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Message 24105 - Posted 4 Jun 2010 1:31:04 UTC

    Last modified: 6 Jun 2010 23:16:46 UTC

    Welcome to PrimeGrid's Birthday/Summer Solstice Challenge

    PrimeGrid's Challenge series continues with the "Birthday/Summer Solstice Challenge". We are celebrating PrimeGrid's 5th birthday!!! Therefore, a 5 day Challenge is being offered on PrimeGrid's The Riesel Problem (Sieve) application. The celebration will culminate in the ancient observation of the Summer Solstice, 21 June!

    PrimeGrid has come a long ways in the past 5 years. For general background information, please visit PG History. For a list of accomplishments, please visit PG Milestones & Significant Primes.

    To participate in the Challenge, please select only the TRP (Sieve) project in your PrimeGrid preferences section. The Challenge will begin 16 June 2010 11:28 UTC and end 21 June 2010 11:28 UTC. Application builds are available for MacIntel, Linux 32 & 64 bit and Windows 32 & 64 bit. Note: 64 bit builds benefit from a 1.7X speed advantage over 32 bit...so 1.7X the credit. :)

    NOTE: In your PrimeGrid preferences section, set "Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work" to no to guarantee that no other work will be sent.

    Recommendation: The TRP (Sieve) application requires a one time download of a 35MB sieve file. Please consider running a few TRP (Sieve) WU's before the Challenge begins so your client will already have the sieve file. This way, bandwidth can be used to deliver WU's instead of the sieve file. :) Thank you!

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    Scoring Information

    Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 16 June 2010 11:28 UTC and received BEFORE 21 June 2010 11:28 UTC will be considered for credit. Since this is a fixed credit project, we'll be using cobblestones for scoring.

    About the Riesel Problem

    Hans Ivar Riesel (born 1929 in Stockholm) is a Swedish mathematician. In 1956, he showed that there are an infinite number of positive odd integer k's such that k*2^n-1 is composite (not prime) for every integer n>=1. These numbers are now called Riesel numbers. He further showed that k=509203 was such one.

    It is conjectured that 509203 is the smallest Riesel number. The Riesel problem consists in determining that 509203 is the smallest Riesel number. To show that it is the smallest, a prime of the form k*2^n-1 must be found for each of the positive integer k's less than 509203. As of July 2008, there remains 64 k's for which no primes have been found. They are as follows:

    2293, 9221, 23669, 31859, 38473, 40597, 46663, 65531, 67117, 74699, 81041, 93839, 97139, 107347, 121889, 123547, 129007, 141941, 143047, 146561, 161669, 162941, 191249, 192971, 206039, 206231, 215443, 226153, 234343, 245561, 250027, 252191, 273809, 304207, 315929, 319511, 324011, 325123, 327671, 336839, 342847, 344759, 353159, 362609, 363343, 364903, 365159, 368411, 371893, 384539, 386801, 397027, 398023, 402539, 409753, 415267, 428639, 444637, 470173, 474491, 477583, 485557, 494743, 502573

    For a more detailed history and status of the Riesel problem, please visit Wilfrid Keller's The Riesel Problem: Definition and Status.

    Additional Information


    The Riesel problem is to k*2^n-1 as the Sierpinski problem is to k*2^n+1. There is no equivalent to the 'prime' Sierpinski problem since k=509203, the conjectured smallest Riesel number, is prime.

    32 bit OS with 64 bit CPU

    This is for those who are "driving with the hand brake active" (running a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine) ;) Wubi is a very nice tool that installs Ubuntu as a dual boot to your 64 bit machine. It's as simple as adding a program to Windows. You can even uninstall it like you would any other program. :)

    Wubi - Ubuntu Installer

    After getting 64 bit OS running on your machine, here's a link to ALL BOINC clients (including Linux x64): http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php If you are new to Linux and need help getting set up, let us know.

    It really is simple. :)

    Ubuntu has a power save feature that throttles the CPU frequency down to save power. It does not treat BOINC as an active program so will throttle down thus causing under-performance. For those downloading the latest Ubuntu 9.10 (http://www.ubuntu.com/), please follow these directions to make sure the frequency is not throttled down while BOINC is running:

    1. In Ubuntu, right click the top menu bar
    2. Select add to panel
    3. Select "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"
    4. Click add

    This will add a processor icon to the top menu. Click on the icon and set to "Performance". This also allows you to see the CPU frequency.
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    Message 24196 - Posted 7 Jun 2010 16:09:49 UTC

      Hej @ all

      I am on holiday, but my CPUs have to work, because they do not work enough last month ;)
      So count me in this challenge (if my tested scripting works fine ...)

      Am I right: new sieve-file is 'TRP_20100604.sieveinput' ??
      if not, my CPUs will ask the server on June 16 ...


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      Message 24198 - Posted 7 Jun 2010 17:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 24196.

        Am I right: new sieve-file is 'TRP_20100604.sieveinput' ??

        This is the current file which will be used for the Challenge.

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        Message 24214 - Posted 8 Jun 2010 18:40:46 UTC

          Last modified: 8 Jun 2010 18:41:29 UTC

          I prepared myself for the challenge and swaped the lone Xeon E5405 of this client for two Xeon L5408. This is now my fastest client and the power only rose from 135 W to 155 W under full load. Let the challenge begin!

          Core 7: +58.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 6: +65.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 5: +49.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 4: +57.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 3: +51.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 2: +55.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 1: +57.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Core 0: +63.0°C (high = +74.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
          Ch. 0 DIMM 0: +61.0°C (low = +74.5°C, high = +124.0°C)
          Ch. 1 DIMM 0: +57.0°C (low = +74.5°C, high = +124.0°C)

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          Message 24219 - Posted 9 Jun 2010 2:47:52 UTC

            How to Join the Challenge

            To participate in the Challenge, please select only the TRP (Sieve) project in your PrimeGrid preferences section. Also, set "Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work" to no to guarantee that no other work will be sent. The challenge will begin 16 June 2010 11:28 UTC and end 21 June 2010 11:28 UTC.

            Application builds are available for the following:


            • Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
            • Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU
            • Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
            • Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU
            • Mac OS 10.4 or later running on Intel
            • Mac OS 10.5+ running on an Intel 64-bit CPU


            Note: 64 bit builds benefit from a 1.7X speed advantage over 32 bit...so 1.7X the credit. :)

            Recommendation: The TRP (Sieve) application requires a one time download of a 35MB sieve file. Please consider running a few TRP (Sieve) WU's before the Challenge begins so your client will already have the sieve file. This way, bandwidth can be used to deliver WU's instead of the sieve file. :) Thank you!

