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Message 55749 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012 | 20:59:34 UTC

I'm currently running some CPU Genefer WU as part of the challenge.

I have an i7 that is running BOINC 6.12.34 on Windows 2008 Server that is set to NOT allow computing while the machine is in use.

The PG-Genefer WU's do not pause when start using the machine, BOINC thinks they are paused, but a check with Task Manager shows that the 6 WUs are still using CPU.

The GeneferCUDA WU's, however do pause.

WU from other projects that have been running do stop using the CPU when the machine is in use.

Stopping the BOINC client does cause the running processes to go away, but I have seen the CPU pegged because BOINC restarted some other projects instead of the PG Genefer units.

I'm planning to upgrade the BOINC client to the v7 stream but just thot folks would want to know about this issue.
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Message 55753 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012 | 21:18:06 UTC

Upgrading to BOINC 7.0.25 won't solve your problem. GFN CPU is the only project I think I've ever seen this behavior.
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Message 55757 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012 | 22:30:19 UTC

For me it does suspend properly, if I uncheck BOINC's "Leave apps in memory" option.
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Message 55758 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012 | 22:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 55753.

Upgrading to BOINC 7.0.25 won't solve your problem. GFN CPU is the only project I think I've ever seen this behavior.



I think that might be caused by Boinc's "panic mode". Usually, Boinc thinks that genefers will take hundreds of hours to complete, way beyond the deadline, so it keeps crunching them even if suspended, unless boinc client is restarted. I've seen that happen with other wu's, from different projects (Einstein@home, I think).
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Message 55759 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012 | 22:42:04 UTC

Hmm, that's a daft feature. Guestimated time left is totally within the deadline. 1 to 2 days left on a 6th of July deadline. So it shouldn't be going crazy over it, now should it?
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Message 55767 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012 | 3:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 55758.

Upgrading to BOINC 7.0.25 won't solve your problem. GFN CPU is the only project I think I've ever seen this behavior.



I think that might be caused by Boinc's "panic mode". Usually, Boinc thinks that genefers will take hundreds of hours to complete, way beyond the deadline, so it keeps crunching them even if suspended, unless boinc client is restarted. I've seen that happen with other wu's, from different projects (Einstein@home, I think).


No, it's not panic or high priority mode, since BOINC believes the WU is suspended due to computer use. It's just that the WU doesn't suspend when told to do so.
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Message 55771 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012 | 6:51:40 UTC - in response to Message 55767.

Possibly it could be caused by the 'normal' process priority in stead of the low priority.
I'm not running a CPU task, but the Genefer GPU-task is running with the 'normal' priority, which is atypical for BOINC-processes.

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Message 55772 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012 | 8:51:32 UTC - in response to Message 55771.

Possibly it could be caused by the 'normal' process priority in stead of the low priority.
I'm not running a CPU task, but the Genefer GPU-task is running with the 'normal' priority, which is atypical for BOINC-processes.


Are you certain Genefx64 is running at normal priority? It shouldn't do that; it should be at idle priority like all other CPU apps. Only GPU apps should be at normal priority (so they CPU can keep the GPU fed.)

If so, what OS are you using and what version of BOINC? And if you're using app_info, what version of Genefer are you running?
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Message 55773 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012 | 9:06:38 UTC
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Actually whatever dist. your are using whether it is Linux, Mac or Windows BOINC tasks are on a very low priority. In Linux the very low priority is nice: 19 on windows it depends on what task manager you use whether it is the default for 3rd party it depends, I use cmd for task manager so it code is -19 usually on Win systems on Mac I don't know. Hope that solves the priorities. As for it not suspending that is because it is kept in memory and the cpu thinks it still needs crunching where it is on suspend. The gpu tasks suspend due to the fact once the mouse starts moving or something similar action the gpu is directed at rendering your desktop and not on CUDA tasks/workunits. From the logs he is using version 1.07

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Message 55788 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012 | 12:44:18 UTC - in response to Message 55772.

Are you certain Genefx64 is running at normal priority? It shouldn't do that; it should be at idle priority like all other CPU apps. Only GPU apps should be at normal priority (so they CPU can keep the GPU fed.)

If so, what OS are you using and what version of BOINC? And if you're using app_info, what version of Genefer are you running?

As I said: I'm not running Genefer CPU's, but only GPU.
So the 'normal' priority for a GPU-task is OK.
For other BOINC-projects I had to set the CPU-process to feed the GPU to normal by 'hand' (eFMer's Priority)
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Message 55811 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012 | 9:36:19 UTC

I have the same thing happening. Both my AMD 1100Ts and my AMD 970 with all 3 on different motherboards and memory. All 3 have BOINC 7.0.25 and Win 7 x64 bit OS. I've tried different priorities but it makes no difference.

Instead of restarting BOINC I go into Win 7s Resource Monitor and suspend each manually but you have to know the PID number. Resuming from it works fine as well (got to remember to resume in BOINC too).

