extended Sierpinski Problem tasks will take about 6-8 hours on the fasted systems and 24+ hours on the slower systems.
For the Prime Sierpinski Problem wu's will take 45-55 hours on fast/newer computers and 150+ hours on slower/older computers.
For Seventeen-or-Bust, the fastest computers will take about 4 days, where as older/slower computers won't be able to finish a single set of WU's during the challenge.

Restricted airflow is one of the primary reasons for overheating. Take the time to monitor the fans and review the dust buildup. Please, please, please make sure your machines are up to the task.


Why a Multi Project Challenge?
There's two reasons to take this approach. For the full discussion see this thread, the short version is: this way also the subprojects with long work units can get a challenge and it's an elegant way to solve the "how to give a reasonable bonus"-problem we encountered last year with the dual GFN challenge.

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NOTE: The countdown clock on the front page uses the host computer time. Therefore, if your computer time is off, so will the countdown clock. For precise timing, use the UTC Time in the data section to the left of the countdown clock.

Scoring information
Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER January 3 2015 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE January 11 2015 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit.

In this challenge we will be using the same scoring algorithm as we use to determine BOINC credits, including bonuses!. Because the score bonuses are included in the challenge score, it is advantageous to run the longer tasks if you can manage to finish them within the 8 day challenge window. This will land you a higher position in the leaderboard and therefor a higher score on the overal leaderboard.

At the Conclusion of the Challenge
We would prefer users "moving on" to finish those tasks they have downloaded, if not then please ABORT the WU's instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

ABORTING WU's allows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)

About the projects
The common denominator of these projects is the Sierpinski Problem.

Waclaw Franciszek Sierpinski (14 March 1882 - 21 October 1969), a Polish mathematician, was known for outstanding contributions to set theory, number theory, theory of functions and topology. It is in number theory where we find the Sierpinski problem.

Basically, the Sierpinski problem is "What is the smallest Sierpinski number" and the prime Sierpinski problem is "What is the smallest 'prime' Sierpinski number?"

First we look at Proth numbers (named after the French mathematician François Proth). A Proth number is a number of the form k*2^n+1 where k is odd, n is a positive integer, and 2^n>k.

A Sierpinski number is an odd k such that the Proth number k*2^n+1 is not prime for all n. For example, 3 is not a Sierpinski number because n=2 produces a prime number (3*2^2+1=13). In 1962, John Selfridge proved that 78,557 is a Sierpinski number...meaning he showed that for all n, 78557*2^n+1 was not prime.

Most number theorists believe that 78,557 is the smallest Sierpinski number, but it hasn't yet been proven. In order to prove it, it has to be shown that every single k less than 78,557 is not a Sierpinski number, and to do that, some n must be found that makes k*2^n+1 prime.

The smallest proven 'prime' Sierpinski number is 271,129. In order to prove it, it has to be shown that every single 'prime' k less than 271,129 is not a Sierpinski number, and to do that, some n must be found that makes k*2^n+1 prime.

Seventeen or Bust is working on the Sierpinski problem and the Prime Sierpinski Project is working on the 'prime' Sierpinski problem. The following k's remain for each project:

Sierpinski problem 'prime' Sierpinski problem 10223 10223* 21181 22699* 22699 67607* 24737 79309 55459 79817 67607 152267 156511 168451 222113 225931 237019 '*being tested by Seventeen or Bust

Additional Information

For more information about Sierpinski, Sierpinski number, and the Sierpinsk problem, please see these resources:


What is LLR?

The Lucas-Lehmer-Riesel (LLR) test is a primality test for numbers of the form N = k*2^n − 1, with 2^n > k. Also, LLR is a program developed by Jean Penné that can run the LLR-tests. It includes the Proth test to perform +1 tests and PRP to test non base 2 numbers. See also:


(Edouard Lucas: 1842-1891, Derrick H. Lehmer: 1905-1991, Hans Riesel: born 1929).
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Message 81600 - Posted: 23 Dec 2014 | 23:19:47 UTC

We note that an astronomical new moon will occur at 2015, February 19, 07:47, Chinese time (that is February 18, 23:47, UTC). Therefore the New Year, the start of year of the Goat (or Sheep), is February 19. /JeppeSN

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Message 81607 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 7:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 81600.

We note that an astronomical new moon will occur at 2015, February 19, 07:47, Chinese time (that is February 18, 23:47, UTC). Therefore the New Year, the start of year of the Goat (or Sheep), is February 19. /JeppeSN

Good point, and I'm sure that was noted by the Admins when laying out the challenge schedule. But, I believe there were two overriding factors (pun intended). First, since SoB tasks are so long, there's incentive to start as early as possible in the year (allowing for recovery time from New Year's Eve hangovers) just so the cleanup finishes as early as possible. Second, February (all month) is traditionally the "Tour de Primes", which would be a conflict.

Sadly my computers probably aren't up to the task of running two full loads of SoB in eight days. So I'll settle for one load, and fill in the rest with ESP and (maybe) PSP. Compounding issues, I won't be home for the first day and a half, so I'll have to just leave boxes up get a "running start" using ESP.

All this should be an interesting test of everyone's BOINC management skills. Looking forward to it, and good luck.

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Message 81614 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 9:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 81607.

Sadly my computers probably aren't up to the task of running two full loads of SoB in eight days. So I'll settle for one load, and fill in the rest with ESP and (maybe) PSP. Compounding issues, I won't be home for the first day and a half, so I'll have to just leave boxes up get a "running start" using ESP.--Gary

Gary,
So run something like PPSE and then remotely log into PG and switch over. That's how you can get work somewhere near the start. If you have the time, you could actually log in an hour early, disable the CPU, make the required changes, then at or after the start time just switch back on the CPU.

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Message 81637 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 15:45:45 UTC

Thanks that's just given me an idea: I know I can only do 1 full batch of SoBs, so I can do the PSPs I intended to start soon as part of th challenge. Should just in theory be able to fit them in, but it could be very tight + hi-risk!

So much for a chance to take part in a gaming session with some friends on the 10th.

:D.

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Message 81644 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 16:29:02 UTC

With both SoB and PSP, there is a possibility that our existing supply of tasks may be exhausted. I don't think we'll actually crunch that many, but during challenges a lot of tasks get downloaded but not crunched. It's possible enough tasks will be downloaded to consume the existing pool of untested candidates.

We're in the process of preparing additional tasks -- even if they're not needed during the challenge, it's likely they'll be needed later in the year. For SoB, the current tasks are in the n=27M range. The next batch of test are n=31M. The new tasks take about 30% longer to crunch than the existing tasks.

The range for the next batch of PSP tasks is still being determined.

ESP is not affected. Unlike SoB and PSP, ESP is purely a PrimeGrid project which doesn't need to be coordinated with external projects. We're the only ones crunching ESP and we'll keep crunching upwards without gaps.
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Message 81646 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 16:48:06 UTC

Trying to upload For Seventeen-or-Bust, the fastest computers will take about 4 days, where as older/slower computers won't be able to finish a single set of WU's during the challenge. With no luck, to test my computer's speed.

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Merry Christmas every one here. Peace on Earth and space too!

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Message 81654 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 18:54:36 UTC - in response to Message 81646.

Looks like I got finally 12 SOB wu's. Now we shall see how long it will take to finish them. The forecast seems to be for 84 hours each.

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Message 81655 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 19:02:45 UTC - in response to Message 81654.

Looks like I got finally 12 SOB wu's. Now we shall see how long it will take to finish them. The forecast seems to be for 84 hours each.


That's on your i7-4960X, right?

If you're running 6 tasks (i.e., no hyperthreading) 86 hours is probably a little bit optimistic, but likely not too far off. I can do close to that with a Haswell; your CPU doesn't have FMA but it does use quad channel memory and has larger cache than mine does.

If you're running 12 tasks at once, it will likely take about double that.
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Message 81656 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 19:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 81655.

It is trying to run 12 and thus PPS Sieve wu's are taking over 9 minutes each and they used to be about 8 minutes a few seconds each. Perhaps I should abort 6 of the SOB's?

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Message 81657 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 19:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 81656.

After 32 minutes of running 12 SOB's if the early average holds up it would take 283 hours each. Too long for the contest.

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Message 81659 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 19:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 81656.

It is trying to run 12 and thus PPS Sieve wu's are taking over 9 minutes each and they used to be about 8 minutes a few seconds each. Perhaps I should abort 6 of the SOB's?


Don't abort them -- just go into the BOINC preferences screen and set the % of processors to use to 50%. Then only 6 tasks will run at once.

If you can't finish two sets running 6 at a time before the challenge starts, then you should abort the second set.

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Message 81660 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 20:02:41 UTC - in response to Message 81657.

After 32 minutes of running 12 SOB's if the early average holds up it would take 283 hours each. Too long for the contest.


It probably will, which means about 140 hrs for 6 when you set BOINC to use 50% of the cores.

You could run one set of SoB during the challenge and then finish off the challenge with PSP, ESP, or both.

Very few computers will be able to complete 2 sets of SoB tasks in 8 days, and I suspect all of them will be Haswell with either quad channel memory or overclocked memory. That's assuming the current n=27M tasks. I don't think any existing computer can do n=31M in 4 days.
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Message 81661 - Posted: 24 Dec 2014 | 20:10:58 UTC

SOB has now been changed to a 45 day deadline, which affects new workunits generated from this point on. There will still be some 60 day deadlines sent out over the next few days as the already generated tasks are sent out, and any additional tasks sent out for older units will also have the older 60 day deadline.

Even if we load the larger n=31M SOB tasks before the challenge ends, they'll also have a 45 day deadline towards the goal of having a shorter cleanup. Sometime after the challenge ends we will consider whether 45 or 60 days is more appropriate for the larger tasks on a permanent basis.
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So, we're hunting prime sheep next year? I found one for you:



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Message 81716 - Posted: 26 Dec 2014 | 12:37:36 UTC

Seems to be that running 6 SOB tasks at once after 41:29 hours I am at 26.155% done. This means my average expected finish will be taking 158 hours. Will finish in time for the Challenge start off.

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Message 81740 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014 | 12:22:06 UTC - in response to Message 81716.

Seems to be that running 6 SOB tasks at once after 41:29 hours I am at 26.155% done. This means my average expected finish will be taking 158 hours. Will finish in time for the Challenge start off.



Most likely not a good idea to run 6 SOB tasks at once... Due to the huge exponent for those tasks, you are likely creating memory bandwidth bottleneck.

I will be crunching 1 SOB and 2 ESP candidates at one time on my i5... leaving a core open.

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Message 81743 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014 | 13:39:01 UTC - in response to Message 81740.

Seems to be that running 6 SOB tasks at once after 41:29 hours I am at 26.155% done. This means my average expected finish will be taking 158 hours. Will finish in time for the Challenge start off.



Most likely not a good idea to run 6 SOB tasks at once... Due to the huge exponent for those tasks, you are likely creating memory bandwidth bottleneck.

I will be crunching 1 SOB and 2 ESP candidates at one time on my i5... leaving a core open.

