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Hi all
I tried to parse the PRPNet-User-Stats-html-pages with saxxon to import them in a database to generate some stats for a port (yes SGS ;) ). But I waste my time - one error leads to an other. :(
What can help: same tables in xml!
Perhaps this is or may will be made possible ...
Anyone who tried it before ???
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The table generation is a bit of a mess on the stats pages, so saxon might bail out because of that.
(<td> tags are never closed)
You could clean this up before giving the output to saxon:
cat user_stats.html |sed "s/<\/tr>/<\/td><\/tr>/g"|sed "s/<td /<\/td><td /g"|sed "s/User ID<td>Total Score<td>Tests Performed<td>PRPs Found<td>Primes Found/User ID<\/td><td>Total Score<\/td><td>Tests Performed<\/td><td>PRPs Found<\/td><td>Primes Found<\/td>/"
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f you prefer CSV format to go on further you could use:
fgrep "<tr>" user_stats.html|egrep -v "Tests Performed"|sed "s/<td align=right>/;/g"|sed "s/<tr><td>//g"|sed "s/<\/tr>//g
Thus resulting in a very clean list for further operations.
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You might want to wait until PRPNet 3.0.0+ is released as it uses MySQL. I think there will be more flexibility for the stats tables at that time.
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thx to Lexs and John
your idea, Lexs, gave me a hint to the "tidy"-project. With this open-source-software it is possible to wellform html into xhtml. So I had not to script by myself if I using this nice tool ...
and John, i can not wait ;) lets have a try and then look forward ...
any result I will post here!
thx again
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Hi all
I tried to parse the PRPNet-User-Stats-html-pages with saxxon to import them in a database to generate some stats for a port (yes SGS ;) ). But I waste my time - one error leads to an other. :(
What can help: same tables in xml!
Perhaps this is or may will be made possible ...
Anyone who tried it before ???
Obviously HTML is fairly forgiving WRT missing end-tags.
What kind of stats do you need? Are the stats you need available on one of the stats pages? How do you intend to use the stats?
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beta test began now
i will collect hourly the user_stats from SGS and GCW13
if the hourly wget is a problem, please post and I will switch to other rhythm
What kind of stats do you need? Are the stats you need available on one of the stats pages? How do you intend to use the stats?
ad1) I like to see daily progress of users on single ports
ad2) As far as I know nobody collects and present user-stats for PrimeGrid PRPNet-Ports except of the user_stats.html, which only shows actual standings but not progress etc.
ad3) I will share it to PrimeGrid_Community and if you like it, you can get my skripting, database-export and so on ... (nothing hidden)
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I wrote a script to parse the stats page to something more usable:
http://primegrid.server-ubuntu.co.cc/11000.php
(this is for port 11000, I can do it for all the ports)
I didn't include the table headers, but they are the same and in the same order as these here: http://uwin.mine.nu:11000/user_stats.html
I can do this for every stats page, and I can host the scripts.
If you click the link it's possible you have to wait a litle, this is becouse I get the most recent user_stats page and parse it imediately so the things you see are the 'latest stats'.
I can also use a database to cache them and use a cron every hour to get the new data, if someone is interested just ask!
I've got 2 VPS servers so I got plenty of resources.
I can also host a php-stats scripts if anyone writes one. Than we can use a database.
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I see you were looking for SGS;
Check this:
http://primegrid.server-ubuntu.co.cc/12000.php
Again the table headers are just the same you can find here:
http://prpnet.primegrid.com:12000/user_stats.html
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thank you for your hosting offer
perhaps i will later come back to it ...
Meanwhile first data are collected.
You are welcome to visit
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/
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other stats-views will follow and - yes - layout is under construction, too ;)
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Meanwhile first data are collected.
You are welcome to visit
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/
and have a look where the journey goes.
other stats-views will follow and - yes - layout is under construction, too ;)
FPS, PPSE and PPSE10K integrated
PPSE11K is prepared, but had to been tested before integration (port is at the moment not reachable)
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Meanwhile first data are collected.
You are welcome to visit
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/
and have a look where the journey goes.
other stats-views will follow and - yes - layout is under construction, too ;)
FPS, PPSE and PPSE10K integrated
PPSE11K is prepared, but had to been tested before integration (port is at the moment not reachable)
PRS, 27121, GFN32768 and GFN65536 are collected since today
I think I got all PrimeGrid-Ports. If you miss any port, please post here!
PPSE11K is still offline :(
Next will be a better overview through all PRPNet-Ports and Layout ...
For bugs and wishes, please post here! Thanks!
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Good job.
This is rather a request for a feature - would be nice to have list of all projects for a selected user.
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would be nice to have list of all projects for a selected user.
I will see what can be done next week
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would be nice to have list of all projects for a selected user.
I will see what can be done next week
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your wish has been implemented!
Johns requested overview-page is the start-side.
any further suggestions?
