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Michael GoetzProject donor
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,719)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,179,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,330,821)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,253,904)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,067,903)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,042,681)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,680,461)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,009,313)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,162,350)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,877,196)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,036,953)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,426,791)
Message 68035 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013 | 23:50:04 UTC

At around 1609 UTC on Thursday, August 1st, PrimeGrid suffered an unrecoverable database crash which corrupted the BOINC database. We were unable to repair the database, or salvage the data.

We had to restore the database from last night's backup. The BOINC server was brought back on line at approximately 2120 UTC, with everything after the backup (at 0800 UTC) essentially having been erased.

This outage will have a number of unfortunate consequences. Any tasks returned between 0800 and 2120 have been lost, probably irrevocably.

If you downloaded any new tasks between 0800 and 1609, you should abort them; the system no longer knows about those tasks and will reject the results when you return them. There's no point in continuing to process them.

Furthermore, it's possible that result files from tasks sent between 0800 and 2120, which are now "zombie" tasks, might stop the "real" tasks sent out after 2120 from being accepted.

At this point, it's not clear if we can do anything about any of those problems. Eventually, the system will right itself and make sure all candidates get processed correctly, but for individuals, it means that credit for some tasks already processed, some tasks currently being processed, and some tasks that will be processed in the near future may not be awarded. We're discussing what can be done about this; I'm thinking we'll do some sort of bulk credit award, but we're not yet close to a decision or a plan.

Unfortunately, it's not just credit. A far worse problem is that there may be problems with prime discoveries being lost.

We apologize for the inconvenience and wasted crunching.

Really special thanks go out to JimB for fixing everything today.

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Message 68038 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013 | 23:55:51 UTC

PRPNet, and PSA credit, were not affected by this outage.
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,831)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,150)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,604)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,518)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,683)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (17,742)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,444)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (137,791)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (50,603)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,830)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,071,626)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (466,804,040)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,614)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (363,752)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,981)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,943,912)
Message 68041 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 2:42:34 UTC
Last modified: 2 Aug 2013 | 2:49:18 UTC

Yep, it isn't often I see my project & total scores rolled back by ~64K. But c'est la guerre.

Another symptom: I received a block of PPS (Sieve) resends of "lost" WUs that I had already returned. These had to be suspect, so I dumped them too. Hopefully they find their way back into the pool.

Many thanks to those involved in the quick recovery of what must have been a hideous mess.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,648)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,660)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (169,379)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (287,976)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (34,184)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (114,677)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (340,471)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,738,500)
Message 68045 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 4:13:37 UTC - in response to Message 68041.

I was looking at the properties of all of my prime grid wu's to see if I needed to abort any....there were a couple with a received date of 2006. I assume these are no good? pretty sure I wasnt crunching pg in 06

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,719)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,179,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,330,821)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,253,904)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,067,903)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,042,681)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,680,461)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,009,313)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,162,350)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,877,196)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,036,953)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,426,791)
Message 68046 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 4:21:19 UTC - in response to Message 68045.

I was looking at the properties of all of my prime grid wu's to see if I needed to abort any....there were a couple with a received date of 2006. I assume these are no good? pretty sure I wasnt crunching pg in 06


You should check the system clock on your computer.
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,012,870)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,082,029)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,011,269)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,083,369)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,009,004)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,239,755)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,141,973)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,118,449)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,482)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,013,150)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,062,629)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (287,262)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,770,881)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,578)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (358,387,525)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (534,142)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,036,773)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,002,664)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,052,904)
Message 68047 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 4:28:05 UTC

Well, it could have been worse. It could have happened during the challenge. :)
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,788)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (519,203)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,029,040)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,359,606)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,524,598)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (657,854)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (548,393)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,606,959)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (726,335)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (662,143)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,157,792)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,045,919)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,678,906)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,598,010)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,550,703)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (546,808)
Message 68052 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 8:56:36 UTC

Hmmm, That kinda sucks a bit. But those things happen. I'm afraid I have a few SoB WU's running now, which will not make me earn any credit, but that's life.

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,329)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,303)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (509,114)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (504,200)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (507,075)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,126)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,094)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,271)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (513,670)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (744,531)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (40,310,636)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,181)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,008,895)
Message 68053 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 9:42:31 UTC

I'm running 8 lots of PSP for 33 hours (25% done). Would these be still good to keep running?

My lucky number: 429*2^1301821+1

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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,512)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,583,912)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,675,988)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,040,179)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,087)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,016,050)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,969,959)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,107)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,857,523)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,109,367)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,123,401)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,969,265)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,094)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,368,787)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,001,345)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,224,085)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,288,965)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,205,178)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,667,335)
Message 68054 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 9:43:04 UTC - in response to Message 68052.

i've lost one finished SOB, grrrrrr

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,329)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,303)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (509,114)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (504,200)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (507,075)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,126)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,094)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,271)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (513,670)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (744,531)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (40,310,636)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,181)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,008,895)
Message 68055 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 10:00:10 UTC - in response to Message 68054.