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It's hard to say if that will be true on any given CPU without trying it. It depends on lots of factors. This CPU has more cache than an i5. It's got quad channel rather than dual channel memory. Finally, it's Ivy Bridge rather than Haswell, so its ALU isn't going to put the same demands on the memory as does Haswell.
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Message 81745 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014 | 14:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 81740.

It sure is running a lot longer than I thought originally. But as of this morning and almost 3 days after the start I have reached over 44% done, it is still predicting that it will get done on about 30 hours, but I think on my average speed so far, it will be 96 hours to go.

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Message 81750 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014 | 19:58:51 UTC - in response to Message 81745.
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It sure is running a lot longer than I thought originally. But as of this morning and almost 3 days after the start I have reached over 44% done, it is still predicting that it will get done on about 30 hours, but I think on my average speed so far, it will be 96 hours to go.

Always go with extrapolating the current percentage done vs. time spent; just let it run a few % to get a good estimate. Ignore the BOINC estimate to complete shown in the GUI manager.

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Message 81751 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014 | 20:06:01 UTC - in response to Message 81745.

It sure is running a lot longer than I thought originally. But as of this morning and almost 3 days after the start I have reached over 44% done, it is still predicting that it will get done on about 30 hours, but I think on my average speed so far, it will be 96 hours to go.

Keep an eye on it and when it hits 50% elapse time just double that and that will be very close to the total time it will take
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Message 81771 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 12:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 81751.

Thank you Neo. Looks like it is crunching about 16-17% a day, with some cpu's running slightly faster than others. I wonder if before the start of the challenge I also have to empty my PPS Sieve queue, although that will not be part of the challenge this time?

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Message 81772 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 13:13:35 UTC - in response to Message 81771.

Thank you Neo. Looks like it is crunching about 16-17% a day, with some cpu's running slightly faster than others. I wonder if before the start of the challenge I also have to empty my PPS Sieve queue, although that will not be part of the challenge this time?


Assuming it's running on the GPU, you can leave it running. However, it does use some CPU, so it is slowing down whatever is running on the CPU. It's your choice to keep running the GPU or not.


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Message 81778 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 16:23:35 UTC

What to expect regarding task lengths.

My faster computer is one of the faster machines right now, although definitely not the fastest. It's an i5 Haswell running at 3.6 GHz with dual channel overclocked 2400 MHz DDR3 memory. I'm running Windows and have a fair amount of junk running in the background, and I also use this as my normal use computer, so it's not crunching at 100%.

The challenge runs for 192 hours.

The current SoB tasks take about 105 hours on this computer. I'll be able to get one set of four done during the challenge.

The current PSP tasks take about 40.5 hours. After the SoB tasks I expect to be able to complete 2 sets of PSP tasks.

ESP takes about 6.25 hours. I might, maybe, if I'm lucky, be able to squeeze in one set of ESP tasks before the challenge ends.

My slow computer will be able to crunch one ESP task during the entire challenge.

Expect a moderate increase in run times if you have 1600 or 1333 MHz DDR3. Also expect a moderate increase if you have AVX rather than FMA3. Expect a substantial increase without AVX (which includes all AMD processors.)

Quad channel memory will improve performance, and I suspect DDR4 will improve performance.

NOTE: It's possible, although not certain, that both SoB and PSP may move to a larger range during the challenge. If so, SoB's tasks will increase in duration by about a third. It's not yet been determined what will happen with PSP.
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Message 81779 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 17:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 81772.

Thank you for the update Michael, as well as the GPU question.

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Message 81781 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 17:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 81778.

I tried to run a few wu's on my middle faster computer and the ESP-Sieve 44 took about 45 minutes each, per cpu.

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Message 81782 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 17:30:38 UTC - in response to Message 81781.
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I tried to run a few wu's on my middle faster computer and the ESP-Sieve 44 took about 45 minutes each, per cpu.

ESP-Sieve is NOT part of the challenge. Only ESP (LLR) tasks (in addition to SoB and PSP LLR) will count for challenge scoring (though you would otherwise get normal BOINC credit)

--Gary

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Message 81784 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 18:02:31 UTC - in response to Message 81782.

Thanks Gary, I came to that conclusion also as I read Michael, post a few minutes ago. I will be sure to download the right wu's for the Challenge.

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Message 81785 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 18:05:36 UTC

Michael (or any of the mods!), will you be able to warn us when the SoB WUs are going to change to the n=31m batch? I just mean by a post on here, of course.

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Message 81786 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 19:09:03 UTC - in response to Message 81785.

Michael (or any of the mods!), will you be able to warn us when the SoB WUs are going to change to the n=31m batch? I just mean by a post on here, of course.


Subproject status of SoB ranges should give pretty good up-to-date idea of where we are at the moment.
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Message 81789 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 21:03:20 UTC

Since there are three subprojects listed for the next challenge, how can I designate the one I would like to work on, since my slower computer may not be able to finish in time two of the longer projects?

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Message 81790 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 21:44:34 UTC - in response to Message 81789.

Since there are three subprojects listed for the next challenge, how can I designate the one I would like to work on, since my slower computer may not be able to finish in time two of the longer projects?


Use different venues for each computer, and select a different project to run on each venue.
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Message 81791 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 21:46:43 UTC - in response to Message 81785.

Michael (or any of the mods!), will you be able to warn us when the SoB WUs are going to change to the n=31m batch? I just mean by a post on here, of course.


We will try. It's conceivable that a surge in task downloads may cause the transition to happen when we're not expecting it, but we'll do the best we can.

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Message 81794 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 23:09:36 UTC - in response to Message 81790.

Or perhaps run the shortest of the three on my three computers?

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Message 81795 - Posted: 28 Dec 2014 | 23:39:03 UTC - in response to Message 81794.

Miklos,
From the BOINC GUI manager, you can assign different "venues" to your different computers, allowing them to run different subprojects. From BOINC, hit the "Your Computers" button. That will open a web browser page with a row for each computer you have. Toward the left side of each row, there will be a "Details" link to click on. Click it, and the next page, near the bottom, will have a "Location" menu, having choices for "default" ("---") home, work, school, or the various planets. Pick one for each computer, and hit "Update" next to the menu. You can make each computer the same or different.

Then, back on the normal subproject selection page, you can select different (or the same!) subprojects for "home", "work", "school", et cetera, as you see fit.

For this challenge I'll be running SoB on my fast boxes, then maybe PSP. My slower boxes I'll have on ESP the whole time.

Good luck!
--Gary

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Message 81798 - Posted: 29 Dec 2014 | 0:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 81791.

Michael (or any of the mods!), will you be able to warn us when the SoB WUs are going to change to the n=31m batch? I just mean by a post on here, of course.


We will try. It's conceivable that a surge in task downloads may cause the transition to happen when we're not expecting it, but we'll do the best we can.


That's all I was hoping for, cheers!

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Message 81821 - Posted: 29 Dec 2014 | 17:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 81795.

Thank you Gary. I am doing a stress test on all three computers with the ESP LLR.(as soon as my fastest one finishes with the 6 SOB's probably in 36 hours or so.)

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Message 81860 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 12:50:47 UTC

Thank you Michael for suggesting a "stress test" on my computers before the challenge started. I sure found out that mine are not the faster ones around. Although the GPU cards are still fast( much slowed down due to the tasks running on the cpu's). Also as my SOB reached 89% done it is running slower with each heart beat. The .025 additional done is taking longer each time.

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Message 81874 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 21:02:53 UTC
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Just a thought - where will a prime found in the n=31m range of SoB rank in the top 10? Obviously I'm aware that it will change over time, but just say the first candidate (or whatever example is easy for you to use) turns out to be prime.

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Message 81879 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 22:21:56 UTC

Looks like the ESP LLR takes about 9.5 hours on my fastest computer, when I do 6 at a time. I wonder if running 12 at once would take twice as long each.

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Message 81880 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 22:23:46 UTC - in response to Message 81874.

Just a thought - where will a prime found in the n=31m range of SoB rank in the top 10? Obviously I'm aware that it will change over time, but just say the first candidate (or whatever example is easy for you to use) turns out to be prime.


I asked myself the same question. It won't change a lot, at least within the n=31M range, because the primes are so rare there.

By definition, the smallest possible SoB task in the 31M range is 10223*2^31000000+1. which is 9,331,935 digits.

Also by definition, the largest possible SoB task in the 31M range is 67607*2^31999998+1, which is 9,632,965 digits long.

Both would be the 6th largest known prime, as of right now.

The current 27M SoB tasks would be the 7th largest known prime.
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Message 81881 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 22:25:07 UTC - in response to Message 81879.

Looks like the ESP LLR takes about 9.5 hours on my fastest computer, when I do 6 at a time. I wonder if running 12 at once would take twice as long each.


That's likely correct. Possibly a little more than twice as slow, maybe a little faster. But it should be very close to exactly twice as slow.
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Message 81885 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 23:26:40 UTC - in response to Message 81881.

Thank you Michael.

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Message 81889 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014 | 0:12:26 UTC

Ditto - I didn't think it would change too much, but was interested to know. Still the potential for a massive prime.

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Message 81911 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014 | 17:47:03 UTC

Finished, finally 3 SOB's and soon 3 more. The time it takes, running 6 at once is slightly above 152 hours.

Also, doing PPS LLR on my AuthenticAMD
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(8 processors) when I run 4 at once, only as opposed to 8, it will take about 20 hours each. I think this design was not one of AMD's finer moments, lol.

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Message 81927 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015 | 0:45:42 UTC

Here's some times I've done over the last few days. The 3570K @ 3.7Ghz is a recent ASUS MB (P8Z77-V LK) I got used and for some reason the CPU multiplier is missing from the BIOS even though it's a K CPU. It also will not boot with memory above 1600. It's the EXACT same ASUS moodel and BIOS as my other 2 Intel MBs. I'm still researching possible causes. There are other people with the same problem with this model as well as other MBs.
But it does let me show closer to stock times.


Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K @ 4.4Ghz (4 cores running) with 1866 memory 9-10-9-24 timings:

SoB: ~125.5 hrs
PSP: ~56 hrs
ESP: ~7.5 hrs

Intel Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.7Ghz with 1600 memory 8-8-8-24 timings:

SoB: ~145 hrs
PSP: ~59 hrs
ESP: ~8.5 hrs

Intel Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.4Ghz with 2400 memory 10-12-12-31 timings:

SoB: ~118 hrs
PSP: ~50 hrs
ESP: ~7 hrs

AMD Phenom II 970BE @ 3.7Ghz with 1333 memory 7-7-7-21 timings:

PSP: ~124 hrs
ESP: ~18.5 hrs
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Message 81935 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015 | 13:43:58 UTC - in response to Message 81644.

With both SoB and PSP, there is a possibility that our existing supply of tasks may be exhausted. I don't think we'll actually crunch that many, but during challenges a lot of tasks get downloaded but not crunched. It's possible enough tasks will be downloaded to consume the existing pool of untested candidates.

We're in the process of preparing additional tasks -- even if they're not needed during the challenge, it's likely they'll be needed later in the year. For SoB, the current tasks are in the n=27M range. The next batch of test are n=31M. The new tasks take about 30% longer to crunch than the existing tasks.

