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Message 25807 - Posted: 23 Aug 2010 | 3:01:21 UTC
Last modified: 12 Sep 2010 | 14:40:00 UTC

Welcome to the Calendula Challenge

This is PrimeGrid's longest Challenge this year and worth the most Challenge points. It will also be the most taxing on your computer systems. It's never too early to post this warning:

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive and the WU's for this Challenge are quite long; so, it is vital to have a stable system (solid hardware) with GOOD COOLING. Invalid WU's will not receive credit.

PrimeGrid's Challenge series continues with the "Calendula Challenge". Why Calendula??? Orignally, the Challenge was scheduled to begin on 1 October. However, due to scheduling changes, it had to be advanced one week. The name Calendula stems from the Latin kalendae, meaning first day of the month. Additionally, the Calendula is the birth flower for October.

A 13 day Challenge is being offered on PrimeGrid's Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) application. The duration is needed for the length of the WU's being tested. This is the 2nd Challenge for PSP LLR and will be by far, the most demanding Challenge yet.

PSP LLR is currently testing n~10M which can produce a 3M+ digit prime. It will be like running a constant "stress test" on your computer for 13 days straight. Solid, well cleaned and cooled computers will be a necessity. Good hardware will "rule the day".

As for the psychology of the Challenge, patience will be the virtue needed if you wish to participate. :) The recent average WU is 88 hours long (range: 50hrs to 100+hrs). So, you can see the importance of having stable hardware.

To participate in the Challenge, please select only the Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project in your PrimeGrid preferences section. The challenge will begin 24 September 2010 18:00 UTC and end 7 October 2010 18:00 UTC. Application builds are available for Linux 32 bit, Windows 32 bit and MacIntel. These applications will be sent to 64 bit clients. As with all LLR application projects, there is no advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit.

NOTE: In your PrimeGrid preferences section, set "Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work" to no to guarantee that no other work will be sent.

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer. WU's will take ~60-70 hours on fast/newer computers and 100+ hours on slower/older computers. If your computer is highly overclocked, please consider "stress testing" it. Sieving is an excellent alternative for computers that are not able to LLR. :)

Restricted airflow is one of the primary reasons for overheating. Take the time to monitor the fans and review the dust buildup. Please, please, please make sure your machines are up to the task.


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NOTE: The countdown clock on the front page uses the host computer time. Therefore, if your computer time is off, so will the countdown clock. For precise timing, use the UTC Time in the data section to the left of the countdown clock.

Scoring Information

Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 24 September 2010 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE 7 October 2010 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit. We will use the "prime score" method which is based on k,b,n values (k*b^n-1) to score the challenge. The only difference is that the primary and double checker of a WU will receive the same score.

Therefore, each completed WU will earn a unique score based on its k,b,n values. The higher the n, the higher the score. This is different than BOINC cobblestones! A quorum of 2 is NOT needed to award Challenge score - i.e. no double checker. Therefore, each returned result will earn a Challenge score. Please note that if the result is eventually declared invalid, the score will be removed.

For details on how the score is calculated, please see this thread.

At the Conclusion of the Challenge

    We kindly ask users "moving on" to ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

    ABORTING WU's allows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

    Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)


About the Prime Sierpinski Problem

Waclaw Franciszek Sierpinski (14 March 1882 - 21 October 1969), a Polish mathematician, was known for outstanding contributions to set theory, number theory, theory of functions and topology. It is in number theory where we find the Sierpinski problem.

Basically, the Sierpinski problem is "What is the smallest Sierpinski number" and the prime Sierpinski problem is "What is the smallest 'prime' Sierpinski number?"

First we look at Proth numbers (named after the French mathematician François Proth). A Proth number is a number of the form k*2^n+1 where k is odd, n is a positive integer, and 2^n>k.

A Sierpinski number is an odd k such that the Proth number k*2^n+1 is not prime for all n. For example, 3 is not a Sierpinski number because n=2 produces a prime number (3*2^2+1=13). In 1962, John Selfridge proved that 78,557 is a Sierpinski number...meaning he showed that for all n, 78557*2^n+1 was not prime.

Most number theorists believe that 78,557 is the smallest Sierpinski number, but it hasn't yet been proven. In order to prove it, it has to be shown that every single k less than 78,557 is not a Sierpinski number, and to do that, some n must be found that makes k*2^n+1 prime.

The smallest proven 'prime' Sierpinski number is 271,129. In order to prove it, it has to be shown that every single 'prime' k less than 271,129 is not a Sierpinski number, and to do that, some n must be found that makes k*2^n+1 prime.

Seventeen or Bust is working on the Sierpinski problem and the Prime Sierpinski Project is working on the 'prime' Sierpinski problem. The following k's remain for each project:

Sierpinski problem 'prime' Sierpinski problem 10223 10223* 21181 22699* 22699 67607* 24737 79309 55459 79817 67607 152267 156511 168451 222113 225931 237019 '*being tested by Seventeen or Bust

Additional Information

For more information about Sierpinski, Sierpinski number, and the Sierpinsk problem, please see these resources:


What is LLR?

The Lucas-Lehmer-Riesel (LLR) test is a primality test for numbers of the form N = k*2^n − 1, with 2^n > k. Also, LLR is a program developed by Jean Penné that can run the LLR-tests. It includes the Proth test to perform +1 tests and PRP to test non base 2 numbers. See also:


(Edouard Lucas: 1842-1891, Derrick H. Lehmer: 1905-1991, Hans Riesel: born 1929).
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Message 26122 - Posted: 5 Sep 2010 | 22:19:28 UTC - in response to Message 25807.

Long WUs for days on end... to risky for me, and crap credit to boot. Good luck to everyone else! See ya in November :)


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Message 26133 - Posted: 6 Sep 2010 | 7:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 26122.

Thanks for the good luck message.

The vermin horde plan to have a go. We shan't win any points but then again since neither they nor BOINC credit buy beer it doesn't matter.

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Message 26259 - Posted: 10 Sep 2010 | 2:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 26133.

i will try it.. but thankful its not the seven or bust ones..

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Message 26281 - Posted: 11 Sep 2010 | 3:42:06 UTC - in response to Message 26133.

Thanks for the good luck message.

The vermin horde plan to have a go. We shan't win any points but then again since neither they nor BOINC credit buy beer it doesn't matter.

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Message 26470 - Posted: 19 Sep 2010 | 5:56:51 UTC
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How to Join the Challenge

To participate in the Challenge, please select only the Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project in your PrimeGrid preferences section. Also, set "Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work" to no to guarantee that no other work will be sent. The challenge will begin 24 September 18:00 UTC and end 7 October 18:00 UTC.

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive and the WU's for this Challenge are quite long; so, it is vital to have a stable system (solid hardware) with GOOD COOLING. Invalid WU's will not receive credit.

Application builds are available for the following:


  • Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
  • Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
  • Mac OS 10.4 or later running on Intel

Note: As with all LLR application projects, there is no advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit.

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NOTE: The countdown clock on the front page uses the host computer time. Therefore, if your computer time is off, so will the countdown clock. For precise timing, use the UTC Time in the data section to the left of the countdown clock.

Scoring Information

Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 24 September 18:00 and received BEFORE 7 October 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit. We will use the "prime score" method which is based on the n value (k*b^n-1) to score the challenge. The only difference is that the primary and double checker of a WU will receive the same score.

Therefore, each completed WU will earn a unique score based on its n value. The higher the n, the higher the score. This is different than BOINC cobblestones! A quorum of 2 is NOT needed to award Challenge score. Therefore, each returned result will earn a Challenge score. Please note that if the result is eventually declared invalid, the score will be removed.

For details on how the score is calculated, please see this thread.

Stats will be available on the front page next to the clock within 30 minutes after the start.

What to expect at Challenge start

The server always gets hit hard at the beginning of the Challenge. However, since the PSP (LLR) wu's are so long, we do not expect any adjustments for the start. :)

Strategies for starting the Challenge

Depending on a variety of factors, different strategies work for different users. Here are just a few to consider:


  • large farm, user can be present at start
    -Set Computer is connected to the Internet about every to 0 days
    -Set Maintain enough work for an additional to 0 days
    -Change PrimeGrid preferences to a fast WU project such as PPS (LLR)
    -At Challenge start, update PrimeGrid preferences and only select Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project
    -At worse, you'll only be 1 PPS (LLR) WU late on each core starting the Challenge.
    -After all machines have work, increase Maintain enough work for an additional
  • large farm, user NOT able to be present at start
    -Same settings as above.
    -As soon as you can access your machines after the start, switch to the Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project
  • a few computers, user can be present at start
    -Change PrimeGrid preferences and only select Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project
    -Set computers to "No New Tasks" for PrimeGrid
    -At Challenge Start, update computers to "Allow New Tasks"
  • a few computers, user NOT able to be present at start
    -Set Computer is connected to the Internet about every to 0 days
    -Set Maintain enough work for an additional to 0 days
    -Change PrimeGrid preferences and only select Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project
    -As soon as you can access your machines after the start, switch to the Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) project.

NOTE: This presumes you have all other BOINC projects suspended.

Best of Luck to everyone!
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Message 26496 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 9:47:23 UTC

I think it would be helpful to give an indication of likely run time for various processors. Could this be done?

I've got a PSP task coming up to finishing on an i7 Q720 and will post the processing time when it completes.

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Message 26498 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 13:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 26496.

I think it would be helpful to give an indication of likely run time for various processors. Could this be done?

I've got a PSP task coming up to finishing on an i7 Q720 and will post the processing time when it completes.


On a C2Q Q6600 at a stock 2.4 GHZ it takes about 4 days or 100 hours, give or take. That's the only machine I've run it on. I expect it to finish 3 WUs per core, 12 total, if I use it for the during the challenge.

Antique Collection: 1.8GHz Celeron: I haven't run PSP on it yet, but based on other LLRs, it should take about 10 days. I'm expecting to get 1 WU done during the challenge. AMD Sempron 3000+: Roughly the same as the Celeron.

