R9 290X - PPS Sieve

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Hello !

I am trying to help another cruncher (http://www.primegrid.com/show_user.php?userid=54689) understanding why he can't receive any PPS Sieve WU's for his R9 290X.

On the "Fastest GPU Page", this card don't appear at all (Except R9 280X)
Is this an indication that one cannot run PPS Sieve on R9 290 ?

Even with the app_info file one can find in the GFN Challenge' forum ... ?

Any Idea ?

Important : He runs 1 nVidia GTX680 + 1 R9 290X in the same machine.

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Hello !

I am trying to help another cruncher (http://www.primegrid.com/show_user.php?userid=54689) understanding why he can't receive any PPS Sieve WU's for his R9 290X.

On the "Fastest GPU Page", this card don't appear at all (Except R9 280X)
Is this an indication that one cannot run PPS Sieve on R9 2u90 ?

Even with the app_info file one can find in the GFN Challenge' forum ... ?

Any Idea ?

Important : He runs 1 nVidia GTX680 + 1 R9 290X in the same machine.

Thank You

Kind regards,

Phil1966

Try adding this line in cc_config file:

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

If 1, use all GPUs (otherwise only what boinc thinks is the most capable ones are used).

Check how to here:http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
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Hello !

I am trying to help another cruncher (http://www.primegrid.com/show_user.php?userid=54689) understanding why he can't receive any PPS Sieve WU's for his R9 290X.

On the "Fastest GPU Page", this card don't appear at all (Except R9 280X)
Is this an indication that one cannot run PPS Sieve on R9 290 ?

Even with the app_info file one can find in the GFN Challenge' forum ... ?

Any Idea ?

Important : He runs 1 nVidia GTX680 + 1 R9 290X in the same machine.

Thank You

Kind regards,

Phil1966

The BOINC server does not recognize the 290 and won't automatically send tasks to it. It should, however, send tasks to it if you use a correctly configured app_info file.

Please post the app_info file contents, the location (directory) of where you put that file, and both the beginning of the BOINC log as well as the portion of the BOINC log that shows what happens when you request work.
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Thank You Michael,

I will forward yout message to this user +
send him a link to this forum.

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I saw this thread at MiklyWay
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=3457#60992

And essentially they said that after some testing they got the newer cards to work over there by:
"If you run on a R9 280X*, you can download BOINC v 7.2.39 here, but you will also need AMD APP (Accelerated Parallel Processing)"

The link to download 7.2.39 is here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8378&postid=52011#52198

and the link to download the amd app stuff is here"
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/heterogeneous-computing/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/

I am wondering if that will let the newer AMD cards run here too?

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Mikey, good suggestion.

Win7/x64, R280X, Calatyst 13.12, AMD-APP-SDK-v2.9-Windows-641.exe, BOINC 7.2.39.

07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.39 for windows_x86_64 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak) 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1348.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak) 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.5 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5)) 07/02/2014 12:45:41 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed 07/02/2014 12:45:51 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 07/02/2014 12:45:51 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI 07/02/2014 12:45:54 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks 07/02/2014 12:45:56 | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe 07/02/2014 12:45:58 | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe 07/02/2014 12:45:58 | PrimeGrid | Starting task pps_sr2sieve_70318988_2

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Mikey, good suggestion.

Win7/x64, R280X, Calatyst 13.12, AMD-APP-SDK-v2.9-Windows-641.exe, BOINC 7.2.39.

07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.39 for windows_x86_64 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak) 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1348.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak) 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.5 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5)) 07/02/2014 12:45:41 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed 07/02/2014 12:45:51 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 07/02/2014 12:45:51 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI 07/02/2014 12:45:54 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks 07/02/2014 12:45:56 | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe 07/02/2014 12:45:58 | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe 07/02/2014 12:45:58 | PrimeGrid | Starting task pps_sr2sieve_70318988_2

That IS good news!!!! Hopefully it will work everywhere.

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Mikey, good suggestion.