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            NOTE: The countdown clock on the front page uses the host computer time. Therefore, if your computer time is off, so will the countdown clock. For precise timing, use the UTC Time in the data section to the left of the countdown clock.

            Scoring Information

            Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 16 June 2010 11:28 UTC and received BEFORE 21 June 2010 11:28 UTC will be considered for credit. Since this is a fixed credit project, we'll be using cobblestones for scoring.

            Stats will be available on the front page next to the clock within 30 minutes after the start.

            What to expect at Challenge start

            The server always gets hit hard at the beginning of the Challenge. However, we will be using the same procedure that we used last year for all the Challenges which proved very successful. A few hours before the start (16 June 2010 11:28 UTC) "max cache" will be dropped to 16 tasks per core. Additionally, "max to send" will be dropped to 8 tasks per core. Anyone attempting to request more will be met with "max cache" messages.

            We'll raise the buffer to at least 50K. At the start of the Challenge, these settings will be adjusted as necessary. Afterwards, as conditions allow, we'll raise "max cache". We'll continue to increase "max cache" when the server can handle it until a full 5 days max cache is possible.

            This method allows the greatest opportunity for the most clients to get work. Even if it's just 1 task for the first 5 minutes, at least the client is crunching. Past Challenges have shown that clients have an excellent chance to reach "max cache" before their first task is complete. We expect the same this time.

            Strategies for starting the Challenge

            Depending on a variety of factors, different strategies work for different users. Here are just a few to consider:


            • large farm, user can be present at start
              -Set Computer is connected to the Internet about every to 0 days
              -Set Maintain enough work for an additional to 0 days
              -Change PrimeGrid preferences to a fast WU project such as PPS (LLR)
              -At Challenge start, update PrimeGrid preferences and only select TRP (Sieve) project
              -At worse, you'll only be 1 PPS (LLR) WU late on each core starting the Challenge.
              -After all machines have work, increase Maintain enough work for an additional
            • large farm, user NOT able to be present at start
              -Same settings as above.
              -At worse, you'll only be 1 WU late on each core starting the Challenge.
            • a few computers, user can be present at start
              -Change PrimeGrid preferences and only select TRP (Sieve) project
              -Set computers to "No New Tasks" for PrimeGrid
              -At Challenge Start, update computers to "Allow New Tasks"
            • a few computers, user NOT able to be present at start
              -Set Computer is connected to the Internet about every to 0 days
              -Set Maintain enough work for an additional to 0 days
              -Change PrimeGrid preferences and only select TRP (Sieve) project
              -At worse, you'll only be 1 WU late on each core starting the Challenge.


            NOTE: This presumes you have all other BOINC projects suspended.

            Best of Luck to everyone!
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            Message 24272 - Posted 12 Jun 2010 7:27:39 UTC - in response to Message 24219.

              Last modified: 12 Jun 2010 7:39:47 UTC

              Recommendation: The TRP (Sieve) application requires a one time download of a 35MB sieve file. Please consider running a few TRP (Sieve) WU's before the Challenge begins so your client will already have the sieve file. This way, bandwidth can be used to deliver WU's instead of the sieve file. :) Thank you!

              You may end up with 2 sieve file downloads because currently there are some resends in the queue.

              I switched my main cruncher to TRP sieve yesterday evening and it downloaded 2 sieve files. First it downloaded the "short" new one and a few minutes ago the older version:

              user@host:~/BOINC/projects/www.primegrid.com$ ls -lh TRP_2010*
              -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 45M 2010-06-12 09:09 TRP_20100505.sieveinput
              -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 35M 2010-06-11 19:13 TRP_20100604.sieveinput
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              Message 24299 - Posted 14 Jun 2010 3:13:49 UTC

                Special Attention

                This is a reminder to connect to the TRP (Sieve) project early and do at least 1 task so you can have the latest sieve file. However, as mentioned in the previous post, resends using the previous sieve file are still there. We hope to have most of these completed before the start of the Challenge.

                Speaking of start, please make a special note of the start time: 16 Jun 11:28 UTC. This is different from the normal start time of 18:00 UTC. This allows the Challenge to finish on the Summer Solstice.

                Best of Luck to everyone!
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                Message 24305 - Posted 14 Jun 2010 17:11:41 UTC - in response to Message 24299.

                  Special Attention

                  This is a reminder to connect to the TRP (Sieve) project early and do at least 1 task so you can have the latest sieve file. However, as mentioned in the previous post, resends using the previous sieve file are still there. We hope to have most of these completed before the start of the Challenge.

                  Speaking of start, please make a special note of the start time: 16 Jun 11:28 UTC. This is different from the normal start time of 18:00 UTC. This allows the Challenge to finish on the Summer Solstice.

                  Best of Luck to everyone!


                  18:00 UTC is much better, cannot start earlier ^^
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                  Message 24318 - Posted 14 Jun 2010 22:22:29 UTC

                    Well the time is perfect for me as I will be home about 15 minutes before the start time.

                    I just wonder why the time shown in the stats data is 11 - 12 minutes faster than real time. Does this mean I should start ten minutes earlier, or, can you match up to a handy atomic clock somewhere?
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                    Message 24320 - Posted 14 Jun 2010 23:27:20 UTC

                      I guess I'll be setting the old alarm clock to 04:15Quebec (California time) to turn on work download: sigh. Yup, 18:00Zulu is definitely better, solstice or not.
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                      Message 24323 - Posted 15 Jun 2010 6:22:25 UTC - in response to Message 24318.

                        I just wonder why the time shown in the stats data is 11 - 12 minutes faster than real time. Does this mean I should start ten minutes earlier, or, can you match up to a handy atomic clock somewhere?

                        I just synced the time on server, thanks!
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                        Message 24337 - Posted 15 Jun 2010 20:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 24323.

                          I hope there will be a lot more work available when the challenge starts. I have a lot of cores waiting for work. Even today in my prep-work to download the sieve-files most of my computers get the "No work available for the application.."

                          Good luck everyone !

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                          Message 24343 - Posted 15 Jun 2010 22:00:35 UTC - in response to Message 24337.

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                            Even today in my prep-work to download the sieve-files most of my computers get the "No work available for the application.."

                            Good luck everyone !