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Wow you did a really nice job on that, I see with mine
JohnMJohnson---16515---41---0---0---0
That must mean port 20008 which is the one I do is the 16515 but for a long time its been around 70k so I'm curious if its for another port project I'm not thinking about, same with 41, if you could let me know I would love that, but don't take my questioning as a bad thing, you did an awesome job my friend, the community owes you big time for your work bro :)
PS: John approximately what date will the 3.0 be released? I didn't say definitive I just wanted an approximate :) Thanks a ton John :)
Edit- also forgot to mention, that its been a long time since I've recived any PSA credit for the port 20008 work I've been doing. just curious how many months it takes or if you guys are able to see when each work unit is done and by whom in the beta prpnet. just curious so I can deside if I want to continue or not. Thanks much :)
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Hey my friend
first of all: thanks; to you and all the others, who gave me a feedback or hints in the past
Two things:
1) out of your post I see, it would be nice to add the port-numbers to the project (through all tables)
2) I got my numbers from ...:<port>/user_stats.html. If there was a reset in the past (I collect since a few weeks), i can not handle it
btw. here you can see all your projects:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/user_search?uid=JohnMJohnson
JohnMJohnson---16515---41---0---0---0
your line seems to be from SGS, that is port 12000
To you and all the other here
Have a nice weekend !
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PS: John approximately what date will the 3.0 be released? I didn't say definitive I just wanted an approximate :) Thanks a ton John :)
Sometime soon.
Edit- also forgot to mention, that its been a long time since I've recived any PSA credit for the port 20008 work I've been doing. just curious how many months it takes or if you guys are able to see when each work unit is done and by whom in the beta prpnet. just curious so I can deside if I want to continue or not. Thanks much :)
All credit has been granted in the normal 1-2 week distribution for sieve work and 4-6 weeks for LLR work.
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For bugs and wishes, please post here! Thanks!
my own wish is coded, too
a list of all primefinders of today: look here
Implementation will follow and some syntactical corrections (thanks to HAmsty)
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For bugs and wishes, please post here! Thanks!
my own wish is coded, too
a list of all primefinders of today: look here
Implementation will follow and some syntactical corrections (thanks to HAmsty)
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The next release of PRPNet will have a user_primes.html page with primes found grouped by user. It will list the number, date reported, and ordered by decimal length.
Great news.
Any chance of having data from past and make them available?
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The next release of PRPNet will have a user_primes.html page with primes found grouped by user. It will list the number, date reported, and ordered by decimal length.
Great news.
Any chance of having data from past and make them available?
Yes and no. For now anything that is in the server will be reported. I will be adding a mechanism to delete older data from the server. I hadn't considered saving primes found before deleting the data. I will have to do that before I add any archive/delete functionality. |
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The next release of PRPNet will have a user_primes.html page with primes found grouped by user. It will list the number, date reported, and ordered by decimal length.
realy good news :thumbup:
For your idea I would suggest to not publish a prime number, before it is officially reported in the TOP5000. Any user should have his time to report, not that a dishonest Prime thief, they reported.
It is not my business but my passion, so if you need support or coding of what I have done, please send me a message.
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The next release of PRPNet will have a user_primes.html page with primes found grouped by user. It will list the number, date reported, and ordered by decimal length.
realy good news :thumbup:
For your idea I would suggest to not publish a prime number, before it is officially reported in the TOP5000. Any user should have his time to report, not that a dishonest Prime thief, they reported.
It is not my business but my passion, so if you need support or coding of what I have done, please send me a message.
I hadn't thought about that, although I'm not too worry about people stealing. Chris Caldwell makes routine adjustments to the Prime Pages when mistakes are found. |
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Would be nice to add port number to overview for all PRPNet-ports on PrimeGrid, perhaps as a second line in project name column.
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Would be nice to add port number to overview for all PRPNet-ports on PrimeGrid, perhaps as a second line in project name column.
Something like:
GCW13
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Implementation is a little bit difficult, because I use project name as variable for functions and in SQL statements, that I can use one function for every project ...
Meanwhile on every page is a link to "basic help" where project is mapped to port and basic stats.
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Would be nice to add port number to overview for all PRPNet-ports on PrimeGrid, perhaps as a second line in project name column.
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GCW13
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Implementation is a little bit difficult,...
easier than I thought - start page modified, other pages will follow this week
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Thanks, this is helpful for orientation.
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Would it be possible to see sum of all ports as another line?
Points, tests, users, PRPs, primes, daily stats, Top User or even User stats?
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Would it be possible to see sum of all ports as another line?
Points, tests, users, PRPs, primes, daily stats, Top User or even User stats?
This short text confused me a little bit (perhaps because I am not a native english speaker).
Do you want to have a summary line on overview page (like on user search)?
give me a hint, please!
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This short text confused me a little bit (perhaps because I am not a native english speaker).
Same here, not a native english.
Do you want to have a summary line on overview page (like on user search)?
Yes, sum on overview page.
Thread sum(all projects) as another project.
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Yes, sum on overview page.
done!
moved case sensitive user search from table head to table bottom
sum makes no sense for 'top user' and 'daily stats' (imho)
sum for 'users' will follow as soon as I found a performant sql-query across the project tables; perhaps there are some database changes to do ...