Win7/x64, R280X, Calatyst 13.12, AMD-APP-SDK-v2.9-Windows-641.exe, BOINC 7.2.39.

07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.39 for windows_x86_64 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak) 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1348.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak) 07/02/2014 12:41:45 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.5 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5)) 07/02/2014 12:45:41 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed 07/02/2014 12:45:51 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 07/02/2014 12:45:51 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI 07/02/2014 12:45:54 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks 07/02/2014 12:45:56 | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe 07/02/2014 12:45:58 | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe 07/02/2014 12:45:58 | PrimeGrid | Starting task pps_sr2sieve_70318988_2

Does it work for the GFN tasks too?
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Does it work for the GFN tasks too?

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Thank You All !

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still not recognizing the r9 290X with the update to 7.2.39

2/13/2014 1:09:38 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1411.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1411.4), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3520 GFLOPS peak)

Its a 4 gb card.

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still not recognizing the r9 290X with the update to 7.2.39

2/13/2014 1:09:38 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1411.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1411.4), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3520 GFLOPS peak)

Its a 4 gb card.

What happens when you try to request work?
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BOINC requests work for the ATI card gets 0 and backs off communication

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BOINC requests work for the ATI card gets 0 and backs off communication

Could you post the relevant portion of the BOINC log?
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2/14/2014 6:59:17 AM | PrimeGrid | update requested by user
2/14/2014 6:59:18 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
2/14/2014 6:59:18 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI
2/14/2014 6:59:19 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/14/2014 6:59:29 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2/14/2014 6:59:29 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI
2/14/2014 6:59:30 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

Please note that I do have the ATI gpu task clicked in my preferences

If you want, try to catch me in the chatroom. If we're both online at the same time, I can turn on the trace on the server while your computer requests work. That is often useful when it's not obvious why work isn't being sent.
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290 won't get WUs for me either.

3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for windows_x86_64
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Running under account KWH
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1348.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.4), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3040 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | OpenCL CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.4 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.4))
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Host name: X6one
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Processor: 32 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 8: Professional x64 Edition, (06.02.9200.00)
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Memory: 16.00 GB physical, 18.25 GB virtual
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Disk: 232.88 GB total, 109.18 GB free
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Config: simulate 32 CPUs
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Config: report completed tasks immediately
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Config: use all coprocessors
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | 192.168.0.109
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | kwh-pc
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Version change (7.2.33 -> 7.2.42)
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | Collatz Conjecture | URL http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 138071; resource share 300
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | pogs | URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID 23103; resource share 300
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 418672; resource share 100
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | Collatz Conjecture | General prefs: from Collatz Conjecture (last modified 10-Aug-2013 23:34:12)
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | Collatz Conjecture | Computer location: home
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Reading preferences override file
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Preferences:
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | max memory usage when active: 8191.24MB
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 14744.24MB
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | max disk usage: 109.34GB
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | max CPUs used: 3
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/7/2014 3:53:48 AM | | Not using a proxy
3/7/2014 3:53:49 AM | | Running CPU benchmarks
3/7/2014 3:53:49 AM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
3/7/2014 3:54:21 AM | | Benchmark results:
3/7/2014 3:54:21 AM | | Number of CPUs: 3
3/7/2014 3:54:21 AM | | 2764 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
3/7/2014 3:54:21 AM | | 9219 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
3/7/2014 3:54:50 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2014 3:54:50 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI
3/7/2014 3:54:52 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2014 3:55:03 AM | PrimeGrid | Resetting project
3/7/2014 3:55:09 AM | PrimeGrid | Master file download succeeded
3/7/2014 3:55:14 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2014 3:55:14 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI
3/7/2014 3:55:15 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2014 3:55:17 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 3:55:17 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 3:55:18 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 3:55:18 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 4:00:58 AM | PrimeGrid | Resetting project
3/7/2014 4:00:58 AM | PrimeGrid | Detaching from project
3/7/2014 4:01:15 AM | | Fetching configuration file from http://www.primegrid.com/get_project_config.php
3/7/2014 4:01:33 AM | PrimeGrid | Master file download succeeded
3/7/2014 4:01:38 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
3/7/2014 4:01:38 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI
3/7/2014 4:01:40 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2014 4:01:40 AM | PrimeGrid | No tasks sent
3/7/2014 4:01:40 AM | PrimeGrid | No tasks are available for PPS (Sieve)
3/7/2014 4:01:40 AM | PrimeGrid | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
3/7/2014 4:01:42 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 4:01:42 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 4:01:43 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 4:01:43 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 4:01:50 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2014 4:01:50 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI
3/7/2014 4:01:51 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