That is annoying. I returned 8 * SOBs about 4 days ago. And from looking at the work units, 6 of those were running on computers that received them at the same time I did - and may have returned them yesterday.

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Message 68059 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 12:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 68052.

Hmmm, That kinda sucks a bit. But those things happen. I'm afraid I have a few SoB WU's running now, which will not make me earn any credit, but that's life.


If you downloaded those tasks between 0800 and 2120 UTC yesterday, it's not just "not getting credit"; there's no point to continuing the calculations and they should be aborted. The results will be ignored altogether and you're wasting time and electricity for no reason at all.

You can look at your task list on the webpages here, and if the server doesn't list the tasks on your computer, you should abort those tasks.


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Message 68060 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 13:01:58 UTC - in response to Message 68053.

I'm running 8 lots of PSP for 33 hours (25% done). Would these be still good to keep running?

My lucky number: 429*2^1301821+1


If they were downloaded before 0800 UTC yesterday, or after 2120 UTC yesterday, then yes, you should continue crunching them. If they were downloaded between 0800 UTC and 2120 yesterday, you should abort them.


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Message 68061 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 13:04:50 UTC - in response to Message 68047.

Well, it could have been worse. It could have happened during the challenge. :)


That would have been a little bit worse, yes.

This time last year, the server apparently wasn't doing backups at all. The latest backup was several months old. That would have been a whole lot worse.
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Message 68064 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 14:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 68060.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.

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Message 68065 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 14:53:06 UTC - in response to Message 68064.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.


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Message 68067 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 15:09:22 UTC
Last modified: 2 Aug 2013 | 15:11:30 UTC

Update:

We are in the process of forcing tasks into the "completed" state if there's a result file in the server's upload directory.

For people who returned results during the outage period yesterday which were downloaded from the server prior to yesterday's backup, and therefore lost the credit granted for those results, this should restore that credit.

This will have some minor side effects. You may notice that you get errors when reporting a completed task back to the server, but when looking at the server, the task is complete. Don't worry about that.

EDIT: Added the part about the task having to be downloaded prior to yesterday's backup.
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Message 68070 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 15:32:06 UTC - in response to Message 68065.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.



Ah yes - that is the problem. The genfer running on my pc right now is reported as completed. genefer_1048576_349155_0 or work unit 34614623

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Message 68071 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 15:46:10 UTC - in response to Message 68070.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.



Ah yes - that is the problem. The genfer running on my pc right now is reported as completed. genefer_1048576_349155_0 or work unit 34614623

sorry - work unit 346146423

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Message 68072 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 16:16:55 UTC - in response to Message 68071.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.



Ah yes - that is the problem. The genfer running on my pc right now is reported as completed. genefer_1048576_349155_0 or work unit 34614623

sorry - work unit 346146423


That task's result was uploaded to the server at 0858 yesterday, and therefore the record of that upload being reported as complete (if it was in fact reported) was lost in the crash.

Considering that it's impossible for that task to be computed in less than an hour, the download of the task had to have been before the backup, so the task was originally assigned to you. It was completed, and the result uploaded, yesterday. For whatever reason, your computer hasn't tried (or isn't able) to report the task as completed to the server. The server, however, knows that it's complete, most likely because it was forced to the complete state by the cleanup we just did.

When you say that this genefer is "in progress" on your computer, I presume you mean it's done (i.e., at 100%) but not yet reported to the server? It's not actually crunching right now, right?
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Message 68074 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 16:44:37 UTC - in response to Message 68072.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.



Ah yes - that is the problem. The genfer running on my pc right now is reported as completed. genefer_1048576_349155_0 or work unit 34614623

sorry - work unit 346146423


That task's result was uploaded to the server at 0858 yesterday, and therefore the record of that upload being reported as complete (if it was in fact reported) was lost in the crash.

Considering that it's impossible for that task to be computed in less than an hour, the download of the task had to have been before the backup, so the task was originally assigned to you. It was completed, and the result uploaded, yesterday. For whatever reason, your computer hasn't tried (or isn't able) to report the task as completed to the server. The server, however, knows that it's complete, most likely because it was forced to the complete state by the cleanup we just did.

When you say that this genefer is "in progress" on your computer, I presume you mean it's done (i.e., at 100%) but not yet reported to the server? It's not actually crunching right now, right?


Its crunching RIGHT NOW

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Message 68075 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 16:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 68074.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.



