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Message 48487 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 7:11:12 UTC
Last modified: 18 Feb 2012 | 17:58:39 UTC

If anyone would like to get started early building llr v3.8.7dev:

http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=288014#post288014

Support now for 64 bit platforms. It will be good to see time comparisons between 32 and 64 bit AND to see how this affects the AVX builds. NOTE: v3.8.7dev still comes with gwnum v26.5. To build for AVX, you'll need gwnum v27.2 (ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/source272.zip).

UPDATE: gwnum v27.3 (ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/source273.zip)

Please post your builds and any timing results in this thread.

Good Luck!

UPDATED: 18 FEB 2012

llr Non-AVX v3.8.7 w/gwnum v26.5
Windows 32 bit: llr387dev.zip by Jean
Windows 64 bit: cllr387dev-win-x64.7z (VS2005) by Michael or llr64bit-win (VS2010) by Rebirther
Linux 32 bit static: llr387devslinux.zip by Jean or sllr32_dev387.tar.bz2 by rroonnaalldd
Linux 64 bit static: sllr64_dev387.tar.bz2 by rroonnaalldd
MacIntel 32&64 bit: llr387devsrc.7z by Iain

llrAVX v3.8.7 w/gwnum 27.2
Windows 32 bit: llr32bit-AVX-win by Rebirther UPDATED to gwnum 27.3
Windows 64 bit: llr64bit-AVX-win by Rebirther UPDATED to gwnum 27.3
Linux 32 bit static: sllr32_dev387_gwnum273.tar.bz2 by rroonnaalldd UPDATED to gwnum 27.3
Linux 64 bit static: sllr64_dev387_gwnum273.tar.bz2 by rroonnaalldd UPDATED to gwnum 27.3
MacIntel 32&64 bit: llr387devsrc_avx.7z by Iain


Also available...from the AVX build of pfgw thread

pfgwAVX v3.6.0 w/gwnum 27.3
Windows 32 bit: pfgw3.6.0-AVX-32bit by Rebirther
Windows 64 bit: pfgw3.6.0-AVX-64bit by Rebirther
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Message 48500 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 12:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 48487.
Last modified: 2 Feb 2012 | 12:34:23 UTC

I built a 32-bit Linux AVX executable of LLR 3.8.7dev (using gwnum 27.2, of course). Runtimes are indistinguishable from 3.8.6 (any diff is less than 0.1%). I ran various triple and quadruple checks of known primes and non-primes from the command line using prpclient (short tests, like the low port and SGS). All residuals matched vs. the prior version.

I'm attempting to build a 64 bit version but am encountering difficulty. The linker complains about the 32-bit gwnum library, so I'm trying to build a 64-bit version of that, which fails, seemingly wanting a custom-built version of the curl library, at least according to comments in the makefile. Is this effort worth it? Comments on mersenneforum seemed to indicate a speed-up vs. 32-bit, but past history says 32-bit == 64-bit, speed-wise, for LLR.

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Message 48508 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 13:46:59 UTC - in response to Message 48500.

I'm attempting to build a 64 bit version but am encountering difficulty. The linker complains about the 32-bit gwnum library, so I'm trying to build a 64-bit version of that, which fails, seemingly wanting a custom-built version of the curl library, at least according to comments in the makefile. Is this effort worth it? Comments on mersenneforum seemed to indicate a speed-up vs. 32-bit, but past history says 32-bit == 64-bit, speed-wise, for LLR.


Until this new release of llr, llr could only be built as a 32-bit app. Now that a 64-bit llr can be built, it means that a 64-bit build of llr should be faster than a 32-bit build of llr.

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Eliminated 1 conjecture "k"Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (229,492)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (110,733)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,572,744)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,385)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,117)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (139,802)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,325,207)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (626,755)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,944)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,900)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,599)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (515,556)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,855,975)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (255,612)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,583,960)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,334,026)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,522,050)
Message 48509 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 13:49:20 UTC - in response to Message 48508.

Until this new release of llr, llr could only be built as a 32-bit app. Now that a 64-bit llr can be built, it means that a 64-bit build of llr should be faster than a 32-bit build of llr.

Waiting for that LLR :)
Linux or Windows version doesn't matter :)
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Message 48530 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 15:39:56 UTC - in response to Message 48509.
Last modified: 2 Feb 2012 | 15:43:39 UTC

Until this new release of llr, llr could only be built as a 32-bit app. Now that a 64-bit llr can be built, it means that a 64-bit build of llr should be faster than a 32-bit build of llr.

Waiting for that LLR :)
Linux or Windows version doesn't matter :)

This will not solve your problem on BD...
Detection and using a cpu-feature (AVX, SSE, MMX, x87) is a decision by the gwnum-lib.
If you want to have an AVX-app then you need the gwnum27.2-lib.

boinc@Lubuntu32:~/Cuda/llrCPU$ ./sllr_dev387_gwnum272 -d -q"30448908048555*2^666666-1"
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-1 FFT length 72K, Pass1=96, Pass2=768
Iter: 6/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Disregard last error. Result is reproducible and thus not a hardware problem.
For added safety, redoing iteration using a slower, more reliable method.
Continuing from last save file.
Iter: 6/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Unrecoverable error, Restarting with next larger FFT length...
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-3 FFT length 80K, Pass1=320, Pass2=256
Iter: 6/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Unrecoverable error, Restarting with next larger FFT length...
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-1 FFT length 84K, Pass1=112, Pass2=768
Iter: 6/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Unrecoverable error, Restarting with next larger FFT length...
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-3 FFT length 96K, Pass1=128, Pass2=768
Iter: 6/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Unrecoverable error, Restarting with next larger FFT length...
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-3 FFT length 112K, Pass1=448, Pass2=256
Iter: 5/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Iter: 5/45, ERROR: ROUND OFF (1) > 0.4
Continuing from last save file.
Unrecoverable error, Restarting with next larger FFT length...
Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle.



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boinc@Lubuntu32:~/Cuda/llrCPU$ ./sllr_dev387 -d -q"30448908048555*2^666666-1"
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-1 FFT length 72K, Pass1=96, Pass2=768
V1 = 5 ; Computing U0...done.Starting Lucas-Lehmer loop...
30448908048555*2^666666-1, iteration : 10000 / 666666 [1.50%]. Time per iteration : 1.281 ms.
30448908048555*2^666666-1, iteration : 20000 / 666666 [3.00%]. Time per iteration : 1.321 ms.
30448908048555*2^666666-1, iteration : 30000 / 666666 [4.50%]. Time per iteration : 1.256 ms.
^C
Caught signal. Terminating.