Others can chime in with experiences with other chips, but I can do some extrapolated guesses until then:

Other Core2 Chips -- just go by the clock speed. A 3.0GHz C2Q or C2D should be about 25% faster.

Core i3/i5/i7 with Hyperthreading turned on: LLR and HT don't play well together; essentially you're running two threads on one core without any benefit from the HT. Expect longer run times than the C2, even with a fast i7. Guestimate about 5 days for a fast i7; more for the lesser chips. With HT turned off, the chips will run twice as fast but will be working on half as many tasks.



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Message 26501 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 20:22:28 UTC

... and my i7 completed one in a rather leisurely 164 hours; easily time to do 8 but not quite enough time to 16 in the challenge.

Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

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Message 26502 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 20:57:48 UTC - in response to Message 26501.

... and my i7 completed one in a rather leisurely 164 hours; easily time to do 8 but not quite enough time to 16 in the challenge.

Just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!


If you run with HT turned off, you should be able to gt 12 done before the challenge ends.
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Message 26503 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 22:06:11 UTC - in response to Message 26502.

Thanks. Now all I have to do is work out how to do that!

There is a setting in the BIOS which (dis)ables turbo (and makes me feel all nostalgic) and one which toggles between multi ie 8 w/u at a time and and single processor ie 1 w/u at a time options but nothing I can see that switches hyperthreading on and off. It is a Toshiba Satellite A660 if that makes a difference.

Bring back MULTICS I say.

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Message 26504 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 22:24:33 UTC - in response to Message 26503.
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Thanks. Now all I have to do is work out how to do that!

There is a setting in the BIOS which (dis)ables turbo (and makes me feel all nostalgic) and one which toggles between multi ie 8 w/u at a time and and single processor ie 1 w/u at a time options but nothing I can see that switches hyperthreading on and off. It is a Toshiba Satellite A660 if that makes a difference.

Bring back MULTICS I say.

Cheers!


It depends on your BIOS. I have an i3 laptop where I can't turn the HT off.

If there's no place in the BIOS to disable HT, what you can do is go into BOIC and set the "# of CPUs" to 50%. Then do some tests with, say PPS LLRs. If Windows (or whatever) is smart enough, it should run the different WUs on separate physical cores. If not, you can manually use processor affinity settings to make that happen. Fortunately, with WUs that run for multiple days, setting the CPU affinity manually isn't completely impractical.

Test it out on some small LLRs to see what works before the challenge starts.

EDIT: If I feel adventurous, I might test this out myself. Although I do have two hyperthreaded machines, I don't normally crunch with them as they're normally running on battery power. I've got an i3 M330 and an Atom N450. The Atom, all 6.5 Watts of it, is probably faster than my Celeron and Sempron systems. :)
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Message 26505 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010 | 23:09:09 UTC - in response to Message 26504.
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Lovely. Thank you so much. Currently running with 50% processors and notably faster.

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Message 26509 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010 | 5:04:45 UTC - in response to Message 26505.

I just tried running some PPS LLRs on an N450, which is a single core CPU with HyperThreading.

First thing I noticed is that CPU is REALLY slow running LLR, even though its BOINC benchmark numbers aren't that slow, and it's reasonably fast in normal use. But it took almost two hours to run one WU, which takes only 9 minutes on a core of my Q6600. Very, very strange.

Anyway, here's the results:

With one WU running (simulating HT off): CPU time = 6,298.43
With two WU running: CPU times = 8,626.09 and 8,527.58

That's not nearly as big a difference as I was expecting. Then again, I wasn't expecting the WUs to take that long, either. There's something peculiar going on there that I don't quite understand yet.

(Yes, the system was running in high power mode with the CPU running at full speed.)

Anyway, there are major architectural differences between an Atom and an i7, so these results are pretty meaningless as far as crunching for the challenge goes.

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Message 26515 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010 | 6:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 26509.


I get the same results on my netbook.

I only use it to run the fastest units on Port 11000 when
they are available.

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Message 26530 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010 | 23:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 26515.

Hi All,

Here we have yet another challenge named for a christian festival. As PG is an international project why not have the PSP LLR challenge next year from 1 to 29 August and call it Ramadan? I realise it would be a bit longer and thus a bit more of a challenge for some.
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Message 26531 - Posted: 22 Sep 2010 | 2:07:03 UTC - in response to Message 26530.

Hi All,

Here we have yet another challenge named for a christian festival. As PG is an international project why not have the PSP LLR challenge next year from 1 to 29 August and call it Ramadan? I realise it would be a bit longer and thus a bit more of a challenge for some.


That would be perfect for SoB!
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Message 26532 - Posted: 22 Sep 2010 | 4:47:11 UTC
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It looks like Ramadan is an entire (Islamic) month. Isn't there anything shorter?

If we're doing other religions' holidays, how about:


  • Hannukah, which Wikipedia says starts December 21, 2011, and runs for eight days.
  • Songkran, a Buddhist holiday which Thailand celebrates as a new years festival April 13-15 every year.
    Edit: I think you could also get away with calling any New Moon Challenge an Uposatha challenge.
  • Any one of a number of Hindu festivals.


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Message 26533 - Posted: 22 Sep 2010 | 5:18:11 UTC

I think DaveB's suggestion of celebrating some non-christian festivals along with christian ones and secular events is a great one; so long as we don't fall into the trap of saying that Primegrid favours religion x over religion y because challenges for its religion are longer.

Here is a list of some dates. http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/Homework/religion/calendar.htm Some of them are movable feasts but it might give some ideas.

Iris says it is not complete. It omits a significant event every 4 April.

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Message 26553 - Posted: 23 Sep 2010 | 18:05:34 UTC

24 hours to go!!!

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive and the WU's for this Challenge are quite long; so, it is vital to have a stable system (solid hardware) with GOOD COOLING. Invalid WU's will not receive credit.

Please once again review the "Welcome" post as well as the "How to Join" post so you can be informed and make any last minute adjustments that are necessary.

A few hours before the Challenge, we begin to monitor the Meebo chat room at the bottom of the forum page. If at any time PrimeGrid becomes unresponsive, you can still access the Meebo chat room externally here: http://www.meebo.com/room/primegrid/

Before the start, the Subproject stats on the Server Status page will be disabled as will the 24 hour stats on the bottom of the front page. Also, the Top Primes Finder page will be disabled. This is all done to free up as much resources as possible to allow the server to send and receive work. With these long WU's, we do NOT expect a very high volume of traffic. All of these pages will be restored shortly after the start.

What to expect at Challenge start

The server usually gets hit hard at the beginning of the Challenge. However, since the PSP (LLR) wu's are so long, we do not expect any adjustments for the start. :)

Stats will be available on the front page next to the clock within 30 minutes after the start. However, we don't expect the first results until at least 50-75 hours later.

BOINCstats provides hourly updates of Project Challenges. There you can view user and team credit and ranking trends.

Best of Luck to everyone!
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Message 26558 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 9:21:45 UTC

With thanks to PoppaGeek and Someguy1982 over at XtremeSystems

Here's a useful hint, especially for the end of challenges:


How to make BOINC report completed work units immediately

You can make BOINC report results immediately as they are completed by altering the cc_config.xml file. Below are steps to edit the file and verify functionality, and a section on common problems

You can locate the cc_config.xml file by checking your BOINC manager's "Messages" tab. There should be a message near the top that says "Data Directory: <File Path of Data Directory>." The cc_config file resides within this directory.

Open your cc_config.xml file with notepad to edit. Add the following line between the <option></options> tags. Make sure it saves this file as a .xml file, not a .txt file when you are done. You can do this by clicking "save as type" and selecting "all" then make sure the name is "cc_config.xml"

Code:

<report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately>

So it should look similar to the following...

Code:

<cc_config>
<options>
<report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately>
</options>
</cc_config>

Verify functionality by doing the following.

-Open BOINC Manager
-Click "Advanced" and select "Read config file"
-Click the "messages" tab

If everything worked properly, you should see a message in the messages tab at or near the bottom that says the following.

Re-reading cc_config.xml
Re-read config file
Config: report completed tasks immediately
log flags: file_xfer, sced_ops, Task
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Message 26560 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 11:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 26558.

and a section on common problems


Here's the section on common problems:

1) HALP! I can't find my data directory!

Windows hides the ProgramData directory by default, if you cannot find the data directory this is likely the problem. You can unhide the directory by:

Windows XP:
-In Windows explorer click "Folder Options"
-Click the "View" tab
-Under "Hidden files and folders" click Show hidden files and folders

Windows Vista/7:
-Click the "Start" button, then select "Control Panel"
-Click "Appearance and Personalization"
-Click "Folder Options"
-Select the "View" tab
-Under "Advanced" settings, click "Show hidden files and folders"
-Click "OK"

2) OK, I can find the data directory, but there is no cc_config file.

Some peoples installations do not have a cc_config file by default. Don't ask me why, I don't know. The good news is you can make your own!

There are a few important considerations when making your own cc_config file, so be careful. First, you MUST use a plain text editor or an xml editor if you've got one. Second, the file MUST be saved as a .xml file. Many plain text editors(like notepad) will try and save your file as a .txt. This will NOT work. For the sake of simplicity notepad will be used in this example to create the file.

Creating cc_config with Notepad:

-Open Notepad
-Copy and paste the following code exactly as provided. Do not add any extra spaces/characters to the beginning or end or anywhere in between.

<cc_config>
<options>
<report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately>
</options>
</cc_config>

-Click "File" and select "Save as"
-Click "Save as type" and select "All files"
-For the name, type "cc_config.xml"
-Verify that you are saving the file into your data directory
-Ensure you are saving into the data directory for BOINC
-Click Save
-Open BOINC Manager
-Click "Advanced" and select "Read config file"
-Click the "messages" tab

If everything worked properly, you should see a message in the messages tab at or near the bottom that says the following.

Re-reading cc_config.xml
Re-read config file
Config: report completed tasks immediately
log flags: file_xfer, sced_ops, Task

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Message 26565 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 16:05:40 UTC - in response to Message 26509.

