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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,788)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (519,203)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,029,040)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,359,606)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,524,598)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (657,854)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (548,393)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,606,959)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (726,335)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (662,143)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,157,792)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,045,919)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,678,906)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,598,010)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,550,703)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (546,808)
Message 55940 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 12:12:19 UTC

I have GFN running on my CPU's, but am I correct in thinking that I am just sieving at the moment and won't be able to find primes on my CPU? The reasons why I am asking is:

* There is no wingman checking these WU's
* The stats page doesn't feature a "primes found" line.

Since I am running PG to find primes, I guess it will be wiser to move to one of the LLR projects?
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,009,885)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,440,123)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,008,511)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,389,215)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,080,442)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,143,918)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,853,162)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,344,963)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,140,037)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,130,355)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,038,617)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,643,348)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,717)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,298,244)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,346,536)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,125,451)
Message 55945 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 13:46:12 UTC

Your assumption is wrong, GFN (in BOINC) is primetesting. The trick is though that it doesn't absolutely proves it is prime. It shows it only with near certainty, not complete certainty. However, if you do find an almost certainly prime it will be verified by PG and you will get the credit for it if it really is prime. (Chances of that not happening are astronomically small)
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,788)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (519,203)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,029,040)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,359,606)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,524,598)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (657,854)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (548,393)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,606,959)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (726,335)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (662,143)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,157,792)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,045,919)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,678,906)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,598,010)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,550,703)PSA Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (546,808)
Message 55946 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 13:46:53 UTC - in response to Message 55945.

Great. Thanks for explaining! :)
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,949,793)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,049,916)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,203,327)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,601,737)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,821,256)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,383,116)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,764,198)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,888,492)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,318,698)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (120,616,519)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,580,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,196,884)
Message 55947 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 13:53:19 UTC - in response to Message 55940.

GFN searches for primes. Two huge primes were found last week -- the two largest primes ever found at PrimeGrid and the 11th and 12th largest ever found anywhere. So yes, we most definitely find primes with GFN.

You absolutely should have a wingman on every GFN work unit. If you don't, please post a link to the task or work unit and I'll look into it.
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Message 55953 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 19:20:51 UTC

341112^524288+1

This is the only one I'm seeing in the top 5000. Where's the other one?

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Discovered the World's First base 116 Generalized Cullen prime!!!Discovered 100 mega primesEliminated 7 conjecture "k"sDiscovered 1 Sophie Germain pairDiscovered 3 Fermat divisors2012 Tour de Primes highest prime count2012 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2015 Tour de Primes highest prime count2016 Tour de Primes highest prime countFound 23 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage2019 Tour de Primes highest prime countFound 22 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes2020 Tour de Primes highest prime scoreFound 21 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 4 mega primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 8 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 21 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage2023 Tour de Primes highest prime count2023 Tour de Primes highest prime scoreFound 100 primes in the 2023 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2023 Tour de PrimesFound 9 primes in the 2023 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (247,666,960)Cullen LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (227,849,353)ESP LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (222,086,383)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (270,311,256)PPS LLR Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,448,728,472)PSP LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (242,373,913)SoB LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (231,743,779)SR5 LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (246,136,439)SGS LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (255,318,610)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (235,439)TRP LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (286,900,365)Woodall LLR Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (229,259,795)321 Sieve (suspended) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (235,451,253)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,012,323,871)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (285,139,652)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (4,130,353,463)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (203,523,358)TRP Sieve (suspended) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (201,489,157)AP 26/27 Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (729,966,185)GFN Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (3,022,125,014)WW (retired) Double Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000,000 credits (6,025,724,000)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (259,058,048)
Message 55954 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 19:41:50 UTC - in response to Message 55953.
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341112^524288+1

This is the only one I'm seeing in the top 5000. Where's the other one?



Other one was found a few days after the one you note, so it is going through verification (remember that Genefer applications only PRP test, so either LLR or PFGW are needed to verify). Also, for the second one the prime finder has not yet responded to contacts so that all information can be properly put into the top 5000 submission, official announcement, etc.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2023 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,949,793)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,946)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,150,009)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (24,049,916)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,203,327)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,601,737)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,821,256)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,383,116)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,308,522)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,390,624)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,764,198)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,888,492)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,318,698)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (120,616,519)WW (retired) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (88,580,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,196,884)
Message 55955 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012 | 21:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 55954.

Other one was found a few days after the one you note, so it is going through verification (remember that Genefer applications only PRP test, so either LLR or PFGW are needed to verify). Also, for the second one the prime finder has not yet responded to contacts so that all information can be properly put into the top 5000 submission, official announcement, etc.


The verification on both finished 2 or 3 days ago. At this point the delay is due only to being unable to contact the person who found it.
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