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Message 48535 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 16:01:39 UTC - in response to Message 48530.

boinc@Lubuntu32:~/Cuda/llrCPU$ ./sllr_dev387_gwnum272 -d -q"30448908048555*2^666666-1"
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Unrecoverable error, Restarting with next larger FFT length...
Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle.

Many posts ago (somewhere) it has been suggested that gwnum v27.2 might have problems with the large k in SGS. Therefore, that won't change until v27.2 is updated...regardless of 32 bit vs. 64 bit llr. :)
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Message 48539 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 16:25:15 UTC - in response to Message 48535.

Many posts ago (somewhere) it has been suggested that gwnum v27.2 might have problems with the large k in SGS. Therefore, that won't change until v27.2 is updated...regardless of 32 bit vs. 64 bit llr. :)


I asked George last week and he indicated that it will be a few weeks before gwnum v27.3 is ready.

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Message 48540 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 16:26:21 UTC

Made the comparison 'sllr64_dev387' vs 'sllr_dev387':

boinc@vmware2k-3:~/Cuda/test/llr-apps CPU$ ./sllr64_dev387 -d -q"30*2^400000+1"
Starting Proth prime test of 30*2^400000+1
Using all-complex Core2 type-1 FFT length 24K, Pass1=32, Pass2=768, a = 7
30*2^400000+1, bit: 10000 / 400004 [2.49%]. Time per bit: 0.334 ms.
30*2^400000+1, bit: 20000 / 400004 [4.99%]. Time per bit: 0.328 ms.
30*2^400000+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 703F8ACAB9634020 Time : 131.398 sec.

boinc@vmware2k-3:~/Cuda/test/llr-apps CPU$ ./sllr_dev387 -d -q"30*2^400000+1"
Starting Proth prime test of 30*2^400000+1
Using all-complex Core2 type-1 FFT length 24K, Pass1=32, Pass2=768, a = 7
30*2^400000+1, bit: 10000 / 400004 [2.49%]. Time per bit: 0.364 ms.
30*2^400000+1, bit: 20000 / 400004 [4.99%]. Time per bit: 0.358 ms.
30*2^400000+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 703F8ACAB9634020 Time : 143.432 sec.

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Message 48541 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 16:29:19 UTC
Last modified: 2 Feb 2012 | 16:36:21 UTC

3.8.7dev-AVX now available for win32, tested with PPSElow, 38sec on i5-2500k@4Ghz

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Message 48546 - Posted: 2 Feb 2012 | 17:06:49 UTC
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3.8.7dev-AVX for Intel and 3.8.7dev available for Linux32 and Linux64:

sllr32_dev387.7z
sllr32_dev387_avx.7z
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Message 48574 - Posted: 3 Feb 2012 | 5:03:13 UTC

I ran rroonnaalldd'ss Linux 64-bit AVX 3.8.7 build vs. the barely-a-month-old 3.8.6 AVX (32-bit) build. Any runtime difference I see is "in the noise"... far less than 1%, and sometimes 3.8.6 was faster. Basically, a tie, so far I as I've seen. This is with PPS Low and SGS; all residues matched.

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Message 49280 - Posted: 9 Feb 2012 | 18:51:56 UTC

It looks like I've been successful in building a 64-bit Windows version of 3.8.7.

So far I've done exactly one test with it, and it seems to be about 10% faster than the 32 bit version.

I'll make it available for testing once I've done a bit more testing with it.

This is NOT an AVX build.
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Message 49334 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 16:19:20 UTC

A Windows 64 bit build of LLR 3.8.7-dev can now be downlaoded here.

The source code is unchanged from what Jean Penne distributed in the 3.8.7. dev release.

The distribution file includes the executable (cllr.exe) as well as an app_info.xml file which contains entries for PPS-LLR and TRP-LLR. It should be usable, with the correct entries in app_info, with the other LLR projects. (There's also an entry in that app_info for GeneferCUDA.)

Note that this build of LLR can use the 32-bit Boinc wrapper without penalty. There's no need for a separate 64 bit wrapper.

This should also be usable with PRPNet, although I have not tested it.

This build should be usable on any 64 bit Intel or AMD CPU, although it will NOT make use of AVX instructions. It has only been tested so far on a single Core2Quad CPU, but the code is unchanged and I wouldn't expect there to be problems.

Note that there are some factoring features of LLR that do NOT build in the 64 bit windows version due to the source apparently being lost and only 32 bit object files being available. Therefore, a 32 bit build of LLR has slightly more functionality than the 64 bit build, but I don't believe that affects current projects on PRPNet or Boinc.
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Message 49359 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 19:07:49 UTC

Well, I've tested on i7-920 Win 2008 R2 x64 and it's about 10% slower comparing to stock app.

I'll try on i5-2500 running VMware (where AVX version has no use).

On another note - PG folder and slots are growing and growing - over 400MB.

I've manually cleaned and adjusted client_state or old apps can be deleted. I guess there is no need to have several LLR wrappers and several CLLR versions.

Too bad this x64 app can't be packed using UPX. Default app shrinks from 26 to 1MB.
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Well, I've tested on i7-920 Win 2008 R2 x64 and it's about 10% slower comparing to stock app.


That's definitely unexpected. It's about 12% faster on my computer (C2Q Q6600).

EDIT: regarding sizes, my boinc/www.primegrid.com directory is only about 75 MB, and only 1 file (the gcw sieve file) exists in more than one version.

Boinc IS supposed to delete old versions under certain circumstances. I don't know enough about the mechanics involved to guess why you might have so many obsolete files.
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Message 49361 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 19:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 49359.

I'll try on i5-2500 running VMware (where AVX version has no use).

VMware blocks or better masks enhanced CPU features only after a manual intervention (EVC).
This is sometimes needed for VMotion between hosts with different CPU features.
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Well, I've tested on i7-920 Win 2008 R2 x64 and it's about 10% slower comparing to stock app.


That's definitely unexpected. It's about 12% faster on my computer (C2Q Q6600).




Maybe the difference is due to Hyperthreading on the i7 if it is turned on given that the Q6600 doesn't have HT? LLR behaves not very well with HT in some cases.
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Message 49363 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 19:39:45 UTC - in response to Message 49360.
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Boinc IS supposed to delete old versions under certain circumstances. I don't know enough about the mechanics involved to guess why you might have so many obsolete files.

They still rott in client_state.xml file. I had to get rid of sieve files couple years ago, now it was time to eliminate old apps versions.

Slowing down on i7-920 may have something to do with Hyperthreading and x64.
I actually remember some highly-optimized apps actually being slower on server dual-Xeons with HT.
I have left stock app there packed with UPX and using app_info. Sounds quite complicated but it suits well: 8x26MBs vs 8x1.06MB makes a difference.

i5-2500 is faster. ~435 vs 400 secs. Goog job.
Will try some server Xeons...
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Message 49367 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 19:46:04 UTC - in response to Message 49361.

