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Eliminated 1 conjecture "k"321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,036)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,437)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (853,830)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,928)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (61,198)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (250,964)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (32,318)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,729)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,226)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (50,866)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (46,266)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,729)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (43,759)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (22,832)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,179)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,140,209)
Message 19626 - Posted: 10 Dec 2009 | 20:43:14 UTC

What happened to these work units (Sophie Germain)

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=95561113

I have another 26 identical to that

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Message 19656 - Posted: 11 Dec 2009 | 9:01:11 UTC - in response to Message 19626.

That's a "feature" of BOINC that apparently hides WU information for apps that are using adaptive replication so that it is harder to cheat. I'll see what can be done about that.
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (50,802)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,106)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,350)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,210)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (27,055)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,826)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,609)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (70,873)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,185)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,034)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (24,551)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (40,040)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (159,148)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (344,961)
Message 20018 - Posted: 22 Dec 2009 | 11:12:10 UTC

Yeah I have about 15 waiting with all Suppressed Completion in them. sucks if they are prime :(
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,744)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (114,325)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,305,821)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (471,688)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (180,347)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,917)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (582,452)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (45,752)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (873,512)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (29,709)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (636,635)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (917,856)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,152,709)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (504,658)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (445,828)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (204,761)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,740,217)
Message 20321 - Posted: 8 Jan 2010 | 16:41:14 UTC

any news on this feature? i have over 520 SGS Wus pending :(
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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,045,964)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,023,566)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,021,061)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,080,021)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,142,440)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,109,761)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,069,227)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,019,335)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,131,335)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,001)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,017,688)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,099,788)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,088,910)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,247,691)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (42,978,961)PPS Sieve Double Ruby: Earned 2,000,000,000 credits (2,744,666,150)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,215,460)TRP Sieve (suspended) Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (102,264,922)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,537,729)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,192,662)PSA Double Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000,000 credits (1,343,866,777)
Message 21951 - Posted: 19 Mar 2010 | 19:19:19 UTC - in response to Message 20321.

any news on this feature? i have over 520 SGS Wus pending :(


Still the same behaviour.... That's the only LLR subproject doing this way. Is there any particular reson for this?

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,978)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (151,232)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,071)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,082)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,017,500)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (214,653)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (302,417)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,058)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (163,887)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 21953 - Posted: 19 Mar 2010 | 19:33:38 UTC

BOINC is hiding the data about WUs from this project because we're only doing a single pass on some of them. If it was known that a WU you're doing is only having a single pass it would be easy to simply cheat and return bogus data, hence BOINC is hiding it until it is validated.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (349,355)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,473)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,802)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,165,293)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,459)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (179,417)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (511,700)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (230,915)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (223,001)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,111,877)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (438,658)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,468)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,002,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,670,568)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,700,165)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,297,154)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,030,996)
Message 25777 - Posted: 22 Aug 2010 | 17:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 21953.
Last modified: 22 Aug 2010 | 17:27:19 UTC

BOINC is hiding the data about WUs from this project because we're only doing a single pass on some of them. If it was known that a WU you're doing is only having a single pass it would be easy to simply cheat and return bogus data, hence BOINC is hiding it until it is validated.


which is completely silly since one can see his claimed credit on his own list of pending results as long as they are pending.

and of course this is in no way a measure to prevent users from cheating - it will only not be visible to others.

so in fact this "feature" will probably be considered nice by those who are doing this.

another brilliant idea...

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,318,762)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,016,870)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,041,614)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (498,931)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,883,258)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,366,212)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,232,502)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,019,149)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,103,015)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,041,274)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,008,741)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,596)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,002,927)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,027,442)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,659,062)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,056,828)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,697,243)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,337,885)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (124,966,534)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,937,567)
Message 25789 - Posted: 22 Aug 2010 | 19:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 25777.

BOINC is hiding the data about WUs from this project because we're only doing a single pass on some of them. If it was known that a WU you're doing is only having a single pass it would be easy to simply cheat and return bogus data, hence BOINC is hiding it until it is validated.


which is completely silly since one can see his claimed credit on his own list of pending results as long as they are pending.

and of course this is in no way a measure to prevent users from cheating - it will only not be visible to others.

so in fact this "feature" will probably be considered nice by those who are doing this.

another brilliant idea...

The point is to hide the number of replications from all users until validated. If you can see it on your pending list you can hardly cheat with that task anymore.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (349,355)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,473)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,802)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,165,293)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,459)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (179,417)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (511,700)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (230,915)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (223,001)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,111,877)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (438,658)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,468)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,002,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,670,568)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,700,165)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,297,154)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,030,996)
Message 25792 - Posted: 22 Aug 2010 | 19:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 25789.

The point is to hide the number of replications from all users until validated. If you can see it on your pending list you can hardly cheat with that task anymore.


yup - one would need to take the next one...

... of course this is ends up about the same as waiting for a pending one to get validated and see what you have squeezed out.

just my 5 cents: fixed credits for a certain amout of work done successfully is the only way. for sure this requires a validator that's really working.

lately i was able to watch results being reported with totally erratic runtimes simply because this whole concept is really fouled up now - walltime 30 minutes, reported 6, and granted for those 6 according to that really crazy benchmurks. :(


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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,318,762)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,016,870)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,041,614)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (498,931)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,883,258)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,366,212)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,232,502)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,019,149)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,103,015)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,041,274)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,008,741)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,596)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,002,927)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,027,442)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,659,062)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,056,828)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,697,243)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,337,885)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (124,966,534)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,937,567)
Message 25793 - Posted: 22 Aug 2010 | 20:15:35 UTC - in response to Message 25792.

The point is to hide the number of replications from all users until validated. If you can see it on your pending list you can hardly cheat with that task anymore.


yup - one would need to take the next one...

... of course this is ends up about the same as waiting for a pending one to get validated and see what you have squeezed out.

You'd have to get lucky the first time as you won't be the only checker for a while once caught cheating. More info in the Trac wiki

I agree that fixed credits are the best way, but I understand that it's probably tough for this project to implement in LLRs with changing n values. However, the current benchmarks should be replaced by something more reliable.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (349,355)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,473)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,802)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,165,293)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,459)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (179,417)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (511,700)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (230,915)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (223,001)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,111,877)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (438,658)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,468)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,002,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,670,568)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,700,165)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,297,154)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,030,996)
Message 25795 - Posted: 22 Aug 2010 | 20:27:33 UTC - in response to Message 25793.

I agree that fixed credits are the best way, but I understand that it's probably tough for this project to implement in LLRs with changing n values


really?

go ask those guys running projects with precalculated credits on WU's with differing difficulty - SIMAP and QMC come to my mind here..




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