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A new page lets hope for weekly credit granting.
In consultation with John this summary page was created.
It will be generated in batch due to huge database traffic.
Generation time will be documented in the footer.
Note: Due to some silly behaviour the table is not sortable at the moment. Any further changes on this page will be discussed with PrimeGrid Admins (especially John) because this page will be base of PRPNet credit granting.
Meanwhile creation we discussed an additional line a user with data "total/tests since date". This data are not used for credit granting, make a lot of database traffic and imho is meaningless with batch generation, especially since John will grant credits still irregular depending on his time (I hope now more often than once a month ;-) ).
If a very large demand for these additional line exists and we can agree on fixed time intervals for the "since" data, I am willing to code another page, which will be generated in batch once or twice a day.
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sum makes no sense for 'top user' and 'daily stats' (imho)
sum for 'users' will follow as soon as I found a performant sql-query across the project tables; perhaps there are some database changes to do ...
Thanks,
sum for "top users" - work done regardless of PRPNet subproject, most productive participants etc. This makes perfect sense...as far as subprojects are giving similar points for work done.
Daily stats doesn't make much sense, ageed. Comparing projects instead of users may some some interesting numbers, perhaps not worth the effort.
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There are some issues due to the unreachable ports during the challenge.
I had to investigate how to handle ...
UPDATE:
The main problems are avoided at the moment, lets see what I made, if fails the whole day ...
This is a good test for the stats page free of annoying bugs that may occur ;-)
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Uups ...
there has been a reset on PPSE port 10K
and I am far away from my hosts :(
Stats for port PPSE10K will be silly as long as I am out of reach of my hosts.
Have a nice sunday!
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there has been a reset on PPSE port 10K
I copied the stats table to an archiv table and clean up the stats.
PPSE port 10K starts now with date 02/28/2010
the former stats will be included in an other page in the next few days ...
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two more features:
1) formerly/ancient stats are listed on http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/formerly.php;
you can reach the page over the link on the bottom of the basic stat page
2) a little online/offline overview: every update try (at the moment hourly) the port number is changed to red if it is not succesful. If the port is reachable for stats update, port number is changed to green
Have fun!
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Ad 2) Nice feature :-)
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Ad 2) Nice feature :-)
Thanks
yes, i works really well - currently every port is red
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ESP is now included
progress should appear tomorrow
If there is any issue please be patient. Due to a business travel i will not be online before thursday ...
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I do some updates on lucky PrimeFinder page
There was a bug: anyone who just started on a port and found a prime on first day was not displayed
I hope I fixed it now ...
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due to the finish PFDMC (port 7171) is moved to ancient ports
last update was done at 04/15/2010
PFDMC rest in peace - maybe there is a resurrection ????? - we will see ...
Have a nice weekend!
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today I had to do some updates (soft- and hardware)
the PRPNet-stats-pages will be offline sometimes ...
Sorry to all visitors, but work had to be done!
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hej to all
I switched stats-download for Port 11K according to this
Descriptions will be changed soon ... please be patient!
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hej to all
I switched stats-download for Port 11K according to this
Descriptions will be changed soon ... please be patient!
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John wrote: Additionally, a few more ports have been activated in PRPNet:
* //server=GFN262144:0:1:prime2u.com:11002
* //server=GFN524288:0:1:prime2u.com:11001
* //server=TRPDC:0:1:prime2u.com:11003
stats are online for these ports, progress will follow tomorrow, help page will be updated soon ...
If you catch any bug, be quick or patient: I am on holiday from june 12 to 20 and far away from my website....
Have fun with the new GFN searches
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what happens?
I am still on holiday and can not reach my servers at home
The whole communication interfaces are offline/unreachable
Tomorrow I will be back at home and see what happens
Please be patient ...
update:
DynDNS reports the IP-exchange last more than 36 hours.
imho there is a routing problem at home or at my internet service provider
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update:
DynDNS reports the IP-exchange last more than 36 hours.
imho there is a routing problem at home or at my internet service provider
another update:
DynDNS reports a new IP-exchange
stats page is online from my location, servers are running
some workunits of the challenge are reported near by the new IP exchange time
I think it was an ISP related problem, but I will check my servers tomorrow ...
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some of you found it under development, now it is ready and online:
I try to collect .../user_primes.html pages in a database table. If you make a user search, in the first table the user stats of any port is presented and (new) in a second table you find the users primes, which are published by PrimeGrid on user_primes.html page. As always table is sortable ..
Once again a big bold Thanks! to PrimeGrid user "grueny", who made me aware of the user_primes.html page.
help page has been further enhanced, in section "basic stats at PrimeGrid" you can find a link to .../user_primes.html page of any port
By the way: you can address most of my php pages directly. For user search type "http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/user_search?uid=" followed by your PRPNet user id. But beware, abbreviations lead to wrong outcomes!
As example my own user search page is adressed http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/user_search?uid=SysadmAtNbg
I hope you have fun with my little stats page.
And remeber: any suggestion is welcome!
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Wow, Great Job!