VMware blocks or better masks enhanced CPU features only after a manual intervention (EVC).
This is sometimes needed for VMotion between hosts with different CPU features.

Thanks, but I'm running "only" ESX/ESXi without vCenter etc.
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Message 49371 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 20:11:58 UTC

I suppose the slowdown could be due to more cache misses caused by moving more data around, but 10% seems like an awfully big drop for that -- especially considering that it would be offset by the speed gains from faster math.

If this is what's happening, then people may see wildly different results depending upon which specific CPU they're using AND how many cores are in use.

Which brings me to the next question: Can you repeat that test with all the other cores idle? If it is indeed a cache problem, running just one core may show a dramatic increase in speed relative to the 32 bit stock version.
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Message 49372 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 20:13:01 UTC - in response to Message 49362.

Maybe the difference is due to Hyperthreading on the i7 if it is turned on given that the Q6600 doesn't have HT? LLR behaves not very well with HT in some cases.

From experience - most likely.

I run only 3 cores on some quad-cored servers as I found (even) stock app slowing it down when all 4 cores we running.
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Message 49374 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 20:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 49371.
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Which brings me to the next question: Can you repeat that test with all the other cores idle? If it is indeed a cache problem, running just one core may show a dramatic increase in speed relative to the 32 bit stock version.


Sure.
cllrx64.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 556.670 sec.

cllrx86.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 558.832 sec.
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Message 49375 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 20:36:11 UTC - in response to Message 49363.

Boinc IS supposed to delete old versions under certain circumstances. I don't know enough about the mechanics involved to guess why you might have so many obsolete files.

They still rott in client_state.xml file. I had to get rid of sieve files couple years ago, now it was time to eliminate old apps versions.

Slowing down on i7-920 may have something to do with Hyperthreading and x64.
I actually remember some highly-optimized apps actually being slower on server dual-Xeons with HT.
I have left stock app there packed with UPX and using app_info. Sounds quite complicated but it suits well: 8x26MBs vs 8x1.06MB makes a difference.

i5-2500 is faster. ~435 vs 400 secs. Goog job.
Will try some server Xeons...

I also have not seen any of the improvement under Linux under 2 different hosts. Here I used rroonnaalldd's versions on a dual Xeon with HT off but turbo boost on. Here 2 out of 8 available cores were crunching so turbo boost should have been minor. I used one of my first primes:
$ time ./sllr32_dev387 -q"7791*2^482045+1" -d Starting Proth prime test of 7791*2^482045+1 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 10000 / 482057 [2.07%]. Time per bit: 0.446 ms. = 5 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 250000 / 482057 [51.86%]. Time per bit: 0.438 ms. 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 370000 / 482057 [76.75%]. Time per bit: 0.438 ms. 7791*2^482045+1 is prime! Time : 213.479 sec. real 3m33.629s user 3m33.015s sys 0m0.022s $ time ./sllr64_dev387 -q"7791*2^482045+1" -d Starting Proth prime test of 7791*2^482045+1 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 10000 / 482057 [2.07%]. Time per bit: 0.443 ms. = 5 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 130000 / 482057 [26.96%]. Time per bit: 0.447 ms. 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 250000 / 482057 [51.86%]. Time per bit: 0.443 ms. 7791*2^482045+1, bit: 370000 / 482057 [76.75%]. Time per bit: 0.449 ms. 7791*2^482045+1 is prime! Time : 214.500 sec. real 3m34.652s user 3m34.017s sys 0m0.015s


Yet same host, different example

$ time ./sllr64_dev387 -d -q"30*2^400000+1" Starting Proth prime test of 30*2^400000+1 30*2^400000+1, bit: 50000 / 400004 [12.49%]. Time per bit: 0.236 ms. = 7 30*2^400000+1, bit: 250000 / 400004 [62.49%]. Time per bit: 0.233 ms. 30*2^400000+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 703F8ACAB9634020 Time : 94.046 sec. real 1m34.182s user 1m33.909s sys 0m0.004s $ time ./sllr32_dev387 -d -q"30*2^400000+1" Starting Proth prime test of 30*2^400000+1 30*2^400000+1, bit: 40000 / 400004 [9.99%]. Time per bit: 0.237 ms.6, a = 7 30*2^400000+1, bit: 200000 / 400004 [49.99%]. Time per bit: 0.240 ms. 30*2^400000+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 703F8ACAB9634020 Time : 95.984 sec. real 1m36.127s user 1m35.829s sys 0m0.023s


But another host with HT on but 50% of cores used elsewhere:
$ time ./sllr32_dev387 -d -q"30*2^400000+1" Starting Proth prime test of 30*2^400000+1 Using all-complex Pentium4 type-1 FFT length 24K, Pass1=96, Pass2=256, a = 7 30*2^400000+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 703F8ACAB9634020 Time : 107.311 sec. real 1m47.500s user 1m46.547s sys 0m0.055s $ time ./sllr64_dev387 -d -q"30*2^400000+1" Starting Proth prime test of 30*2^400000+1 30*2^400000+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 703F8ACAB9634020 Time : 110.374 sec. real 1m50.562s user 1m49.464s sys 0m0.041s

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Message 49376 - Posted: 10 Feb 2012 | 21:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 49374.

Which brings me to the next question: Can you repeat that test with all the other cores idle? If it is indeed a cache problem, running just one core may show a dramatic increase in speed relative to the 32 bit stock version.


Sure.
cllrx64.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 556.670 sec.

cllrx86.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 558.832 sec.


Essentially the same speed with the other cores idle, but 10% slower when other programs are running. Cache usage is one possible cause of that behavior. Except that you're seeing no benefit at all from the 64 bit math. I can't explain that.

Here's my results, with the computer mostly idle (the GPU is running, but the CPU is not)

64bit:
cllr.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 8661*2^678147+1
Using all-complex Core2 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 648.074 sec.


32 bit stock app:
cllrx86.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 8661*2^678147+1
Using all-complex Core2 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 731.731 sec.


One thing to check that isn't visible in what you posted: make sure both programs are choosing the same FFT type.
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Message 49380 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 0:17:32 UTC

Jean Penne must own a DeLorean. I suspect the flux capacitor came from eBay.

Primality Testing of k*b^n+/-1 Program - PC/MacIntel Version 3.8.7 Using new Gwnum library (V26.6) and IBDWT for k's up to 22 bits (Copyright 1996-2011 Just For Fun Software, Inc. Author: George Woltman Email: xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Written : May 20010 by Jean Penne Email : xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Use -m on the command line and choose option 7. :)
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Message 49381 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 4:08:51 UTC - in response to Message 49376.

