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Message 58610 - Posted: 22 Oct 2012 | 23:22:21 UTC

Greetings! I have a dual-core computer that only does PG work that isn't behaving correctly. Right now, I have a SoB WU that just started, taking up the resources of one core, and a Riesel Sieve WU that is just finishing up that used the second core. Now, I have my prefs set to communicate every .1 day, keep on hand 5 days' worth of work, and to use 100% of the cores available for my computer (I even set the max number of cores to 11 just to make sure that everything was being used). My Tasks tab only has the two WUs I mentioned above, no more WUs waiting in the wings for my computer to crunch when the Riesel WU finishes.

Now, for some reason, my computer doesn't request new work. I don't know why. I've tweaked everything I can that could possibly affect this (other than going into the override file) and nothing is forcing my CPU to get more WUs. I'm wanting my computer to crunch the SoB WU on one core and a bunch of shorter WUs on the other core at the same time, and it hasn't been able to do this for almost a year (I'm finally trying to deal with this now). I currently have 6.4.7; I don't know if updating BOINC would fix this, but I don't want to do that until SoB is finished.

Any thoughts?
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Message 58617 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012 | 5:54:13 UTC
Last modified: 23 Oct 2012 | 5:54:20 UTC

How long before your SoB is finished?

I would disable network in BOINC (so it doesn't report anything), backup and update your BOINC client to recent version in first place. This is a safe method to revert if anything goes wrong without trashing work in progress.

Is it number of cores of % of cores?

Any other projects attached?

Maybe you have your computer turned on only sometimes (not 24/7), BOINC gets little CPU and it thinks it can't finish SoB in time.
In client_state.xml, what are the number in <on_frac> and <active_frac>? Close to 1.0?
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Message 58620 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012 | 10:40:09 UTC - in response to Message 58617.

I would set "no new work" and wait until the SoB finishes before trying anything such as backing up the BOINC installation and upgrading. You don't want to accidentally kill the SoB.

Even if you back up the files on your computer, if the server thinks the SoB is dead, it's dead.
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Message 58623 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012 | 11:21:51 UTC - in response to Message 58610.
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if you manually update the project do you get new work? What does your logfile say?

Are you checking your processor preferences in the client or on the server?

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Message 58633 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012 | 20:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 58617.
Last modified: 23 Oct 2012 | 20:53:55 UTC

How long before your SoB is finished?


About 240 hours. It just started, so it's going to be a looooonnnng time!


Is it number of cores of % of cores?


I have two cores that I've set to work on a maximum at 100% of the time. My computer only has the two cores.

Any other projects attached?


Yes, I also have Einstein, but haven't done anything with it on this computer for a very long time. I keep it on hand in case PG is completely down.

Maybe you have your computer turned on only sometimes (not 24/7), BOINC gets little CPU and it thinks it can't finish SoB in time.


Very true, this is my work laptop, which is typically on only about 4 hours each day. However, whenever I do SoB or Cullen/Woodall, I usually leave my computer on at least once overnight to let it get some "real" work done and try to make it by the deadline. But, a single WU can't be crunched on multiple cores, so I would think that PG (or BOINC) would want to utilize as many computer resources as it can by crunching as many WUs as possible.

In client_state.xml, what are the number in <on_frac> and <active_frac>? Close to 1.0?


Here's that part of the file:
-<time_stats> <on_frac>0.215107</on_frac> <connected_frac>0.711563</connected_frac> <active_frac>0.867366</active_frac> <last_update>1351024703.456999</last_update> </time_stats>
So, no, it's not close to 1.0. I don't know what this means.

I also have this in my cc_config file, which my wrapper doesn't know what to do with:
-<options> <ncpus>2</ncpus> <use_all_cpus>1</use_all_cpus> </options>

if you manually update the project do you get new work? What does your logfile say?


No. Here are excerpts from my logfile from yesterday:
22-Oct-2012 15:27:07 [PrimeGrid] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
22-Oct-2012 15:27:12 [PrimeGrid] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
22-Oct-2012 16:10:47 [PrimeGrid] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
22-Oct-2012 16:10:52 [PrimeGrid] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
22-Oct-2012 16:42:39 [PrimeGrid] Computation for task TRP_sieve_2300151_1 finished
22-Oct-2012 16:42:41 [PrimeGrid] Started upload of TRP_sieve_2300151_1_0
22-Oct-2012 16:42:43 [PrimeGrid] Finished upload of TRP_sieve_2300151_1_0
22-Oct-2012 16:42:47 [PrimeGrid] Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
22-Oct-2012 16:42:53 [PrimeGrid] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

It never tells me why. That could be because I have an older wrapper, and I understand the newer versions of BOINC also gives reasons for any errors.

Are you checking your processor preferences in the client or on the server?


I was doing it mostly through the client, but I checked it on PG's server yesterday, and it was showing quite different amounts than what I had locally. I changed both versions yesterday so that they were the same, and I still don't have anything new.

Thanks for all your help!
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Message 58635 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012 | 21:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 58633.

How long before your SoB is finished?


About 240 hours. It just started, so it's going to be a looooonnnng time!


In that case, go ahead an try updating your BOINC client. If you just started the SoB then there's not much to lose if it gets killed by accident.

I also have this in my cc_config file, which my wrapper doesn't know what to do with:
-<options> <ncpus>2</ncpus> <use_all_cpus>1</use_all_cpus> </options>


If that's all you have in cc_config.xml, go ahead and delete the cc_config.xml file. You shouldn't be using the <ncpus> tag for normal operations. (It's designed for BOINC developers to simulate CPUs with different number of cores than what their actual hardware consists of.)
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Message 58651 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012 | 20:22:34 UTC

Thanks, Michael. Uninstalling the old wrapper & installing the brand-spanking-new one did the trick. Uninstalling took a bit longer because the uninstaller couldn't find the .msi file, where the BOINC message boards helped me out. But now I'm all good, the SoB workunit wasn't lost (yay!), and I have about a dozen new Sophie Germain WUs to keep my second core happy.

I did end up deleting the cc_config file while I was at it. It may have helped with this issue as well, I'll never know.

Thanks so much, too, Honza & sheridan. It takes a small village to find out the problems, sometimes.
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Message 58652 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012 | 20:40:21 UTC - in response to Message 58651.

Awesome! Happy crunching, and good luck!
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