Luckily I'm only running the CPU version for this challenge or this would be more than just a nuisance. The BOINC devs need to fix this, especially since it's happening on other projects as well as mentioned above by Usucapio Libertatis.

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Message 55862 - Posted: 25 Jun 2012 | 6:17:59 UTC

Hi computerguy09,

Not sure entirely what is happening here, but can you please upgrade to the latest BOINC client (7.0.x) and try again. If you can still recreate the problem here we'll investigate further.

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Message 55964 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012 | 12:10:20 UTC
Last modified: 28 Jun 2012 | 12:13:51 UTC

Hi, I've the same behavior with Boinc 6.12.33 on Win7 X64 4 Core

PrimGrid Genefer 1.07 is in Status waiting and ProcessExplorer shows that it's running with 100% on a Core.
Two other project results (of 4 with status running) are in status running use only 50% of the CPU time.
The Genefer 1.07 CPU App does not handle the status change of the boinc client correct.
I've seen this behavior already at the challenge.
There are 5 results running on my 4 Core CPU.
Please fix this.

Edit: The Process Priority is Idle (4) as expected
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Message 56067 - Posted: 3 Jul 2012 | 7:42:44 UTC

Well the best I can say is lower the priority to 1 or 2 and see what happens. If nothing happens terminate the process. I did it to Linux and it didn't affect it but I don't know.
Also in the setting is it checked to 'leave apps in memory after suspension' if it is then uncheck and in the 'Activity' menu use the option 'Run based on preferences.' that should stop the app from running.
If not then terminate one from Task Manager but at a rate of: one at a time. I don't know what will happen in Windows since I am Linux. But as I said it shouldn't cause a compute error. BUT just try one at a time terminate/end and see the result of that; if its causing a compute error then don't continue if it is stopping it then terminate all the remaining then instruct BOINC to 'resume' just as before one at a time.

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Message 56090 - Posted: 3 Jul 2012 | 20:18:00 UTC - in response to Message 56067.

Just to say I haven't forgotten this issue, but some 'real life' is getting between me and building a debug version for you. Hopefully in the next week...
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Message 56097 - Posted: 3 Jul 2012 | 21:24:10 UTC - in response to Message 56090.
Last modified: 3 Jul 2012 | 21:28:22 UTC

Iain -

You might want to hold off on that - Based on a quick Google search this problem seems to be affecting not only PG, but SETI, Rosetta, Docking and others!!

Search phrase was boinc not pausing suspended work units
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Message 56176 - Posted: 7 Jul 2012 | 1:51:50 UTC
Last modified: 7 Jul 2012 | 1:56:26 UTC

When I supspend Genefer(CPU), if keep running without stop
More infomation can found in the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=squTRKMNMdo
(sorry, i can't embed it)
System info:

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Message 56235 - Posted: 9 Jul 2012 | 14:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 56176.

Finally got to the bottom of this issue and have made a fix. In the process of creating new builds now and will release them to BOINC soon.

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Message 56570 - Posted: 17 Jul 2012 | 21:08:02 UTC - in response to Message 56235.

New builds containing the fix have been released, and I hope they will soon be available via BOINC.

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Message 59377 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012 | 9:55:34 UTC
Last modified: 11 Nov 2012 | 10:06:23 UTC

Were these new builds ever released?

I have just started running Genefer CPU work units as the 321 Blast Off challenge was winding down.
I found that if I suspend the Genefer Work Unit or if the BOINC Manager pauses/suspends the Genefer task to run another task then it just keeps going, not releasing the CPU.
This shares the CPU across more tasks than the number of CPU's which gives less than 100% to each task which means all tasks then slow down with the reduced CPU allocation.

I get it all working properly when I restart BOINC Client. This is annoying and I can't be doing that all the time.

I am using Linux Fedora 16 on a 64 bit build running BOINC Client version 6.10.58.

I mentioned this during the challenge in the 321 Blast Off challenge thread, but got no response.

Thanks

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Message 59388 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012 | 20:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 59377.

Hi, the new builds are still not live - sorry! Unfortunately we haven't been able to add any new apps (Genefer or LLR) for several months now :(

The workaround of unchecking the 'suspended apps remain in memory' box should still work for this problem.

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Message 59391 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012 | 22:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 59388.
Last modified: 11 Nov 2012 | 23:01:30 UTC

Hi, the new builds are still not live - sorry! Unfortunately we haven't been able to add any new apps (Genefer or LLR) for several months now :(

The workaround of unchecking the 'suspended apps remain in memory' box should still work for this problem.

Cheers

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Thanks Iain,

I will just finish what 321 work I have and do Genefer only till I reach at least a Silver badge, then I wont have the problem till I change Applications or projects.

I will be leaving the "remain in Memory" as it is, due to the other projects that I run.


Conan
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