One thing to check that isn't visible in what you posted: make sure both programs are choosing the same FFT type.

Same FFT but I am rather suspicious of those Linux binaries.

Under windows, I do see a slight difference with your your binary vs PRPNet 5.05 windows binary with one other boinc Riesel WU running (no GPU WUs). So I am wondering if that is mainly compiler options and OS task scheduling since it is only about 97% of the time. Really all cores under Windows should be running at 100% to avoid OS issues.
>cllr_64.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d Starting Proth prime test of 8661*2^678147+1 Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7 8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 475.647 sec. >llr_prp5.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d Starting Proth prime test of 8661*2^678147+1 Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7 8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 487.332 sec.

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Message 49386 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 9:03:14 UTC - in response to Message 49376.

One thing to check that isn't visible in what you posted: make sure both programs are choosing the same FFT type.

Yes, I checked that earlier 'cause I had the same idea.

Now I remember I still have two Q9550 and that one is running Win x64, will try.
It has 6MB cache (unlike older Q with 4MB...or i7-920 with 8MB) which proved significant in some cases in the past.

cllrx64.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 493.501 sec.

cllrx86.exe -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 558.633 sec.
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Message 49389 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 10:10:43 UTC

Tested the 64 bit version with Win7 on an E350 processor.

llr Test>cllr -q"3117*2^314958+1" -d
Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle.

side note: the llr version supplied with the prpclient 5.0.5 produces the same error.

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Message 49390 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 11:50:41 UTC - in response to Message 49389.

Tested the 64 bit version with Win7 on an E350 processor.

llr Test>cllr -q"3117*2^314958+1" -d
Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle.

side note: the llr version supplied with the prpclient 5.0.5 produces the same error.

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So you're getting the same error with the 32 bit version, right?

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So you're getting the same error with the 32 bit version, right?


Yes, that is right.

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Message 49394 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 13:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 49393.


So you're getting the same error with the 32 bit version, right?


Yes, that is right.


I'm not running 5.0.5, so I'm not sure which version of llr that is. What does "llr -v" show on the stock app? Is it 3.8.7 or 3.8.6? If it's 3.8.7, try running 3.8.6 from PRPNet 5.0.4. If you're having the same same problem with 3.8.6 then... Oh, let's step back a bit...

What's an E350?

FWIW, here's that WU on Core2:

C:\GeneferCUDA test\From others\llr 3.8.7 dev\64\llr387devsrc>llr\cllr___Win64_Release\cllr -q"3117*2^314958+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 3117*2^314958+1
Using all-complex Core2 type-1 FFT length 24K, Pass1=32, Pass2=768, a = 7
3117*2^314958+1 is not prime. Proth RES64: 4E6DB6FACE0861F5 Time : 120.099 sec.


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Message 49395 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 13:37:09 UTC
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An Zacate E350 is a dual core cpu from AMD with 1,6 GHz clock, an integrated gpu on chip and a tdp of 18 watts. Its not fast, but enough for a home computer. I didn't mention my original post in

http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3350&nowrap=true#48082

sorry for that. The stock llr test doesn't run in version 3.8.6 and 3.8.7. BUT the avxllr version DOES run and the E350 has no avx built in.

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Message 49399 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 14:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 49395.

An Zacate E350 is a dual core cpu from AMD with 1,6 GHz clock, an integrated gpu on chip and a tdp of 18 watts. Its not fast, but enough for a home computer. I didn't mention my original post in

http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3350&nowrap=true#48082

sorry for that. The stock llr test doesn't run in version 3.8.6 and 3.8.7. BUT the avxllr version DOES run and the E350 has no avx built in.

Andy


I'm guessing you can't do BOINC LLR tasks on that either, correct? (At least without using app_info to run the avx build).

Question for Mark: Do you know if George is aware of this problem? If not, what's the best place for reporting this? It would seem to be a gwnum issue.
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Message 49402 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 14:56:48 UTC - in response to Message 49394.

I'm not running 5.0.5, so I'm not sure which version of llr that is.

The PRPNet Update 5.0.5 thread lists what's in the package. Additionally, the readme files in the programs folder identify what version each build is. :)
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Message 49406 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 17:50:39 UTC - in response to Message 49399.

Rogue posted your answer in message #48539.
"I asked George last week and he indicated that it will be a few weeks before gwnum v27.3 is ready."
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Message 49407 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 17:59:49 UTC - in response to Message 49406.

Rogue posted your answer in message #48539.
"I asked George last week and he indicated that it will be a few weeks before gwnum v27.3 is ready."


That was referring to a problem with gwnum 27.2 (presumably an avx buiild).

LLR 3.8.7 uses gwnum 26.6.
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Message 49408 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 18:30:45 UTC
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I have successful built a 64bit avx win version now (gwnum 27.2). I cannot see any speed increase with ppselow or trp.

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Message 49409 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 18:56:52 UTC - in response to Message 49408.

I tested my last founded prime with this new build and comparing it with the other builds on a i5-2500K 64bit:

C:\llr>llravx64.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1"
7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 291.827 sec.

C:\llr>llravx.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1"
7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 289.136 sec.

C:\llr>llr64.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1"
7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 401.899 sec.

C:\llr>llr.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1"
7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 437.396 sec.

No significant difference between 32/64 avx builds, maybe it looks different at higher numbers. The 64 without avx seems faster than the 32.

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Message 49410 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 19:33:47 UTC

Jenne Penne has just released an updated 3.8.7 that includes a fix for a memory leak.

You can download the Windows 64 bit executable file here.

Please update your version of the cllr.exe if you downloaded the earlier version from yesterday.
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Message 49412 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 20:25:03 UTC

Update 32/64bit with the latest code:
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The first post has been updated with the latest builds available.
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Message 49423 - Posted: 11 Feb 2012 | 22:19:51 UTC - in response to Message 49415.

Update for linux32/64 from the latest code:

sllr32_dev387.tar.bz2
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Thomas11 found another mem-leak for non-base-2 tests and Jean fixed this today in his sunday source...
Updates for linux32/64 from the latest code:

sllr32_dev387.tar.bz2
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Message 49476 - Posted: 12 Feb 2012 | 21:08:37 UTC
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Updated 32/64bit with the latest code:
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Message 49480 - Posted: 12 Feb 2012 | 22:02:45 UTC

Latest version of the Windowsx64 non-AVX is available, featuring Jean's Sunday code.

This should operate identically to the one Rebirther posted. Mine's built with VS 2005 and his is built worth VS 2010, so it might be worth doing a timing test on them. Chances are there's no measurable difference since the important parts are in gwnum, which is precompiled assembler.
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Message 49481 - Posted: 12 Feb 2012 | 22:06:24 UTC - in response to Message 49476.
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64 bit windows non AVX version
In BOINC
from average 535 ----> 460 seconds.