Most interesting.. All this talk of Hyperthreading & how many tasks a multi-cored machine can fit into the time frame...
- Seems to me there's no point in disabling hyperthreading - unless tasks run appreciably more than twice as fast - which doesn't look to be the case.

The more interesting problem of how to fit as many tasks as possible into a specific time-frame deserves more attention.. Fortunately these challenges have taught me the subtle art of Task-Juggling... Here's how it works...

Say (for the sake of a simple example) u have a challenge that lasts for 3 days, but each of your 4 cores takes 2 days to complete a single task... So u're doomed to complete only 4 tasks in the timeframe.. right?... Wrong!!

Simply download 6 tasks and 'juggle' four of them by constantly suspending and resuming 2 of them in order to keep these four at roughly the same percentage, so these four are running twice as slow as the two that are not being "juggled" - So when the first two finish 2 days later, the last four can all get done in the last day.. Voila!

Obviously the trick here is to plan ahead carefully and choose wisely as to how many tasks to juggle!

Here's wishing us all the Best of Luck!!

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Message 26566 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 16:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 26565.

Interesting, but not everyone has time to juggle, especially if they have 10 or 20 machines.

Thanks for the idea, though; I might try it.
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Message 26568 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 17:20:27 UTC - in response to Message 26566.

If u time it right, u only have to do 2 'juggles' - When your penultimate batch of tasks is half-done, u do your first suspend of juggle-candidates, then resume again as the un-juggled ones finish. - not quite so time-consuming!

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Message 26569 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 18:10:47 UTC

A final reminder:

    ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer. WU's will take ~60-70 hours on fast/newer computers and 100+ hours on slower/older computers. If your computer is highly overclocked, please consider "stress testing" it. Sieving is an excellent alternative for computers that are not able to LLR. :)

    Restricted airflow is one of the primary reasons for overheating. Take the time to monitor the fans and review the dust buildup. Please, please, please make sure your machines are up to the task.

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Message 26575 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 20:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 26568.

If u time it right, u only have to do 2 'juggles' - When your penultimate batch of tasks is half-done, u do your first suspend of juggle-candidates, then resume again as the un-juggled ones finish. - not quite so time-consuming!


Do not forget that most of the relevant processors have turbo boost (or similar AMD technology) that can help get that last WU done on time without juggling. First if you do the following then you do need to be sure your system is capable of safely using it (I would only do with a stock processor or a very modestly overclocked system) or else at the very least you will get invalid WUs or a dead system.

So as you get to your last WUs before the end, you just progressively suspend (not abort) WUs that will not finish in time that have the longest time to finish. So the WUs closer to finish get the benefit of turbo boost which can be considerable as the turbo boost Wikipedia entry notes that using 2.0GHz i7-920XM can reach 3.2GHz subject to limits on temperature, current and power consumption! So in this case, you could get the WU done in two-thirds of the time it would have normally taken.

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Message 26578 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010 | 22:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 26558.

How to make BOINC report completed work units immediately


Useful towards the end of a challenge perhaps, but a good way to ensure the server melts if too many people use it (especially if they leave their config this way)
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So the average cpu time is just under 90 hr.

My Boinc Manager is at around 52 hr run time and climbing.

As a side bet.


What time will the first WU post in at UTC

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26 Sept 2010 - 07:00 UTC


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Message 26582 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 1:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 26581.

As a side bet.


What time will the first WU post in at UTC

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26 Sept 2010 - 07:00 UTC


::ponders::

Ok, a blah blah blah, blah blahed to around blah, without blah, should take about blah hours to run one of these, and someone's probably running a machine like that. So I'll say:

26 Sep 2010, 06:00 UTC

Remarkably close to yours, so I guess we're thinking the same thing. :)
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Message 26583 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 5:54:43 UTC - in response to Message 26582.

Ok, a blah blah blah, blah blahed to around blah, without blah, should take about blah hours to run one of these, and someone's probably running a machine like that.

I think I'm running a machine close to the blah you have in mind, since I expect my first WUs to be finished at 26 Sep, 6:15 UTC. In the last challenge, I would have been the first one on the scoreboard with those setting (it wasn't without blah at that time, but this time it is), so maybe nobody is running a faster machine this time, too.
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Message 26585 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 6:27:04 UTC - in response to Message 26583.

Ok, a blah blah blah, blah blahed to around blah, without blah, should take about blah hours to run one of these, and someone's probably running a machine like that.

I think I'm running a machine close to the blah you have in mind, since I expect my first WUs to be finished at 26 Sep, 6:15 UTC. In the last challenge, I would have been the first one on the scoreboard with those setting (it wasn't without blah at that time, but this time it is), so maybe nobody is running a faster machine this time, too.


Sounds about right for the best normal time without going to extraordinary measures.

Pretty impressive, in my opinion.

Unfortunately, my fastest machine (which is less than half as fast as yours) is working on a PSP sieve badge rather than the challenge, so my first WU for the challenge should be done approximately 4-Oct.
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Message 26587 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 8:34:35 UTC

I think the first valid unit will be submitted 26 Sept 11:45 UTC
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Message 26589 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 10:17:11 UTC

I went and made sure I had swapped all my crunching around near start time. The server was slow with everyone doing the same thing so it took me about 10-15 minutes to get all 4 of my groups changed over.

I then come home to find power had gone out several hours before the challenge started so my machines were all stuck at login prompts and not crunching (I cannot install as a service because then GPU processing is not allowed). So I got about a 3+ hour delay getting everything online. While trying to control all the machines and make sure they were working I could not see 2 of my boxes, found out when the power came back on one of my circuit breakers kicked out so I had to turn that back on.

Finally I am about 13 hours into this and things look good. If I am lucky I will do about 3 units per core during this challenge.

Good luck to all the crunchers and teams. Let's hope your machines stay healthy and your work is good. Let us find at least one prime during this (and let it be me)!
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Message 26598 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 19:14:53 UTC
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24 hours in and 8 HotBox cores showing 20% done - so should be able to sqz 20 tasks with a little 'juggle'

- But when I checked my TThrottle graph, it showed an alarming 'blip' down to 55 in the otherwise flatline 73degC core-temps an hour ago - so I checked Boinc messages and found this..

2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Task psp_llr_59872228_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Task psp_llr_59872227_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Restarting task psp_llr_59872256_0 using llrPSP version 511
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Restarting task psp_llr_59872255_0 using llrPSP version 511

(-and the same for all 8 cores!)

This is rather disturbing... - What would cause all 8 tasks to simultaneously crash and restart? - Is it possible they'll now end up as duds in 4 days' time?
Should I trash them, reset the project, and start again??


... My bet on 'First-Post' would be:-
26 Sep 2010, 05:45 UTC
.. Based purely on the gut-feel that someone out there is bound to do it faster than the calculators predict!!
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Message 26600 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 20:39:59 UTC - in response to Message 26598.

do you have overclocked your cpu/memory?
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Message 26602 - Posted: 25 Sep 2010 | 22:14:03 UTC

Is it possible to add another column to the "Standings Stats"

Number of WU completed?

It would help us to better tell how far ahead or behind we are to each other

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Message 26607 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 3:58:28 UTC

Congrats to pschoefer for the first WU


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Message 26608 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 4:44:23 UTC - in response to Message 26607.

And the winning time is:

26 Sep 2010 3:57:34 UTC

That beat everyone's estimate by more than two hours. And it's almost exactly three times faster than my Core2Quad.

Color me jealous!
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Message 26610 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 5:30:08 UTC - in response to Message 26608.

And the winning time is:

26 Sep 2010 3:57:34 UTC

That beat everyone's estimate by more than two hours. And it's almost exactly three times faster than my Core2Quad.

Color me jealous!

Wow...nearly 2.5 hours earlier than pschoefer's own estimate! :-0 pschoefer, out of curiosity, what kind of CPU did you use for this? I'm surprised that there's anything out there that's 3x faster than a Core 2 Quad per-core.

(Also, one other thing: how the heck did this manage to get validated so fast? pschoefer's wingman would have to be just as fast!)
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Message 26611 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 5:46:00 UTC - in response to Message 26610.


(Also, one other thing: how the heck did this manage to get validated so fast? pschoefer's wingman would have to be just as fast!)


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Message 26613 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 6:24:24 UTC - in response to Message 26600.

do you have overclocked your cpu/memory?


Extremely minor overclock to 2.8Gig (from 2.6) with one notch up on core voltage (in the hope of a bit more stability) Nothing else touched.
- Experiments have shown I can get up to 3Gig before I start to lose it without raising any voltages, but have kept it down for this challenge!

Happened again at 01h00 (SAST)

- If an overclock was producing errors, I would expect individual tasks to crash... All tasks together looks like some sort of glitch in the manager...??

Re: - 26 Sep 2010 3:57:34 UTC ... Told u so!! - Pity there wasn't any REAL money on it!! - Congrats to pschoefer!


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The first WU was even faster, reported at 2:13:35 UTC with a runtime of 115841.38 sec (= 32 hours, 10 minutes, 41.38 seconds). The other five WUs had runtimes of about 122k sec and were reported at 3:57-3:58 UTC. :)

CPU: i7 980X @ 25*160 MHz = 4 GHz
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WU page shows anonymous platform, because I have to use an app_info.xml to get WUs for the GPUs (although the GPUs are not crunching during the challenge, CPU and room temperatures are already high enough ;)).

The machine passed many hours of p95 torture test and produced valid SoB results, so I'm quite optimistic that the PSP WUs will be validated, too. :)
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Message 26615 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 6:40:50 UTC

w00t!!!

I'm in equal second place (for now).

Nice one pschoefer.

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Message 26616 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 6:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 26610.
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Wow...nearly 2.5 hours earlier than pschoefer's own estimate! :-0 pschoefer, out of curiosity, what kind of CPU did you use for this? I'm surprised that there's anything out there that's 3x faster than a Core 2 Quad per-core.


A little detective-work on our winner's Computer-list shows..

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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz [Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 2]
(6 processors)

Last had contact at:- 26 Sep 2010 3:57:45 UTC

Coincidence? ... I think not!