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290 won't get WUs for me either.

Two tips.

First, BOINC recognises OpenCL but not CAL.
(compare your BOINC log output with mine).
Is AMD-APP-SDK-v2.9-Windows-641.exe installad?

Second, there might be something broken in 7.2.42. I see you've upgraded from 7.2.33
It worked for me using 7.2.39, worth a try?
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2.9 SDK is installed, will try 7.2.39.
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Didn't help.

3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.39 for windows_x86_64
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Running under account KWH
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1348.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.4), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3040 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | OpenCL CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.4 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.4))
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Host name: X6one
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Processor: 32 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 8: Professional x64 Edition, (06.02.9200.00)
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Memory: 16.00 GB physical, 18.25 GB virtual
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Disk: 232.88 GB total, 108.99 GB free
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Config: simulate 32 CPUs
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Config: report completed tasks immediately
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Config: use all coprocessors
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | 192.168.0.109
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | kwh-pc
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Version change (7.2.42 -> 7.2.39)
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | Collatz Conjecture | URL http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 138071; resource share 300
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | pogs | URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID 23103; resource share 300
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 418672; resource share 100
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | Collatz Conjecture | General prefs: from Collatz Conjecture (last modified 10-Aug-2013 23:34:12)
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | Collatz Conjecture | Computer location: home
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Reading preferences override file
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Preferences:
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | max memory usage when active: 8191.24MB
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 14744.24MB
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | max disk usage: 109.15GB
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | max CPUs used: 3
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/7/2014 4:26:13 AM | | Not using a proxy
3/7/2014 4:26:14 AM | | Running CPU benchmarks
3/7/2014 4:26:14 AM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
3/7/2014 4:26:46 AM | | Benchmark results:
3/7/2014 4:26:46 AM | | Number of CPUs: 3
3/7/2014 4:26:46 AM | | 2861 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
3/7/2014 4:26:46 AM | | 9217 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
3/7/2014 4:26:58 AM | PrimeGrid | Resetting project
3/7/2014 4:27:01 AM | PrimeGrid | Master file download succeeded
3/7/2014 4:27:07 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2014 4:27:07 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for ATI
3/7/2014 4:27:08 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2014 4:27:10 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 4:27:10 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 4:27:11 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 4:27:11 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png

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If you can do a clean install where no others WUs are left, try it out, Iam always using development versions without any issues yet. The latest one is 7.3.10 if you want to try.

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If you can do a clean install where no others WUs are left, try it out, Iam always using development versions without any issues yet. The latest one is 7.3.10 if you want to try.

I can give it a try. Is there a link to download?
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If you can do a clean install where no others WUs are left, try it out, Iam always using development versions without any issues yet. The latest one is 7.3.10 if you want to try.

I can give it a try. Is there a link to download?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D

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Thanks! I'll try it.
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Still no go. Thanks for the help.