The range for the next batch of PSP tasks is still being determined.

ESP is not affected. Unlike SoB and PSP, ESP is purely a PrimeGrid project which doesn't need to be coordinated with external projects. We're the only ones crunching ESP and we'll keep crunching upwards without gaps.


This has now been resolved. PSP will be searching upwards continuously from its present position. The original PSP project's server has not sent out any work above where we're testing. There will be no sudden jump in PSP task sizes.
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594665184 416387957 29 Dec 2014 | 13:04:17 UTC 1 Jan 2015 | 0:02:47 UTC Completed, marked as invalid 98,767.78 92,065.61 0.00 Extended Sierpinski Problem v6.24
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594665184 416387957 29 Dec 2014 | 13:04:17 UTC 1 Jan 2015 | 0:02:47 UTC Completed, marked as invalid 98,767.78 92,065.61 0.00 Extended Sierpinski Problem v6.24
Too bad after so many hours.


Thanks for bringing this to my attention. We're looking into it, but it may take a while before I have any information due to the time it will take to run that test.
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Message 81951 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 13:07:18 UTC - in response to Message 81940.

594665184 416387957 29 Dec 2014 | 13:04:17 UTC 1 Jan 2015 | 0:02:47 UTC Completed, marked as invalid 98,767.78 92,065.61 0.00 Extended Sierpinski Problem v6.24
Too bad after so many hours.


It turns out that your computer didn't produce the correct result. It's some sort of hardware error. Typical causes are overclocking, bad memory, or dirty contacts on the memory sticks.

My best advice is (in order):

A) If you're overclocking, lower the clock rates to stock.

B) Remove and reseat the memory

C) Run a memory diagnostic and replace the memory if it finds anything bad.

D) Only use this computer for sieving, rather than using it for LLR or Genefer. Sieving is a lot less strenuous.



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Message 81960 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 16:57:49 UTC - in response to Message 81778.

What to expect regarding task lengths.
...

The challenge runs for 192 hours.

The current SoB tasks take about 105 hours on this computer. I'll be able to get one set of four done during the challenge.



Yes, but with a simple 'juggle' you should be able to complete 6 (or even 7!) SOB tasks with ease! - here's how...

For 6 Tasks :-
1) Download 4 tasks at start of challenge and let 'em run till they're all about halfway through.. (2-3 days)
2) Download 2 more tasks, THEN suspend 2 of the half completed tasks.
3) Let the 2 new and the 2 un-suspended tasks run for a couple of days, until the original two are nearly complete, then simply resume the suspended tasks..
All tasks should now finish within the next 2-3 days, well within the 8 day limit!

The 7-Task-Juggle is only slightly more complex - and goes like this :-

1) Same as above. (around 2 days)
2) Download 3 new tasks and suspend 3 half-done ones.
3) Let the 3 new and 1 un-suspended task run till it's nearly complete, then resume one of the 3 suspended tasks - you should now have 1 almost complete, and 6 tasks half-done. (around 4 days)
4) Wait till the running tasks are all around 3/4 done, then suspend 2 of them and resume the 2 half-done tasks. (around 5 days)
5) Run until 2 of the running tasks are nearly complete, then resume the suspended tasks(around 6 days)
You should now be left with 4 tasks that are 3/4 done, with more than a day to complete them in!

You can calculate how many tasks you should be able to juggle with the following formula...

(Max Tasks) = (Challenge hours)*(Cores)/(Time per Task)

so, in Mike's case...

Max tasks = 192 * 4 / 105
= 7.31 tasks

Clearly, 8 tasks are impossible, but 7 should be a piece of cake!

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Message 81961 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 17:20:16 UTC - in response to Message 81960.

This scheme is clearly feasible... I even thought about it myself a while back. But, I thought of a few downsides:

- With suspended tasks no other PG work will d/l. This could be a fuss if you wanted to keep using a GPU.
- I believe with LLR, when you suspend a task, you will lose some progress, as it will drop back to the last checkpoint when resumed.
- You have to be able to be at keyboard to do the suspend/resumes at the right time. Maybe not a problem for some, but for me, yeah.
- In the (unlikely) event that a prime is found, if it was one that you had suspended, you're a lot more likely to be double-checker rather than initial finder.

Just some more food for thought.

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Message 81963 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 17:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 81961.

This scheme is clearly feasible... I even thought about it myself a while back. But, I thought of a few downsides:

- With suspended tasks no other PG work will d/l. This could be a fuss if you wanted to keep using a GPU.


You can either download all your GPU tasks before you suspend anything, or you can temporarily resume the LLR tasks when you need to get more GPU work. Since you're already micro-managing the LLR tasks, what's one more step?

- I believe with LLR, when you suspend a task, you will lose some progress, as it will drop back to the last checkpoint when resumed.


Up to 10 minutes, yes, but that's a drop in the bucket and can be avoided entirely by turning on "leave tasks in memory".

- You have to be able to be at keyboard to do the suspend/resumes at the right time. Maybe not a problem for some, but for me, yeah.


Remote access? In theory, all you need is a smartphone.

- In the (unlikely) event that a prime is found, if it was one that you had suspended, you're a lot more likely to be double-checker rather than initial finder.


Speed isn't that important with SoB. If you're trying to get more than 1 set of SoB tasks done in 8 days, by definition you've got one of the fastest available computers and you're likely to return the result before your wingman. Besides, the odds of one of your 6 or 7 tasks being prime is rather small.

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Message 81967 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 18:46:27 UTC

I do this in a lot of challenges and it does work. It is a lot of micro managing. Thinking things through is the key. One minor drawback is you don't show up in the challenge scores until near the end.


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Message 81976 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 21:31:41 UTC

Besides, the odds of one of your 6 or 7 tasks being prime is rather small.

How small? What are the (8 day challenge) odds for finding a SOB/PSP/ESP prime(s) in their respective ranges?
Looking at the top 100 prime list: quite a few are first timers without any other (non-Mega) finds. I'm searching for my first prime.

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Message 81977 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015 | 21:47:29 UTC - in response to Message 81976.

Besides, the odds of one of your 6 or 7 tasks being prime is rather small.

How small? What are the (8 day challenge) odds for finding a SOB/PSP/ESP prime(s) in their respective ranges?
Looking at the top 100 prime list: quite a few are first timers without any other (non-Mega) finds. I'm searching for my first prime.


How small?

The last Seventeen or Bust k was eliminated in 2007, so it's been 7 years of crunching without finding a prime. The challenge is 8 days long.

The last PSP prime was found four and a half years ago.

The last ESP prime was found 22 months ago, but ESP was on PRPNet (rather than BOINC) for most of that time. It has, therefore, not been crunched nearly as much as has SoB or PSP, and presents our best chance of finding a prime during the challenge.

It would be really, really nice if we could eliminate a k from either SoB or PSP. It's been a really long time for both projects, and PrimeGrid has never found a prime in either.
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Message 82013 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 18:19:58 UTC

Let the Games begin!
I wonder if I should be running 6 only or 12 wu's at once. It sure is less time consuming as far as attention to details to run the 12 at once and not keep suspending a whole bunch except the 6 running. Any suggestions, please?

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Message 82014 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 18:20:44 UTC

The challenge has started! This is our first ever SoB challenge, so it will be interesting to see how many SoB tasks get done.

This is how many tasks were sent out during each minute in the first 10 minutes of the challenge:

+------+------+------+-----+-----+-----+ | d | h | m | SoB | PSP | ESP | +------+------+------+-----+-----+-----+ | 3 | 18 | 0 | 191 | 165 | 160 | | 3 | 18 | 1 | 230 | 86 | 222 | | 3 | 18 | 2 | 56 | 46 | 122 | | 3 | 18 | 3 | 48 | 54 | 423 | | 3 | 18 | 4 | 84 | 29 | 111 | | 3 | 18 | 5 | 55 | 29 | 129 | | 3 | 18 | 6 | 14 | 18 | 40 | | 3 | 18 | 7 | 44 | 21 | 208 | | 3 | 18 | 8 | 28 | 10 | 421 | | 3 | 18 | 9 | 43 | 7 | 91 | | 3 | 18 | 10 | 40 | 7 | 51 | +------+------+------+-----+-----+-----+


In a normal day, we typically process about 70 SoB tasks, 80 PSP tasks, and 600 ESP tasks.

We should start seeing the first results in about 6 hours. Those will be ESP tasks. The first PSP tasks should return in a bit less than two days, and SoB in about 4 days.
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Message 82015 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 18:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 82013.
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I wonder if I should be running 6 only or 12 wu's at once. It sure is less time consuming as far as attention to details to run the 12 at once and not keep suspending a whole bunch except the 6 running. Any suggestions, please?


Just run 6. No micro-management is needed. Just set your preference to use 50% of the CPUs and forget let it run.
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Message 82017 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 18:33:01 UTC

Damn you day light savingstime, missed the start bij half an hour! :( Lets hope it doesn't matter too much in the end :)
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Message 82018 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 18:37:18 UTC - in response to Message 82015.

Thank you Michael. I did that, I think, but looks like still 12 are running.

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Message 82020 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 18:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 82017.

I'm waiting until after 19:00 to return queue sizes back to normal in case there's another surge of daylight savings time computers. :)
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Message 82023 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:06:09 UTC - in response to Message 82015.

Based on the first hour's average, it looks like running 12(since I could not get to run 6 only it seems) it will take 16-21 hours for the 12 to get done.

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Message 82025 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 82023.

Based on the first hour's average, it looks like running 12(since I could not get to run 6 only it seems) it will take 16-21 hours for the 12 to get done.

That projected time sounds somewhat optimistic.

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Message 82026 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:19:29 UTC - in response to Message 82025.

Based on the first hour's average, it looks like running 12(since I could not get to run 6 only it seems) it will take 16-21 hours for the 12 to get done.

That projected time sounds somewhat optimistic.


I assume he's running ESP. :)

For ESP with hyperthreading turned on, that seems reasonable.

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Message 82027 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:23:37 UTC - in response to Message 82026.

Yes, only ESP LLR. But perhaps when the next set starts it will switch to running six only. I would gladly settle for these numbers for the time, though.

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Message 82029 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 82027.

Yes, only ESP LLR. But perhaps when the next set starts it will switch to running six only. I would gladly settle for these numbers for the time, though.

Oops. Sorry, guys [sheepish grin] - I assumed SoB.

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Message 82030 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:29:04 UTC - in response to Message 82029.

Yes, only ESP LLR. But perhaps when the next set starts it will switch to running six only. I would gladly settle for these numbers for the time, though.

Oops. Sorry, guys [sheepish grin] - I assumed SoB.


Running 12 at once I suspect he'll need about 250 hours or so for SOB. That won't work to well in a 192-hour challenge.
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Message 82031 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 19:33:59 UTC - in response to Message 82029.

I would love it if it were for SOB, lol.

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Message 82036 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 20:21:05 UTC

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned lately, but the longer tasks (PSP, and even more so, SoB) have credit bonus and produce more credit per hour than do ESP tasks. That also means you get more challenge points per hour.

Of course, you do actually have to be able to finish the tasks and return them before the challenge ends, which may not be possible for some slower computers with the longer tasks. So choose wisely!