- and I'll bet its an awful lot more than "mildly" overclocked! :D

...OOPs.. - just saw this post was pipped by the man himself!!
- Curses on my slow typing! :-)
...Congrats Again!
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Message 26619 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 7:34:57 UTC - in response to Message 26614.

The first WU was even faster, reported at 2:13:35 UTC with a runtime of 115841.38 sec (= 32 hours, 10 minutes, 41.38 seconds). The other five WUs had runtimes of about 122k sec and were reported at 3:57-3:58 UTC. :)

CPU: i7 980X @ 25*160 MHz = 4 GHz
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For comparison, my C2Q Q6600 at stock speed, crappy OEM memory (since replaced with faster RAM) comes in at 320,940.65 CPU seconds. I'm using CPU time, not elapsed time, because this machine does lots of stuff besides crunching. That's the lowest time of all the my PSP WUs still in the database.

Three times faster. That's screaming fast.
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Message 26622 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 8:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 26598.

When I checked my TThrottle graph, it showed an alarming 'blip' down to 55 in the otherwise flatline 73degC core-temps an hour ago - so I checked Boinc messages and found this..

2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Task psp_llr_59872228_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Task psp_llr_59872227_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Restarting task psp_llr_59872256_0 using llrPSP version 511
2010-09-25 19:54:27 PrimeGrid Restarting task psp_llr_59872255_0 using llrPSP version 511

(-and the same for all 8 cores!)

This is rather disturbing... - What would cause all 8 tasks to simultaneously crash and restart? - Is it possible they'll now end up as duds in 4 days' time?
Should I trash them, reset the project, and start again??

Nothing to worry about. Probably you have lost a few minutes for the restart from the last checkpoint.
Reason could be several:
Resetting your PC-clock by an outside time-server.
Indexing files.
Defragmenting disks.


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Message 26623 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 9:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 26614.

The first WU was even faster, reported at 2:13:35 UTC with a runtime of 115841.38 sec (= 32 hours, 10 minutes, 41.38 seconds). The other five WUs had runtimes of about 122k sec and were reported at 3:57-3:58 UTC. :)

CPU: i7 980X @ 25*160 MHz = 4 GHz
RAM: 6*2GiB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 CL9
MoBo: ASUS P6X58D-E
OS: Win7 Prof. x64
WU page shows anonymous platform, because I have to use an app_info.xml to get WUs for the GPUs (although the GPUs are not crunching during the challenge, CPU and room temperatures are already high enough ;)).

The machine passed many hours of p95 torture test and produced valid SoB results, so I'm quite optimistic that the PSP WUs will be validated, too. :)

Congratulations!

It seems that the memory bandwith (triple channel?) was large enough for 6 WUs. With the improvements of the new LLR version (3.8.2) it might have been possible to complete a WU in under 30 hours on your box.
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Message 26624 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 10:25:55 UTC
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The stats are blank again...
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Message 26626 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 11:06:26 UTC - in response to Message 26622.


Nothing to worry about. Probably you have lost a few minutes for the restart from the last checkpoint.
Reason could be several:
Resetting your PC-clock by an outside time-server.
Indexing files.
Defragmenting disks.


A clock-reset twice in one day?? ..And I'm certainly not doing anything to cause Files to be Indexed or Disks to be Defrag'd - ..But who knows what Win7 gets up to while we're not looking! :D

Good to hear my tasks should still be OK - All at 36% now - so estimate 4.6 days from start before I submit my first batch..

Perhaps u could explain why my Boinc [To Completion] col. is so badly out.. Showing 210 hours for running tasks and 646 hours for ready-to-start tasks on my i7 HotBox..??
- In Comparison, the (34%) running tasks on my Gateway laptop show 63 hours to completion and ready-to-start tasks show just 70 hours! - Are these hours perhaps being calculated with the aid of a random-number generator? ;-)

Just noticed the old man made User-of-the-Day!
- ..I am not worthy.... :-)

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Message 26627 - Posted: 26 Sep 2010 | 11:26:20 UTC - in response to Message 26626.

Perhaps u could explain why my Boinc [To Completion] col. is so badly out.. Showing 210 hours for running tasks and 646 hours for ready-to-start tasks on my i7 HotBox..??
- In Comparison, the (34%) running tasks on my Gateway laptop show 63 hours to completion and ready-to-start tasks show just 70 hours! - Are these hours perhaps being calculated with the aid of a random-number generator? ;-)

The runtime prediction doesn't work as it should if you crunch CPU and GPU WUs for PG on the same box, like you do on your Core i7 box.
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Message 26644 - Posted: 27 Sep 2010 | 18:03:17 UTC
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Hi all, my two WUs end with strange error

Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Out Of Memory (C++ Exception) (0xe06d7363) at address 0x75CBB727

http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=190142018
http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=190142257

this error seems, that maybe I have a problem with end of my first 2GB memory...but no memory doctor or test find anything...any idea? thanks..
i lost more than 80 hours of computing :-(

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Message 26650 - Posted: 28 Sep 2010 | 2:15:08 UTC - in response to Message 26644.

Hi all, my two WUs end with strange error

Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Out Of Memory (C++ Exception) (0xe06d7363) at address 0x75CBB727

http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=190142018
http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=190142257

this error seems, that maybe I have a problem with end of my first 2GB memory...but no memory doctor or test find anything...any idea? thanks..
i lost more than 80 hours of computing :-(

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Sorry that I can not be more helpful. but you are not the only one - a wingman for one of my WU got it. Unfortunately that host also has others as well. Also, I think I gotten this in the past with a SOB WU under Win 7 64-bit.

An apparent common factor is that these hosts are running Windows 7 64-bit. If that is the case, it implies some porting bug especially if Vista 64 bit systems do not have this problem. It might useful to identify what operating systems are involved.

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You are right i have W7 ultimate 64 bit...another 4 WUs are working...i hope it will be done fast enough...
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Message 26658 - Posted: 28 Sep 2010 | 18:52:53 UTC - in response to Message 26622.


Nothing to worry about. Probably you have lost a few minutes for the restart from the last checkpoint.
Reason could be several:
Resetting your PC-clock by an outside time-server.
Indexing files.
Defragmenting disks.



Is there a problem with checkpointing on these PSP LLR tasks? After two days and about 35% progress, my laptop rebooted itself and when it restarted, BOINC restarted the two workunits that had been in progress from 0%, losing two days of work on each.
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Message 26659 - Posted: 28 Sep 2010 | 21:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 26658.

Is there a problem with checkpointing on these PSP LLR tasks? After two days and about 35% progress, my laptop rebooted itself and when it restarted, BOINC restarted the two workunits that had been in progress from 0%, losing two days of work on each.

There is very regularly checkpointing, so normal shutdown and reboot is not a problem. However I always first stop the boinc client, before shutting down.

Uncontrolled rebooting is always tricky, because the processes could be in a wrong state or just busy writing to disk.
There is only 1 checkpoint saved. If this is written incorrectly the task will start from scratch.
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Message 26660 - Posted: 28 Sep 2010 | 22:34:42 UTC

I have a question:
most tasks need a second computer to verify my results.
If i have the task done and the other computer is so slow, that it does not finish before the deadline, i am not going to get any credits?

If that is so, even the fastest computer cannot be the first to get credited, if a slow computer is co-computing.
So everything is just pure luck?
This sounds very unfair to me.

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Message 26662 - Posted: 28 Sep 2010 | 22:58:19 UTC - in response to Message 26660.

You will get the credit after they have two matching results.
Sometimes this takes a long time, but you will get credit after a matching result.. Good luck.......... Jack

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Message 26663 - Posted: 28 Sep 2010 | 23:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 26660.

I have a question:
most tasks need a second computer to verify my results.
If i have the task done and the other computer is so slow, that it does not finish before the deadline, i am not going to get any credits?

If that is so, even the fastest computer cannot be the first to get credited, if a slow computer is co-computing.
So everything is just pure luck?
This sounds very unfair to me.



It depends on what kind of credit you meant. There's BOINC credit, and there's Calendula Challenge credit. The two have different rules.

In both cases, however, if you return a valid result before the deadline, you will eventually get credit no matter what the other computers do.

For BOINC credit, nobody gets credit until the quorum is reached. Usually you need two computers to agree on a result. Whether it's a day or a year, you'll have to wait until someone else completes the same WU. But you will eventually get credit.

For the Challenge credit, you get credit immediately as soon as you return it. The credit doesn't wait for confirmation from the other computer. However, if your result is eventually determined to be invalid, the Challenge points will be deducted from you.
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Message 26665 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010 | 5:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 26659.

Fortunately, the checkpointing on my i7 HotBox works a treat! - My regular daily 'glitch' hasn't killed any of my 'babies' yet! - coming up for 97% on the first 8. - Should be 'all grown up' and 'fleeing the nest' to make room for the next batch before lunchtime!

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Message 26667 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010 | 13:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 26665.

is there a credit cap @3.300 ??

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Message 26668 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010 | 13:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 26667.
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is there a credit cap @3.300 ??

Yes. It appears the Challenge is increasing n rather quickly and credit is starting to hit the limit. It has been increased to 3900 now. We'll monitor for the rest of the Challenge and increase as necessary. Thanks for noticing it!
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Message 26669 - Posted: 29 Sep 2010 | 15:00:10 UTC - in response to Message 26668.

thanks for fixing it!

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Message 26671 - Posted: 30 Sep 2010 | 4:40:27 UTC

w00t!!!

The mighty Aggie The Pew (may her shadow never grow less) is in 59th first place (for now).

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Message 26672 - Posted: 30 Sep 2010 | 5:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 26668.

is there a credit cap @3.300 ??

Yes. It appears the Challenge is increasing n rather quickly and credit is starting to hit the limit. It has been increased to 3900 now. We'll monitor for the rest of the Challenge and increase as necessary. Thanks for noticing it!


It looks like I already have 3 WUs validated that hit that limit as well.

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Message 26678 - Posted: 30 Sep 2010 | 7:55:56 UTC

Same here, every Wu that's Validated for me so far has either hit the 3,300 or 3,900 Credit limit just running at stock speeds except for 1 box ...