I really like the additions :)
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a "quickwin" from the prime table on my database:
you can get a list of all (probable) primes found by PrimeGrid PRPNet at http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/primelist.html, linked on start page near by the lucky prime finder.
It is static generated once an hour to lower database traffic.
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Nice.
I can see some strange decimal lenght of 35-42...
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I can see some strange decimal lenght of 35-42...
I have send a private message to lennart in order to know whether it PrimeGrid corrected or if I intervene with php-coding
please be patient according to the notes at top of the table!
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Some of you may registered yesterday a short outage round about 20:00 UTC
Due to a PSU-damage the system goes down ...
It was up again about half an hour later. I bridged the power from an other system.
Now I have to shutdown the system again to rebuild the bridge and to incorporate the new PSU. I hope stats side will be up soon ...
Please be patient!
Update:
Its up and running again!
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tonight there was a main poweroutage while I sleep
servers now are up and running ...
thanks for your patient!
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Would it be possible to show WUs available for each PRPNet sub-project?
Perhaps as 3rd line in Project column...
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Thanks for your feedback!
At the moment it isnt possible to show available workunits due to scanning only "user_stats.html" and "user_primes.html". I had to scan "server_stats.html" for this information.
It would be an advantage, to have an overview of available workunits. So I will think about it, please be patient!
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Would it be possible to show WUs available for each PRPNet sub-project?
Perhaps as 3rd line in Project column...
There is growing!
But as you can watch it has become the second column ...
detailed overviews (perhaps grafics) will follow
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Nice work, thanks :-)
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There is growing!
But as you can watch it has become the second column ...
detailed overviews (perhaps grafics) will follow
Have fun with it
Trend Micro does not like your website. I'll have to try from home.
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Trend Micro does not like your website. I'll have to try from home.
Argghhh - not again
Its time to look for a stable server-hoster to end the 24h-reconnect with new IP :(
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A small bug - server stats for GFN65536 and GFN32768 shows wrong numbers under Completed Thru, probably wrong variable.
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A small bug - server stats for GFN65536 and GFN32768 shows wrong numbers under Completed Thru, probably wrong variable.
Good evening Honza
I must be blind - I cant find any columne "Completed Thru" ...
Please specify the URL and the columne name as displayed on my page
Otherwise it is difficult to find the bug
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http://prpnet.primegrid.com:12005/server_stats.html
GFN32768
Completed Thru says 32768 (?!), while Min B is 3093872.
Leading Edge is 3208364, that is correct.
Same for GFN65536.
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ehm ...
in my responsibility are only pages on the URL http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/ ...
But I think PrimeGrid-admin (especially Lennart as PRPNet-server-admin) are aware of the bug right now according to my inbox ;)
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http://prpnet.primegrid.com:12005/server_stats.html
GFN32768
Completed Thru says 32768 (?!), while Min B is 3093872.
Leading Edge is 3208364, that is correct.
Same for GFN65536.
That is definitely a code bug in PRPNet. The bug in in GFNStatsUpdater.cpp. Replace the appropriate section with lines of code:
if (nextToTest == 0)
sprintf(completedSQL, "(select max(b) from Candidate where n = %d)", theN);
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something wrong with Primorial ??
today one workunit crunched - 2,300,682 points earned for this??
I cant believe that ...
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something wrong with Primorial ??
today one workunit crunched - 2,300,682 points earned for this??
I cant believe that ...
I have got some errors on that port when I upgraded it.
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!Announcement!
Due to a power outage I had to shutdown my servers today round about 12:00 UTC. Restart will not be before 24:00 UTC ...
Thanks for your patience
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just to promote a new feature. there is now an overtake feature available at alluser_stats.php.
for example:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/alluser_stats.php?proj=PRS
click on your row and see how many days you have left for overtaking your opponents or to be overtaken.
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Would it be possible to have similar on Summary page (by sum-total column)?
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/credit_summary.html
Perhaps some sorting as well..
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Would it be possible to have similar on Summary page (by sum-total column)?
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/credit_summary.html
Perhaps some sorting as well..
According to the footer
"Due to some silly behaviour it is not sortable at the moment. Any further changes on this page will be discussed with PrimeGrid Admins (especially John) because this page is base of PRPNet credit granting."
I will investigate it again, but i can not promise anything ...
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Would it be possible to have similar on Summary page (by sum-total column)?
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/credit_summary.html
Perhaps some sorting as well..
second step before first ;)
table is now sortable, please press second header row ...
first step is still under investigation!
Have fun with sorting meanwhile
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table is now sortable, please press second header row ...
a too fast going online
seems to me there is a bug with large numbers :(
Update
fixed it - javascript-function "replace" stops after fist match if you do not use regexp
now I use it :D
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Stats servers looks to be down.
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seems to me like a networking problem
server reports still boinc-workunits
I think it is online but not reachable
unfortunatly I wont be back at home not before sunday ... :(
Perhaps the daily reconnect from my ISP will make it reachable tomorrow morning
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seems to me like a networking problem
server reports still boinc-workunits
I think it is online but not reachable
can´t find any problem on my local infrastructure
done: a disconnect to my internet service provider and then a reboot of my router (including the reconnect to my internet service provider)
hope it helps
Edit: meanwhile I see some action in my webserver log ...