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I started with four PSP tasks on my Q9400, and I was amazed to see they didn't complete 1% in 2 hours! That meant they would take over 200 hours each! I aborted two and am trying the other two opposite ESP to see if memory bandwidth is improved.

Edit: Nope, if anything memory bandwidth got worse.
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Message 82039 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 20:40:27 UTC - in response to Message 82037.

I started with four PSP tasks on my Q9400, and I was amazed to see they didn't complete 1% in 2 hours! That meant they would take over 200 hours each! I aborted two and am trying the other two opposite ESP to see if memory bandwidth is improved.


My guess is it won't help that much. Even ESP is fairly large, so it's going to be using a lot of memory bandwidth just like PSP. Current ESP candidates are over 2 million digits -- and that's the SMALL project in this challenge!

It's really, really hard to predict performance, but I'd guess you either need to leave a core idle to drop the PSP times below 192 hours, or play it safe and run just ESP.
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Message 82040 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 21:00:14 UTC

With just under three hours into the challenge, the server has sent out:

1258 SoB tasks
1420 PSP tasks
7420 ESP tasks

The first of those ESP results should be coming back in another 3 hours.
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Message 82043 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 22:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 82017.

Damn you day light savingstime, missed the start bij half an hour! :( Lets hope it doesn't matter too much in the end :)


Day light savingstime? In winter? :o:

That's a new trick! You gotta get a patent on it! Lol! :D

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Message 82044 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 22:21:19 UTC - in response to Message 82043.

Damn you day light savingstime, missed the start bij half an hour! :( Lets hope it doesn't matter too much in the end :)


Day light savingstime? In winter? :o:

That's a new trick! You gotta get a patent on it! Lol! :D


I'm sure a significant part of the southern hemisphere is on daylights saving time right now. :)
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Message 82045 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 22:22:56 UTC

Looking at the database, it looks like it's possible to run ESP in a bit over 4 hours. I'm not sure how (and it may be a recording error). We might start seeing results sooner than I expected.
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Message 82048 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 23:05:38 UTC - in response to Message 82045.

Looking at the database, it looks like it's possible to run ESP in a bit over 4 hours. I'm not sure how (and it may be a recording error). We might start seeing results sooner than I expected.


In one of my tests I ran an ESP task all by itself on a Haswell DC system and it finished in 4 hours:

http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=594961838

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Message 82049 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 23:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 82048.

30% done in over 5 hours here.

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Message 82051 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 23:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 82044.

Damn you day light savingstime, missed the start bij half an hour! :( Lets hope it doesn't matter too much in the end :)


Day light savingstime? In winter? :o:

That's a new trick! You gotta get a patent on it! Lol! :D


I'm sure a significant part of the southern hemisphere is on daylights saving time right now. :)


True. But it looks like [DPC]Charley is in the Netherlands, Europe. There they use the European Union "summer time" system (starts late March, ends late October). (They also use an "ij" that sometimes looks and feels like a "y".)

I wondered if he forgot the absence of daylight-saving time, i.e. forgot the standard time. But then he should have started too early, not too late.

/JeppeSN

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Message 82054 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015 | 23:42:24 UTC

SOB-LLR, PSP-LLR, ESP-LLR: Year of the Sheep Challenge (2015-01-03 18:00:00 to 2015-01-11 18:00:00)
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SOB-LLR, PSP-LLR, ESP-LLR: Year of the Sheep Challenge (2015-01-03 18:00:00 to 2015-01-11 18:00:00)
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Message 82058 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 0:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 82054.

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Congratulations. That is one fast computer you have.
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Message 82059 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 0:25:58 UTC - in response to Message 82058.

Congratulations. That is one fast computer you have.


Thank you. Partly overclocked Intel Core i5-4690K. Real Devil’s Canyon)))

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Message 82061 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 4:06:48 UTC - in response to Message 81791.

Michael (or any of the mods!), will you be able to warn us when the SoB WUs are going to change to the n=31m batch? I just mean by a post on here, of course.


We will try. It's conceivable that a surge in task downloads may cause the transition to happen when we're not expecting it, but we'll do the best we can.


It is unlikely that we will need the n=31M SoB tasks for the challenge.
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Message 82069 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 12:12:52 UTC

Made into the rankings after 4 done (ESP) in 17 hours.

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Message 82071 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 13:03:41 UTC - in response to Message 82069.

I think I better enjoy this high ranking since I may not see it again in this contest:
7 Miklos M. HUNGARY - HAJRA MAGYARORSZAG! HAJRA MAGYAROK! 29110.80

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,009,885)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,440,123)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,008,511)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,389,215)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,080,442)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,143,918)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,853,162)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,344,963)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,140,037)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,130,355)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,038,617)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,643,348)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,717)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,298,244)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,332,530)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,125,451)
Message 82072 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 13:25:43 UTC

Yes, I expect a lot will change in the standings once the first PSPs and SoBs will start coming in. SoB's will take another 3 days or approximately, PSP could be a bit sooner.
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Message 82080 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 18:20:16 UTC

After 1 day:

1690 SoB tasks sent out
2168 PSP tasks sent out
12161 ESP tasks sent out and 896 returned

This is a rare challenge where the task deadlines (for ESP) are shorter than the challenge duration. All of the ESP tasks sent out during the first two days of the challenge will either be returned or time out before the challenge ends.

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Message 82082 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 19:43:09 UTC

According to data from my systems after first day, it seems that standard or moderately overclocked Haswell CPUs will require about 100 hours to finish one set of SoB tasks. I.e. if they try to run second set, they will miss the deadline of the challenge by very small amount (4-8 hours). So be aware.

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Message 82084 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 20:23:20 UTC

My PSP tasks are going quite well, headed to be completed at the 45-50 hour mark. fastest task is 58.5% complete after 26 hours and 20 min into the task. The slower one is at 53.5% complete after the same time as the first one. i5-2500k @ 4.5GHz
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Message 82087 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 22:07:39 UTC

I am finding that doing ESP units the best method, by a slight margin, is to run it flat out on all cpu's at once on all three computers. The range is 17- almost 40 hours, depending on the speed of the computer, of course.

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Message 82088 - Posted: 4 Jan 2015 | 22:09:20 UTC - in response to Message 82080.

Michael, this little hitch will require paying much attention so I do not crunch units beyond expiration time and fail to get credited for the challenge.

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Message 82090 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 0:18:36 UTC - in response to Message 82061.
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It is unlikely that we will need the n=31M SoB tasks for the challenge.


Just thought I'd say cheers for letting us know, as I asked originally. I think I was a bit optimistic about running too many SoB WUs during the challenge though, due to the ~100 hour duration problem as mentioned above by stream.

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Message 82091 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 1:58:02 UTC

Got one more invalid wu, at least it was not part of the challenge:
594678892 258050 29 Dec 2014 | 13:24:43 UTC 3 Jan 2015 | 13:07:59 UTC Completed, marked as invalid 99,927.38 92,811.72 0.00 Extended Sierpinski Problem v6.24

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Message 82107 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 15:50:01 UTC

In a few days the cooler weather will get to FL and my computers love cold and run faster :)

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Message 82109 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 16:18:06 UTC

After almost 2 days...

Challenge update:

SoB: 2010 tasks sent
PSP: 2805 tasks sent, 2 tasks returned
ESP: 17288 tasks sent, 1173 tasks returned

SoB, PSP, and ESP are quite different in size, so merely looking at the number of tasks doesn't tell you which of the three is more popular. If we handicap the raw statistics by multiplying the number of tasks by the relative run-times, we get this:

SoB: 32803
PSP: 17952
ESP: 17288

Not surprisingly, SoB seems to be the project of choice, at least for those computers fast enough to complete them in 8 days.

Happy crunching, and good luck to you all!
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Message 82111 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 17:46:58 UTC

The first PSP task to be returned was crunched on an i7-4790 in 141,315 seconds (or 39:15:15).

The second PSP was crunched on an i5-2500K in 160,746 seconds (44:39:6).
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Message 82112 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 17:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 82111.



The second PSP was crunched on an i5-2500K in 160,746 seconds (44:39:6).

Oh hey, that's me. :)
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Message 82115 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 20:56:42 UTC - in response to Message 82109.

After almost 2 days...

Challenge update:

SoB: 2010 tasks sent
PSP: 2805 tasks sent, 2 tasks returned
ESP: 17288 tasks sent, 1173 tasks returned

SoB, PSP, and ESP are quite different in size, so merely looking at the number of tasks doesn't tell you which of the three is more popular. If we handicap the raw statistics by multiplying the number of tasks by the relative run-times, we get this:

SoB: 32803
PSP: 17952
ESP: 17288

Not surprisingly, SoB seems to be the project of choice, at least for those computers fast enough to complete them in 8 days.

Happy crunching, and good luck to you all!


I don't think handicapping by size is quite fair - at least not yet. Many more ESP WUs are likely to be downloaded and run, especially considering their timeout is less than 8 days.

But can you tell us about how many points we can expect from each type of WU? ESP seems to be ~2,000 - 2,500, and I'm guessing SoB will be ~50,000. But I really don't know what to expect from PSP.

I think handicapping by both size and points would make things even more interesting.
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Message 82116 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 21:00:04 UTC

Does anyone know how to change the CPU multiplier (overclock) on an i7-4790k?
My motherboard says its a supported CPU, but all the multiplier settings are locked and all the automated OC tool does is overvolt the CPU to 1.3v and run at 4.2 GHz

I can hit 4.2 GHz WITHOUT overvolting, so.. why would you do it?
It seems like its just disabling C states and things like that.

I've overclocked laptop GPUs for years but this is proving quite the pain.
I'm just letting it run PSP until I figure it out
I will lose my mind if I have to rebuild the new system again

Assuming it can be done, is 4.6GHz reasonable?
It seems like a good CPU batch. It runs fully loaded PSP at 4 GHz at 13 watts below its rated TDP so in my mind that leaves alot of room

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Message 82118 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 21:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 82116.
Last modified: 5 Jan 2015 | 21:41:26 UTC

Does anyone know how to change the CPU multiplier (overclock) on an i7-4790k?

Wave Fusion, here are the basic settings of my system on i5-4690K processor

CPU Core Ratio 47
CPU Cache Ratio Auto (39)
CPU Core Voltage Override 1.277
CPU Cache Voltage Override Auto
BCLK Frequency Auto (100)
CPU Input Voltage Auto (1,76)
CPU Strap 100
Memory Frequency 2400
DRAM Timing 10-12-12-28-313-1T

Complete stability, the temperature of the hot core 71 degrees, cooling system: modified Thermalright Silver Arrow, motherboard chipset Z87.

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Message 82119 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 22:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 82116.

Does anyone know how to change the CPU multiplier (overclock) on an i7-4790k?
My motherboard says its a supported CPU, but all the multiplier settings are locked and all the automated OC tool does is overvolt the CPU to 1.3v and run at 4.2 GHz


What is your MB?

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Message 82120 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 22:26:43 UTC - in response to Message 82119.