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Message 26684 - Posted: 30 Sep 2010 | 15:03:40 UTC

I downloaded all my race work at the start of the race, or close to it; and even one of my WUs has hit the 3900 limit!
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Message 26693 - Posted: 30 Sep 2010 | 20:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 26684.

I downloaded all my race work at the start of the race, or close to it; and even one of my WUs has hit the 3900 limit!


Same here.


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Message 26698 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010 | 2:06:36 UTC
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Hey, I am starting to get No work available messages back from the server on multiple hosts.... let out some WUs!
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Message 26699 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010 | 2:19:15 UTC - in response to Message 26698.

Do you get work now ??

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Nope...

Thu Sep 30 19:21:46 2010 PrimeGrid Message from server: _("No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your project preferences on the web site.")


I double and triple checked the only project I have selected is the challenge project in all of my project settings.
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Tour de Primes 2009Tour de Primes 2009Tour de Primes 2010Tour de Primes 2010321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 26701 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010 | 2:38:26 UTC - in response to Message 26700.

Nope...

Thu Sep 30 19:21:46 2010 PrimeGrid Message from server: _("No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your project preferences on the web site.")


I double and triple checked the only project I have selected is the challenge project in all of my project settings.



Strange I can see work going out !! Do you not get any now ?

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Message 26702 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010 | 9:15:20 UTC - in response to Message 26701.

looks like they have work now... I guess since it was quite a few servers coming online, it took a bit for them to all get some.
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Message 26715 - Posted: 1 Oct 2010 | 19:42:38 UTC - in response to Message 26678.

Same here, every Wu that's Validated for me so far has either hit the 3,300 or 3,900 Credit limit just running at stock speeds except for 1 box ...



+1

Any update on increasing the credit limit?
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Message 26717 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010 | 1:43:42 UTC - in response to Message 26715.

So far 30 of my WUs have been validated:
16 at 3,900
12 at 3,300
The last two are 3,793.33 and 3,860.79!

Perhaps the only good thing is that these are less than requested credit. But if you are going to fix credit for the challenge all WUs should get the same since not everyone has an overclocked i7 980X :-) (Not that I can complain since one host is still doing just under 220K seconds without overclocking.)

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Message 26719 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010 | 11:07:45 UTC

Hi,
I suggest to add a 100hour countdown timer to the calendula timer.
Good idea???

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Message 26720 - Posted: 2 Oct 2010 | 11:40:18 UTC

wow, the top3 teams are getting closer to another
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Message 26733 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010 | 2:42:19 UTC

The new cap must be 4500, since I have maxed out at that limit on a few already....
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Message 26735 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010 | 4:39:24 UTC

Just finished my second workunit in the challenge--now on the third. Unfortunately, it will miss the deadline by about a day. :-( Oh well--it will still be enough to finish off a PSP LLR bronze badge. :-D
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Message 26738 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010 | 9:02:58 UTC - in response to Message 26733.

The new cap must be 4500, since I have maxed out at that limit on a few already....



That's correct ! But I am not sure it should be that high :)

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Message 26745 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010 | 14:47:15 UTC

Regarding credit given for these work units...

I'm noticing that the PSP LLR credit given during the competition is giving me 3300 or 3900 (like most others).

Over the past couple months, I've studied which PG projects give the best "credit return on time investment".

The data (which accounts for averaging both the credit given and time spent, data is specific to one machine):

PSP LLR: 0.015 credit/sec
Reisel LLR: 0.011
PPS LLR: 0.010
SOB LLR: 0.009
321 LLR: 0.010
Cullen LLR: 0.007

So maybe Lennart is right about now wanting to boost the PSP credit any further... seems like it's already an outlier for LLR's.

And I don't know who Jeff17 is, but GOOOOOOO Jeff17! (I like rooting for people who don't hide their computers.) I might be an AMD guy but Jeff17 has some incredible hardware.

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Message 26746 - Posted: 3 Oct 2010 | 16:24:07 UTC - in response to Message 26745.

And I don't know who Jeff17 is, but GOOOOOOO Jeff17! (I like rooting for people who don't hide their computers.) I might be an AMD guy but Jeff17 has some incredible hardware.


Thanks kto.
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Message 26760 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 3:36:01 UTC

3 days remain!

The flowers are starting to loose their fragrance and their petals are falling. Unfortunately, the long sought after golden flower has yet to bloom. :(

With 3 days left, it's time to start crunching those last tasks and emptying the cache. For those "moving on" after the Challenge AND have their last WU's processing, now would be a good time to set no new work.

Please update your clients early and often to get those completed WU's reported and counted. Don't wait till the end with a large cache of results to submit.

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Final Preparations

A quorum of 2 is NOT needed to award Challenge score - i.e. no double checker. Each returned result will earn a Challenge score. Please note that if the result is eventually declared invalid, the score will be removed. Therefore, the Challenge will not be considered final until all quorum's affecting scoring positions are completed. Because of this, we have a "clean up" period where the goal is to complete these quorums.

We expect this "clean-up" to take quite some time, but we hope for the best. If everyone can remember to either complete their cache or ABORT their WU's, then we'll be able to finalize earlier rather than later. With the amount of work being completed, expect at least 4-6 weeks before results become final.

If you have the resources, please consider helping in the "clean-up" process after the end. However, we fully understand the need/desire to "move on."

Good Luck to everyone...

At the Conclusion of the Challenge

    We kindly ask users "moving on" to ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

    ABORTING WU's allows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

    Please consider either COMPLETING what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)


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Message 26761 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 8:25:03 UTC

Just to say I've really enjoyed this one. A truly sporting event. There have been WUs crashing after considerable processing (I just lost 8!), there have been cunning calculations about whether and how one can squeeze in a last WU or not and now we are on tenterhooks waiting to see what the competition are doing. Unlike the events with shorter WUs it is hard to predict the final outcome. Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for organising.

Now I must try and work out why my computers are so slow dealing with these WUs.

Cheers!

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Message 26767 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 13:10:44 UTC - in response to Message 26761.

Just to say I've really enjoyed this one. A truly sporting event. There have been WUs crashing after considerable processing (I just lost 8!), there have been cunning calculations about whether and how one can squeeze in a last WU or not and now we are on tenterhooks waiting to see what the competition are doing. Unlike the events with shorter WUs it is hard to predict the final outcome. Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for organising.

Now I must try and work out why my computers are so slow dealing with these WUs.

Cheers!

T

I also just had a crash (Out of Memory Exception). The problem appears to be in the "wrapper" program -- the actual "exe" program is still running! You might check to see if you still have phantom "exe" running for your crashes -- might be why running slow.


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Message 26768 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 13:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 26761.

Just to say I've really enjoyed this one. A truly sporting event.


I have to agree. Even though my faster machines are sitting this one out (they're sprinting to a PSP Sieve badge before the deadline on the 13th), I've got some suspense and drama on one of the slow machines.

It just finished a WU, slightly beating the 10-day execution time I was predicting for it. The validation was inconclusive, however, so one of the two computers had an error somewhere.

That's not extremely unusual for LLR's of this length, in general, but both my computer and my wingman's computer have a history of completing LLRs correctly. It's not obvious which computer was likely to be right and which was wrong.

Furthermore, the third computer that was just assigned this WU to be the tiebreaker DOES have a history of lots of computing errors, so there's a good chance it will end up going to at least a fourth computer.

Suspense and drama!
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Message 26769 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 13:52:51 UTC
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At the beginning of the challenge I finished WU's in 66-75 hours on 5 different machines. Now they all need more time (95-100 hours).
I rebooted them, but no difference.
How is this possible? Are the WU's larger?

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Message 26770 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 14:20:13 UTC - in response to Message 26769.

At the beginning of the challenge I finished WU's in 66-75 hours on 5 different machines. Now they all need more time (95-100 hours).
I rebooted them, but no difference.
How is this possible? Are the WU's larger?



As the challenge goes on the tested numbers become bigger rather quickly and therefore the tests are getting longer. The difference seems to be rather large in your case though.
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Message 26771 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 14:33:04 UTC - in response to Message 26770.

At the beginning of the challenge I finished WU's in 66-75 hours on 5 different machines. Now they all need more time (95-100 hours).
I rebooted them, but no difference.
How is this possible? Are the WU's larger?



As the challenge goes on the tested numbers become bigger rather quickly and therefore the tests are getting longer. The difference seems to be rather large in your case though.


Purely a guess on my part: The way that primality testing works isn't entirely intuitive. Who would think that FFTs (Fast Fourier Transforms) would be used to search for prime numbers? Nevertheless, FFTs are used. Therein lies one possible explanation for the big jump in execution time.

The FFTs are absolutely huge, and the exact size is determined by the size of the number being tested. FFT lengths are done in certain specific sizes, so as the prime candidate grows, eventually it crosses a threshold where the FFT size jumps up. When this happens, the execution time jumps up significantly also.

That may be what happened here.

That's just one of many possibilities. Another is that the range of numbers being tested may have simply skipped over a set of numbers we don't need to test, so we're abruptly testing significantly higher numbers.

The simplest explanation is that we just crunched so many of these that we significantly advanced the threshold where we're testing, thus increasing the execution time.
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Message 26776 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 17:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 26735.

Just finished my second workunit in the challenge--now on the third. Unfortunately, it will miss the deadline by about a day. :-( Oh well--it will still be enough to finish off a PSP LLR bronze badge. :-D

Hmm, would you know...oddly enough, it looks like this one will complete before the end of the challenge after all. There's about 73 hours left on the challenge, and 56 hours left on the WU. (That's calculated manually based on the time taken so far and the % complete, not based on BOINC's estimate which fluctuates wildly.)

What makes this rather strange is that my previous two workunits, for 222113*2^10154453+1 and 237019*2^10222522+1, finished in about 87 and 110 hours respectively. Yet my current WU is for 225931*2^10657208+1 and is going to take 86 hours total. Huh? That doesn't make sense...it's going to take about the same time as a workunit with lower n and lower k. And I've confirmed that all 3 numbers use the same FFT length (1280K) so that can't be it.