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Due to the start of a new server version on PPSE10K I will archive old data
The temporary issues will be fixed later today ...
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Due to the start of a new server version on PPSE10K I will archive old data
The temporary issues will be fixed later today ...
old data is available via ancient stats.
progress in PPSE10K will follow automatic tomorrow ;)
If you suspect any error or if you have any suggestion, feel free to post here or send me a private message ...
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Due to the start of a new server version on PPSE10K I will archive old data
The temporary issues will be fixed later today ...
old data is available via ancient stats.
progress in PPSE10K will follow automatic tomorrow ;)
If you suspect any error or if you have any suggestion, feel free to post here or send me a private message ...
Thank you.
That gives the word prime time a new meaning :)
find . | grep test_results.log | xargs grep "PRIME" | wc -l
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due to the test of PRPNet 4.0.1 on port PPSE11K a new set of ancient stats was build: PPSE11K_20101019
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I have extend user_search.php: additionally, the ancient ports are listed in a second table. Now you can get an impression of your actual and ancient work done
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Thanks for the stats...I really like them....
Can I make the assumption that the current and ancient totals are represented in the totals? I am asking because I noticed some users with negative points, but am assuming that is only due to the 'ancient' stats being moved to a different table....
Thanks again for the hard work of making the stat tables....
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Can I make the assumption that the current and ancient totals are represented in the totals? I am asking because I noticed some users with negative points, but am assuming that is only due to the 'ancient' stats being moved to a different table....
Thanks for your feedback!
Indeed: it is a problem of coordination the moving. If data from old and new are mixed there is the possibility of negativ values for people, which very quick start crunching on the new. I am not 7x24h near by my database to make it just in time. Sorry, but sometimes real life is more important than negative points ;-)
My best practice to do the movement is to not stop the scanning of the port. If I be informed by PrimeGrid admin before the movement, I can do a backup copy before and clear the database tables. If the information does not reach me (because I am not 7x24h online ;-) ), I had to split the mixed table. Until it is split, there is a chance to get negative values and this can not be fixed, because the yesterday values are higher than the today low values of the new ...
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fixed a bug with primes from PPSE11K
now they are stored on database and available via stats pages ...
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to all, who search for up or down PRPNet servers:
right under the port description in first column is the status of port signaled by red or green
red - it is down and does not answer
green - it is up and answer to stats requests (maybe it is empty, thats shown in second column)
I check every port in an interval of 30 minutes - so you can get an quick overview by visiting http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/
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Due to the large amount of primes from ports 10K and 11K the complete prime list is growing to 171,84 KB at the moment. The sort function become slower and slower.
So I think it is time to split it!
Do you like a split based on month?
Do you like a split based on ports?
both?
Any other suggestions?
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Due to the large amount of primes from ports 10K and 11K the complete prime list is growing to 171,84 KB at the moment. The sort function become slower and slower.
So I think it is time to split it!
Do you like a split based on month?
Do you like a split based on ports?
both?
Any other suggestions?
Ports
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Due to the large amount of primes from ports 10K and 11K the complete prime list is growing to 171,84 KB at the moment. The sort function become slower and slower.
So I think it is time to split it!
Do you like a split based on month?
Do you like a split based on ports?
both?
Any other suggestions?
Both - Ports then Time (as Needed) maybe Years or Quarters of a year, depends on the numbers.
you can split it up to bi-monthly if needed or even weekly - but let the number make the determination
But Ports first - as the first split then split again as needed
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Thanks for your feedback!
Coding is on my workplan, but not done yet.
During the challenge test, I found a great heat on my web server. I must now examine the fan and thermal grease, this is a time-out is necessary. I am planning for this Friday afternoon.
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During the challenge test, I found a great heat on my web server. I must now examine the fan and thermal grease, this is a time-out is necessary. I am planning for this Friday afternoon.
dust bunnies away from cpu fan;
applied new thermal paste;
and now cpu is back at normal temperature.
hope it will stay for a while at this level ...
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Stats hiccup?
My PPSE10K points just vanished.
Ralf_Recker 12,743 -349,720 362,463 0 -349,720 12,743
The overview for the sub projects look like this:
PPSE10K 12,743 (+ -349,720) 1,530 (+ -122,502) 0 (+ 0) 1 (+ -186)
The primes grow for PPSE10K for today also dropped to -83:
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Looks like the PRPNet Server is making problems:
http://uwin.mine.nu:10000/user_stats.html
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PSA cobblestones for PRPNet will be suspended until we can determine what is happening. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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Stats hiccup?
My PPSE10K points just vanished.