Does anyone know how to change the CPU multiplier (overclock) on an i7-4790k?
My motherboard says its a supported CPU, but all the multiplier settings are locked and all the automated OC tool does is overvolt the CPU to 1.3v and run at 4.2 GHz


What is your MB?


its an ASUS H97M Plus

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Message 82121 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 22:57:17 UTC - in response to Message 82120.
Last modified: 5 Jan 2015 | 23:01:12 UTC

Does anyone know how to change the CPU multiplier (overclock) on an i7-4790k?
My motherboard says its a supported CPU, but all the multiplier settings are locked and all the automated OC tool does is overvolt the CPU to 1.3v and run at 4.2 GHz


What is your MB?


its an ASUS H97M Plus


Found this link:

http://www.techpowerup.com/202196/asus-enables-overclocking-on-h97-h87-b85-and-h81-series-motherboards.html

Can you increase the "CPU ratio"?
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Message 82122 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 23:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 82120.

Does anyone know how to change the CPU multiplier (overclock) on an i7-4790k?
My motherboard says its a supported CPU, but all the multiplier settings are locked and all the automated OC tool does is overvolt the CPU to 1.3v and run at 4.2 GHz


What is your MB?


its an ASUS H97M Plus


And what is the RAM you have in there?
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Message 82123 - Posted: 5 Jan 2015 | 23:38:53 UTC - in response to Message 82115.

But can you tell us about how many points we can expect from each type of WU? ESP seems to be ~2,000 - 2,500, and I'm guessing SoB will be ~50,000. But I really don't know what to expect from PSP.[quote]

SOB: 50K
PSP: 19K
ESP: 2.5K


[quote]I think handicapping by both size and points would make things even more interesting.


Except for the long-task bonus, credit and size are the same thing in this challenge.


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Message 82129 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 0:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 82121.
Last modified: 6 Jan 2015 | 0:50:54 UTC

What is your MB?


its an ASUS H97M Plus


Found this link:

http://www.techpowerup.com/202196/asus-enables-overclocking-on-h97-h87-b85-and-h81-series-motherboards.html

Can you increase the "CPU ratio"?


I can change it from "Auto" to either "Sync all cores" or "per core"
I think its misleading.. isn't that actually the turbo boost multiplier settings?

Anyway setting it on anything but auto displays the 4 "Core ratio limit" settings but they are greyed out and cannot be selected.

The RAM is just standard 16 GB @ 1600 MHz (4 x 4 GB)

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Message 82131 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 1:27:23 UTC - in response to Message 82129.

What is your MB?


its an ASUS H97M Plus


Found this link:

http://www.techpowerup.com/202196/asus-enables-overclocking-on-h97-h87-b85-and-h81-series-motherboards.html

Can you increase the "CPU ratio"?


I can change it from "Auto" to either "Sync all cores" or "per core"
I think its misleading.. isn't that actually the turbo boost multiplier settings?

Anyway setting it on anything but auto displays the 4 "Core ratio limit" settings but they are greyed out and cannot be selected.

The RAM is just standard 16 GB @ 1600 MHz (4 x 4 GB)


What is the BIOS version?

According to the manual you should be able to set the ratio for the cores manually. Did you try typing in a number? All my Z97 hosts are rather busy with some challenge until coming Sunday noon so I cannot check in their BIOS.
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Message 82132 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 1:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 82129.

What is your MB?


its an ASUS H97M Plus


Found this link:

http://www.techpowerup.com/202196/asus-enables-overclocking-on-h97-h87-b85-and-h81-series-motherboards.html

Can you increase the "CPU ratio"?


I can change it from "Auto" to either "Sync all cores" or "per core"
I think its misleading.. isn't that actually the turbo boost multiplier settings?

Anyway setting it on anything but auto displays the 4 "Core ratio limit" settings but they are greyed out and cannot be selected.

The RAM is just standard 16 GB @ 1600 MHz (4 x 4 GB)


In any case, as has been mentioned many times already in this forum, getting faster RAM is much more beneficial for LLR than increasing the CPU speed.

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Message 82138 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 7:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 82132.

In any case, as has been mentioned many times already in this forum, getting faster RAM is much more beneficial for LLR than increasing the CPU speed.


Blast it. I think I got fleeced on the RAM now that I think about it.
Well, after the challenge I might just have to reroll on that.

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Message 82142 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 12:20:21 UTC

Big news: it looks like we've found an ESP prime! More details after we verify it, the wingman reports in, etc.

(It's unlikely to have a false positive on Proth numbers, so I'm very confident this prime is real.)


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Would the server automatically check the prime for xGFN divisors or are only PPS primes set up for that?

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Looks like the SoB scores are arriving, lol. I am slipping in the rankings. I winder why all the "hidden" computers? Security?

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Message 82147 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 12:39:36 UTC - in response to Message 82145.

I winder why all the "hidden" computers? Security?

There can be many reasons, some legit, some not so legit. Some people run projects on work computers and may or may not have permission to do so. Some are run on cloud computing. Each person has their own reason.

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Message 82150 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 12:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 82143.

Would the server automatically check the prime for xGFN divisors or are only PPS primes set up for that?


The server automatically will check all suitable numbers, which includes ESP, SoB, and PSP.

However, XGFN is slow, and the server doesn't have AVX (or at least the VM doesn't support AVX.) Although the server will do the check, on mega primes we run the XGFN on our personal computers since it can cut days off the processing time.

The test is already in progress, but it will take a while.


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Message 82151 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 12:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 82145.

Looks like the SoB scores are arriving, lol. I am slipping in the rankings. I winder why all the "hidden" computers? Security?


Not yet, but a few dozen PSP tasks have been returned, and several thousand ESP tasks. We'll probably start seeing the first SoB tasks come in about 24 hours from now.
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Message 82153 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 13:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 82142.

Big news: it looks like we've found an ESP prime! More details after we verify it, the wingman reports in, etc.

(It's unlikely to have a false positive on Proth numbers, so I'm very confident this prime is real.)



(Possible) Great news! :d:

One question, do you inform the respective wingman to quickly crunch a certain task? E.g. probably many people, including me, have a bag of tasks that not all will run simultaneously, so without informing the wingman this task may come in many days later.

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Message 82154 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 13:35:50 UTC - in response to Message 82153.

One question, do you inform the respective wingman to quickly crunch a certain task? E.g. probably many people, including me, have a bag of tasks that not all will run simultaneously, so without informing the wingman this task may come in many days later.

No, we don't. In this case the wingman is not carrying a cache (he has the same number of active tasks as he has HT cores showing). He may well finish the task before we're able to finish checking it outside of BOINC.

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Message 82158 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 14:13:29 UTC
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How big are the numbers? These are the minimum and maximum number of digits for each project that have been sent out during the challenge:

+-------+-----------+-----------+ | appid | min | max | +-------+-----------+-----------+ | ESP | 2,048,122 | 2,154,856 | | PSP | 5,189,308 | 5,262,725 | | SoB | 8,217,148 | 8,353,547 | +-------+-----------+-----------+

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Message 82165 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 18:29:25 UTC

It will be interesting to see how the leaderboards get shaken up starting tomorrow when the first SoB tasks start coming in. A single set of 4 SoB tasks is worth at least 185K points, which is currently good for 16th place on the leaderboards.

This makes for a very dynamic challenge with the different size tasks coming in at different times.

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Message 82169 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 19:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 82165.

Not to mention the possibility of WUs being invalidated. One member of my TeAm had problems running LLR on his AMD FX, and has had at least two ESPs invalidated. ESPs are tiny, but if just one or two SoBs are invalidated per team it could shake up the whole leader board!
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Message 82171 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 20:02:02 UTC - in response to Message 82169.

Not to mention the possibility of WUs being invalidated. One member of my TeAm had problems running LLR on his AMD FX, and has had at least two ESPs invalidated. ESPs are tiny, but if just one or two SoBs are invalidated per team it could shake up the whole leader board!


It could, yes, but generally speaking you don't see too many errors. At least not the kind where points get rescinded. There's lots of errors where the app can't run for some reason and errors out instantly.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone call a 2 million+ digit number "tiny" before. :)
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Message 82181 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 21:47:29 UTC

Will ANY of the Seventeen or Bust workunits started during the challenge finish during the challenge? My calculations indicate that none of those on my computers will.

My calculations also indicate that we are close to the last time any PSP workunits can start and still finish during the challenge, so it's time to disable downloading them on the slower computers but not quite that time on the fastest computers.

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Message 82182 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 22:12:14 UTC

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The SoBs on your i7 should take 6 days. I know mine will. Trying to squeeze PSPs after that though isn't going to work. You can either count them as early clean-up or abort them (the ones that haven't started of course) & get ESPs.

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Message 82183 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 22:25:37 UTC - in response to Message 82181.

Will ANY of the Seventeen or Bust workunits started during the challenge finish during the challenge? My calculations indicate that none of those on my computers will.

My calculations also indicate that we are close to the last time any PSP workunits can start and still finish during the challenge, so it's time to disable downloading them on the slower computers but not quite that time on the fastest computers.


On your Core 2 Quad this is true. But there's computers that are a lot faster, including your Core i7 -- provided you're not using hyperthreading. If you're running more than 4 BOINC tasks on the i7, the tasks are running a lot slower than they would if only 4 were running.

Most Haswell systems can *almost* do two complete SoB sets in 8 days. The newer, faster Haswells can do two complete sets.

Most Haswells can do 4 sets of PSP tasks during the challenge. I'm planning on doing two sets of PSP tasks, and I haven't started running them yet. They'll start tomorrow after the SoB tasks finish.

I know for a fact that there's computers out there that are at least 15% faster than mine. Maybe more. Except for having fast (2400 MHz) memory, there's nothing unusual about my computer.

Since Haswell's been out for over a year now, a significant percentage of computers are Haswell.

Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge are somewhat slower -- but not by a tremendous amount. They can still easily do a set of SoBs within the challenge, or several sets of PSP tasks.

All AMD CPUs, and non-AVX Intel CPUs are, of course, significantly slower.

All of this assumes that one is running with hyperthreading turned off (or BOINC set to use 50% of the CPU cores.) If you have hyperthreading turned on (e.g., in your case, running more than 4 BOINC tasks on your Sandy Bridge Core i7), the times will be doubled and completing an SoB during the challenge would be impossible without a lot of overclocking.
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Message 82184 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 23:10:04 UTC - in response to Message 82183.

Will ANY of the Seventeen or Bust workunits started during the challenge finish during the challenge? My calculations indicate that none of those on my computers will.

My calculations also indicate that we are close to the last time any PSP workunits can start and still finish during the challenge, so it's time to disable downloading them on the slower computers but not quite that time on the fastest computers.


On your Core 2 Quad this is true. But there's computers that are a lot faster, including your Core i7 -- provided you're not using hyperthreading. If you're running more than 4 BOINC tasks on the i7, the tasks are running a lot slower than they would if only 4 were running.

Most Haswell systems can *almost* do two complete SoB sets in 8 days. The newer, faster Haswells can do two complete sets.

Most Haswells can do 4 sets of PSP tasks during the challenge. I'm planning on doing two sets of PSP tasks, and I haven't started running them yet. They'll start tomorrow after the SoB tasks finish.