                            I think there is no need to download on every host, just download once and copy it over to all your hosts, that is what i have done.

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                            Message 24344 - Posted 15 Jun 2010 22:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 24337.

                              I hope there will be a lot more work available when the challenge starts. I have a lot of cores waiting for work. Even today in my prep-work to download the sieve-files most of my computers get the "No work available for the application.."

                              Good luck everyone !


                              Make sure you leave some for the rest of us!
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                              Message 24346 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 2:28:21 UTC

                                Last modified: 16 Jun 2010 4:33:06 UTC

                                9 hours until the start of the Birthday/Summer Solstice Challenge

                                It's time to make those final adjustments for the start of the Challenge. If everyone manages to download the sieve file in advance, we should have a pretty smooth start. Therefore, please spread the word about downloading the file before the start.

                                Once again review the "Welcome" post as well as the "How to Join" post so you can be informed and make any last minute adjustments that are necessary.

                                A few hours before the Challenge, we begin to monitor the Meebo chat room at the bottom of the forum page. If at any time PrimeGrid becomes unresponsive, you can still access the Meebo chat room externally here: http://www.meebo.com/room/primegrid/

                                Before the start, the Subproject stats on the Server Status page will be disabled as will the 24 hour stats on the bottom of the front page. Also, the Top Primes Finder page will be disabled. This is all done to free up as much resources to allow the server to send and receive work.

                                What to expect at Challenge start

                                Recommendation: The TRP (Sieve) application requires a one time download of a 35MB sieve file. Please consider running a few TRP (Sieve) WU's before the Challenge begins so your client will already have the sieve file. This way, bandwidth can be used to deliver WU's instead of the sieve file. :) Thank you!

                                The server always gets hit hard at the beginning of the Challenge. However, we will be using the same procedure that we used last year for all the Challenges which proved very successful. A few hours before the start (16 June 2010 11:28 UTC) "max cache" will be dropped to 16 tasks per core. Additionally, "max to send" will be dropped to 8 tasks per core. Anyone attempting to request more will be met with "max cache" messages.

                                We'll raise the buffer to at least 50K. At the start of the Challenge, these settings will be adjusted as necessary. Afterwards, as conditions allow, we'll raise "max cache". We'll continue to increase "max cache" when the server can handle it until a full 5 days max cache is possible.

                                This method allows the greatest opportunity for the most clients to get work. Even if it's just 1 task for the first 5 minutes, at least the client is crunching. Past Challenges have shown that clients have an excellent chance to reach "max cache" before their first task is complete. We expect the same this time.

                                Strategies for starting the Challenge

                                Depending on a variety of factors, different strategies work for different users. Here are just a few to consider:


                                • large farm, user can be present at start
                                  -Set Computer is connected to the Internet about every to 0 days
                                  -Set Maintain enough work for an additional to 0 days
                                  -Change PrimeGrid preferences to a fast WU project such as PPS (LLR)
                                  -At Challenge start, update PrimeGrid preferences and only select TRP (Sieve) project
                                  -At worse, you'll only be 1 PPS (LLR) WU late on each core starting the Challenge.
                                  -After all machines have work, increase Maintain enough work for an additional
                                • large farm, user NOT able to be present at start
                                  -Same settings as above.
                                  -At worse, you'll only be 1 WU late on each core starting the Challenge.
                                • a few computers, user can be present at start
                                  -Change PrimeGrid preferences and only select TRP (Sieve) project
                                  -Set computers to "No New Tasks" for PrimeGrid
                                  -At Challenge Start, update computers to "Allow New Tasks"
                                • a few computers, user NOT able to be present at start
                                  -Set Computer is connected to the Internet about every to 0 days
                                  -Set Maintain enough work for an additional to 0 days
                                  -Change PrimeGrid preferences and only select TRP (Sieve) project
                                  -At worse, you'll only be 1 WU late on each core starting the Challenge.


                                NOTE: This presumes you have all other BOINC projects suspended.

                                Best of Luck to everyone!
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                                Message 24354 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 8:39:24 UTC

                                  Lol, you math guys even make fun complicated!

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                                  Message 24355 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 12:02:52 UTC - in response to Message 24346.

                                    Got some weirdness here:

                                    The first WUs I got had a deadline of the 23rd (a duration of 7 days).

                                    Then I got some WUs that had a deadline of the 19th -- these had a duration of 3 days plus an hour and change, not an even multiple of days. Because of the shorter deadline, these went into high-priority mode, pre-empting the others. Blech.

                                    Thinking those might have been non-challenge resends, I aborted those.

                                    Then I got some more with the 23rd.

                                    Then I got some more with the 19th again, and they went into high priority mode.

                                    What's up with the deadlines?
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                                    Message 24357 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 13:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 24355.

                                      Exact same situation here. I tossed a few with deadlines of the 19th, only to get some more of the same as well as some June 23rds mixed in. Funky.

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                                      Message 24358 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 13:57:58 UTC

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                                        My guess is that the extra WUs PrimeGrid provided for the challenge got shorter deadlines than the WUs that were already in the queue.

                                        On my quad WUs with numbers less than 300000 (between 289000 and 294000) have the "normal" 7 day deadline and WU with numbers higher 300000 (around 303000) have the "shorter" 3.5 day(?) deadline.
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                                        Message 24360 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 14:56:08 UTC

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                                          I'm waiting for the first stats update...

                                            16 Jun 2010 11:30:03 UTC 16 Jun 2010 14:31:35 UTC Completed and validated 10,845.77 10,754.70 94.97 280.00
                                            16 Jun 2010 11:30:02 UTC 16 Jun 2010 14:31:49 UTC Completed and validated 10,872.60 10,783.48 95.23 280.00
                                            16 Jun 2010 11:30:02 UTC 16 Jun 2010 14:31:00 UTC Completed and validated 10,823.21 10,741.30 94.85 280.00
                                            16 Jun 2010 11:30:04 UTC 16 Jun 2010 14:31:49 UTC Completed and validated 10,838.79 10,771.60 95.12 280.00


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                                          Message 24361 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 14:56:21 UTC

                                            My first WU was finished and uploaded 14:11:25 UTC

                                            No stats update?


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                                            Message 24365 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 21:22:51 UTC

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                                              What a perfect start! I got up at 4:25AM PDT, changed over all my machines to Primegrid, ready to defeat all comers!!