Ralf_Recker 12,743 -349,720 362,463 0 -349,720 12,743
The overview for the sub projects look like this:
PPSE10K 12,743 (+ -349,720) 1,530 (+ -122,502) 0 (+ 0) 1 (+ -186)
The primes grow for PPSE10K for today also dropped to -83:
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You have not been here for awhile (10K) There was a points drop in 30 October. I think this is your problem. We all have gone through this. There are some people will have the the same problem once they start 10K again. ie LookAS and JohnGalt007 will drop point like you did - Pilgrim drop over 8 Million points
See my history or any one else - 30th of October was a bad day - still haunts us :)
http://http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/
Then select user - hit GO
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You have not been here for awhile (10K) There was a points drop in 30 October. I think this is your problem. We all have gone through this. There are some people will have the the same problem once they start 10K again. ie LookAS and JohnGalt007 will drop point like you did - Pilgrim drop over 8 Million points
See my history or any one else - 30th of October was a bad day - still haunts us :)
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/
Then select user - hit GO
Steve
Thanks. My CPUs were busy at the NPLB challenge that time otherwise I might have noticed these problems earlier.
Update:
...and of course the only thing that haunts me is the new color of my PSA badge ;)
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There has be a stats reset on 10/30/2010 due to db problems on port 10K
Good news:
I will split bad stats later the day and create a new ancient stats table up to 10/29/2010. Then a work done decrease will not more happen until next accident ...
Bad news:
work from 10/30/2010 until the db crash is lost. Neither lennart nor I could recreate the stats for this time.
This will be done later the day ...
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It is done!
work until 10/29/2010 can be found in ancient stats
work since 10/30/2010 can be found in normal stats
users who have not done workunits since 10/30/2010 have been droped from normal stats
user who have done workunits since 10/30/2010 are included, but only from the day of the first new workunits (e.g. the history of Ralf began on 11/13/2010)
In my opinion the stats from port 10K are fixed now. If you find any further bug, please post here ...
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Thank you for your efforts!
I'll switch my quad back to PRPNet after the the DNETC race.
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I consider Ports like 10000 and 11000 as sort of "fun"
ports because they units are fast and do not produce significant
primes.....so losing 8,000,000 points is, I guess, not the end
of the world.
However, for other ports, it DOES matter.
I would be mad as hell if I lost my 50,000,000 points on
port 12001 and even madder if I lost my +100,000,000 points
on port 9000.
"There is nothing we can do about it" would not be acceptable.
If it were to happen on those ports I would be outta here
and take my computing power to a DC project that CAN do
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I consider Ports like 10000 and 11000 as sort of "fun"
ports because they units are fast and do not produce significant
primes.....so losing 8,000,000 points is, I guess, not the end
of the world.
However, for other ports, it DOES matter.
I would be mad as hell if I lost my 50,000,000 points on
port 12001 and even madder if I lost my +100,000,000 points
on port 9000.
"There is nothing we can do about it" would not be acceptable.
If it were to happen on those ports I would be outta here
and take my computing power to a DC project that CAN do
something about it.
Cheers
I agree 10 & 11K are a lot fun. lots of prime but .......
a great way to boost ones self after a round of WOO SOB or even the PSP(LLR)'s of which I am running a few before the Challenge
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"There is nothing we can do about it" would not be acceptable
I have done my very best, so you get stats until 10/29 and from db reset on 10/30 up to now
lennart has not any history on prpnet server, so a db reset cause a start on level zero
If that is not enough for you, make it on your own and share it to the world ...
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Hold back all of them horses. Lets take a breath..........
Stats are a little lost if you do not know where to find them.
So, Lets Find Them......
Go to Message boards:
Then - Project Staging Area:
Then - PRPNet (Top of the list, 1st thread)
Then - To the 1st post (top of the list if you sort oldest post first, or last if you sort newest post first)
In that post (message # 13329) Welcome to PRPNet!
go down the that post to Basic Stats:
Now we have links to all of the Stats we need. But sometimes one can get a little bit lost.
So lets give it a go - Select Detailed daily user stats courtesy of Sysadm@Nbg
Thank you Sysadm@Nbg
Now we are at the page overview for all PRPNet-ports on PrimeGrid
Wow .... everything about all of the ports we ever need.
red port names are off line green one are just waiting to send you all of the WU's your cruncher will want.
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Now lets pick a project any project one that you have crunched for ...
Now click on the top three user of that project. I would say 10K because I am the #1 user in that project :)
So now click on my name or any name => link to
PRPNet-port-search for user
%Steve_Martin@SETI.USA%
Top of this page is active ports
Then ancient ports ===============Wow the missing stats
(I do not think any are missing======maybe only a few hrs if that)
Then list of (probable) primes of user
BTW: you can get to ancient ports from the bottom of the Detailed daily user stats page.
A lot of fun features here in the stats pages. have fun
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I would like to thank Sysadm@Nbg for all of his hard work here on these pages.
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I joined PSA in 22 Feb 2010
My first Prime PPSE 8221*2^700776+1 210959 digits long - entered the top 5000 at 1214
=> I am still a bit giddy about this one. I must have danced around for a week.
http://primes.utm.edu/primes/page.php?id=91967
=> my eyes are a bit moist now.................no tears, just moist, just a little bit
The Time I have spent here with PrimeGrid & PRPNet are......
