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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (329,046)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (78,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,981,180)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,352,911)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (251,057)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,806,069)GFN Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,384)
Message 64604 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013 | 17:50:12 UTC

Please can you explain the TRP Sieve tasks I've been sent today
that look as though they will run for longer than 5 months!!!

I've aborted several on 2 different machines that are both set as CPU only
but I will try one out to see just what happens, task below is in progress.

e.g. TRP_2661966_2
Estimated size 38175065 GFLOPS
Est. run time 3782:15:05
Rec'd 25-04-13 - Report D'line 29-04-13...some hope!

Tasks up until today usually take 3.5 hours (ish).

Please advise, best regards
Dave.
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,227,348)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,624,591)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,269)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,751,038)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,718,606)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,963,361)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)WW Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,132,000)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (77,916,132)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 64607 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013 | 18:13:18 UTC - in response to Message 64604.

Estimated run times are currently very inaccurate. Try to ignore what BOINC is estimating unless the task is at least 50% completed. Otherwise, just multiply the percentage done by the elapsed time to get a fairly accurate estimate of how long it will take.
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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (329,046)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (78,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,981,180)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,352,911)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (251,057)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,806,069)GFN Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,384)
Message 64610 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013 | 18:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 64607.

Thanks, the task seems to be running okay,
time remaing running down at an amazing rate.

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Message 64611 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013 | 20:22:41 UTC

Yes - time to parade the streets with a big banner "BRING BACK DCF" :D!

Then again that might look a bit strange...

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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,334,077)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,010,955)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,439,418)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,501,906)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,697,006)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,184,417)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,120,365)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,234,440)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,201,403)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,628,223)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,061,985)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,027,534)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,370,919)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,372)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (129,430,775)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,083,315)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,629,248)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (56,876,924)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (286,079,854)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,556,062)
Message 64614 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013 | 22:46:27 UTC

I noticed this also today. Boinc estimates 3500 hours to complete! :)
They finish in a couple hours. :)
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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (547,769)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (158,867)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (162,534)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (134,373)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,012)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (266,757)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,560)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (242,439)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (508,989)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,123)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (229,801)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,317,221)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,147)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (333,494)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (24,117)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,730,320)
Message 64622 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013 | 7:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 64614.

I noticed this also today. Boinc estimates 3500 hours to complete! :)
They finish in a couple hours. :)


3500 hours would save a bit in internet costs!!!
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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (329,046)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (78,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,981,180)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,352,911)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (251,057)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,806,069)GFN Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,384)
Message 64625 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013 | 11:59:20 UTC

Unfortunately, it appears to screw up the work buffer though.
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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,334,077)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,010,955)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,439,418)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,501,906)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,697,006)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,184,417)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,120,365)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,234,440)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,201,403)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,628,223)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,061,985)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,027,534)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,370,919)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,372)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (129,430,775)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,083,315)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,629,248)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (56,876,924)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (286,079,854)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,556,062)
Message 64627 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013 | 15:12:15 UTC - in response to Message 64625.
Last modified: 26 Apr 2013 | 15:53:34 UTC

Unfortunately, it appears to screw up the work buffer though.

Yes this is very true. I'm only running this project on one of my computers so its not a big deal. But since they kick into high priority mode right away (EDIT: and stay that way until they are done) no other task will run. Something did change on the server side. Some are doing it and others are not so I'm thinking a value was changed on the newer work units.

EDIT: Or it's the new version of boinc that just came out, 7.0.65. <--I'm betting on this.
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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (329,046)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (78,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,981,180)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,352,911)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (251,057)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,806,069)GFN Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,384)
Message 64639 - Posted: 26 Apr 2013 | 23:09:45 UTC

Hate to do this but I'm now dumping any of these
tasks as they're really screwing things up here.
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Discovered 2 mega primesFound 4 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,712)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,025,728)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,268,884)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,020,580)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,320,024)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,758,954)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,261,839)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,860,185)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,639,744)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,531)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,671,435)321 Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,019,388)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (265,102,350)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (547,992,812)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,801,812)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (61,332,310)WW Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (369,864,000)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (321,018,330)
Message 64647 - Posted: 27 Apr 2013 | 7:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 64639.

Michael has put a temporary fix in so the tasks are reporting correct times again.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (164,598)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (222,603)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,450,810)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (530,762)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (612,889)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (323,056)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,532)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (228,636)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (356,309)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (244,201)PPS Sieve Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,019,168,073)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,370,979)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,952,946)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,531,907)
Message 65090 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 4:48:54 UTC - in response to Message 64647.

Michael has put a temporary fix in so the tasks are reporting correct times again.


This fix is not working for me. On the machine I am posting this from, the cuda tasks report an initial completion time of 11 hours, but actually finish in 50 minutes. The initial times do not reduce as I report more results.

Could be a BOINC problem.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (164,598)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (222,603)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,450,810)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (530,762)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (612,889)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (323,056)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,532)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (228,636)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (356,309)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (244,201)PPS Sieve Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,019,168,073)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,370,979)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,952,946)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,531,907)
Message 65091 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 4:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 64647.

Michael has put a temporary fix in so the tasks are reporting correct times again.


This fix is not working for me. On the machine I am posting this from, the cuda tasks report an initial completion time of 11 hours, but actually finish in 50 minutes. The initial times do not reduce as I report more results.

Could be a BOINC problem.

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Discovered 1 mega primeEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Discovered 1 twin prime321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,405)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,734,854)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,421,149)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,576,209)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,389,837)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,425,342)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,628)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,248,659)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,878,856)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,106)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,400,237)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,000,977)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,843,367)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,673,438)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,473,750)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,243,608)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,531,383)WW Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,012,000)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (202,192,765)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,042,125)
Message 65093 - Posted: 8 May 2013 | 9:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 65091.

This fix is not working for me. On the machine I am posting this from, the cuda tasks report an initial completion time of 11 hours, but actually finish in 50 minutes. The initial times do not reduce as I report more results.

Could be a BOINC problem.

It is a BOINC problem because GPU is still not calculated separately from the CPU, so it shows approximately CPU time. Another issue BOINC has is it creates a single Duration Correction Factor per project. Since PrimeGrid has a lot of subprojects under it, it's harder to keep the corrected times spot on for everything.

That's why the backend calculators were made. It still won't show correctly for GPU because again there is only one correction per subproject, currently.

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