3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.3.10 for windows_x86_64
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.33.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1e zlib/1.2.8
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Running under account KWH
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1348.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3030 GFLOPS peak)
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | OpenCL CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.5 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5))
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Host name: X6one
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Processor: 32 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0]
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 8: Professional x64 Edition, (06.02.9200.00)
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Memory: 16.00 GB physical, 18.25 GB virtual
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Disk: 232.88 GB total, 107.62 GB free
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Config: simulate 32 CPUs
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Config: report completed tasks immediately
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Config: use all coprocessors
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | 192.168.0.109
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | kwh-pc
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | Collatz Conjecture | URL http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 138071; resource share 300
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | pogs | URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID 23103; resource share 300
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 418672; resource share 100
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | Collatz Conjecture | General prefs: from Collatz Conjecture (last modified 10-Aug-2013 23:34:12)
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | Collatz Conjecture | Computer location: home
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Reading preferences override file
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Preferences:
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | max memory usage when active: 8191.24MB
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 14744.24MB
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | max disk usage: 107.77GB
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | max CPUs used: 3
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
3/7/2014 5:54:58 AM | | Not using a proxy
3/7/2014 5:55:02 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2014 5:55:02 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
3/7/2014 5:55:03 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2014 5:55:27 AM | PrimeGrid | Resetting project
3/7/2014 5:55:27 AM | PrimeGrid | Detaching from project
3/7/2014 5:55:46 AM | | Fetching configuration file from http://www.primegrid.com/get_project_config.php
3/7/2014 5:56:02 AM | PrimeGrid | Master file download succeeded
3/7/2014 5:56:07 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
3/7/2014 5:56:07 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and AMD/ATI GPU
3/7/2014 5:56:08 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
3/7/2014 5:56:08 AM | PrimeGrid | No tasks sent
3/7/2014 5:56:08 AM | PrimeGrid | No tasks are available for PPS (Sieve)
3/7/2014 5:56:08 AM | PrimeGrid | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
3/7/2014 5:56:10 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 5:56:10 AM | PrimeGrid | Started download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 5:56:11 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of stat_primegrid.png
3/7/2014 5:56:11 AM | PrimeGrid | Finished download of primegrid_slideshow_00.png
3/7/2014 5:56:18 AM | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
3/7/2014 5:56:18 AM | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
3/7/2014 5:56:20 AM | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

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This is a long thread so it could be missed. Have you tried the suggestions in http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=5487&nowrap=true#73226? That has worked for people.
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Is there any real solution for this annoying issue?
I am unable to set my Asus R9 290 to crunch, even with BOINC 7.2.39 and AMD APP SDK instaled with original 13.251-131206a-165807C-Asus / ATI 14.4 driver. BOINC beta 7.3.13 does not help too.

2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.3.19 for windows_x86_64
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.33.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1g zlib/1.2.8
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | |
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1348.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3030 GFLOPS peak)
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1348.5 (sse2,avx), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5))
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Host name: Obsidian750D
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3]
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx tm2 pbe fsgsbase bmi1 smep bmi2
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Memory: 15.93 GB physical, 15.93 GB virtual
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Disk: 111.69 GB total, 68.44 GB free
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Local time is UTC +2 hours
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | VirtualBox version: 4.3.12
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Config: don't compute while WorldOfTanks.exe is running
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | rosetta@home | URL http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 1756916; resource share 100
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | Poem@Home | URL http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/; Computer ID 328056; resource share 0
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 430351; resource share 100
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | General prefs: from http://bam.boincstats.com/ (last modified 21-Nov-2013 07:57:04)
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Host location: none
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | General prefs: using your defaults
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Reading preferences override file
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Preferences:
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | max memory usage when active: 16317.00MB
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | max memory usage when idle: 16317.00MB
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | max disk usage: 55.84GB
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2014-06-02 18:12:41 | | Not using a proxy
2014-06-02 18:12:42 | | Contacting account manager at http://bam.boincstats.com/
2014-06-02 18:12:42 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2014-06-02 18:12:42 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
2014-06-02 18:12:52 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2014-06-02 18:12:55 | | Account manager: BAM! User: 115901, premier
2014-06-02 18:12:55 | | Account manager: BAM! Host: 508080
2014-06-02 18:12:55 | | Account manager: Number of BAM! connections for this host: 76
2014-06-02 18:12:55 | | Account manager contact succeeded
2014-06-02 18:12:58 | rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2014-06-02 18:12:58 | rosetta@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
2014-06-02 18:12:58 | rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
2014-06-02 18:13:02 | rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2014-06-02 18:13:07 | Poem@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2014-06-02 18:13:07 | Poem@Home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
2014-06-02 18:13:11 | Poem@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2014-06-02 18:18:05 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2014-06-02 18:18:05 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
2014-06-02 18:18:08 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

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If those suggestions don't work, at this time the only other action I can suggest is to use app_info, which is guaranteed to work.