                                              Then, when I woke of at 11:00AM and checked my stats, I had nothing, nada, zilch. I figured there was no way Rytis and the guys could not update the stats for 7 hours. So I came to the Primegrid site and checked everything out. All my machines were producing work, why wasn't I given credit. I looked and looked until after 20 minutes, I checked on which program I was running.

                                              Alas, I am an Idiot, with a capital "I". I was running PPS LLR not TRP Sieve.

                                              Problem corrected. Did you know it is really hard to kick oneself in the butt??
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                                              Message 24367 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 22:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 24365.

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                                                (...)
                                                I was running PPS LLR not TRP Sieve.
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                                                I too had ppsLLR until right after the challenge-start and than a hard time to change all my clients to another host-venue - but finally i got it right.

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                                                Message 24368 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 22:27:56 UTC

                                                  I'm having a strange problem with my dual core processor since this challenge started. One core is crunching fine but the other is getting computation errors like no other...I've tried shutting down the computer, reseting the project, allowing more memory to be used and putting processor limits to see if I could get both cores to work but still no joy.

                                                  Anyone here know of anything else I can try?
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                                                  Message 24369 - Posted 16 Jun 2010 22:50:22 UTC - in response to Message 24368.

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                                                    Try - not using the boinc screen saver

                                                    http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Unrecoverable_error_for_result_%27%28result%29%27_%28Incorrect_function._%280x1%29_-_exit_code_1_%280x1%29%29

                                                    for now, then try to upgrade the graphics drivers
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                                                    Message 24372 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 3:53:18 UTC - in response to Message 24369.

                                                      Still unable to use my second core, thanks for the suggestion though...Just makes me mad since it was doing great right up until the challenge then this happens...:(

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                                                      Message 24376 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 10:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 24355.

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                                                        I'm loosing a lot of CPU time because of BOINC manager jumping from 23/06 deadline WUs to 20/06 deadline WUs :(

                                                        Am I the only one?
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                                                        Message 24377 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 11:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 24376.

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                                                          I'm having the same problem (see my post above.)

                                                          I haven't seen any response from the project about why they're mixing and matching deadline durations, but it's screwing up the scheduling and I sure wish they would stop.

                                                          I may need to start micro-managing the tasks and abort every unstarted short duration WU with a short deadline -- that will be the only way to get the partially-completed long duration WUs to finish before the challenge ends.

                                                          In fact, I think I will start doing that right now.

                                                          EDIT:

                                                          Well, that didn't seem to work as the short duration tasks seem to be the only ones being sent out right now. I guess I'll wait a bit for a response from the admins, but I'll eventually abort the unstarted long duration WUs. I guess I'll have to manually suspend the short duration WUs in order to get the already started long duration WUs to finish before the end of the challenge.. That means the cores will run dry if I'm not there to manually start them up again. Oh joy -- let the cores run dry, or waste the crunching already done. Lovely.

                                                          BTW, this isn't the admins' fault -- there's no reason the BOINC client should be running these things high priority. It's got plenty of time.
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                                                          Message 24381 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 16:05:13 UTC - in response to Message 24377.

                                                            On many versions of BOINC, if you suspend and then almost immediately resume a WU, it won't resume right away. If the other work is within some short time of completion (an hour, I think), it will get done before BOINC decides to switch back to the work you suspended.

                                                            That trick worked for me on one machine yesterday, anyway.
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                                                            Message 24382 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 16:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 24377.

                                                              I haven't seen any response from the project about why they're mixing and matching deadline durations, but it's screwing up the scheduling and I sure wish they would stop.

                                                              This was an error on our part. We apologize. Since this is a sieve Challenge, there was actually no reason to shorten the deadline from 7 days to 3.5 days.

                                                              Although it's no consolation now, the next batch of WU's will have a 7 day deadline. This will at least force all earlier deadline work to be completed first.
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                                                              Message 24385 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 18:25:28 UTC

                                                                Hi, I am participating in the Summer Solstice Challenge but do not see my user in the participants list. I have the proper project selected and have daily results occurring.

                                                                Any idea what i should do or is there a way to audit what is happening on either side of this situation?


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                                                                Message 24386 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 18:34:47 UTC - in response to Message 24385.

                                                                  Hi, I am participating in the Summer Solstice Challenge but do not see my user in the participants list. I have the proper project selected and have daily results occurring.

                                                                  Any idea what i should do or is there a way to audit what is happening on either side of this situation?




                                                                  I did a quick check and what I can see the validated wu's are downloaded before the challenge started.

                                                                  "Scoring Information

                                                                  Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 16 June 2010 11:28 UTC and received BEFORE 21 June 2010 11:28 UTC will be considered for credit. Since this is a fixed credit project, we'll be using cobblestones for scoring."

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                                                                  Message 24387 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 18:44:42 UTC - in response to Message 24386.

                                                                    Ok, thanks.
                                                                    must be a delay between getting WU results and work completed.

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                                                                    Message 24388 - Posted 17 Jun 2010 19:28:06 UTC

                                                                      Ok, i had a bunch of WUs assigned before challange.
                                                                      Corrected the problem. Problem is resolved.
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                                                                      Message 24395 - Posted 18 Jun 2010 11:56:09 UTC

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                                                                        Challenge Update

                                                                        We are currently sieving at an unheard of rate of approximately 617T per day and it's increasing!!! The depth is currently approaching 5P. It is possible that we could reach 7P by the end of the Challenge!!! Prime search history is being made with this raw sieving power. Thanks!

                                                                        Additionally, we'll most definitely break the single day credit record of 15.9M cobblestones at PrimeGrid. Yesterday, over 15M was awarded but the rate has been increasing each day. We expect to see a record today.

                                                                        A HUGE thanks goes out to each and every one of you. These are your records...your accomplishments. Congratulations!!! Now on with the Challenge. :) Best of Luck!

                                                                        EDIT: The Challenge started around 2.6P. To see if we reach 7P, you can follow progress here: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) - Range statistics
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                                                                        Message 24398 - Posted 18 Jun 2010 18:44:16 UTC

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                                                                          New Single Day Credit Record!!!

                                                                          As expected, a new single day credit record of 18M cobblestones was achieved today surpassing the previous record of 15.9M set during the Winter Solstice Challenge. Kind of a nice symmetry there. :) Additionally, a max of 628T/day was reached...and we're not even half way through the Challenge!

                                                                          Congratulations and thank you for participating!!!
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                                                                          Message 24400 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 4:14:35 UTC - in response to Message 24395.