Just a Big round of Thanks to Sysadm@Nbg & John & Lennart !!!
You have made 2010 one of the best years of my life
All of the PrimeFinders are a good family to belong to.
Thanks again for all of your Friendship,
Steve Martin
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To Sysadm@Nbg:
you are taking this as an attack against the help you have provided,
lennart, and/or your coding skills.
it was not.
It is against the idea that it is inevitable that all PRPNET user stats are temporary and will eventually be wiped out for one reason or another.
"Archive stats" are not exactly the point.
The attitude that "if you don't like it code it yourself"
hardly creates a user friendly atmosphere.
Not all contributors are coders or want to be.
PRPNET users should be warned their stats are, in a sense.
temporary depending on servers db's, power outages, whatever.
Tell the Boinc users that all their stats will be wiped out, (or Seti users) and you might want to hide out.
Wouldn't fly at Seti.
Or on Boinc.
As silly as it is and has always been, people find stats and
rankings very important.
I am sure you remember the war when they changed from Clasic SETI
to the currentt SETI.
but i guess it is pointless to pursue on PrimeGrid because
it has such little financial and community support....unlike, for
instance, mersenne.org.
o.k.
I give up.
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I appreciate work done on detailed stats for prpnet, great job.
But I would mind loosing real results (primes found) from PRPNet. And since I don't see them on BOINC part of PG and no progress made on this, that makes me nervous.
(not that loosing stats would make me happy of course).
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PSA cobblestones for PRPNet will be suspended until we can determine what is happening. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Do you mean you'll give them all later, or do you mean we won't get any cobblestones (ever) for the work we are doing now?
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Currently i'm neither concerned about the credits or primes, nor any stats but about one thing:
Incidents like the above are well suited to scare the volunteer developers away. I fully
understand the concerns about the possible loss of work or data on PRPnet but considering
the style of the critic the reponse was justified.
@Ward:
I guess the PSA credits for PRPNet will be granted later probably after the database problems
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For what it's worth, since the start of PRPNet on 31 December 2008, there has been only one case in which a server crashed and data was lost. This occurred 30 October 2010, and only to Port 10K. This did not affect any other ports. Because of the crash, manual cobblestones were lost. Fortunately, credit was applied just before the crash, so less than 6 hours of work were lost. We apologize for this and now have implemented daily backups...although even daily backups would not have helped much in this case.
Stats resets have happened in the past. This is quite different from the crash in which data was lost. With stats resets, technically data still remains although it doesn't show up on the specific port stats. Uli has static copies of data before the reset. Therefore, he includes these static copies in his stats collection. Now they are more visible in "ancient stats".
We fully understand the importance of stats and have done our best to maintain the integrity of them. We also understand that lack of information leads inevitably to speculation. Should any issues arise in the future, we'll do a better job communicating to everyone the details of what has happened.
p.s. As for including PRPNet primes into PrimeGrid's database, this will occur when Rytis has the time to implement.
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. Fortunately, credit was applied just before the crash, so less than 6 hours of work were lost.
I was wondering why my credit wasn't applied....is it due to the later DB problem on @ 11/12/10? I was at @2.5 mil before I restarted with PSA, and am at @5.6 mil right now, and was before the problem on 10/30/10, but haven't seen an uptick in my PSA credits. Thanks...
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. Fortunately, credit was applied just before the crash, so less than 6 hours of work were lost.
I was wondering why my credit wasn't applied....is it due to the later DB problem on @ 11/12/10? I was at @2.5 mil before I restarted with PSA, and am at @5.6 mil right now, and was before the problem on 10/30/10, but haven't seen an uptick in my PSA credits. Thanks...
11/12/10 was not a PSA credit issue. Less than 6 hours on 10/30/10 only on port 10000 was. You haven't seen a PSA credit update because it's been temporarily put on hold. It should resume shortly.
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. Fortunately, credit was applied just before the crash, so less than 6 hours of work were lost.
I was wondering why my credit wasn't applied....is it due to the later DB problem on @ 11/12/10? I was at @2.5 mil before I restarted with PSA, and am at @5.6 mil right now, and was before the problem on 10/30/10, but haven't seen an uptick in my PSA credits. Thanks...
11/12/10 was not a PSA credit issue. Less than 6 hours on 10/30/10 only on port 10000 was. You haven't seen a PSA credit update because it's been temporarily put on hold. It should resume shortly.
No worries....it's only credits.....just wondering....keep up the good work, and keep sending me them prime emails from the challenge....
In fact I just got another one!!!!!
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. Fortunately, credit was applied just before the crash, so less than 6 hours of work were lost.
I was wondering why my credit wasn't applied....is it due to the later DB problem on @ 11/12/10? I was at @2.5 mil before I restarted with PSA, and am at @5.6 mil right now, and was before the problem on 10/30/10, but haven't seen an uptick in my PSA credits. Thanks...
11/12/10 was not a PSA credit issue. Less than 6 hours on 10/30/10 only on port 10000 was. You haven't seen a PSA credit update because it's been temporarily put on hold. It should resume shortly.