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Message 26781 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 20:06:49 UTC - in response to Message 26776.
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Just finished my second workunit in the challenge--now on the third. Unfortunately, it will miss the deadline by about a day. :-( Oh well--it will still be enough to finish off a PSP LLR bronze badge. :-D

Hmm, would you know...oddly enough, it looks like this one will complete before the end of the challenge after all. There's about 73 hours left on the challenge, and 56 hours left on the WU. (That's calculated manually based on the time taken so far and the % complete, not based on BOINC's estimate which fluctuates wildly.)

What makes this rather strange is that my previous two workunits, for 222113*2^10154453+1 and 237019*2^10222522+1, finished in about 87 and 110 hours respectively. Yet my current WU is for 225931*2^10657208+1 and is going to take 86 hours total. Huh? That doesn't make sense...it's going to take about the same time as a workunit with lower n and lower k. And I've confirmed that all 3 numbers use the same FFT length (1280K) so that can't be it.


222113*2^10154453+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1024


237019*2^10222522+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1280

225931*2^10657208+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1024
:)

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Message 26784 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 20:36:40 UTC - in response to Message 26781.

222113*2^10154453+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1024


237019*2^10222522+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1280

225931*2^10657208+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1024
:)

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Interesting. This would seem to be a difference between PFGW and LLR, since I used PFGW 3.3.6 with the -F switch to come up with my initial figures. Just now I confirmed that 3.3.5 also uses 1280K for all three tests--which is strange, since LLR 3.8.1 and PFGW 3.3.5 use the same gwnum version and should use the same FFT length.

Even more strangely, LLR 3.8.1 on my computer also uses 1280K for all three numbers:
Starting Proth prime test of 222113*2^10154453+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1280K, a = 3

Starting Proth prime test of 237019*2^10222522+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1280K, a = 3

Starting Proth prime test of 225931*2^10657208+1
Using zero-padded FFT length 1280K, a = 3

Which version of LLR did you use for your test?

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Message 26787 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010 | 21:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 26784.

I have used the version we have in Boinc. 3.7.1
on a C2D

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I have used the version we have in Boinc. 3.7.1
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Ah, okay, that would explain it. I get the same results you do when I try it with 3.7.1c.

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Message 26789 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 4:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 26768.

[quote]Furthermore, the third computer that was just assigned this WU to be the tiebreaker DOES have a history of lots of computing errors, so there's a good chance it will end up going to at least a fourth computer.

Suspense and drama!

I don't think I've ever seen three computers come up with three completely different answers on a WU...until now! Of course, that one at the bottom has the correct answer; the server just doesn't know it yet. ;)
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[quote]Furthermore, the third computer that was just assigned this WU to be the tiebreaker DOES have a history of lots of computing errors, so there's a good chance it will end up going to at least a fourth computer.

Suspense and drama!

I don't think I've ever seen three computers come up with three completely different answers on a WU...until now! Of course, that one at the bottom has the correct answer; the server just doesn't know it yet. ;)



So Ken_g6,

I think you have come up with a good wager.

Now we have a good use of those valuable cobblestones we have.

We just need to setup a Cobblestone Casino.

Off shore, of course, so we don't pay any taxes on the winnings.

Steve Martin

ps A 13 day challenge is getting to me, just a bit :)
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wow its getting exciting - Team Hankey&Mumps has overtaken SETI.Germany
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Message 26796 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 9:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 26794.

wow its getting exciting - Team Hankey&Mumps has overtaken SETI.Germany


We wouldn't be able to touch SG if it wasn't for the rest of the team... every WU from every member is going to make the difference for the finish, but do we have enough to reach the end in 1st? The die is cast.

GO TEAM SETI.USA!
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Message 26800 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 14:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 26769.

At the beginning of the challenge I finished WU's in 66-75 hours on 5 different machines. Now they all need more time (95-100 hours).
I rebooted them, but no difference.
How is this possible? Are the WU's larger?



To follow up on my, and others', replies, we've collectively done a LOT of crunching, and the 'n' number appears to have gone up by almost half a million during the first four days of this challenge! That's certainly responsible for part of the lengthening of the run times.

A WU I got when the challenge started on the 24th had an 'n' of 10.00 million. I just looked at a WU given out on the 28th -- 4 days after the start, and 7 days ago -- and the 'n' was 10.44 million. If that pace holds, we will advance 'n' by about 1.5 million during the challenge.

Looking at the project statistics, the 'n' are up around 10.75 million right now.

That's a lot of progress.
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Message 26802 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 17:45:24 UTC - in response to Message 26796.

wow its getting exciting - Team Hankey&Mumps has overtaken SETI.Germany


We wouldn't be able to touch SG if it wasn't for the rest of the team... every WU from every member is going to make the difference for the finish, but do we have enough to reach the end in 1st? The die is cast.

GO TEAM SETI.USA!

My 6th WU may be the difference. :-D

Hope I get it in in time.

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Message 26808 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 19:59:24 UTC
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now the action is going on

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Message 26810 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 20:41:47 UTC - in response to Message 26808.

It's clear that every single WU may make a difference. This is interesting!

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Message 26813 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 21:48:17 UTC
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As of:
2010 10 05 21:45:24 about 44 + hours to go

looks like SETI.USA is up by 4-5 WU's

GO SETI.USA
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Message 26818 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 23:08:13 UTC

I'm a bit mystified how this person >>> http://www.primegrid.com/hosts_user.php?userid=24128 with only 1 Computer attached to the Project can amass over 7 Million in Challenge Credits and 54 Million total Project Credit. I'm sure it's all good but it still mystifies me ...

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Message 26819 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 23:25:26 UTC - in response to Message 26818.

I'm a bit mystified how this person >>> http://www.primegrid.com/hosts_user.php?userid=24128 with only 1 Computer attached to the Project can amass over 7 Million in Challenge Credits and 54 Million total Project Credit. I'm sure it's all good but it still mystifies me ...


Puzzle Peter has a large bank of powerful machines offline that normally crunch things in the project staging area...looks like he turned them all on to the challenge this time.


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Message 26820 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 23:41:49 UTC

That's what I figured, it could have been the only way with only 1 Box Attached, like I said it was all good ...

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Message 26821 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010 | 23:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 26819.

Yes, that one machine is used to download/upload work, which is farmed out to other machines to do the actual crunching. I'm sure the scripts that do this include some neat tricks to avoid upsetting the server.
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Message 26826 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 5:51:38 UTC

Hi ADMIN
The following is from one of my boxs:
06/10/2010 1:33:05 p.m. PrimeGrid Computation for task psp_llr_59875307_2 finished
06/10/2010 1:33:07 p.m. PrimeGrid Started upload of psp_llr_59875307_2_0
06/10/2010 1:33:09 p.m. PrimeGrid Finished upload of psp_llr_59875307_2_0
06/10/2010 3:11:18 p.m. PrimeGrid update requested by user
06/10/2010 3:11:20 p.m. PrimeGrid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
06/10/2010 3:11:20 p.m. PrimeGrid Reporting 1 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
06/10/2010 3:11:24 p.m. PrimeGrid Scheduler request completed
that WU was still siting "Ready to report" and I manually undated as normal
at 3-15pm my total in the challenge was 4812332.
at 5-30pm my total had decreased by 34969 = 1 WU
Could someone please explain?
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at 3-15pm my total in the challenge was 4812332.
at 5-30pm my total had decreased by 34969 = 1 WU
Could someone please explain?
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One of your WUs was marked as invalid. When this happens, the challenge credit from that WU is deducted from your total.
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Message 26828 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 6:37:33 UTC - in response to Message 26827.

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Message 26829 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 8:16:59 UTC

I've had 2 Invalids so far, both off the same Box and turned in within a minute of each other, have no idea what happened there ...

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Message 26844 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 17:39:10 UTC

Just completed my third and final workunit for the challenge...now on to PSP Sieve to get my bronze badge before that one goes bye-bye. :-)

Meanwhile, my PSP LLR bronze badge should be coming in any time now...just waiting on my wingman to finish at this point.

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Message 26846 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 17:57:19 UTC

Only a couple of further tasks likely to squeak in under the deadline.. - Looks like I'll have quite a few that just don't make it!
All my careful planning & juggling went belly-up as I failed to factor-in the extra time required for those much longer tasks towards the end!
- so no top-100 spot likely for me this challenge - :-(

That's the way the cookie crumbles!

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Message 26847 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 18:12:48 UTC - in response to Message 26846.

All my careful planning & juggling went belly-up as I failed to factor-in the extra time required for those much longer tasks towards the end!

It worked for me, because I downloaded all my WUs for the challenge at the start.

Thanks for suggesting it! I plan to use it in future challenges as well.

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Message 26848 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 18:28:40 UTC

Less than 24 hours remain!

Time to get those last tasks turned in and start emptying the cache. For those "moving on" after the Challenge it's best to abort the remaining tasks in your cache that are not in progress. For those remaining, continue on as usual. :)

Please update your clients early and often to get those completed WU's reported and counted. Don't wait till the end with a large cache of results to submit.
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Message 26850 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 18:37:26 UTC - in response to Message 26846.
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Only a couple of further tasks likely to squeak in under the deadline.. - Looks like I'll have quite a few that just don't make it!
All my careful planning & juggling went belly-up as I failed to factor-in the extra time required for those much longer tasks towards the end!
- so no top-100 spot likely for me this challenge - :-(


I didn't do too badly. I have one WU that will finish a couple of hours late and another a day late, but many that should finish in the final 3 hours, and a bit of careful suspend/resume operations managed to make a quad that would have done 4 WUs and then miss with the next 4 will now manage 7 before the deadline hits. Overall, I guessed I'd do 42 WUs, and it looks like I'll get 45 (plus the 2 stragglers). I even managed to get good behaviour out of my laptop without altering my behaviour - 2 WUs in windows and 4 WUs under Wubi.

Much better than usual, and I think I'll get some points this time.