                                                                            Challenge Update

                                                                            We are currently sieving at an unheard of rate of approximately 617T per day and it's increasing!!! The depth is currently approaching 5P. It is possible that we could reach 7P by the end of the Challenge!!! Prime search history is being made with this raw sieving power. Thanks!

                                                                            EDIT: The Challenge started around 2.6P. To see if we reach 7P, you can follow progress here: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) - Range statistics


                                                                            Dumb question or not, but I haven't seen this reference before. 2.6P to 7P range. What does this refer to?

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                                                                            Message 24401 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 4:41:04 UTC - in response to Message 24400.

                                                                              Hmmm .... getting the following:

                                                                              19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                              19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) needs 14.86MB more disk space. You currently have 461.98 MB available and it needs 476.84 MB.
                                                                              19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your preferences on the web site.

                                                                              PG is already using 120MB, isn't an extra 476.84MB a bit excessive, just to get another WU?

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                                                                              Message 24402 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 4:47:32 UTC - in response to Message 24401.

                                                                                Hmmm .... getting the following:

                                                                                19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) needs 14.86MB more disk space. You currently have 461.98 MB available and it needs 476.84 MB.
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                                                                                PG is already using 120MB, isn't an extra 476.84MB a bit excessive, just to get another WU?


                                                                                You only need 14.86MB more disk space.
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                                                                                Message 24403 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 5:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 24400.

                                                                                  Dumb question or not, but I haven't seen this reference before. 2.6P to 7P range. What does this refer to?


                                                                                  These are the range of the factors that the sieve is currently searching for... 2.6P = 2.6 quadrillion (2,600,000,000,000,000). 1P = 1,000T, so when John says we searched 628T in one day, that is the same as 0.6P/day. This is incredibly fast, as evidenced by the fact that all sorts of records are being broken. To put it in perspective, it took 3 months or so to sieve up to 2.6P (TRP Sieve just started here in March), and now we are sieving more than that in just a few days. Of course this speed will go back down to normal levels after the challenge, but it's a very nice boost to the effort.

                                                                                  P = quadrillion = 1,000T
                                                                                  T = trillion = 1,000G
                                                                                  G = billion = 1,000M
                                                                                  M = million
                                                                                  (the letters are based on SI prefixes, Mega, Giga, Tera, and Peta)

                                                                                  I know I've seen better explanations/FAQ's on sieving and terminology somewhere, but I can't seem to find them at the moment. Searching around on PrimeGrid, Mersenneforum, and the Seventeen Or Bust forums would probably turn up something if you are interested.

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                                                                                  Message 24404 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 7:19:31 UTC - in response to Message 24403.

                                                                                    Thanks - I'm used to the SI prefixes but didn't match them to he usage here.

                                                                                    :)

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                                                                                    Message 24405 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 12:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 24402.

                                                                                      Hmmm .... getting the following:

                                                                                      19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                      19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) needs 14.86MB more disk space. You currently have 461.98 MB available and it needs 476.84 MB.
                                                                                      19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your preferences on the web site.

                                                                                      PG is already using 120MB, isn't an extra 476.84MB a bit excessive, just to get another WU?


                                                                                      You only need 14.86MB more disk space.


                                                                                      I know I only need another 14.86MB, but I already have 461.98MB of free disk space and thats a lot more than whats actually needed to run a WU. :)

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                                                                                      Message 24406 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 13:10:47 UTC - in response to Message 24405.

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                                                                                        Hmmm .... getting the following:

                                                                                        19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                        19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) needs 14.86MB more disk space. You currently have 461.98 MB available and it needs 476.84 MB.
                                                                                        19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your preferences on the web site.

                                                                                        PG is already using 120MB, isn't an extra 476.84MB a bit excessive, just to get another WU?


                                                                                        You only need 14.86MB more disk space.


                                                                                        I know I only need another 14.86MB, but I already have 461.98MB of free disk space and thats a lot more than whats actually needed to run a WU. :)

                                                                                        Your BOINC preferences are probably configured to limit your disk usage. Look at you Preference settings related to disk and memory usage. Both on the project (Under Your account, "When and how BOINC uses your computer") as well as locally. (Locally it's under Advanced->Preferences->disk and memory usage.) It's either the "Leave at least x Gig free" or "Use at most x% of total disk space."

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                                                                                        Message 24407 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 13:21:33 UTC - in response to Message 24405.

                                                                                          Hmmm .... getting the following:

                                                                                          19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                          19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) needs 14.86MB more disk space. You currently have 461.98 MB available and it needs 476.84 MB.
                                                                                          19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your preferences on the web site.

                                                                                          PG is already using 120MB, isn't an extra 476.84MB a bit excessive, just to get another WU?


                                                                                          You only need 14.86MB more disk space.


                                                                                          I know I only need another 14.86MB, but I already have 461.98MB of free disk space and thats a lot more than whats actually needed to run a WU. :)


                                                                                          It looks like your Hard Disk is a little bit too full. BOINC enforces limits on its disk usage to prevent itself from using up all your free disk space, thereby possibly crashing your computer. These limits are set on your computing preferences page
                                                                                          http://www.primegrid.com/prefs.php?subset=global.

                                                                                          Either free up a little more disk space, or lower the limits slightly.

                                                                                          Hope this helps.


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                                                                                            maybe someone should kick the validator!

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                                                                                            Message 24409 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 13:22:23 UTC - in response to Message 24406.

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                                                                                              Hmmm .... getting the following:

                                                                                              19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                              19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: The Riesel Problem (Sieve) needs 14.86MB more disk space. You currently have 461.98 MB available and it needs 476.84 MB.
                                                                                              19/06/2010 1:46:16 PM|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your preferences on the web site.

                                                                                              PG is already using 120MB, isn't an extra 476.84MB a bit excessive, just to get another WU?


                                                                                              You only need 14.86MB more disk space.


                                                                                              I know I only need another 14.86MB, but I already have 461.98MB of free disk space and thats a lot more than whats actually needed to run a WU. :)

                                                                                              Your BOINC preferences are probably configured to limit your disk usage. Look at you Preference settings related to disk and memory usage. Both on the project (Under Your account, "When and how BOINC uses your computer") as well as locally. (Locally it's under Advanced->Preferences->disk and memory usage.) It's either the "Leave at least x Gig free" or "Use at most x% of total disk space."