AVX version also works fine, but both (32 and 64 bit) have some kind of delay.
When Boinc start to compute in non AVX version all 4 task ( on quad core) start crunching in same time
On AVX version, only one task start, and then after ten seconds start second WU , and then after ten seconds start 3WU and 4WU task...
But crunching time is aprox same....
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Message 49482 - Posted: 12 Feb 2012 | 22:56:50 UTC - in response to Message 49480.

Latest version of the Windowsx64 non-AVX is available, featuring Jean's Sunday code.

This should operate identically to the one Rebirther posted. Mine's built with VS 2005 and his is built worth VS 2010, so it might be worth doing a timing test on them. Chances are there's no measurable difference since the important parts are in gwnum, which is precompiled assembler.


Crunch time is same, no speed difference...
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Message 49500 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 4:38:49 UTC - in response to Message 49476.

Updated 32/64bit with the latest code:
llr32bit-AVX-win
llr64bit-AVX-win
llr64bit-win

I wonder what is happening as I do not see any difference here. Perhaps just Windows not being consistent.
>llr_reb.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d Resuming Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1 at bit 33761 [4.64%] Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7 7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 535.005 sec. >llr_prp5.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d Starting Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1 Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7 7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 535.180 sec.

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I wonder what is happening as I do not see any difference here. Perhaps just Windows not being consistent.

There is no difference in the computation times.
Both patches only fix memory leaks for base-2 and non-base-2 tests.
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Message 49521 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 15:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 49518.

I wonder what is happening as I do not see any difference here. Perhaps just Windows not being consistent.

There is no difference in the computation times.
Both patches only fix memory leaks for base-2 and non-base-2 tests.

No! One is an old prpnet distributed 32 bit version and the other is this fast 64-bit version that is as slow as the 32bit version running under exactly same conditions on the same host! In fact I tend to see the opposite of rogues' statement that
it means that a 64-bit build of llr should be faster than a 32-bit build of llr.

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Message 49523 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 15:22:57 UTC - in response to Message 49521.

I wonder what is happening as I do not see any difference here. Perhaps just Windows not being consistent.

There is no difference in the computation times.
Both patches only fix memory leaks for base-2 and non-base-2 tests.

No! One is an old prpnet distributed 32 bit version and the other is this fast 64-bit version that is as slow as the 32bit version running under exactly same conditions on the same host! In fact I tend to see the opposite of rogues' statement that
it means that a 64-bit build of llr should be faster than a 32-bit build of llr.


Sorry, my fault.

Do you compare the AVX- or nonAVX-app?
Gary wrote somewhere, that he saw no run time differences between 32bit and 64bit for the AVX-app.
Only the 64bit nonAVX-app seems to be a little faster than its 32bit counterpart.
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Message 49541 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 18:24:10 UTC - in response to Message 49500.

Updated 32/64bit with the latest code:
llr32bit-AVX-win
llr64bit-AVX-win
llr64bit-win

I wonder what is happening as I do not see any difference here. Perhaps just Windows not being consistent.
>llr_reb.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d Resuming Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1 at bit 33761 [4.64%] Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7 7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 535.005 sec. >llr_prp5.exe -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d Starting Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1 Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7 7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 535.180 sec.




I can confirm there is no difference between AVX 32bit and AVX 64bit
(Files from the first Post UPDATED: 13 FEB 2012)

Windows 64 bit Non-AVX


cllr387dev-win-x64.7z (VS2005) by Michael

P:\()_test\Non-AVX\Windows 64\Michael>cllr -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1
Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7

7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 319.480 sec.


llr64bit-win (VS2010) by Rebirther

P:\()_test\Non-AVX\Windows 64\Rebirther>llr -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1
Using all-complex Pentium4 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7

7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 319.638 sec.



Windows without AVX


Windows 32 bit llr32bit-AVX-win by Rebirther

P:\()_test\AVX\Windows 32>llr -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1
Using all-complex AVX Core2 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7

7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 232.644 sec.


Windows 64 bit llr64bit-AVX-win by Rebirther

P:\()_test\AVX\Windows 64>llr -q"7515*2^726237+1" -d
Starting Proth prime test of 7515*2^726237+1
Using all-complex AVX Core2 type-3 FFT length 64K, Pass1=256, Pass2=256, a = 7

7515*2^726237+1 is prime! Time : 232.633 sec.

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Message 49548 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 21:40:35 UTC - in response to Message 49389.

Tested the 64 bit version with Win7 on an E350 processor.

llr Test>cllr -q"3117*2^314958+1" -d
Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle.

side note: the llr version supplied with the prpclient 5.0.5 produces the same error.

Andy


dl5sfk,

I asked Jean Penne about the problem. He responded here that he's unable to reproduce the error.

If you want to pursue this further, I suggest talking to Jean directly. Unfortunately, there's nothing more I'm able to do to help resolve your problem. If you decide to do that, I would suggest first trying Jean Penne's own 32-bit build of LLR 3.8.7, which can be downloaded HERE. That way you'll both know that the problem isn't caused by something I did building the software.

Good luck!
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Message 49549 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 21:40:39 UTC - in response to Message 49523.

I wonder what is happening as I do not see any difference here. Perhaps just Windows not being consistent.

There is no difference in the computation times.
Both patches only fix memory leaks for base-2 and non-base-2 tests.

No! One is an old prpnet distributed 32 bit version and the other is this fast 64-bit version that is as slow as the 32bit version running under exactly same conditions on the same host! In fact I tend to see the opposite of rogues' statement that
it means that a 64-bit build of llr should be faster than a 32-bit build of llr.


Sorry, my fault.

Do you compare the AVX- or nonAVX-app?

With tongue in cheek, sure I can....
Now where is that tracking number that you sent me for that i7-3960X system?
(Really I am waiting for Ivy Bridge etc.)

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Message 49552 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012 | 22:33:40 UTC

MacIntel 32&64 bit non-AVX and AVX builds added to first post.
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Message 49567 - Posted: 14 Feb 2012 | 10:38:41 UTC - in response to Message 49548.

dl5sfk,

I asked Jean Penne about the problem. He responded here that he's unable to reproduce the error.

If you want to pursue this further, I suggest talking to Jean directly. Unfortunately, there's nothing more I'm able to do to help resolve your problem. If you decide to do that, I would suggest first trying Jean Penne's own 32-bit build of LLR 3.8.7, which can be downloaded HERE. That way you'll both know that the problem isn't caused by something I did building the software.

Good luck!


Michael Goetz, thank you for your investigation and help. I will test the original version from Jean Penne and eventually try to track the problem on my system.

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Message 49593 - Posted: 14 Feb 2012 | 15:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 49552.