Oh and 1 more validation gets me PSP LLR Gold too! (managed to sneak TRP Sieve Gold in during the challenge too)
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Message 26853 - Posted: 6 Oct 2010 | 19:13:26 UTC

I did a little less than I had expected. I expected 57 (19 cores * 3), I have 40 so far good ones in, 1 invalid and 6 that should all hopefully make it by the end (1 or 2 may not, unless there is an unforeseeable outage of some type before this ends).

I still should be in the top 100 for the 2nd time on any challenge (although there are people that hold their stuff to right at the end and could drastically change things).

Great job everyone. We still have a chance that we found a Prime, time will tell.


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It worked for me, because I downloaded all my WUs for the challenge at the start.
Thanks for suggesting it! I plan to use it in future challenges as well.


I tried really hard to do that as well, but because of (I think) BOINC Manager's pathetic estimation of time to completion (thousands of hours in some cases!), it stupidly reckoned I had way more than 10 days' work in the first 8 tasks! - so I had to wait until they were half-done before I got any more..!

- So if it is the GPU task causing this problem, would making it separate from the CPU tasks solve this problem???

- Or is there some trick to downloading more than 10 days' worth that I don't know about???
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Message 26875 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010 | 7:53:42 UTC
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I managed to complete 30 with 3 still to come.
Almost a top100 spot, so not bad for my first real challenge :D
I would have ended higher if I had some more WU's in my cache.
But good lesson for the next time.
I am happy with it.

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Message 26890 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010 | 15:29:48 UTC

Don't you just love those WU's that last 1-10mins longer then the challenge time...Argh! This challenge was a pretty good gut check to my machine. Glad to see that the next ones will not be as bad :D. Good job all!

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Message 26893 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010 | 17:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 26890.

Don't you just love those WU's that last 1-10mins longer then the challenge time...Argh! This challenge was a pretty good gut check to my machine. Glad to see that the next ones will not be as bad :D. Good job all!


I know the feeling. The flux capacitor on the AGGIETASTIC quantum computer won't activate and we are not having much luck bribing people with offers of being widdled on by the rat girls.

It looks like first place may just elude us this time. Hasta la vista, baby!

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And thanks to all for making it so much fun.

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"SteveRC" wrote:
- So if it is the GPU task causing this problem, would making it separate from the CPU tasks solve this problem???
I mean it is due to very very bad adjusting of the GPU tasks's estimated time. The same problem switching the Boinc core to CPU panic mode AP26 CUDA tasks did. There is no way how to correct that issue on the user side as Boinc developers can't use two DCF for CPU/GPU tasks or two buffers (CPU and GPU operated separately). The only way is to adjust the estimate time on the server side corretly.

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Message 26897 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010 | 20:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 26890.

Don't you just love those WU's that last 1-10mins longer then the challenge time...Argh! This challenge was a pretty good gut check to my machine. Glad to see that the next ones will not be as bad :D. Good job all!

Or 38 seconds which one of mine did 19:00:38.

Oh well, still a good showing for me.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (22,795)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,087)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (105,532)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (53,996)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (34,455)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,626)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,209)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,601)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,413)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,376)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,541,362)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,162,986)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (33,358)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,414)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,416)
Message 26898 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010 | 20:34:07 UTC

Congratulations to SETI.GERMANY. That was well played.

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Message 26899 - Posted: 7 Oct 2010 | 20:48:51 UTC

Thanks trigggl! You gave us quite a bit of a headache, we switched positions too many times for me to sleep well ;) That made it a lot of fun even though the WUs were long and there wasn't as much action as with the shorter ones.

Thank you to all participants for making this a fun event and for doing a hell of a lot of work on these not so popular long running tasks.
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Message 26902 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010 | 0:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 26850.

Overall, I guessed I'd do 42 WUs, and it looks like I'll get 45 (plus the 2 stragglers).


Even one of those stragglers reported in with 8 minutes to go to gain me an extra place.
So, 46 plus Gold for me.

Well done all!
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Message 26903 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010 | 0:52:04 UTC



Yep, GJ to SG!

Consolation prize I did go from no badge to ruby badge (at least once everything validates) ..... now to go grab the ruby badge for the PSP sieve project before that closes down.
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Message 26904 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010 | 1:12:38 UTC

Congratulations to the unofficial winners SG and whizbang.

I agree with the other posts this was an exciting challenge even with the long running work. I can't recall that much position movement at the top in quite a while.
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Message 26906 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010 | 3:00:01 UTC
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Preliminary data

For such a marathon of a Challenge, it was exciting to see the many close battles taking place. What's amazing is how close the top two spots were for both the team and individual categories. Although no one found the golden flower (PSP prime), excellent progress was made advancing the search.

While the Challenge is officially over, the "clean up" process now begins. If you have the resources to help, please see: The "Clean Up" Phase below. All that is required is to continue crunching Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) to complete the aborted and timed-out resends.

Official results are probably 6-8 weeks away, but here is some preliminary data to ponder. :)

Approximately 14.5K tasks (7.25K WU's) were completed resulting in over 560M Challenge points awarded. Basically, n advanced by over 750K!!! That's an incredible accomplishment at the 10M level.

148 teams and 901 individuals participated in the Challenge.

Thank you to everyone. We appreciate your participation and hope you had fun!

The preliminary top 5 in each category are listed below. Note: scores are not final as tasks later determined to be invalid will be deducted from the total score.

Top 5 Teams 1 SETI.Germany 77780071.75 2 SETI.USA 74010100.75 3 Sicituradastra. 49079830.58 4 BOINCstats 41387945.51 5 Team 2ch 29258738.56 Top 5 Individuals 1 whizbang Ars Technica 23767628.48 2 Mr. Hankey SETI.USA 23176959.57 3 Jeff17 BOINCstats 22817850.65 4 Mumps SETI.USA 18121385.19 5 Snf Sicituradastra. 16891647.16


The "Clean Up" Phase

Past observation has shown that a quick "clean up" phase is primarily based on how many "timed out" tasks there are. However, this "clean up" will be anything but quick. Immediately after the Challenge, the initial "clean up" handles all the aborted tasks. Then, for the next 14 days, "timed out" tasks are the focus of the "clean up". After those 14 days, then tasks that have "timed out" twice will be the focus...and so on. The Challenge will not be considered final until all quorums affecting scoring positions are completed.

The dilemma of only doing Challenge tasks is that after the initial "clean up" of aborted tasks, the buffer would remain at 0 until a "timed out" task was returned. Hosts that only have PSP LLR selected would sit idle until a "timed out" task was recycled. Therefore, work is always made available to keep hosts from going idle.

A couple of measures are taken to maximize the opportunity for Challenge tasks to be sent out first and to minimize new work. First, new work will have a longer deadline. The task with the shorter deadline will be crunched first. Second, the buffer will be set initially at 50 so that at most, there's only 50 new tasks at any given time.

If one participates in the "clean up", almost certainly new work will be processed. To minimize this, observe the following key times:

  • Any time the PSP Prime Search (LLR) buffer on the front page is above 50, resends are available.
  • Most work sent out right after the Challenge completes will be recycled "aborted tasks"...most likely for the first 24-48 hours.
  • 14 days (21 Oct 18:00 UTC) after the Challenge completes, another wave of resends typically are available ("timed out" from abandoned tasks at the end of the Challenge).


As long as the buffer on the front page is at 50 or below, there's enough resources participating in the "clean up". Additional resources will not speed up the process.

We greatly appreciate any help in the "clean-up" process. However, we fully understand the need/desire to "move on".
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Message 26916 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010 | 16:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 26906.

Preliminary data

Top 5 Individuals 1 whizbang Ars Technica 23767628.48 2 Mr. Hankey SETI.USA 23176959.57 3 Jeff17 BOINCstats 22817850.65 4 Mumps SETI.USA 18121385.19 5 Snf Sicituradastra. 16891647.16



The same list that shows the above information shows me at
#369 and 221K of credits. Since I did only 6 tasks for this challenge
I do wonder if the list is reflecting my total year's work instead of
the work I did for this past Challenge.

The Participants link is as follows;
http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2010_7/top_users.html

Is this above link the one you got the Preliminary data from?
That is the link I got my info from, and it is the one that is on
the home page for PG under the Challenge.

So when is the correct info for my standings for this challenge #7
going to be posted? At 3,900 to 4,500 credits per task, my actual
credits for 6 tasks during challenge #7 should be about 24,235.83
instead of 221K as the link shows.

any thoughts about what went wrong with my listing?
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any thoughts about what went wrong with my listing?



LLR challenges use the "prime score" method rather than BOINC credits (see the "scoring information" section of the first post).
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any thoughts about what went wrong with my listing?

Yes. The challenge points are not BOINC credits. You can find a description how challenge points (the prime score method) are calculated here.
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Message 26919 - Posted: 8 Oct 2010 | 16:52:37 UTC
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Challenge Points != Credits

3900-4500 Credits per WU
~38000 Challenge Points per WU

We will use the "prime score" method which is based on k,b,n values (k*b^n-1) to score the challenge. The only difference is that the primary and double checker of a WU will receive the same score.

Therefore, each completed WU will earn a unique score based on its k,b,n values. The higher the n, the higher the score. This is different than BOINC cobblestones! A quorum of 2 is NOT needed to award Challenge score - i.e. no double checker. Therefore, each returned result will earn a Challenge score. Please note that if the result is eventually declared invalid, the score will be removed.

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Message 26941 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010 | 18:17:00 UTC
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Clean up Progress

Well, the clean up process has begun and we have our work cut out for us. This will be by far the most "challenging" clean up period we've experienced. Patience in truck loads will be needed to pass the time. Because of this, the Overall Standings (Teams | Individuals) will be updated based on "preliminary data" and therefore, will be Unofficial.

Currently there are 4334 outstanding Challenge tasks, of which, 2877 are in scoring positions...affecting the outcome in 46 team positions and 99 individual positions.

NOTE: As long as the buffer on the front page is at 50 or below, there's enough resources participating in the "clean up". Additional resources will not speed up the process.

Thanks to everyone for helping out with the clean up.

History
09 Oct: 4334 WU's outstanding; 2877 in scoring positions
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Message 26942 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010 | 20:21:32 UTC - in response to Message 26906.