                                                                                              Nope - Small drive (2GB) - that all thats left. :(

                                                                                              EDIT: I am not needing advice, just wondering why so much free space is required by PG? (Seti, Enigma, MW, Simap and Rosetta also run on the same cruncher at times, and they dont ask for more space).

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                                                                                              Message 24412 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 14:56:15 UTC - in response to Message 24272.

                                                                                                Recommendation: The TRP (Sieve) application requires a one time download of a 35MB sieve file.
                                                                                                You may end up with 2 sieve file downloads because currently there are some resends in the queue.

                                                                                                user@host:~/BOINC/projects/www.primegrid.com$ ls -lh TRP_2010*
                                                                                                -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 45M 2010-06-12 09:09 TRP_20100505.sieveinput
                                                                                                -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 35M 2010-06-11 19:13 TRP_20100604.sieveinput

                                                                                                I am not needing advice, just wondering why so much free space is required by PG? (Seti, Enigma, MW, Simap and Rosetta also run on the same cruncher at times, and they dont ask for more space).


                                                                                                This might be the reason.

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                                                                                                Message 24413 - Posted 19 Jun 2010 16:15:17 UTC - in response to Message 24412.

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                                                                                                  Recommendation: The TRP (Sieve) application requires a one time download of a 35MB sieve file.
                                                                                                  You may end up with 2 sieve file downloads because currently there are some resends in the queue.

                                                                                                  user@host:~/BOINC/projects/www.primegrid.com$ ls -lh TRP_2010*
                                                                                                  -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 45M 2010-06-12 09:09 TRP_20100505.sieveinput
                                                                                                  -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 35M 2010-06-11 19:13 TRP_20100604.sieveinput

                                                                                                  I am not needing advice, just wondering why so much free space is required by PG? (Seti, Enigma, MW, Simap and Rosetta also run on the same cruncher at times, and they dont ask for more space).


                                                                                                  This might be the reason.

                                                                                                  Yes. If you take into consideration that a copy of the sieve input file is created in every slot directory you quickly end up with a few hundred MB of hard drive space occupied like in this case (BOINC decided to put a set of WUs on hold and started a new one):

                                                                                                  user@host:~/BOINC$ du -h slots/ | tail -n 1
                                                                                                  280M slots/

                                                                                                  Now imagine BOINC in panic mode on a i980X crunching PPS sieve tasks with their 233M sieve files...
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                                                                                                  Message 24415 - Posted 20 Jun 2010 0:15:59 UTC - in response to Message 24413.

                                                                                                    This might be the reason.


                                                                                                    Yes. If you take into consideration that a copy of the sieve input file is created in every slot directory you quickly end up with a few hundred MB of hard drive space occupied like in this case (BOINC decided to put a set of WUs on hold and started a new one):

                                                                                                    user@host:~/BOINC$ du -h slots/ | tail -n 1
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                                                                                                    Now imagine BOINC in panic mode on a i980X crunching PPS sieve tasks with their 233M sieve files...


                                                                                                    Thank You. That does make sense.
                                                                                                    But obviously it is a 'blanket' requirement is applied equally to all requests for work from all hosts big or small, and cannot determine if it is not really needed (as in my situation - only 2 cores, both of which were already crunching the only 2 WUs I had at the time)

                                                                                                    Also interesting was that when I freed space so I had only a few MB more than the requirement, I was able to DL 6 WUs one at a time to fill my cache.

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                                                                                                    Message 24421 - Posted 20 Jun 2010 13:41:23 UTC

                                                                                                      Challenge Update

                                                                                                      AMAZING!!!! Just a few minutes ago, we reached a sieving rate for TRP sieve of 1.01P/day and increasing!!! The depth is currently approaching 5.5P.

                                                                                                      Again, a HUGE thanks goes out to everyone. These are your records...your accomplishments. Congratulations!!!

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                                                                                                      Message 24423 - Posted 20 Jun 2010 14:30:39 UTC - in response to Message 24409.

                                                                                                        If you can, you might consider adding another HD. 2g is 1995 standards. I use at the smallest, a 40GB HD for any system with 2.xx GHz cpu or greater. My main system has a 750GB HD on a Quad CPU system.

                                                                                                        When installing an OS, consider using storage that will be 2x larger than the total data installed unless you dont plan to install more software.

                                                                                                        For test, i install OS on HDs just big enough to run but that would be for only test purposes.

                                                                                                        Probably, you are not living close enough for me to give you a 10Gb HD of which i have many just sitting around.

                                                                                                        You might try uninstalling applications that are not needed at the moment to relieve some of the storage space.

                                                                                                        having done this for 30 years and with much trial and error, the best rule of thumb on software installations is 2x the size of data :).

                                                                                                        Keep up the number crunching anyways if you can.
                                                                                                        We are putting our foot down on Team Norway which i suspect the main contributor is using a large file server system or a mock Cray system.
                                                                                                        Only way anyone would crunch over 6 mil in this short time.
                                                                                                        But Team work with prevail! we caught up and passed them in one day!

                                                                                                        Good Job all!!! :D
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                                                                                                        Message 24424 - Posted 20 Jun 2010 15:06:47 UTC - in response to Message 24423.

                                                                                                          If you can, you might consider adding another HD.


                                                                                                          Umm .... Its a VMWare virtual disk, I could expand it if necessary.

                                                                                                          A lot of my crunchers are VMs, just an OS and Boinc, they usually dont need much disk space. :)

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                                                                                                          Message 24425 - Posted 20 Jun 2010 15:32:02 UTC

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                                                                                                            Where are all the factors found gone in stats? Reduced from 700k to 300k now!

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                                                                                                            Message 24426 - Posted 20 Jun 2010 16:26:27 UTC - in response to Message 24423.

                                                                                                              But Team work with prevail!


                                                                                                              You make it seem like there is no team work in what Team Norway is doing in the challenge... We've mobilized a lot of our crunchers for this challenge. That one participant outproduces the rest, doesn't make it any less of a team effort! :)

                                                                                                              It's been a fun challenge for us so far and I'd like to thank you for letting us have the first place for half the challenge. I'd only wish it was the second half of the challenge! ;D

                                                                                                              Keep on crunching!

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                                                                                                              Message 24430 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 2:57:04 UTC - in response to Message 24426.

                                                                                                                But Team work with prevail!


                                                                                                                You make it seem like there is no team work in what Team Norway is doing in the challenge... We've mobilized a lot of our crunchers for this challenge. That one participant outproduces the rest, doesn't make it any less of a team effort! :)

                                                                                                                It's been a fun challenge for us so far and I'd like to thank you for letting us have the first place for half the challenge. I'd only wish it was the second half of the challenge! ;D

                                                                                                                Keep on crunching!