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Can you explain what cause the problem? Maybe I can run some debug mode? I had no problem with 270X onboard, but 290 is a real pain.

I think the key is missing CAL, like this one (my other PC):

CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 6570/6670/7570/7670 series (Turks) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 1024MB, 991MB available, 931 GFLOPS peak)

I bet, that real problem lays somewhere in BOINC manager.

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And here is the best part, at primegrid page, where my computers are listed, when i look at GPU table i see:
PC with R9 290: CAL Hawaii (3072MB), vbox 4.3.12 () but no driver version like at my other machines:
Laptop with ATI 6570: CAL AMD Radeon HD 6570/6670/7570/7670 series (Turks) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1848, vbox 4.2.0 ()
PC with ATI 7850: CAL AMD Radeon HD 7850/7870 series (Pitcairn) (1024MB) driver: 1.4.1848

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Could your compare versions of video drivers installed on both systems? I heard rumors that AMD started dropping support for CAL (also known as ATI STREAM) in newest drivers in favor of openCL, so you may need to downgrade. Or you may need to install extra package for CAL... cannot say for sure, I didn't paid much attention to this area for a long time.

Try to google for other independent CAL / ATI STREAM programs/examples and see on which of your systems could you run them. Then it would be clear is it a problem with video drivers (CAL not supported) or Boinc GPU detection issue.

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As i have stated before, i tried different version of drivers, but it looks like it's something else. I made simple test - took off R9 290, put my previous R9 270X - voila it's working, than again took off R9 270X, put R9 290 - not working ;(

clinfo says:

Number of platforms: 1
Platform Profile: FULL_PROFILE
Platform Version: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5)
Platform Name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Proces
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Platform Vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Platform Extensions: cl_khr_icd cl_amd_event_callbac
k cl_amd_offline_devices cl_khr_d3d10_sharing cl_khr_d3d11_sharing cl_khr_dx9_me
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Platform Name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Proces
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Number of devices: 2
Device Type: CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU
Device ID: 4098
Board name: ASUS R9 290 Series
Device Topology: PCI[ B#1, D#0, F#0 ]
Max compute units: 40
Max work items dimensions: 3
Max work items[0]: 256
Max work items[1]: 256
Max work items[2]: 256
Max work group size: 256
Preferred vector width char: 4
Preferred vector width short: 2
Preferred vector width int: 1
Preferred vector width long: 1
Preferred vector width float: 1
Preferred vector width double: 1
Native vector width char: 4
Native vector width short: 2
Native vector width int: 1
Native vector width long: 1
Native vector width float: 1
Native vector width double: 1
Max clock frequency: 947Mhz
Address bits: 32
Max memory allocation: 4025483264
Image support: Yes
Max number of images read arguments: 128
Max number of images write arguments: 8
Max image 2D width: 16384
Max image 2D height: 16384
Max image 3D width: 2048
Max image 3D height: 2048
Max image 3D depth: 2048
Max samplers within kernel: 16
Max size of kernel argument: 1024
Alignment (bits) of base address: 2048
Minimum alignment (bytes) for any datatype: 128
Single precision floating point capability
Denorms: No
Quiet NaNs: Yes
Round to nearest even: Yes
Round to zero: Yes
Round to +ve and infinity: Yes
IEEE754-2008 fused multiply-add: Yes
Cache type: Read/Write
Cache line size: 64
Cache size: 16384
Global memory size: 3221225472
Constant buffer size: 65536
Max number of constant args: 8
Local memory type: Scratchpad
Local memory size: 32768
Kernel Preferred work group size multiple: 64
Error correction support: 0
Unified memory for Host and Device: 0
Profiling timer resolution: 1
Device endianess: Little
Available: Yes
Compiler available: Yes
Execution capabilities:
Execute OpenCL kernels: Yes
Execute native function: No
Queue properties:
Out-of-Order: No
Profiling : Yes
Platform ID: 000007FEE0EAAE10
Name: Hawaii
Vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Device OpenCL C version: OpenCL C 1.2
Driver version: 1348.5 (VM)
Profile: FULL_PROFILE
Version: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5)
Extensions: cl_khr_fp64 cl_amd_fp64 cl_khr_
global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int3
2_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_int64_base_atomics cl_
khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_3d_image_writes cl_khr_byte_addressable_store
cl_khr_gl_sharing cl_ext_atomic_counters_32 cl_amd_device_attribute_query cl_amd
_vec3 cl_amd_printf cl_amd_media_ops cl_amd_media_ops2 cl_amd_popcnt cl_khr_d3d1
0_sharing cl_khr_dx9_media_sharing cl_khr_image2d_from_buffer