What will the deadline be for cleanup tasks vs. new tasks?

Thanks,
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Message 26943 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010 | 20:47:56 UTC - in response to Message 26942.

What will the deadline be for cleanup tasks vs. new tasks?

Thanks,
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Don't forget not everything has an overclocked i7 inside of it.

My slower machines took 10 days to do a PSP WU crunching 24/7. If you shorten the deadlines you reduce the time wasted on abandoned WUs, but you waste processing power computing redundant results because slower computers are missing the deadlines.
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Message 26944 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010 | 20:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 26942.

What will the deadline be for cleanup tasks vs. new tasks?

Challenge tasks, and thus cleanup tasks, are set at 14 days. New tasks returned to normal at 21 days.

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Message 26947 - Posted: 9 Oct 2010 | 23:13:05 UTC - in response to Message 26944.

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Message 26988 - Posted: 11 Oct 2010 | 14:59:06 UTC

Clean up Progress

Currently there are 3516 outstanding Challenge tasks, of which, 2343 are in scoring positions...affecting the outcome in 44 team positions and 97 individual positions.

NOTE: As long as the buffer on the front page is at 50 or below, there's enough resources participating in the "clean up". Additional resources will not speed up the process. However, currently, the buffer is above 1000.

Thanks to everyone for helping out with the clean up.

History
11 Oct: 3516 WU's outstanding; 2343 in scoring positions
09 Oct: 4334 WU's outstanding; 2877 in scoring positions
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Message 27025 - Posted: 12 Oct 2010 | 12:48:12 UTC

I see the clean up progress is already making changes in the ranks.

To quote a "Weird Al" song, "I'm move up, up the corporate ladder. It's dog eat dog."


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Message 27048 - Posted: 13 Oct 2010 | 19:24:38 UTC

About the cleanup...

Even though my "big" machine was finishing up the PSP Sieve rather than participating this challenge, I'm helping with the cleanup. Which reveals something kinda interesting...

The quad core gets 4 WUs, and two of them were as expected: 1 valid result along with a mixed bag of time-outs and aborted WUs. So in 4 days when my machine finishes, those two will be cleaned up.

The other two are different: They have NO valid results yet. While they do, obviously, need to be done eventually, they clearly have no bearing on the Challenge standings.

Would it be possible to prioritize the order in which the WUs get sent out so that WUs with one valid result (which might affect the Challenge standings) get sent before those with no valid results? This would help us clean up the results quicker, especially if my 50/50 split is indicative of the data set as a whole.
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Message 27049 - Posted: 13 Oct 2010 | 19:33:20 UTC
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I too took some WUs to help out in the cleaning up and am annoyed everytime again by this behavior.
I typically do - and have done so already - abort tasks that do not have wingman-tasks done during the challenge.
A big problem is that my dual Xeon L5408 with i5000V-chipset is hampered with having only two RAM-channels as it seems: 750k to 1000k is my projected WU-runtime given the current done percentages... :/

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Message 27054 - Posted: 14 Oct 2010 | 1:27:42 UTC - in response to Message 27048.

It's all good - I would guess that since these are challenge WUs, these must get through the system. Otherwise someone is going to have to work out how to enter these back into the system.

The other part is you can turn those silver badges into gold ones.

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Message 27056 - Posted: 14 Oct 2010 | 2:19:32 UTC

Clean up Progress

Currently there are 3005 outstanding Challenge tasks, of which, 2001 are in scoring positions...affecting the outcome in 43 team positions and 96 individual positions.

As for the "clean up" suggestion, excellent idea except we are unable to that at this time. All aborted and timed out tasks enter the queue to be sent out again. We'll investigate if there's anything that can be done.

NOTE: As long as the buffer on the front page is at 50 or below, there's enough resources participating in the "clean up". Additional resources will not speed up the process. However, currently, the buffer is above 2000.

Thanks to everyone for helping out with the clean up.

History
13 Oct: 3005 WU's outstanding; 2001 in scoring positions
11 Oct: 3516 WU's outstanding; 2343 in scoring positions
09 Oct: 4334 WU's outstanding; 2877 in scoring positions
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Message 27057 - Posted: 14 Oct 2010 | 2:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 27056.

Currently there are 3005 outstanding Challenge tasks, of which, 2001 are in scoring positions...affecting the outcome in 43 team positions and 96 individual positions.

As for the "clean up" suggestion, excellent idea except we are unable to that at this time. All aborted and timed out tasks enter the queue to be sent out again. We'll investigate if there's anything that can be done.



Along the same lines, if you prioritize only those WU's that affect scoring positions, that too would speed up the cleanup process. This would seem to be a bit more complex than my first suggestion.
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Message 27081 - Posted: 15 Oct 2010 | 5:57:00 UTC
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Two of my work units failed this morning with an entry in the messages of boinc that some file could not be found. The LLR application was still running though. I also looked up the runtime of the other user who completed the WUs; the time it took on aa XEON 3.3 GHz was extreme high.

Could there be a problem in the program with restarting such WUs?
http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=132292822
http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=132292899
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Message 27082 - Posted: 15 Oct 2010 | 6:29:13 UTC

The runtime is not "extreme high", those are Pentium 4 based Xeons with HT, the runtime is in the epected range for those CPUs.

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Message 27087 - Posted: 15 Oct 2010 | 16:17:16 UTC

I figured that out looking at the other units; I still don't know why BOINC decided to abort the tasks. The LLR program was still running. If I have time I will look into the W7 logs, I might find some hints there.
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Message 27146 - Posted: 17 Oct 2010 | 19:20:44 UTC

I completed one for the clean-up but with a very disappointing runtime. I think the RAM on all my clients is to slow for this app.
How about a clean up progress?

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,773)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,945)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,855)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (84,876)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,311)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,440)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,270)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,616)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,288)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (41,655)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,807)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,014)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,405)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,192)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,306)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,738)GFN Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (86,217)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,143,756)
Message 27155 - Posted: 18 Oct 2010 | 1:58:31 UTC
Last modified: 23 Oct 2010 | 0:23:27 UTC

Clean up Progress

Currently there are 1825 outstanding Challenge tasks, of which, 1213 are in scoring positions...affecting the outcome in 34 team positions and 93 individual positions.

NOTE: As long as the buffer on the front page is at 50 or below, there's enough resources participating in the "clean up". Additional resources will not speed up the process. However, currently, the buffer is above 2000.

Thanks to everyone for helping out with the clean up.

History
22 Oct: 1825 WU's outstanding; 1213 in scoring positions
18 Oct: 2275 WU's outstanding; 1510 in scoring positions
16 Oct: 2564 WU's outstanding; 1697 in scoring positions
13 Oct: 3005 WU's outstanding; 2001 in scoring positions
11 Oct: 3516 WU's outstanding; 2343 in scoring positions
09 Oct: 4334 WU's outstanding; 2877 in scoring positions
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (78,297)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (158,791)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (144,400)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,226)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,905)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (177,569)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (172,304)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (38,345)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,401)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,541)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (584,650)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,307)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,096)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (31,680)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (311,660)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,039)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,597)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (194,685)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,429,487)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (211,837)
Message 27169 - Posted: 18 Oct 2010 | 10:55:54 UTC - in response to Message 27155.

Clean up Progress
History
13 Oct: 2564 WU's outstanding; 1697 in scoring positions
13 Oct: 3005 WU's outstanding; 2001 in scoring positions
11 Oct: 3516 WU's outstanding; 2343 in scoring positions
09 Oct: 4334 WU's outstanding; 2877 in scoring positions


Most recent History date probably needs to be edited. 18th?
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Message 27327 - Posted: 22 Oct 2010 | 21:27:36 UTC

Man this took long, but verstapp was wrong. Still 2 days to go for the other 5 WUs on this client... :/

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Message 27331 - Posted: 23 Oct 2010 | 0:27:54 UTC
Last modified: 30 Oct 2010 | 5:10:14 UTC

Clean up Progress

Since this will be an extended clean up phase, the Overall Challenge Rankings (Teams | Individuals) have been updated to reflect unofficial results. Challenge 7 will have ** next to it as long as results have not been finalized.

Currently there are 1063 outstanding Challenge tasks, of which, 685 are in scoring positions...affecting the outcome in 24 team positions and 75 individual positions.

NOTE: As long as the buffer on the front page is at 50 or below, there's enough resources participating in the "clean up". Additional resources will not speed up the process. However, currently, the buffer is above 500 (down from 1300 in last update).

Thanks to everyone for helping out with the clean up.

History
30 Oct: 1063 WU's outstanding; 685 in scoring positions
24 Oct: 1591 WU's outstanding; 1045 in scoring positions
22 Oct: 1825 WU's outstanding; 1213 in scoring positions
18 Oct: 2275 WU's outstanding; 1510 in scoring positions
16 Oct: 2564 WU's outstanding; 1697 in scoring positions
13 Oct: 3005 WU's outstanding; 2001 in scoring positions
11 Oct: 3516 WU's outstanding; 2343 in scoring positions
09 Oct: 4334 WU's outstanding; 2877 in scoring positions
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Message 27388 - Posted: 26 Oct 2010 | 0:27:24 UTC - in response to Message 27048.

Ok, so I ran a few WUs to help with the cleanup. One of those had no valid results, so technically it doesn't haven't any bearing on the Challenge.

Two more days until my wingman's result for that WU expires. I took a look at the wingman's computer.

It has nearly 300 PSP WU's, all pending. All downloaded at approximately the same time. Not a single one returned yet. (And how does one computer get so much work anyway? Even a maxed out out, LN2 cooled dual Xeon system overclocked until the chips are glowing couldn't possibly do more than about 12 WUs per day. 300 within a 14 day period simply isn't possible today.)

Looks like there's going to be a big jump in the number of available PSP tasks on Wednesday.
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Message 27391 - Posted: 26 Oct 2010 | 8:27:44 UTC
Last modified: 26 Oct 2010 | 8:29:25 UTC

Opps. This is not the idiot post you seek.
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