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                                                                                                                Team Norway have done a great job, competing at the top of the leader board - gives the other modest sized teams something to watch and work on.

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                                                                                                                Message 24432 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 3:23:44 UTC

                                                                                                                  Preparing for the Final!

                                                                                                                  With about 8 hours remaining, now would be a good time to start preparing for the end of the Challenge. Please remember to upload early and often. The server is going to get hit hard as the Challenge draws to an end. We have started lowering "max cache" to help with this.

                                                                                                                  Only work units issued AFTER 16 JUNE 2010 11:28 UTC and received BEFORE 21 JUNE 2010 11:28 UTC will be considered for credit.

                                                                                                                  For those "moving on" at the conclusion of the Challenge, we ask that you abort your WU's after the end. This helps out greatly with loose WU's lying around waiting to expire. However, if you have the resources, please consider completing the work in your cache before "moving on".

                                                                                                                  Since this is a sieve Challenge, there is not need for a "clean up" period. Therefore, the results will be final shortly after the conclusion (when the validator has processed all the Challenge WU's).

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                                                                                                                    I got some 19 WUs pending comletion in the next hour before the deadline.
                                                                                                                    I hope i stay put on 60th place.
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                                                                                                                        Congratulation to all participants and the administration for this nice challenge.

                                                                                                                        Especially to the incredible shanky123 and team S.USA who fights down Team Norway! This was amazing to see ;)

                                                                                                                        Unfortunately there will be no interesting finish between mumps and my again. I will stop (not all ;) ) crunching at this level.

                                                                                                                        Good luck for all of you math freaks an challenge warriors!!

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                                                                                                                        Message 24439 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 12:26:49 UTC - in response to Message 24437.

                                                                                                                          Well congratulations to you Marodeur6. I guess if you have to stop somewhere, 10 million rocks is a pretty good place to rest!
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                                                                                                                          Message 24440 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 12:33:46 UTC - in response to Message 24437.

                                                                                                                            Congratulation to all participants and the administration for this nice challenge.

                                                                                                                            Especially to the incredible shanky123 and team S.USA who fights down Team Norway! This was amazing to see ;)

                                                                                                                            Unfortunately there will be no interesting finish between mumps and my again. I will stop (not all ;) ) crunching at this level.

                                                                                                                            Good luck for all of you math freaks an challenge warriors!!

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                                                                                                                            I second that! A job well done by all involved!

                                                                                                                            You sure made me work hard to make it past you this time Jörg. Maybe I can finally retire some of these 3.2 Ghz P4's. :-)

                                                                                                                            This has been a very enjoyable challenge.

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                                                                                                                            Message 24443 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 13:18:51 UTC

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                                                                                                                              The results are Final!

                                                                                                                              The Summer Solstice has arrived in the Northern Hemisphere. So too has the conclusion of the Challenge!!! This will be one Challenge that will go down in the record books. 2.45P of sieve work was crunched in 245K tasks resulting in over 68.5M cobblestones awarded. PrimeGrid's overall (Challenge + regular work) daily record was set with over 19.6M cobblestones for a 24 hour period surpassing the 15.9M record set during last year's Winter Solstice Challenge. Congratulations to everyone...this is an incredible milestone.

                                                                                                                              The TRP sieve reached an incomplete depth of over 5.84P with a daily rate that reached an unbelievable 1.02P/day at it's peak!!! Almost 250K factors were found. Needless to say, once the dust settles, we'll review if there's a need for a new sieve file as a result of all this work. :)

                                                                                                                              167 teams and 1298 individuals participated in the Challenge.

                                                                                                                              The Challenge Points stats will be updated soon. Congratulations to SETI.USA as the top team and shanky123 as the top individual. Remember, the top 100 individual and top 50 team places earn points for this Challenge.

                                                                                                                              Thank you again to everyone. We appreciate your participation and hope you had fun! Have a wonderful summer and we look forward to seeing you at the next Challenge - The Full Moon Challenge - 25 July - 24 hours on the PPS (LLR) application! Come howl at the moon with us as we bombard the Top 5000 Primes Pages with new primes. It's a GREAT opportunity for you to find one for yourself! Who knows, there may even be the rare Fermat number divisor. :)

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                                                                                                                              Top 10 Teams 1 SETI.USA 10586520.00 2 Team Norway 10008320.00 3 SETI.Germany 7293440.00 4 Sicituradastra. 3414040.00 5 Major Polish Teams Alliance 3220280.00 6 PBToyz 2959040.00 7 Team 2ch 2605120.00 8 BOINC@Poland 2238040.00 9 BOINCstats 1946560.00 10 Ars Technica 1862000.00 Top 10 Individuals 1 shanky123 Team Norway 8662920.00 2 Mr. Hankey SETI.USA 2740640.00 3 JerWA SETI.USA 2591400.00 4 University of the Free State Grid 2481080.00 5 Jeff17 PBToyz 1804040.00 6 Mumps SETI.USA 1235360.00 7 [SG]marodeur6 SETI.Germany 1154720.00 8 whizbang Ars Technica 1058680.00 9 Grzegorz Granowski Major Polish Teams Alliance 1022560.00 10 Scott Brown Duke University 878920.00


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                                                                                                                              Message 24456 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 18:09:43 UTC

                                                                                                                                I didn't know I was in it but the mighty Aggie The Pew (may her shadow never grow less) came 135th. Thanks for organising. I plan to have a proper go at the PPSE challenge tho'; see if I can do better at that.

                                                                                                                                Hasta la vista, baby.

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                                                                                                                                Message 24457 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 19:33:01 UTC

                                                                                                                                  This was a nice challenge. It's 9:30PM now, the sun is still blinding me, and I'm changing my settings back to the usual mix - bit of sieving, some LLR...

                                                                                                                                  Look at that shiny TRP-badge I got - the 321 one is from the last challenge :D


                                                                                                                                  Happy crunching everyone :)

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                                                                                                                                  Message 24458 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 20:00:57 UTC - in response to Message 24443.

                                                                                                                                    Is the PPSE (LLR) different from the PPS (LLR)? If so how do we choose it?
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                                                                                                                                    Message 24459 - Posted 21 Jun 2010 20:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 24458.

                                                                                                                                      Is the PPSE (LLR) different from the PPS (LLR)? If so how do we choose it?