Compared to my ATI 7850, only minor difference (except hardware related) is:

Version: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.4)

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The log which you've posted is an information about openCL API. As far as I understand, PrimeGrid applications requires CAL (AMD STREAM) API.

Ok, try to download following: http://http.distributed.net/pub/dcti/current-client/dnetc-win32-x86-stream.zip

Run "dnetc.com -gpuinfo"

If you'll see long output with lot of different hex numbers - at least you card is detectable.
If you'll see "Cannot initalize..." etc. - I'm sorry, CAL API for your card is not supported. Check it with working card to be sure that it's not a program's error.

May be R9 280X is not supported yet (need new drivers). May be it'll never be supported because AMD is dropping CAL support and moving to openCL... Don't know for sure.

Also, you'll be able to use your card if PrimeGrid will ever have openCL versions of their GPU applications.

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Can you explain what cause the problem?

Going by memory (I last looked at this several months ago), the problem is that the latest ATI cards aren't identified in the same way by the drivers, and therefore the BOINC client doesn't recognize them. The client, in turn, doesn't tell the server that the cards are capable of running the tasks.

Again, if I remember correctly, there was no easy way to fix this on the server -- either the drivers or the BOINC client needed to change, and we have control of neither of those.

If the tips in the earlier messages don't work, the only thing I can suggest is to use app_info. It's a nuisance, but it WILL work.
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Thank You guys for your help. I think I just leave this as is. I think it should be a subject to consider for app developpers, not mine, to make top GPU's working fine without any "tricks".

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Thank You guys for your help. I think I just leave this as is. I think it should be a subject to consider for app developpers, not mine, to make top GPU's working fine without any "tricks".

As stated it's an AMD decision to make changes to their new R series, and beyond, cards that now the Main Boinc Programmers must make changes to the Server Side of Boinc. OR you can use some simple tricks. ie the app_info file, and it will work now.

As for 'tricks' we gpu crunchers have been using them since the very beginning of being able to use gpu's here at Boinc. The Programmers seemed to have never envisioned people using more then a single gpu to crunch with, in a single machine, and are now modifying the whole code to make some major changes. ALOT of people are using 2 gpu's in a single machine now and SOME people have more then 3 or 4 gpu's in a single machine!! Can you just imagine the 'tricks' needed to make a 3 or 4 gpu machine, each on it's own project, work efficiently? How about 2 on 1 project and 2 on a different one, or some other combination of that. There are/were even 'tricks' needed to make 2 gpu's work in a Windows machine that involve MAKING a 'dummy plug' just so Windows doesn't turn off the 2nd gpu to 'save resources' if there is no monitor plugged into it.

