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Message boards : Sieving : PSP Sieving question

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Jim WilkinsProject donor
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Joined: 4 Sep 07
Posts: 230
ID: 11784
Credit: 123,756,985
RAC: 40,800
321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,394,977)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,378,274)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,415,771)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,409,003)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,397,443)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,022,627)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,380,169)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,392,142)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,360,002)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,401,192)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,411,529)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,010,304)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,004)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,945)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,320,387)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,010,599)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,124,676)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,507,348)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,618,612)
Message 21863 - Posted: 16 Mar 2010 | 3:29:25 UTC

Please excuse the ignorance, but something puzzles me.

If a sieving run finds a factor in PSP, than that particular number is composite, correct? Therefore the k associated with that number is a Prime Siersinski number. Since we are searching for "ks" lower than the lowest known, haven't we just found a new lowest? What am I missing?

Thanks,
Jim

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ID: 42483
Credit: 9,923,599
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,597)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (224,304)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (441,787)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,225)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,390,544)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,966,668)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (157,374)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,446)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (237,230)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (309,305)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,118)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,820)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (559,780)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,650,670)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,343)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (528,122)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (700,724)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (195,536)
Message 21864 - Posted: 16 Mar 2010 | 3:48:00 UTC - in response to Message 21863.

A Sierpinski number is a k for which k*2^n+1 is composite for EVERY n. We are just showing one n at a time that k*2^n+1 is composite.

We can NOT show that a k value IS a Sierpinski number this way, all we can do is look for an n value for which k*2^n+1 is PRIME. If we find a single n value that makes k*2^n+1 prime, then we have shown that k is NOT a Sierpinski number.

Hope that helps.
CW

Jim WilkinsProject donor
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Joined: 4 Sep 07
Posts: 230
ID: 11784
Credit: 123,756,985
RAC: 40,800
321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,394,977)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,378,274)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,415,771)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,409,003)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,397,443)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,022,627)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,380,169)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,392,142)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,360,002)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,401,192)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,411,529)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,010,304)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,004)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,945)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,320,387)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,010,599)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,124,676)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,507,348)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,618,612)
Message 21865 - Posted: 16 Mar 2010 | 3:49:33 UTC - in response to Message 21864.

I was missing the "EVERY".

Thanks,
Jim

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