I know for a fact that there's computers out there that are at least 15% faster than mine. Maybe more. Except for having fast (2400 MHz) memory, there's nothing unusual about my computer.

Since Haswell's been out for over a year now, a significant percentage of computers are Haswell.

Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge are somewhat slower -- but not by a tremendous amount. They can still easily do a set of SoBs within the challenge, or several sets of PSP tasks.

All AMD CPUs, and non-AVX Intel CPUs are, of course, significantly slower.

All of this assumes that one is running with hyperthreading turned off (or BOINC set to use 50% of the CPU cores.) If you have hyperthreading turned on (e.g., in your case, running more than 4 BOINC tasks on your Sandy Bridge Core i7), the times will be doubled and completing an SoB during the challenge would be impossible without a lot of overclocking.


Hyperthreading is turned on on my computer that allows it. It looks like I'd better suspend all my SOB workunits until the end of the challenge.

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Message 82186 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015 | 23:39:07 UTC - in response to Message 82184.

Hyperthreading is turned on on my computer that allows it. It looks like I'd better suspend all my SOB workunits until the end of the challenge.


Or just set "use at most XX% of CPUs" to 50% and you should have plenty of time to finish 4 of the SoBs. I think. It depends on how much progress they've already made. It might be close.

For what it's worth, we strongly recommend that all hyperthreaded CPUs either have hyperthreading turned off in the BIOS (if possible), or run with BOINC set to use 50% of the CPUs when running either LLR or Genefer.

You're loosing performance with hyperthreading, because although you're running twice as many tasks, they're running at least twice as slow (and sometimes worse than that.) With sieving, however, hyperthreading is beneficial. It depends on what you're running.

For a challenge, however, I recommend always running with HT off since getting tasks done quickly is most important. Getting twice as many tasks done doesn't help if they don't finish during the challenge! With a quad core CPU, you're likely to get, on average, 4 more tasks done during a challenge with hyperthreading turned off than you are with hyperthreading turned on.
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Message 82189 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 0:12:22 UTC

Well.. I think I made one hell of a mistake..
Don't listen to sales people on computers. Don't buy on impulse, even if a power surge fries your stuff.

And, most importantly.. don't run PSP tasks for 5 days until 80% and then pull the plug >_>

Next time, run ESP if its not a clear keeper.

Between getting totally shafted on RAM, not being able to OC on an H97 board, not being able to have a water cooler & a disk drive at the same time, and not having a supported GPU for anything.. I'd rather not be homeless for a PC

As bad as it all sounds, it did run. After a lifetime of laptops I finally got my feet wet on a desktop. And I have notes what not to do next time.

I just REALLY wish I'd ran ESP. Or waited 1 more day for PSP. But I needed to be decisive then and not get stuck with a monster (a bad monster)

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Message 82191 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 0:27:59 UTC - in response to Message 82189.

The nice thing about desktops is that you can replace and upgrade the parts. WIth a laptop, you're stuck with what you buy. With a desktop you can replace most of the important parts.
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Message 82201 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 5:11:00 UTC

My first SoB just got done several minutes ago...
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Message 82207 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 10:46:39 UTC - in response to Message 82201.
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Hah, what is that 4790K clocked at? Did you have all 4 cores in action?

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Message 82214 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 11:55:11 UTC - in response to Message 82201.

My first SoB just got done several minutes ago...



All told, as of right now, 14 SoB tasks have been returned.

10 of the 14 were done by you! Well done!

You didn't return the first SoB, however. That honor belongs to 288larson. You were second by about 40 minutes.

Mine are still 12 hours away. You have some really fast computers!

Luck has something to do with it too. The SoB tasks have two different FFT sizes, mostly depending on k. Of the first 14 SoB tasks returned, the first 11 all have the smaller FFT size. The last three you've returned have the larger FFT. You'll see this in the credits; they're about 44K and 46K credits, depending on the FFT.

(Since I've started typing this, you've returned two more, totalling 12 for you and 16 overall.)
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Message 82215 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 12:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 82201.

My first SoB just got done several minutes ago...



As of this post,

I have 3 SoB's at 64%.... i5 (4th Gen) at stock 3.7 ghz..

I have 2400mhz ram but it's running at the motherboard defaults of 1600 mhz...

I just didn't have the time to implement the xmp/xml memory profile and ensure stability before this challenge. Kicking myself now.

Oh well, better to return super solid results than spend 6 days crunching and turn in an invalid result... "Slow and steady wins the race"... :)

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Message 82222 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 13:54:25 UTC - in response to Message 82214.

The SoB tasks have two different FFT sizes, mostly depending on k. Of the first 14 SoB tasks returned, the first 11 all have the smaller FFT size. The last three you've returned have the larger FFT. You'll see this in the credits; they're about 44K and 46K credits, depending on the FFT.

During the challenge I've returned ESP with three different FFT -- 640/720/768 -- 768 FFT really pounds my i5 cache compared to 576FFT or 640. Are all 576FFT tasks for ESP complete? In the near future - will ESP 720/768FFT become the standard size?

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Message 82224 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 14:22:24 UTC

What the badest, fastest CPU out there?

Your first guess might be the $999 i7-5960X (Haswell FMA3, 8 physical cores, 20 MB L3 cache, quad-channel DDR4). But at that price, is anyone running it? (Yes, they are.)

I looked through the database looking for the shortest CPU times for SoB tasks on various high end processors. These are not specifically challenge tasks.

Here's what I found: (Number of results / minimum CPU time in hours, rounded down)

i7-5960X: 20 / 94
i7-5930K: 0 / -
i7-5820K: 3 / 102
i7-4790K: 27 / 84
i7-4790: 8 / 131
i7-4770K: 118 / 83
i7-4771: 7 / 125
i7-4770: 95 / 86

i5-4690K: 0 /-
i5-4690: 2 / 91
i5-4670K: 25 / 84
i5-4670: 27 / 97

Some of those times are truly impressive. My own 4670K, which has 2400 MHz ram and is slightly overclocked to 3.6 GHz, is taking about 102 hours for the SoB tasks. The lowest times for the 4670K, 4770K, 4790K, and even the 4770 are all below 90 hours. Even allowing for some variability due to different fft sizes, there are some systems out there with really good performance.
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Message 82225 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 14:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 82207.

Hah, what is that 4790K clocked at? Did you have all 4 cores in action?


It is clocked at 4.4MHz with RAM at 2400MHz with timings 9-11-11-31. Yes, all four cores in action. And as Mike indicated this one had the smaller FFT size.

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,006,834)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,179,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,048,769)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,241,722)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,003,279)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,605,559)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,458,940)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,009,313)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,162,350)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,877,196)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (37,214,567)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,426,791)
Message 82226 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 14:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 82222.

The SoB tasks have two different FFT sizes, mostly depending on k. Of the first 14 SoB tasks returned, the first 11 all have the smaller FFT size. The last three you've returned have the larger FFT. You'll see this in the credits; they're about 44K and 46K credits, depending on the FFT.

During the challenge I've returned ESP with three different FFT -- 640/720/768 -- 768 FFT really pounds my i5 cache compared to 576FFT or 640. Are all 576FFT tasks for ESP complete? In the near future - will ESP 720/768FFT become the standard size?


FFT size depends on K as well as n.

For ESP, there are 1970 candidates left with the 640K FFT. That includes in-progress as well as unstarted.

In total, for the ESP 640K FFT, there are 49 candidates not yet started, 1920 that are in progress, and 22608 that are completed. "In progress", in this context, means that the work unit has been generated. The tasks for that workunit may or may not have actually been sent out yet.

So there's a bit more of those 640K FFT tasks still to be processed.
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Message 82227 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 14:37:05 UTC - in response to Message 82142.

Big news: it looks like we've found an ESP prime! More details after we verify it, the wingman reports in, etc.



No news on this subject yet?
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Message 82230 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 15:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 82227.

Big news: it looks like we've found an ESP prime! More details after we verify it, the wingman reports in, etc.



No news on this subject yet?


The prime is confirmed -- no surprise there as we don't typically see erroneous primes on Proth numbers. The two PPS-MEGA primes are also confirmed. All three wingmen have also reported their results.

We are waiting for XGFN testing to complete, and then for the primes to be reported. For the PPS-MEGA primes, that will probably happen sometime today. The ESP XGFN check is time consuming, even on a fast computer.

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Message 82238 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 17:42:07 UTC

In & Out

Hour by hour, here's an accounting of all the challenge tasks sent out, and successful tasks returned. Tasks sent out before the challenge started are not included in the returned tasks statistics.

Tasks sent out, by hour:

+------+------+------+------+------+ | d | h | SoB | PSP | ESP | +------+------+------+------+------+ | 3 | 18 | 1147 | 1101 | 5320 | | 3 | 19 | 61 | 175 | 1551 | | 3 | 20 | 49 | 145 | 547 | | 3 | 21 | 38 | 65 | 359 | | 3 | 22 | 19 | 34 | 145 | | 3 | 23 | 43 | 111 | 365 | | 4 | 0 | 26 | 74 | 243 | | 4 | 1 | 25 | 35 | 337 | | 4 | 2 | 24 | 31 | 190 | | 4 | 3 | 20 | 26 | 146 | | 4 | 4 | 11 | 21 | 162 | | 4 | 5 | 22 | 39 | 142 | | 4 | 6 | 25 | 38 | 434 | | 4 | 7 | 11 | 52 | 180 | | 4 | 8 | 11 | 17 | 221 | | 4 | 9 | 41 | 27 | 153 | | 4 | 10 | 10 | 32 | 137 | | 4 | 11 | 16 | 19 | 185 | | 4 | 12 | 11 | 15 | 136 | | 4 | 13 | 27 | 26 | 218 | | 4 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 324 | | 4 | 15 | 9 | 26 | 209 | | 4 | 16 | 17 | 25 | 194 | | 4 | 17 | 9 | 17 | 201 | | 4 | 18 | 13 | 17 | 186 | | 4 | 19 | 18 | 27 | 214 | | 4 | 20 | 18 | 20 | 190 | | 4 | 21 | 28 | 25 | 226 | | 4 | 22 | 6 | 29 | 197 | | 4 | 23 | 14 | 28 | 161 | | 5 | 0 | 14 | 19 | 382 | | 5 | 1 | 8 | 31 | 222 | | 5 | 2 | 9 | 11 | 191 | | 5 | 3 | 10 | 15 | 135 | | 5 | 4 | 12 | 31 | 334 | | 5 | 5 | 19 | 27 | 203 | | 5 | 6 | 23 | 31 | 273 | | 5 | 7 | 25 | 21 | 248 | | 5 | 8 | 22 | 46 | 204 | | 5 | 9 | 12 | 29 | 240 | | 5 | 10 | 18 | 58 | 368 | | 5 | 11 | 7 | 72 | 246 | | 5 | 12 | 10 | 14 | 152 | | 5 | 13 | 7 | 25 | 398 | | 5 | 14 | 24 | 27 | 182 | | 5 | 15 | 7 | 35 | 208 | | 5 | 16 | 18 | 24 | 158 | | 5 | 17 | 27 | 49 | 180 | | 5 | 18 | 49 | 51 | 223 | | 5 | 19 | 25 | 24 | 276 | | 5 | 20 | 14 | 32 | 170 | | 5 | 21 | 8 | 32 | 166 | | 5 | 22 | 13 | 30 | 189 | | 5 | 23 | 7 | 19 | 250 | | 6 | 0 | 15 | 26 | 202 | | 6 | 1 | 9 | 10 | 220 | | 6 | 2 | 17 | 25 | 143 | | 6 | 3 | 7 | 44 | 232 | | 6 | 4 | 8 | 15 | 170 | | 6 | 5 | 13 | 20 | 209 | | 6 | 6 | 8 | 33 | 299 | | 6 | 7 | 7 | 21 | 250 | | 6 | 8 | 11 | 7 | 180 | | 6 | 9 | 10 | 29 | 161 | | 6 | 10 | 17 | 47 | 159 | | 6 | 11 | 13 | 30 | 297 | | 6 | 12 | 17 | 182 | 339 | | 6 | 13 | 22 | 32 | 153 | | 6 | 14 | 15 | 23 | 231 | | 6 | 15 | 12 | 27 | 181 | | 6 | 16 | 23 | 34 | 164 | | 6 | 17 | 14 | 36 | 225 | | 6 | 18 | 6 | 22 | 258 | | 6 | 19 | 10 | 31 | 229 | | 6 | 20 | 13 | 27 | 197 | | 6 | 21 | 22 | 29 | 167 | | 6 | 22 | 20 | 17 | 267 | | 6 | 23 | 15 | 38 | 222 | | 7 | 0 | 11 | 17 | 175 | | 7 | 1 | 15 | 25 | 154 | | 7 | 2 | 10 | 51 | 257 | | 7 | 3 | 14 | 27 | 323 | | 7 | 4 | 11 | 19 | 152 | | 7 | 5 | 20 | 21 | 178 | | 7 | 6 | 10 | 26 | 251 | | 7 | 7 | 12 | 30 | 206 | | 7 | 8 | 17 | 32 | 266 | | 7 | 9 | 16 | 34 | 257 | | 7 | 10 | 26 | 43 | 309 | | 7 | 11 | 21 | 28 | 155 | | 7 | 12 | 17 | 16 | 1086 | | 7 | 13 | 34 | 34 | 366 | | 7 | 14 | 39 | 36 | 181 | | 7 | 15 | 23 | 23 | 274 | | 7 | 16 | 37 | 39 | 330 | | 7 | 17 | 9 | 27 | 90 | +------+------+------+------+------+