                                                                                                                                      Sorry for the incomplete information. PPS (LLR) includes both PPS and PPSE work. For the Challenge, only PPSE work will be available. Therefore, all you have to do is select the PPS (LLR) application on your PrimeGrid preferences.
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                                                                                                                                      Message 24466 - Posted 22 Jun 2010 2:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 24459.

                                                                                                                                        Is the PPSE (LLR) different from the PPS (LLR)? If so how do we choose it?

                                                                                                                                        Sorry for the incomplete information. PPS (LLR) includes both PPS and PPSE work. For the Challenge, only PPSE work will be available. Therefore, all you have to do is select the PPS (LLR) application on your PrimeGrid preferences.


                                                                                                                                        Will manual PPSE work count towards the challenge?

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                                                                                                                                        Message 24467 - Posted 22 Jun 2010 2:27:47 UTC - in response to Message 24466.

                                                                                                                                          [Will manual PPSE work count towards the challenge?

                                                                                                                                          Only PPSE work in the BOINC PPS (LLR) application will count towards the Challenge. PRPNet PPSE work will not count.
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                                                                                                                                          Message 24501 - Posted 23 Jun 2010 13:12:20 UTC - in response to Message 24443.

                                                                                                                                            Special Note: PPS (LLR) includes both PPS and PPSE work. For the Challenge, only PPSE work will be available. PPSE (LLR) is currently at n=517K. It would be beneficial to advance this as much as possible before the next Challenge so as to ease the load on the server. Please consider heading over there early and help us reach at least n=550K. The higher the n, the less stress on the server.

                                                                                                                                            That's about 1K/day. That's not realistic, John.

                                                                                                                                            Currently the advancement is 0.28K/day.

                                                                                                                                            To avoid server load you should skip the challenge or exclude some monster crunchers :P ;)

                                                                                                                                            A few of them (UL1, marodeur6) retired voluntary. Many thanks to them for all the work they did here @PrimeGrid.
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                                                                                                                                            Message 24508 - Posted 23 Jun 2010 15:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 24501.

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                                                                                                                                              Special Note: PPS (LLR) includes both PPS and PPSE work. For the Challenge, only PPSE work will be available. PPSE (LLR) is currently at n=517K. It would be beneficial to advance this as much as possible before the next Challenge so as to ease the load on the server. Please consider heading over there early and help us reach at least n=550K. The higher the n, the less stress on the server.

                                                                                                                                              That's about 1K/day. That's not realistic, John.

                                                                                                                                              Currently the advancement is 0.28K/day.

                                                                                                                                              To avoid server load you should skip the challenge or exclude some monster crunchers :P ;)

                                                                                                                                              A few of them (UL1, marodeur6) retired voluntary. Many thanks to them for all the work they did here @PrimeGrid.

                                                                                                                                              Or, convince the monster crunchers to start now, and maybe n=550K is approachable.
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                                                                                                                                              Message 24512 - Posted 23 Jun 2010 17:04:52 UTC - in response to Message 24443.

                                                                                                                                                Special Note: PPS (LLR) includes both PPS and PPSE work. For the Challenge, only PPSE work will be available. PPSE (LLR) is currently at n=517K. It would be beneficial to advance this as much as possible before the next Challenge so as to ease the load on the server. Please consider heading over there early and help us reach at least n=550K. The higher the n, the less stress on the server.



                                                                                                                                                I just switched my sub-project preferences for my C2Q over to exclusively PPS LLR from a mix of PPS LLR & TRP (sieve) to help out in advance of the next challenge. Maybe I might get an extra prime or two on the list. This is fun!
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                                                                                                                                                Message 24514 - Posted 23 Jun 2010 17:47:29 UTC - in response to Message 24501.

                                                                                                                                                  That's about 1K/day. That's not realistic, John.

                                                                                                                                                  Currently the advancement is 0.28K/day.

                                                                                                                                                  To avoid server load you should skip the challenge or exclude some monster crunchers :P ;)

                                                                                                                                                  A few of them (UL1, marodeur6) retired voluntary. Many thanks to them for all the work they did here @PrimeGrid.

                                                                                                                                                  Realistic or not, we'll do our best to reach 550K. The week before the last Challenge we were averaging 1.3K per day. ;)

                                                                                                                                                  Although it's an ambitious goal, reaching 550K is not mandatory for a "safe" Challenge. It just helps increase the odds of a smooth start. For the 24 hours of the Challenge, we expect the server to be just fine. However, it may take longer for everyone to reach a full cache at the start.

                                                                                                                                                  All help is appreciated between now and then. :)
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                                                                                                                                                  Message 24517 - Posted 23 Jun 2010 19:30:11 UTC

                                                                                                                                                    I put my dual Xeon L5408 on ppsLLR in addition to my 4 regular hosts.
                                                                                                                                                    every little bit should help, more is financially unaffordable for my, and who knows: maybe i find one or another prime until the challenge begins.

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                                                                                                                                                      Had to shut down the host: Summer has finally arrived in Germany. 34°C outside, 28°C right now in the room after the sun has set... We are looking forward to round about 38°C on saturday...
                                                                                                                                                      Oh boy...
                                                                                                                                                      My stats are showing 13°C for 2010-04-26 and 20°C for 2010-05-29.

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                                                                                                                                                      Message 24612 - Posted 29 Jun 2010 22:10:41 UTC - in response to Message 24610.

                                                                                                                                                        Shut down most of my home stuff the start of June. It has been 100F here (38c) most of the last week. My air conditioner went out early last week and the house was at 90f (32c) the next day when the guy finally was able to come by and fix it.


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                                                                                                                                                        Message 24626 - Posted 1 Jul 2010 17:46:49 UTC

                                                                                                                                                          Its summer here in Texas, and its only 28C outside right now (today's high temp. is supposed to only be 32C, the warmest high forecast over the next 10 days is only 34C). Have the air conditioner set to 25C inside. Its a mild summer here so far. That will probably change soon. Back in May, we had some days over 38C, and my air conditioner decided to break down then. It was brutal in here back then, with inside temps. warmer than 40C.
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                                                                                                                                                          Message 24724 - Posted 7 Jul 2010 0:41:05 UTC


                                                                                                                                                            I have ~6k/day flowing on this since the last challenge... and I will be hammering the server for all I am worth once the challenge starts. Would you want it any other way... other than of course never taking a breather.. lol?
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