John, the links for MacIntel files on first post are wrong. Please correct them.
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gwnum v27.3 has been released. Please see George's comments here. It can be retrieved here: ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/source273.zip

It is unknown at this time whether this resolves the AMD Bulldozer issue.
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Message 49784 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012 | 13:18:41 UTC - in response to Message 49782.

gwnum v27.3 has been released. Please see George's comments here. It can be retrieved here: ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/source273.zip


I came here to post the same thing. :)
But according to George, it's potentially slower on AVX computers...

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Message 49786 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012 | 13:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 49784.

gwnum v27.3 has been released. Please see George's comments here. It can be retrieved here: ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/source273.zip

But according to George, it's potentially slower on AVX computers...

I'm not quite sure where it says that???

An early beta prime95 version 27.3 is available. This version supports 64-bit optimized AVX FFTs. 32-bit AVX FFTs are also a little bit faster. I haven't done full benchmarks so I'm not sure how much faster it is than versions 27.2 or 26.6.

The good/bad news is these FFTs are so fast that they are limited by memory bandwidth -- standard Sandy Bridge CPUs will experience a slow down when running all 4 cores. I'd like to hear from Sandy Bridge-E users to see if they also suffer slow downs when all 4 cores are running.

I don't think he means it will be slower...just that there will be a slowdown when running on 4 cores.
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I don't think he means it will be slower...just that there will be a slowdown when running on 4 cores.


Hmm, but this is like before I think. Rebirther tested it some weeks ago with the gnum 27.2 pfgw-avx build on SR5@prpnet. If he running all 4 cores, it slows down a lot in comparison to 2 cores running simultaneously and 2 cores on another project.

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Message 49790 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012 | 14:06:01 UTC - in response to Message 49787.

I don't think he means it will be slower...just that there will be a slowdown when running on 4 cores.

Hmm, but this is like before I think. Rebirther tested it some weeks ago with the gnum 27.2 pfgw-avx build on SR5@prpnet. If he running all 4 cores, it slows down a lot in comparison to 2 cores running simultaneously and 2 cores on another project.

Note: this is not a new phenomenon introduced in 27.2 or 27.3. There was a memory bandwidth problem in the past as well. Some of the new hardware overcame it, but now it looks like the envelope is being pushed again. :)
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Message 49791 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012 | 14:07:25 UTC - in response to Message 49786.

An early beta prime95 version 27.3 is available. This version supports 64-bit optimized AVX FFTs. 32-bit AVX FFTs are also a little bit faster. I haven't done full benchmarks so I'm not sure how much faster it is than versions 27.2 or 26.6.

The good/bad news is these FFTs are so fast that they are limited by memory bandwidth -- standard Sandy Bridge CPUs will experience a slow down when running all 4 cores. I'd like to hear from Sandy Bridge-E users to see if they also suffer slow downs when all 4 cores are running.

I don't think he means it will be slower...just that there will be a slowdown when running on 4 cores.


Ah, I probably misunderstood. Well, if someone compiles LLR with the newer gwnum, I'd be happy to test on both i7-2600 and i5-2500. :)

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Message 49798 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012 | 14:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 49791.

Well, if someone compiles LLR with the newer gwnum, I'd be happy to test on both i7-2600 and i5-2500. :)

Here's an "early bird" special. Static Linux v3.8.7 built using gwnum v27.3.
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No time to test, pls report any issues!

I will build a new pfgw64avx soon, need to test larger SR5 if the old problem still exists or not, yes there is a bandwidth problem so you can only see a big difference in runtime between 2-4 cores (40%/10% speed increase -->pfgw)

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Still no joy on Bulldozer.

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Results from Rebirther's recent app, using GWNUM 27.3
llr -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 234.014 sec.

llr64 -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 197.413 sec.

pfgw32 -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is 3-PRP! (260.8109s+0.0007s)

pfgw64 -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is 3-PRP! (222.5442s+0.0006s)

LLRAVX is previous 3.8.6 version
llravx -q"8661*2^678147+1" -d
8661*2^678147+1 is prime! Time : 241.185 sec.

Note: those tests are using 50k FTT, recent live test from BOINC (n~752k) FFT length: 64K
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Discovered 7 mega primesEliminated 4 conjecture "k"sFound 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage2019 Tour de Primes largest primeFound 4 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (62,020,570)Cullen LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,296,190)ESP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,853,190)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,309,119)PPS LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (117,948,698)PSP LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,563,867)SoB LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,318,971)SR5 LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (101,883,529)SGS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (53,154,727)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (43,033)TRP LLR Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,282,230)Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,956,094)321 Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (115,930,764)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,142,109)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,504,945)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (513,057,580)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,288,222)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,149,354)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (232,724,773)GFN Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (722,029,171)PSA Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (535,232,795)
Message 49824 - Posted: 17 Feb 2012 | 19:43:16 UTC

Same host, several instances or LLRAVX64:
1 instance: 197 secs
2 instances: 197 secs
3 instances: 199 secs
4 instances: ~205 secs

On a side note - I noteced that during initial phase, app uses more than single core. In the end, BOINC time is a bit lower compating to TaskManager.
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Message 49860 - Posted: 18 Feb 2012 | 16:10:44 UTC

Update for Linux32/64 with gwnum27.3:
sllr32_dev387_gwnum273.tar.bz2
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Message 50105 - Posted: 21 Feb 2012 | 23:53:04 UTC
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Is anyone able to provide LLR builds for the following:

ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/source266.zip
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Message 50111 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012 | 1:41:45 UTC - in response to Message 50105.

All apps for Linux are listed at http://primegrid.pytalhost.net/Mirror.htm or you use the following links:
sllr32_386src_gwnum266, no 64bit possible!
sllr32_386devsrc_gwnum266, no 64bit possible!

sllr32_dev387_gwnum266
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Message 50113 - Posted: 22 Feb 2012 | 2:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 50111.

All apps for Linux are listed at http://primegrid.pytalhost.net/Mirror.htm or you use the following links:
sllr32_386src_gwnum266, no 64bit possible!
sllr32_386devsrc_gwnum266, no 64bit possible!

sllr32_dev387_gwnum266
sllr64_dev387_gwnum266

Many thanks!!! No further builds are necessary at this time.
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Discovered 1 mega primeEliminated 1 conjecture "k"321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,512)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,519)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,077,044)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (31,587,497)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,224,283)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,016,050)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,013,831)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,826,997)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,076,722)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,412,265)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,018,004)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,008,362)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,969,265)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,094)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,368,787)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,001,345)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,224,085)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,288,965)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (39,205,178)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (28,861,785)
Message 50693 - Posted: 27 Feb 2012 | 22:10:14 UTC - in response to Message 50113.
Last modified: 27 Feb 2012 | 22:39:38 UTC

Hi there
thnks for the app. it is much more quick on my i7 2500, Win7 then the standad app, but i think that ther is a bug. It semms, that sometimes two times are interchanged.