Successful tasks returned (includes a few tasks that will eventually fail validation):
+------+------+-----+-----+-----+ | d | h | SoB | PSP | ESP | +------+------+-----+-----+-----+ | 3 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 12 | | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 22 | | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 35 | | 4 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 26 | | 4 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 29 | | 4 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 47 | | 4 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 39 | | 4 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 33 | | 4 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 22 | | 4 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 52 | | 4 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 81 | | 4 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 73 | | 4 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 85 | | 4 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 84 | | 4 | 16 | 0 | 0 | 105 | | 4 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 119 | | 4 | 18 | 0 | 0 | 94 | | 4 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 79 | | 4 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 94 | | 4 | 21 | 0 | 0 | 107 | | 4 | 22 | 0 | 0 | 87 | | 4 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 91 | | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 141 | | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 87 | | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 122 | | 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 79 | | 5 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 90 | | 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 109 | | 5 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 108 | | 5 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 105 | | 5 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 125 | | 5 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 117 | | 5 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 107 | | 5 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 102 | | 5 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 115 | | 5 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 111 | | 5 | 14 | 0 | 1 | 112 | | 5 | 15 | 0 | 1 | 155 | | 5 | 16 | 0 | 0 | 117 | | 5 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 94 | | 5 | 18 | 0 | 2 | 122 | | 5 | 19 | 0 | 4 | 102 | | 5 | 20 | 0 | 1 | 149 | | 5 | 21 | 0 | 1 | 108 | | 5 | 22 | 0 | 0 | 120 | | 5 | 23 | 0 | 1 | 113 | | 6 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 131 | | 6 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 152 | | 6 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 107 | | 6 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 146 | | 6 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 106 | | 6 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 81 | | 6 | 6 | 0 | 4 | 129 | | 6 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 162 | | 6 | 8 | 0 | 6 | 113 | | 6 | 9 | 0 | 6 | 149 | | 6 | 10 | 0 | 6 | 147 | | 6 | 11 | 0 | 3 | 125 | | 6 | 12 | 0 | 4 | 113 | | 6 | 13 | 0 | 3 | 144 | | 6 | 14 | 0 | 5 | 133 | | 6 | 15 | 0 | 10 | 128 | | 6 | 16 | 0 | 5 | 117 | | 6 | 17 | 0 | 2 | 163 | | 6 | 18 | 0 | 7 | 156 | | 6 | 19 | 0 | 9 | 141 | | 6 | 20 | 0 | 2 | 128 | | 6 | 21 | 0 | 5 | 150 | | 6 | 22 | 0 | 5 | 119 | | 6 | 23 | 0 | 10 | 121 | | 7 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 129 | | 7 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 121 | | 7 | 2 | 0 | 10 | 147 | | 7 | 3 | 0 | 8 | 136 | | 7 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 130 | | 7 | 5 | 7 | 10 | 143 | | 7 | 6 | 1 | 14 | 163 | | 7 | 7 | 0 | 8 | 141 | | 7 | 8 | 0 | 10 | 136 | | 7 | 9 | 2 | 7 | 117 | | 7 | 10 | 1 | 12 | 124 | | 7 | 11 | 5 | 18 | 140 | | 7 | 12 | 4 | 7 | 127 | | 7 | 13 | 2 | 8 | 142 | | 7 | 14 | 1 | 10 | 129 | | 7 | 15 | 4 | 9 | 140 | | 7 | 16 | 5 | 9 | 171 | | 7 | 17 | 2 | 3 | 92 | +------+------+-----+-----+-----+

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Message 82239 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 18:17:29 UTC

Progress after 4 days:


Challenge: Year of the Sheep
App: 13 (SOB-LLR)
(As of 2015-01-07 18:15:30 UTC)

2842 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 2838 (100%) / 0 (0%) / 4 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

751 (26%) came back with some kind of an error. [751 (26%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
35 (1%) have returned a successful result. [35 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2056 (72%) are still in progress. [2052 (72%) / 0 (0%) / 4 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

34 (97%) are pending validation. [34 (97%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
1 (3%) have been successfully validated. [1 (3%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) were invalid. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) are inconclusive. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=27759851. The leading edge was at n=27694061 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 0.24% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

Challenge: Year of the Sheep
App: 8 (PSP-LLR)
(As of 2015-01-07 18:15:31 UTC)

4418 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 4418 (100%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

1020 (23%) came back with some kind of an error. [1020 (23%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
287 (6%) have returned a successful result. [287 (6%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
3111 (70%) are still in progress. [3111 (70%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

260 (91%) are pending validation. [260 (91%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
27 (9%) have been successfully validated. [27 (9%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) were invalid. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) are inconclusive. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=17494450. The leading edge was at n=17394156 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 0.58% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

Challenge: Year of the Sheep
App: 20 (ESP-LLR)
(As of 2015-01-07 18:15:31 UTC)

29141 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 29135 (100%) / 0 (0%) / 6 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

7919 (27%) came back with some kind of an error. [7919 (27%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
9826 (34%) have returned a successful result. [9822 (34%) / 0 (0%) / 4 (0%)]
11396 (39%) are still in progress. [11394 (39%) / 0 (0%) / 2 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

4298 (44%) are pending validation. [4295 (44%) / 0 (0%) / 3 (0%)]
5423 (55%) have been successfully validated. [5422 (55%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]
23 (0%) were invalid. [23 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
82 (1%) are inconclusive. [82 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=7229947. The leading edge was at n=6931074 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 4.31% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

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Message 82242 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 20:13:36 UTC - in response to Message 82224.

I looked through the database looking for the shortest CPU times for SoB tasks on various high end processors.

This data is fun, but quite useless - it does not reflect number of cores used (i.e. level of cache concurrency), which changes speed dramatically for SoB. For example, for FFT size 1728K on my 4770K, OC to 4.0, 2666 memory (yes, quite old test, recent SoB's are near 2400K but it's a maximum size which I've tested early):
cores ms/iteration 1 7,057 2 7,712 3 9,874 4 12,806

In short, if you want a world record SoB crunching time, just run a single task.

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Message 82244 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 20:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 82242.

This data is fun, but quite useless


It was meant to be fun, so I'm fine with that. :)

There's lots of other factors that significantly affect speed, such as memory speed, number of memory channels in use, CPU clock speed, and so forth. None of those variables are recorded in the database. Furthermore, I included the number of tasks to make clear that this was a very small data set, and statistically that incurs a high margin of error.

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Have any i3 Haswell's or 4***S/4***T (35W/45/54/65) CPU(s) return a challenge SOB or PSP? If so- how do the runtimes compare to (84/88/140W) i5/i7 Haswell?

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Message 82247 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 22:00:40 UTC - in response to Message 82246.

Have any i3 Haswell's or 4***S/4***T (35W/45/54/65) CPU(s) return a challenge SOB or PSP? If so- how do the runtimes compare to (84/88/140W) i5/i7 Haswell?


First of all, my previous listings were for ALL results, not just challenge results. So this is a very different list.

Here's the entire list of Core i3s (of any sort) that have returned a challenge SoB or PSP:

+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----------+ | p_model | count(*) | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----------+ | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 1 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 3 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 4 |


The count is the number of tasks returned for each type of CPU. 8 tasks returned by 54W desktop Haswell i3s. That's it. No Sandy or Ivy Bridge, no low power versions, no mobile chips.

Here's the times for those 8 tasks:

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-------+ | p_model | appid | hours | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-------+ | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 76 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 76 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 80 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 80 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 80 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 85 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 67 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 92 |


The first 7 are PSP, and since the i3 is a dual core hyperthreaded CPU, those are likely times with hyperthreading turned on.

The last task is an SoB, and clearly that time is with hyperthreading off.

If you wanted a bigger data set and look at all the tasks, not just challenge tasks, it looks like this:

+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-------+ | p_model | appid | hours | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-------+ | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 8 | 114 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 8 | 130 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 104 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3120M CPU @ 2.50GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 127 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3120M CPU @ 2.50GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 191 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 236 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 107 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 124 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 8 | 197 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 67 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 115 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130T CPU @ 2.90GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 46 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130T CPU @ 2.90GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 46 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130T CPU @ 2.90GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 47 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 85 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 76 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4150 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 76 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 61 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 80 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 80 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 80 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 8 | 68 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 275 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 186 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 284 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 276 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 308 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 283 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 233 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 284 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 337 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2105 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 256 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 250 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 177 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 275 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 270 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 146 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 280 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 217 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 240 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 228 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2125 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 157 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 130 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 142 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 129 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 178 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 246 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 190 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 460 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 221 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 184 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 557 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 195 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 562 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 208 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 208 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 207 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2370M CPU @ 2.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7] | 13 | 201 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 475 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 215 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 288 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 304 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 236 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 266 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 256 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3220 CPU @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 273 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 122 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 277 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 248 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] | 13 | 258 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 446 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 104 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 222 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 337 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 448 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 148 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 138 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 137 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 92 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 138 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 100 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 162 | | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4330 CPU @ 3.50GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] | 13 | 150 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-------+


Appid 8 is PSP and 13 is SoB. I'll let you draw your own conclusions from the data.