Any updates as to when the PSA credit is going to be applied?
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. Fortunately, credit was applied just before the crash, so less than 6 hours of work were lost.
I was wondering why my credit wasn't applied....is it due to the later DB problem on @ 11/12/10? I was at @2.5 mil before I restarted with PSA, and am at @5.6 mil right now, and was before the problem on 10/30/10, but haven't seen an uptick in my PSA credits. Thanks...
11/12/10 was not a PSA credit issue. Less than 6 hours on 10/30/10 only on port 10000 was. You haven't seen a PSA credit update because it's been temporarily put on hold. It should resume shortly.
Any updates as to when the PSA credit is going to be applied?
Bump....
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PSA Credit is currently trickling in for me. I don't know if you were talking about PSA credit in general or just the PSA credit that was missed because of whatever happened to the server.
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Are there any detailed stats for BOINC as well? To show e.g. top participants in 321LLR and the like?
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not on my pages
but may I lead you to free-dc.org eg http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userwork&proj=pgrid&subproj=321_LLR
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not on my pages
but may I lead you to free-dc.org eg http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userwork&proj=pgrid&subproj=321_LLR
Great, thanks!
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new feature:
During "Last 10 days of 2010 Challenge" there were some unofficial stats for SR5
Now the collaboration is offical, so the unofficial stats for SR5 became offical.
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SR5 officially, work loaded for N=600k, good.
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Pending test for SR5 looks fine but server stats seems to be stucked.
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why do you think so?
only thing I do is save and sum http://prime2u.com:7171/server_stats.html
maybe there are some older ranges, which I delete from time to time ...
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why do you think so?
Upon returning from work, I hit refresh and numbers are still the same.
John confirmed there is a problem on server-side, your detailed stats are fine.
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The Riesel Problem double checks (TRPDC - Port 11003) was moved to "formerly stats on PRPNet-Stats".
Reason:
- it was not reachable a long time
- it is not listed in the project list anymore
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two little announcements:
1) According to this post I renamed project 27121 to 27
2) Due to the migration of servers the list of user primes is not up to date until I changed the scanning of the migrated server.
In future you may ask for team stats (new feature of PRPNet). It is on the workplan ...
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In future you may ask for team stats (new feature of PRPNet). It is on the workplan
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There are 2 beta stats pages for team scoring:
an overview/search:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_search?tid=<your_team_case_sensitive>
e.g. http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_search?tid=SETI.Germany
a detailed project stats for a team:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_stats?tid=<your_team_case_sensitive>&proj=<subproject>
e.g. http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_stats?tid=SETI.Germany&proj=SR5
feel free to test it and make any suggestion
more to come but I have little time right now ... :(
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1) According to this post I renamed project 27121 to 27
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I've noticed that since this change I am no longer seeing updated stats for Port 12006 at
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/user_search?uid=TheDawgz
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http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/credit_summary.html USER=TheDawgz
Both pages are currently showing: Score = 2,993,949 Tests = 512
However the stats are changing at
http://prpnet.primegrid.com:12006/user_stats.html USER=TheDawgz
Currently showing: Score = 3,590,818 Tests = 560
The stats for the other ports that I am working on are updating properly.
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Thanks for the hint John
due to an scripting error no update since 01/17/2010 reached the database
from now on it will be up to date
Have a nice weekend
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Thank you for the fix - as well as all your work on the greatly appreciated PRPNet stats pages!
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In future you may ask for team stats (new feature of PRPNet). It is on the workplan
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There are 2 beta stats pages for team scoring:
an overview/search:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_search?tid=<your_team_case_sensitive>
e.g. http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_search?tid=SETI.Germany
a detailed project stats for a team:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_stats?tid=<your_team_case_sensitive>&proj=<subproject>
e.g. http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_stats?tid=SETI.Germany&proj=SR5
feel free to test it and make any suggestion
more to come but I have little time right now ... :(
Is SR5 the only port that is updating daily?
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/team_search?tid=PrimeSearchTeam
I have done some work in other ports also, but those are not showing up in team_stats:
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/user_search?uid=Lumiukko
Or is it just because of the beta status...
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While creating an allteam_stats page, I was curious about this, too.
Now I found the mistake: I made the "team" index in the database table unique, so all previos saved results were droped out automaticly, and you cant see any progress.
Now I changed the faulty index
btw: SR5 is not affected
sorry for that mistake!
next feature: one project, all teams
http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/allteam_stats?proj=<project>
e.g. http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/allteam_stats?proj=SR5
Note: the other projects are sensless until there is a saved history (tomorrow morning I hope)
Update: I inserted the missing lines from the crash backup export, so there is some progress ;)
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due to the upgrade to v4.1.1 port PPSE11K was included in team-stats, prime collecting was fixed
new feature: Tour de Primes 2011
please follow the link on main page to http://vcn94.homelinux.org/PRPNet/tourdeprimes_2011.html
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Sysadm - is your server down, or is it just my crappy internet? I can't seem to access anything on the PRPNet stats site.
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