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DirkProject donor
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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,983,952)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,124,368)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,235,977)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,576,283)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,939,868)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,983,690)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,169)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,371,141)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,348,198)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,842,725)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,057,397)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (22,187)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,767)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,761,254)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (246,793,841)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,293,182)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,183,808)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,137,844)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,044,244)PSA Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (168,922,507)
Message 71217 - Posted: 1 Dec 2013 | 20:51:44 UTC

While downloading the latest versions of Boinc, I saw that we now have the choice between Boinc and Boinc + VirtualBox. It's not clear to me what this VirtualBox is.

Does PrimeGrid use it for anything useful?
Can we do anything useful with VirtualBox if we are only crunching for PrimeGrid?
Or is it just another piece of software that will eat up memory and performance?

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Message 71222 - Posted: 1 Dec 2013 | 21:54:22 UTC - in response to Message 71217.
Last modified: 2 Dec 2013 | 13:35:04 UTC

While downloading the latest versions of Boinc, I saw that we now have the choice between Boinc and Boinc + VirtualBox. It's not clear to me what this VirtualBox is.

Does PrimeGrid use it for anything useful?
Can we do anything useful with VirtualBox if we are only crunching for PrimeGrid?
Or is it just another piece of software that will eat up memory and performance?



PrimeGrid does not use VirtualBox at the present time, nor do we have any plans to use it in the foreseeable future. The biggest concern is that instead of downloading normal size apps such as LLR or Genefer, you would need to download complete VM images from us. The bandwidth requirements might be a deal breaker, and at a minimum will require VERY careful analysis before we'd attempt to use it. My biggest concern would be users like cncrs04 who would need to download that image to each of thousands of virtual hosts, and those hosts get recycled sometimes, so the VMs would need to be downloaded each time he gets new hosts.

Second problem is that it doesn't work for GPUs.

Third problem is it doesn't work for sparc, ARM, or anything other than Intel x86 architecture.

The advantage for projects is that we can deploy ONLY a linux app, which runs inside a linux VM. We wouldn't have to maintain separate Windows, Linux, and Mac builds. The same 'app' (actually a complete VM (virtual machine) image) would run under VirtualBox on all systems. That's not nearly enough of an advantage to offset the disadvantages.

According to this page, there's only 4 BOINC projects currently using VirtualBox.
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Message 71226 - Posted: 2 Dec 2013 | 12:21:32 UTC

Thank you BOTH, I too was wondering the same thing!!

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