Ah yes - that is the problem. The genfer running on my pc right now is reported as completed. genefer_1048576_349155_0 or work unit 34614623

sorry - work unit 346146423


That task's result was uploaded to the server at 0858 yesterday, and therefore the record of that upload being reported as complete (if it was in fact reported) was lost in the crash.

Considering that it's impossible for that task to be computed in less than an hour, the download of the task had to have been before the backup, so the task was originally assigned to you. It was completed, and the result uploaded, yesterday. For whatever reason, your computer hasn't tried (or isn't able) to report the task as completed to the server. The server, however, knows that it's complete, most likely because it was forced to the complete state by the cleanup we just did.

When you say that this genefer is "in progress" on your computer, I presume you mean it's done (i.e., at 100%) but not yet reported to the server? It's not actually crunching right now, right?


Its crunching RIGHT NOW

I looked into the log file and found this:
2/08/2013 8:20:36 PM | PrimeGrid | Resent lost task genefer_1048576_349155_0
2/08/2013 8:20:39 PM | PrimeGrid | Starting task genefer_1048576_349155_0 using genefer version 205 (cudaGFN) in slot 1
That would be UTC 10:20 am 2/8/13 (if I have calculated that right)

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Message 68076 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 17:10:11 UTC - in response to Message 68067.

Update:

We are in the process of forcing tasks into the "completed" state if there's a result file in the server's upload directory.

For people who returned results during the outage period yesterday which were downloaded from the server prior to yesterday's backup, and therefore lost the credit granted for those results, this should restore that credit.

This will have some minor side effects. You may notice that you get errors when reporting a completed task back to the server, but when looking at the server, the task is complete. Don't worry about that.

EDIT: Added the part about the task having to be downloaded prior to yesterday's backup.

thanks for this
some of my lost wu's are still resent to my computers, one Genefer and one SoB.
should i abort this units, or couse this other problems?
i dont like to compute to much to waste

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Message 68077 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 17:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 68075.

Of the 8 PSP tasks - one was a little behind the others and when I looked up the tasks running now on the primegrid server it only had 7 PSP tasks running - so I aborted the 8th. I have a slight concern about the genefer task I am running right now which I downloaded less than 4 hours ago. It isn't listed in the tasks running now.


Check all the tasks one by one, checking by result name or result ID. Let me know which one is missing.

You should also check to see if the "missing" task is listed as "completed" in your task list.



Ah yes - that is the problem. The genfer running on my pc right now is reported as completed. genefer_1048576_349155_0 or work unit 34614623

sorry - work unit 346146423


That task's result was uploaded to the server at 0858 yesterday, and therefore the record of that upload being reported as complete (if it was in fact reported) was lost in the crash.

Considering that it's impossible for that task to be computed in less than an hour, the download of the task had to have been before the backup, so the task was originally assigned to you. It was completed, and the result uploaded, yesterday. For whatever reason, your computer hasn't tried (or isn't able) to report the task as completed to the server. The server, however, knows that it's complete, most likely because it was forced to the complete state by the cleanup we just did.

When you say that this genefer is "in progress" on your computer, I presume you mean it's done (i.e., at 100%) but not yet reported to the server? It's not actually crunching right now, right?


Its crunching RIGHT NOW

I looked into the log file and found this:
2/08/2013 8:20:36 PM | PrimeGrid | Resent lost task genefer_1048576_349155_0
2/08/2013 8:20:39 PM | PrimeGrid | Starting task genefer_1048576_349155_0 using genefer version 205 (cudaGFN) in slot 1
That would be UTC 10:20 am 2/8/13 (if I have calculated that right)


That's interesting. I honestly don't know what to tell you. If you do nothing, the task will crunch on your machine for the second time, and when it's done, I'm not 100% sure what will happen. At best, you'll have done 200% of the crunching and receive 100% of the credit. Worst case scenario is you'll do 200% crunching and get 0% credit. Or you could abort the task, having done 100% of the crunching (plus whatever amount of crunching you've done on this second time), and you'll either get 0% or 100% of the credit.

I really am not sure what the server's going to do in both situations.

If this were me, where curiosity would overpower the credit, I'd abort it just to see what happens, and not worry so much about the credit.

I suspect that disconnecting from PrimeGrid and then reconnecting will put everything in the correct state, but A) you would lose any legitmate PrimeGrid tasks that are in progress, and B) this is a guess on my part, and I could be wrong.

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Message 68078 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 17:35:02 UTC - in response to Message 68076.

Update:

We are in the process of forcing tasks into the "completed" state if there's a result file in the server's upload directory.

For people who returned results during the outage period yesterday which were downloaded from the server prior to yesterday's backup, and therefore lost the credit granted for those results, this should restore that credit.

This will have some minor side effects. You may notice that you get errors when reporting a completed task back to the server, but when looking at the server, the task is complete. Don't worry about that.