In short 'tricks' is how we crunchers take gaming type parts and make them work for us and good grief do the credits come pouring out of them when we do! Apparently gaming does not require any 'CAL' stuff, and since gaming is a much better sales point then crunching is AMD is making a choice to better serve their market. And we crunchers are going to have to learn to deal with it, we can either use 'tricks' to make them work or not buy the new R series gpu's, and any newer ones from AMD either as they will NOT have CAL in them either.

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Believe me, it's not i do not want cause i'm lazy or something.
Imagine, I already had 7xR9 290 config in one machine and that was hard to run :) I built my custom 4U RACK case to fit all, than i had to fight with stupid OS GPU limits, than make appropriate configs. That was tough.

I wrote this, because we are giving free computational power to some project, so why should we concern? This is only one way free, i pay for electricity, so if I am ready to be a volounteer, than project holders should care how to use it, not us.

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Programming new applications takes time. It may not even be the application that is 100% the issue, it may be partially BOINC itself and as most crunchers know it is written by a small dedicated subset of people, but they have to do a lot of testing before it is allowed out in the wild.

This is why the programmers built in the ability for the users to make adjustments and get their equipment working faster than waiting for the programmers.

Since there is more than one group involved in this, it will probably take time to fix. AMD isn't done playing. The R290 is already different than the R270. How are those programmers able to keep up with the quick and ever changing minds of the GPU engineers, programmers, etc? The issues are found after they are on the market, because most projects are not funded with tons of money and they have to budget every cent they have and cannot keep buying new equipment as it hits the shelves to test. Again, a good reason for the ability for the user to do the testing.

So, remember, there are millions of crunchers, a few dozen projects, many with people like you and me, having a regular job and running the project on the side and not having all day to make it all work for every new piece of equipment that is released.
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I do have the same problem with my 290-X cards. Can someone please post a ready to use app-info for pps sieve and genefer? (win64 edition)... thank you all in advance

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290 won't get WUs for me either.

Two tips.

First, BOINC recognises OpenCL but not CAL.
(compare your BOINC log output with mine).
Is AMD-APP-SDK-v2.9-Windows-641.exe installad?

Second, there might be something broken in 7.2.42. I see you've upgraded from 7.2.33
It worked for me using 7.2.39, worth a try?

I thought the apps to run prime where open cl.
So where is the problem then ? :P

Anyways does not work here neither.

It worked for you, okey how many r9 290 are you running, cant see you computers are hidden

Anyways CAL dont work neither, i got "CAL Hawaii (3072MB)" no open cl and still i get 0

Mhz maby thats the actual problem. did not look before, but if that thing sad CAL before i started messing with it maby thats why i dont get open CL units.

In collatz it say's "AMD Hawaii (3072MB) OpenCL: 1.02"

In the logfile it say's

6/30/2014 4:11:17 AM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Hawaii (driver version 1445.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1445.5), 3072MB, 3072MB available, 3520 GFLOPS peak)
6/30/2014 4:11:17 AM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1445.5 (sse2,avx), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1445.5))
6/30/2014 4:11:17 AM | | Host name: zoink
6/30/2014 4:11:17 AM | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]
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valterc

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I guess that in order to support (easily, without anonymous platforms) the Hawaii GPUs a project needs both a suitable application (no CAL/Stream but any openCL one should be fine) AND a server upgrade (at least the gpu recognition part of it).

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I guess that in order to support (easily, without anonymous platforms) the Hawaii GPUs a project needs both a suitable application (no CAL/Stream but any openCL one should be fine) AND a server upgrade (at least the gpu recognition part of it).

Any progress (news) on this topic?

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I guess that in order to support (easily, without anonymous platforms) the Hawaii GPUs a project needs both a suitable application (no CAL/Stream but any openCL one should be fine) AND a server upgrade (at least the gpu recognition part of it).

Any progress (news) on this topic?

Not at this time.
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Sorry to bump this thread, but can anyone post the relevant app_info.xml snippet? I'd like to get my R9 290 ready for the Solstice challenge!

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