Aufgabe Computer Laufzeit CPU Zeit Punkte Anwendung
354000151 221117 536.22s 558.75s 11.82 PPS (LLR)
353992881 222147 324.48s 318.88s 11.82 PPS (LLR)

on my computer 221117 the runtime is less then the cpu-time, i think it is not ok.
~20% of this computers have the same 'problem'

michael
edit: link to the wu: http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=354000151
i use this application: llr64bit-win (VS2010) by Rebirther
client runs 8 pps tasks and one collatz- or milkyway-task on ati-gpu (hd5870 ccc12.1)

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Message 51135 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012 | 5:04:39 UTC

I found the inofficial 27.4 gwnum and built a new 32bit avx version. I dont know what was changed so pls test it also with Bulldozer.

32bitavx-win

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Message 51170 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012 | 19:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 51135.

Whatever was changed in 27.4, it didn't fix the Bulldozer problem.

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Message 51171 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012 | 19:52:56 UTC - in response to Message 51170.

Whatever was changed in 27.4, it didn't fix the Bulldozer problem.


ok, thx, so time to wait until official code :/

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Message 51176 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012 | 22:12:31 UTC - in response to Message 51171.

27.4 does fix the bug mentioned in http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=289888&postcount=63

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Message 51178 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012 | 23:38:29 UTC - in response to Message 51170.

Whatever was changed in 27.4, it didn't fix the Bulldozer problem.


George told me that it should be fixed. What problem are you seeing with v27.4?

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Message 51180 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012 | 0:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 51178.

Whatever was changed in 27.4, it didn't fix the Bulldozer problem.


George told me that it should be fixed. What problem are you seeing with v27.4?


Every test fails with "Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle."

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Message 51181 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012 | 1:07:02 UTC - in response to Message 51180.

Whatever was changed in 27.4, it didn't fix the Bulldozer problem.


George told me that it should be fixed. What problem are you seeing with v27.4?


Every test fails with "Fatal error at setup : Number sent to gwsetup is too large for the FFTs to handle."


Are you certain that it is a build that is linked with gwnum v27.4?

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Message 51182 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012 | 1:49:46 UTC - in response to Message 51181.

Are you certain that it is a build that is linked with gwnum v27.4?


I'm certain. It solves the non-SSE4 bug, and contains the version number 27.4 near the end of the file.

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Message 51277 - Posted: 8 Mar 2012 | 4:26:11 UTC

Update for Linux32/64 with gwnum27.4:
sllr32_dev387_gwnum274.tar.bz2
sllr64_dev387_gwnum274.tar.bz2

boinc@vmware2k-3:~/Cuda/llrCPU$ ./sllr64_dev387_gwnum274 -d -q"30448908048555*2^666666-1"
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-1 FFT length 72K, Pass1=96, Pass2=768
30448908048555*2^666666-1, iteration : 10000 / 666666 [1.50%]. Time per iteration : 1.527 ms.
^C
Caught signal. Terminating.

boinc@vmware2k-3:~/Cuda/llrCPU$ ./sllr32_dev387_gwnum274 -d -q"30448908048555*2^666666-1"
Error reading z7896541 intermediate file.
Starting Lucas Lehmer Riesel prime test of 30448908048555*2^666666-1
Using zero-padded Core2 type-1 FFT length 72K, Pass1=96, Pass2=768
30448908048555*2^666666-1, iteration : 10000 / 666666 [1.50%]. Time per iteration : 1.756 ms.
^C
Caught signal. Terminating.

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Message 51344 - Posted: 9 Mar 2012 | 5:04:28 UTC

I updated the code with official one:

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Message 51361 - Posted: 9 Mar 2012 | 13:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 51344.
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I updated the code with official one:

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Wrong thread.

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Message 51367 - Posted: 9 Mar 2012 | 15:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 51361.

I updated the code with official one:

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Wrong thread.


No, linked to avx versions too.

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Message 51369 - Posted: 9 Mar 2012 | 15:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 51367.

I updated the code with official one:

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Wrong thread.


No, linked to avx versions too.


I had posted to this thread instead of the AVX pfgw thread by mistake. I couldn't delete my post so I edited it. :-)

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Message 51412 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012 | 13:57:56 UTC

Update for Linux32/64 with gwnum27.4 source from 09-Mar-2012:
sllr32_dev387_gwnum274.tar.bz2
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Eliminated 3 conjecture "k"s321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (186,594)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,665)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,416)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (504,111)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (513,785)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,944)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,790,118)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,099)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (46,235)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (708,706)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (133,626)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,527)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,729,132)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (132,786,707)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,317)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (620,991)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (418,876)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,795,613)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,329,123)
Message 51417 - Posted: 10 Mar 2012 | 20:29:35 UTC
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32bit vs. 64bit latest win version:

~35s vs. 31s -->i5-2500k@4Ghz

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Message 51625 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012 | 18:35:52 UTC

Jean has released now the official version 3.8.8 with gwnum 27.5 but only in 32bit.

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Message 51652 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 13:01:49 UTC - in response to Message 51625.

I've now tried both SoB and PSP with v3.8.7. SoB showed maybe a 10% performance gain. PSP doesn't seem to be any different to stock.
Am I doing something wrong here? i7-2600K with HT on.

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I've now tried both SoB and PSP with v3.8.7. SoB showed maybe a 10% performance gain. PSP doesn't seem to be any different to stock.
Am I doing something wrong here? i7-2600K with HT on.


With HT on its ok. The calculations need more cpu cache so its much slower than you run only 3 of 4 cores with SOB or PSP.

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Message 51658 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 13:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 51654.


With HT on its ok. The calculations need more cpu cache so its much slower than you run only 3 of 4 cores with SOB or PSP.


thanks, so is it best to run 6 or 7 out of 8?

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Message 51661 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 13:32:53 UTC - in response to Message 51658.


With HT on its ok. The calculations need more cpu cache so its much slower than you run only 3 of 4 cores with SOB or PSP.


thanks, so is it best to run 6 or 7 out of 8?


3-4 without HT on.

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Message 51662 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 13:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 51661.


With HT on its ok. The calculations need more cpu cache so its much slower than you run only 3 of 4 cores with SOB or PSP.


thanks, so is it best to run 6 or 7 out of 8?


3-4 without HT on.

ok. I'm going to try 7, then 6 then switch ht-off to see which is the best.

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Message 51663 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 13:48:31 UTC

4 x llr and 4 x wu of other project.