EDIT: Added the part about the task having to be downloaded prior to yesterday's backup.

thanks for this
some of my lost wu's are still resent to my computers, one Genefer and one SoB.
should i abort this units, or couse this other problems?
i dont like to compute to much to waste


This sounds like the same scenario as in the last post I answered, so the asnwer should be the same. That answer was, in short, "I'm not sure."

This is why we're discussing some sort of bulk-compensation (i.e., extra credits) to make up for anything people have lost, or will lose, because of the crash. The database is not exactly in sync with the host computers, and unexpected behavior is likely.
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Message 68079 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 17:44:28 UTC - in response to Message 68078.
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thanks, now is see, and think i have to by new glasses ;-)

in boinc-mgr go to projects - primegrid - klick 'update'
tasks which are sent in the critical time, or which results are uploaded and resent became 'aborted by project'
but please take a look at this wu http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=344814565
the result from hostid=373182 is defenetly not worth 29k
stderr.txt:
cuda_subs.cu(191) : cudaSafeCall() Runtime API error : no CUDA-capable device is detected.
edit: all it's other Genfer-tasks are labled with 'computation error'

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Message 68080 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 17:56:10 UTC

Good backups, a must - Good job!

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Message 68081 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 19:00:18 UTC

I had a whole load of completed tasks aborted by server even though they were allocated on 2nd August.

Not sure I understand, as they were given after the time of the crash ....
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Message 68082 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013 | 21:54:08 UTC

the result from hostid=373182 is defenetly not worth 29k


Indeed. What happened here is that this task was sent to two computers, once before the crash, and once after the crash. It's likely the computer that got the task before the crash successfully completed the task and returned the result. The second computer failed, however, the second one is the one currently in the database, so it gets credit for having returned a correct result, even though it's the other computer that actually did the calculation.

I had a whole load of completed tasks aborted by server even though they were allocated on 2nd August.

Not sure I understand, as they were given after the time of the crash ....


More unfortunate side effects from the crash. I have said that the effects of the crash will affect some tasks sent after the recovery. This will happen when these tasks are duplicating tasks sent out during the critical period between the backup and the recovery.


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Message 68096 - Posted: 3 Aug 2013 | 16:59:47 UTC

For those concerned, mentioned bulk-adaptation has happened about Aug 2 14:17 UTC. It looks like this -- ridiculous run time, no stderr.

(Irrelevant log entries trimmed, times in UTC; Just in order to cleanup my name.)


--
01-Aug-2013 10:26:43 [PrimeGrid] Computation for task llr_sob_71259008_2 finished
--
01-Aug-2013 13:32:42 [PrimeGrid] [fxd] starting upload, upload_offset 0
01-Aug-2013 13:32:42 [PrimeGrid] Started upload of llr_sob_71259008_2_0
01-Aug-2013 13:32:42 [PrimeGrid] [file_xfer_debug] URL: http://www.primegrid.com/cgi/file_upload_handler
--
01-Aug-2013 13:32:45 [PrimeGrid] [file_xfer_debug] FILE_XFER_SET::poll(): http op done; retval 0
01-Aug-2013 13:32:45 [PrimeGrid] [file_xfer_debug] parsing upload response: <data_server_reply>
<status>0</status>
</data_server_reply>
01-Aug-2013 13:32:45 [PrimeGrid] [file_xfer_debug] parsing status: 0
--
01-Aug-2013 13:32:45 [PrimeGrid] [file_xfer_debug] file transfer status 0
01-Aug-2013 13:32:45 [PrimeGrid] Finished upload of llr_sob_71259008_2_0
01-Aug-2013 13:32:45 [PrimeGrid] [file_xfer_debug] Throughput 60 bytes/sec
--
01-Aug-2013 13:33:22 [PrimeGrid] Sending scheduler request: Requested by project.
01-Aug-2013 13:33:22 [PrimeGrid] Reporting 1 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
01-Aug-2013 13:33:30 [PrimeGrid] Scheduler request completed


About 1800UTC I've tried to check in progress tasks (in order to abort those SOBs that blow timeout) and got "Connection refused". I was scared.

And, kudos, guys! It's very different comparing to that other church I've practised years ago.

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Message 68139 - Posted: 5 Aug 2013 | 5:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 68038.

Was there any chance that it was caused be a virus du to the credit erasure from past incursion?

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Message 68140 - Posted: 5 Aug 2013 | 5:18:39 UTC

I just aborted 3 long prime Grid

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Message 68143 - Posted: 5 Aug 2013 | 12:27:01 UTC - in response to Message 68139.

Was there any chance that it was caused be a virus du to the credit erasure from past incursion?


Absolutely no incursion, no virus, and no chance whatsoever of this being caused by anything like that.
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