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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 2 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,067,111)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,709,720)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,790,772)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,096,036)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,508,782)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,216,746)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,524,203)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,581,874)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,715,173)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,608)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,325,869)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,084,975)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,014,763)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,237,233)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,370,445)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (219,248,529)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (718,547)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,027,562)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (115,821,696)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (178,286,132)WW (retired) Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (500,248,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (221,782,985)
Message 66235 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013 | 2:35:56 UTC

Looking at the PPS Sv tasks I have pending validation, I noticed that even though we're set for 2 to validate, the task is only sent to 1 host initially, then to the 2nd once the first returns it. Is this correct? I would expect the initial distribution to at least match the minimum for validation.
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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,009,915)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,031,868)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,064,082)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,750)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,461)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,674,374)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (42,604,648)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,829,173)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,180,819)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,897,509)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,046,412)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,057,614)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,209,718)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,005,451)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,049,707)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,341,676)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,070,804)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,742,251)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,005,964)WW (retired) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,688,000)PSA Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (728,567,693)
Message 66244 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013 | 13:39:38 UTC - in response to Message 66235.

Looking at the PPS Sv tasks I have pending validation, I noticed that even though we're set for 2 to validate, the task is only sent to 1 host initially, then to the 2nd once the first returns it. Is this correct? I would expect the initial distribution to at least match the minimum for validation.

You are correct. The way that works is part of our reaction to the cheating a few people were doing on the PPS Sieving. We have a policy of not discussing our anti-cheating measures, though.

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 2 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,067,111)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,709,720)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,790,772)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,096,036)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,508,782)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,216,746)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,524,203)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,581,874)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,715,173)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,608)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,325,869)Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,084,975)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,014,763)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,237,233)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,370,445)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (219,248,529)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (718,547)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,027,562)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (115,821,696)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (178,286,132)WW (retired) Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (500,248,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (221,782,985)
Message 66313 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013 | 15:29:29 UTC - in response to Message 66244.

Oh, I know why the quorum of 2 is in place, I just expected them to go out at the same time. All good regardless.
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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,625)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,019,085)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,006,207)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,148,385)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,011,256)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,115,686)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,357,348)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,050,964)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,175,581)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,109,064)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,606,752)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,113,919)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,655,968)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,006,509)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (347,222,280)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,014,690)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,141,121)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,764,542)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,867,118)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,276,495)
Message 70131 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013 | 21:58:17 UTC

I thought that we were dc'ing all PPS sieves these days (after the cheats were discovered) but I've noticed a few I have returned and that are marked as valid only have quorum of one. Are we starting to trust again?
I understand that you are keeping your anti-cheating measures close to your chest so I'm not expecting a reply or explanation.
Regards,
Pete.

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The "Shut up already!" badge: This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times! Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,949,793)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,049,916)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,203,327)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,821,441)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,821,256)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,606,313)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,764,198)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,888,492)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,263,287)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (120,616,519)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,580,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,196,884)
Message 70133 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013 | 22:19:16 UTC - in response to Message 70131.

I thought that we were dc'ing all PPS sieves these days (after the cheats were discovered) but I've noticed a few I have returned and that are marked as valid only have quorum of one. Are we starting to trust again?
I understand that you are keeping your anti-cheating measures close to your chest so I'm not expecting a reply or explanation.
Regards,
Pete.


Nothing has changed. Not every WU is double checked, but there's plenty of anti-cheating mechanisms in place even with a quorum of 1.
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,348,762)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,847,854)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,930,159)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,103,192)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,722,905)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,128,030)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,229,931)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,872,840)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,189,371)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,498,979)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,762,363)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,161,962)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,200,994)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,778,375)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (341,182,563)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (300,675)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,033,600)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,817,407)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (58,238,431)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (53,328,000)
Message 70137 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013 | 7:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 70133.
Last modified: 18 Oct 2013 | 7:16:49 UTC

What does this (the 'disabled') mean, and how can I enable it again?

Proth Prime Search (Sieve) CPU, Nvidia (CUDA) (disabled), AMD/ATI (OpenCL) (disabled)

Can it have to do with my GTX 260 having died and replacing it with a GTX 650? I had no trouble receiving PPS Sieve WUs while the GTX 260 was still functioning, but soon after the switch to the GTX 650 WUs did not come anymore. Switched the box to other projects in the meanwhile.
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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,009,915)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,031,868)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,064,082)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,750)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,461)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,674,374)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (42,604,648)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,829,173)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,180,819)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,897,509)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,046,412)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,057,614)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,209,718)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,005,451)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,049,707)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,341,676)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,070,804)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,742,251)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,005,964)WW (retired) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,688,000)PSA Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (728,567,693)
Message 70139 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013 | 8:58:06 UTC - in response to Message 70137.

Disabled in this case means you didn't select a GPU checkbox at the top, so you can't select GPU subprojects.

Use NVIDIA GPU and/or
Use ATI GPU

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