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Message 51667 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 14:07:59 UTC

It's going to vary depending on exactly which CPU you have, since CPU cache sizes and configurations vary from CPU to CPU.

Unless you're getting advice from someone with the same CPU, or someone with knowlege of how your CPU performs, take what anyone says with a fair dose of skepticism. What works best for their computer may not work best for yours.
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Message 51669 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 14:44:27 UTC - in response to Message 51625.

Jean has released now the official version 3.8.8 with gwnum 27.5 but only in 32bit.


[noob mode] It also works for BOINC, right? (of course first finish the wu's that are running now!)

And which one would I need? Would that be cllr388 or cllrd388? [/noob mode]
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Message 51670 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 14:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 51669.

Jean has released now the official version 3.8.8 with gwnum 27.5 but only in 32bit.


[noob mode] It also works for BOINC, right? (of course first finish the wu's that are running now!)

And which one would I need? Would that be cllr388 or cllrd388? [/noob mode]


cllr388, the "d" is standing for debug mode

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Message 51671 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 14:55:59 UTC - in response to Message 51667.


Unless you're getting advice from someone with the same CPU, or someone with knowlege of how your CPU performs, take what anyone says with a fair dose of skepticism. What works best for their computer may not work best for yours.

that's why I'm now testing different configs. Changing from 8-7 processors has seen PPS go from around 600s to 500s so that's already around 5% improvement per task.

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Message 51673 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 15:10:47 UTC

Yeah, but you wasting cpu cycles! ;)

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Message 51682 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 17:03:10 UTC - in response to Message 51673.

here's what I've found as an average time per task for PPS:

8 cores = 75s
5,6,7 cores = 70-72s

With HT off, 4 cores = 65-70s (not sure why the large variation here compared to the others).

HT off without avx = 90s

My current PSPs will finish later tonight so we'll see how much quicker they run without HT in a couple of days.

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Message 51685 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012 | 17:59:37 UTC

When you switching HT off, do it in bios.

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Message 51763 - Posted: 20 Mar 2012 | 10:12:03 UTC - in response to Message 51685.

Some PSP tasks have now finished with HT off. With HT on with/without avx they were taking around 305-310Ksec.

With HT off, without avx they're taking around 153Ksec. So perhaps slightly quicker with HT off but I'm not seeing the expected (20-50%) improvements with AVX.

Any thoughts as to why this is?

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Message 51861 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012 | 12:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 51763.

anyone???

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Message 51888 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012 | 15:18:06 UTC - in response to Message 51763.

Some PSP tasks have now finished with HT off. With HT on with/without avx they were taking around 305-310Ksec.

With HT off, without avx they're taking around 153Ksec. So perhaps slightly quicker with HT off but I'm not seeing the expected (20-50%) improvements with AVX.

Any thoughts as to why this is?


The factors are larger than PPS so there is a cpu cache limit (waiting time). As I know about 4/4 cores running with SR5 you can expecting only a 10% speed increase. With 3 cores + 1 other project its nearly 50%.

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Message 51898 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012 | 16:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 51888.


The factors are larger than PPS so there is a cpu cache limit (waiting time). As I know about 4/4 cores running with SR5 you can expecting only a 10% speed increase. With 3 cores + 1 other project its nearly 50%.

but I'm not seeing any speed increase unless the PSP tasks have suddenly increased by 10% since I switched on avx.

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Message 51899 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012 | 16:59:05 UTC - in response to Message 51898.


The factors are larger than PPS so there is a cpu cache limit (waiting time). As I know about 4/4 cores running with SR5 you can expecting only a 10% speed increase. With 3 cores + 1 other project its nearly 50%.

but I'm not seeing any speed increase unless the PSP tasks have suddenly increased by 10% since I switched on avx.


Try to do a full run on 2 PSP tasks + perhaps 2 WCG. We will see whats happening. I tried the bigger TRP and got around 40% less in time but with 64bit AVX.

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Message 51900 - Posted: 22 Mar 2012 | 17:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 51899.


Try to do a full run on 2 PSP tasks + perhaps 2 WCG. We will see whats happening. I tried the bigger TRP and got around 40% less in time but with 64bit AVX.

not sure what WCG is. I only run primegrid on this PC so the only option will be to switch it to 50% cores. I'll do that for a test but it sounds like in my situation it's not going to give me an overall improvement.

On another note, I've now discovered that my other (non-avx) PCs are slightly faster running with HT on.

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Try to do a full run on 2 PSP tasks + perhaps 2 WCG. We will see whats happening. I tried the bigger TRP and got around 40% less in time but with 64bit AVX.

not sure what WCG is. I only run primegrid on this PC so the only option will be to switch it to 50% cores. I'll do that for a test but it sounds like in my situation it's not going to give me an overall improvement.

On another note, I've now discovered that my other (non-avx) PCs are slightly faster running with HT on.


This is not a good option. WCG=World Community Grid. Better to have another project too. You can also try PPSElow on PRPnet with 4-8 cores or PPS with PG on 4 cores (test later with 8)

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Message 51938 - Posted: 23 Mar 2012 | 8:41:59 UTC - in response to Message 51901.


This is not a good option.

for who? I like primegrid so that's where I'm putting my resources.


You can also try PPSElow on PRPnet with 4-8 cores or PPS with PG on 4 cores

will do that again later but as long as there's badges to be had I'd like to complete the set so for now I'm running PSP and SoB on my fastest pc.

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This is not a good option.

for who? I like primegrid so that's where I'm putting my resources.



I meant switched it to 50% only. I like PG too but only special subprojects with an end goal and solution.

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with 3 cores PSP is around 20% faster but obviously that means overall throughput is down.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,692)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,876)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,979)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,018)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,441)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,475)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,939)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,783)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,115)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,459)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,757)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,908,135)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,450,104)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (130,966)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,525)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,015)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (246,369)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,594)
Message 52005 - Posted: 24 Mar 2012 | 10:15:43 UTC - in response to Message 52003.

This slow down is caused by a bandwidth limitation of the memory controller and can only be solved either by a tripple/quad channel memory interface or by memory with higher bandwidths (XDR, DDR4 etc).
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Credit: 1,024,065,232
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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,458,107)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,456,539)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,812,120)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,548,645)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,378,132)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,500,951)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,157,606)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,817,872)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,064,247)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,717,538)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,503,815)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,309,246)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (265,102,350)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (500,495,422)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,801,812)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,457,016)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (143,507,327)
Message 52006 - Posted: 24 Mar 2012 | 10:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 52005.

This slow down is caused by a bandwidth limitation of the memory controller and can only be solved either by a tripple/quad channel memory interface or by memory with higher bandwidths (XDR, DDR4 etc).

so what you're saying is that I really need an i7 3930 or 3960? Tempting... but not right now ;-)

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