I would guess that a full power desktop i3 *could* be competitive with an i5 or i7 that is running at stock speed if you're only running 2 threads on the i3. The i3 has smaller cache, but it also has half as many cores.

You didn't say why you asked the question, but if you're trying to decide on what kind of CPU to get, I think the i5-4690K combined with fast memory is probably the best bang for the buck for LLR. The i3s are competitive in terms of run-time, but they're doing half as many tasks as the i5s and i7s. When you consider the entire cost of the computer and not just the CPU cost, the i3 isn't really cost effective considering it has half the throughput of its bigger cousins.
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Message 82249 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015 | 23:37:04 UTC - in response to Message 82247.

Thank you for compiling a list including non-FMA CPU's. The LLR program squeezes every performance advantage AVX/FMA provides.
The Intel Broadwell 14nm CPU's have new instruction sets: ADX/RDSEED/prefetchw - but lack AVX 3.2 (512bit) instructions that are now for the Skylake generation. What - if any - performance benefit will future 512bit AVX provide for LLR? Would the ADX (integer) instruction set help with CPU sieving? The difference between a Haswell CPU [40K seconds runtime] and a decent Nvidia GPU [330-700sec] running PPS sieve is rather drastic: the fastest GPU and Haswell CPU computing FMA Genefer show a runtime difference of 10x or less. (Assuming compute is Physical cores instead of HT)

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Message 82250 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 0:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 82249.

Thank you for compiling a list including non-FMA CPU's. The LLR program squeezes every performance advantage AVX/FMA provides.
The Intel Broadwell 14nm CPU's have new instruction sets: ADX/RDSEED/prefetchw - but lack AVX 3.2 (512bit) instructions that are now for the Skylake generation. What - if any - performance benefit will future 512bit AVX provide for LLR? Would the ADX (integer) instruction set help with CPU sieving? The difference between a Haswell CPU [40K seconds runtime] and a decent Nvidia GPU [330-700sec] running PPS sieve is rather drastic: the fastest GPU and Haswell CPU computing FMA Genefer show a runtime difference of 10x or less. (Assuming compute is Physical cores instead of HT)


AVX512 isn't currently on the roadmap for consumer GPUs, and even if it was the expectation is that the memory bandwidth limitation would be even worse than it is with Haswell. It's therefore unclear exactly how much benefit there will be, even if it makes its way to consumer CPUs. But whatever George is able to squeeze out of Broadwell will be gladly accepted by the entire prime hunting community. :)

As for integer instructions and sieving, I have no idea.
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Thank you for compiling a list including non-FMA CPU's. The LLR program squeezes every performance advantage AVX/FMA provides.
The Intel Broadwell 14nm CPU's have new instruction sets: ADX/RDSEED/prefetchw - but lack AVX 3.2 (512bit) instructions that are now for the Skylake generation. What - if any - performance benefit will future 512bit AVX provide for LLR? Would the ADX (integer) instruction set help with CPU sieving? The difference between a Haswell CPU [40K seconds runtime] and a decent Nvidia GPU [330-700sec] running PPS sieve is rather drastic: the fastest GPU and Haswell CPU computing FMA Genefer show a runtime difference of 10x or less. (Assuming compute is Physical cores instead of HT)


... the expectation is that the memory bandwidth limitation would be even worse than it is with Haswell. It's therefore unclear exactly how much benefit there will be, even if it makes its way to consumer CPUs.


Skylake is the successor to Broadwell, and according to the usual sources like Wikipedia, leaked papers, and official murmurings from Intel (I think), it will have AVX512 (link. By then presumably enthusiasts will all have highly-clocked DDR4 to support it, and hopefully quad-channel, so maybe that'll be able to feed the CPU? Who knows, I hope so though.

I was going to ask about ADX myself, the other day, it sounds like it could improve sieving? We need someone who knows to comment, really, don't we...

As an aside, the Broadwell CPUs are currently expected to have an unusually short window of being the latest architecture - apparently the plan is to release non-K (i.e. multiplier locked) versions at first, then when Skylake is released, Broadwell-K/E/EX will be released at the same time. For non-servers, and non-rich people, buying a Broadwell sounds like a poor investment if things do indeed pan out like that; i.e., it'll be a short wait until Skylake, which as well as the new extensions which may or may not be of any use to PG, has larger caches (not just L3 and the new L4 eDRAM). I can't find a reliable source for that at the moment, there were some configurations listed on Wikipedia not so long ago though. I think it was a doubling of the L2 cache per core.

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Message 82252 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 1:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 82251.

Skylake is the successor to Broadwell, and according to the usual sources like Wikipedia, leaked papers, and official murmurings from Intel (I think), it will have AVX512


I believe Intel released, this week at CES, a roadmap that does not have AVX512 in any consumer CPUs for the foreseeable future.
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I stand corrected... that's relying too much on Wikipedia for you I suppose! Especially about future plans/events, anyway.

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Message 82255 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 3:38:48 UTC - in response to Message 82252.

I believe Intel released, this week at CES, a roadmap that does not have AVX512 in any consumer CPUs for the foreseeable future.

While we're on a Wikipedia theme, [Citation needed].

I can't find any news about a new roadmap at CES. The last information I can find is from November, and that says, "Skylake is expected to include the updated form of AVX with support for 512-bit registers (AVX 3.2/512F)".
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Message 82256 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 4:07:12 UTC - in response to Message 82255.

I believe Intel released, this week at CES, a roadmap that does not have AVX512 in any consumer CPUs for the foreseeable future.

While we're on a Wikipedia theme, [Citation needed].

I can't find any news about a new roadmap at CES. The last information I can find is from November, and that says, "Skylake is expected to include the updated form of AVX with support for 512-bit registers (AVX 3.2/512F)".


Can't find it now, but it was in Wired or Engadget a couple of days ago. I think it from the press pre-opening happenings this past weekend.
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Message 82261 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 17:52:12 UTC

Status after 5 days:

Here's a new way of looking at the data:

+------+-----+-----+------+ | date | SoB | PSP | ESP | +------+-----+-----+------+ | 1 | 82 | 83 | 587 | | 2 | 74 | 72 | 697 | | 3 | 48 | 100 | 564 | | 4 | 64 | 83 | 1746 | | 5 | 65 | 88 | 2872 | | 6 | 65 | 201 | 3258 | | 7 | 119 | 278 | 3354 | | 8 | 83 | 163 | 2692 | +------+-----+-----+------+


That's the number of good results returned in each calendar day, regardless of whether the task is part of the challenge.

You can easily see the five-fold increase in ESP tasks coming in, and the sizeable increase in PSP tasks starting on January 6th, and SoB starting yesterday on the 7th.

I'm curious to see if there will be a big surge on the last day of the challenge -- and how much this carries over into the days immediately after the challenge.


Some more traditional numbers:

Challenge: Year of the Sheep
App: 13 (SOB-LLR)
(As of 2015-01-08 17:46:59 UTC)

3180 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 3176 (100%) / 0 (0%) / 4 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

932 (29%) came back with some kind of an error. [932 (29%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
108 (3%) have returned a successful result. [108 (3%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2140 (67%) are still in progress. [2136 (67%) / 0 (0%) / 4 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

97 (90%) are pending validation. [97 (90%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
9 (8%) have been successfully validated. [9 (8%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) were invalid. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2 (2%) are inconclusive. [2 (2%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=27765583. The leading edge was at n=27694061 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 0.26% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

Challenge: Year of the Sheep
App: 8 (PSP-LLR)
(As of 2015-01-08 17:47:00 UTC)

5080 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 5080 (100%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

1383 (27%) came back with some kind of an error. [1383 (27%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
443 (9%) have returned a successful result. [443 (9%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
3254 (64%) are still in progress. [3254 (64%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

366 (83%) are pending validation. [366 (83%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
75 (17%) have been successfully validated. [75 (17%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
0 (0%) were invalid. [0 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
2 (0%) are inconclusive. [2 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=17505941. The leading edge was at n=17394156 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 0.64% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

Challenge: Year of the Sheep
App: 20 (ESP-LLR)
(As of 2015-01-08 17:47:00 UTC)

34708 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 34702 (100%) / 0 (0%) / 6 (0%)]

Of those tasks that have been sent out:

9270 (27%) came back with some kind of an error. [9270 (27%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
13289 (38%) have returned a successful result. [13285 (38%) / 0 (0%) / 4 (0%)]
12150 (35%) are still in progress. [12148 (35%) / 0 (0%) / 2 (0%)]

Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

4856 (37%) are pending validation. [4854 (37%) / 0 (0%) / 2 (0%)]
8286 (62%) have been successfully validated. [8285 (62%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]
39 (0%) were invalid. [39 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
108 (1%) are inconclusive. [107 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]

The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=7295084. The leading edge was at n=6931074 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 5.25% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

I'm rather impressed that we've advanced the ESP 'n' by over 5% so far (about 360K).
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Message 82262 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 18:03:22 UTC - in response to Message 82261.

Where you state that "some came back with some kind of an error" does that include the aborted wu's?

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Message 82264 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 18:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 82262.

Where you state that "some came back with some kind of an error" does that include the aborted wu's?


Yes.
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Message 82269 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015 | 20:40:52 UTC
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K=161041 Eliminated!

On January 6th, Martin Vanc (vmv) of the Czech Republic discovered the 2,139,716 digit mega prime:

161041*2^7107964+1

This is the first ESP k elimination in nearly two years. 11 k's remain in the Extended Sierpinski problem, plus the 14 remaining k's in the Sierpinski Problem (aka "Seventeen or Bust") and the Prime Sierpinski Problem.

This is the 23rd largest known prime number. It is PrimeGrid's first mega prime of 2015, and our 68th overall.

Coincidentally, 2 additional mega primes were found shortly afterwards. Within the span of less than 15 hours three mega primes were found at PrimeGrid. The other two primes, 177*2^3411847+1 and 245*2^3411974+1, are unrelated to the Sierpinski problems. That brings our total to 70 overall.

Link to the top 5K entry: http://primes.utm.edu/primes/page.php?id=119068

As a result of eliminating this k, we've pulled the remaining candidates with k=161041 and n>7107964 from the system. A small number of those candidates were already in the pipeline to be processed, so there may be a few that get sent out. Over 10 thousand candidates with n<10M were removed. 161041 was the third "heaviest" remaining k. Only 202705 and 238411 had more candidates.

Since we'll no longer be testing k=161041, this k has also been removed from the sieve file used for the SoB/PSP/ESP sieve. If you're running the sieve, you will get the new sieve file as soon as you get a newly generated task. Expect a large, one time download, and slightly shorter sieve times.
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