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Found 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,010,156)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,090,046)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,041,296)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,033,524)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,624,866)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,327,930)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,918,076)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,515,068)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,115,924)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,937,766)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,003,498)321 Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,432,077)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,895,606)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,137,451)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (307,478,712)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (627,444)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,956,401)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (61,982,820)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,335,066)WW (retired) Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (259,040,000)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (89,428,356)
Message 13599 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 10:40:24 UTC

27_104T.zip is the current sieve file

your output shows you pointing to a file 27_110T
perhaps here is the failure ???
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Message 13600 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 11:15:00 UTC
Last modified: 14 Feb 2009 | 11:16:14 UTC

There is no 27_104T.zip in the sievefile directory, only 27_110T.zip. The 27_110T.txt is in the same directory as the sr2sieve executable.

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 13601 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 11:40:42 UTC - in response to Message 13599.

27_104T.zip is the current sieve file

your output shows you pointing to a file 27_110T
perhaps here is the failure ???



That is a typo :)


The filename is 27_110.zip

It was sieved to 104T when i started. I have sieved it up to 110T.

The file you shall use is 27_110T.zip


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Message 13602 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 12:43:27 UTC

Lennart,

Any suggestions to my problem? I have everything setup the same as I have in PPSE or Primorial sieves, but this one just doesn't like to cooperate.

If I leave out the -i option, sr2sieve errors out with

"ERROR: Failed to open input file `sr2data.txt'."

But with above command line it gives

"ERROR: Invalid or unrecognised file `27_110T.txt'."

so maybe there's something wrong with the sieve file?

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Message 13604 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 13:04:28 UTC

I see the same as vkojlf.
Looks like a normal newpgen format file.
Shouldn't we be running this with sr1sieve at this stage?

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Message 13608 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 14:59:16 UTC
Last modified: 14 Feb 2009 | 15:04:46 UTC

make a file "sr1sieve-command-line.txt"

Download sr1sieve-1.4.1-bin.zip http://pgllr.mine.nu/software/sr1sieve/

sr1sieve -p110e12 -P111e12 -i27_110T.txt -ff27_110T-111T.txt -t4 -q
Use this on a quad Linux
-t4 is use all 4 core

sr1sieve -p110e12 -P111e12 -i27_110T.txt -ff27_110T-111T.txt -q
Use this on Windows

This example shows sieve 110T to 111T

!!!!! There is no checkpoint !!!!!!

If you stop it you have to check where you stoped it and change
-p110e12 to where you stoped it.

Example: if you stop at 110541000122345 Change -p to -p110541e9



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Message 13636 - Posted: 15 Feb 2009 | 10:47:28 UTC

I'm using latest sr2sieve.exe to do 12121.
On E5430 (2,66GHz with 12MB cache) it is doing about 5,45Mp/sec each core, Win x64.

Needs different format for input sieve file but actually *does* checkpoint.
(one of my quads restarted unexpected but was able to continue after 35 hours of sitting idle from where it stopped).
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Message 13846 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009 | 23:42:50 UTC
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As you said I can see a small speed increase with the new sievefile, my new reservation (just started) will be ready one hour earlyer

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Message 13847 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009 | 0:16:38 UTC - in response to Message 13846.

As you said I can see a small speed increase with the new sievefile, my new reservation (just started) will be ready one hour earlyer


Bah! I started my reservation about 3 hours prior to this being posted!
I'll let it run to completion with 27_110T rather than fiddle about with it.


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Message 13860 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009 | 15:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 13847.

You can stop the sieve, copy the first line from the old sieve file, delete the first line form the new sievefile and place the first line from the other sieve file there, then restart the sieve and everything will work well
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Message 13864 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009 | 17:49:49 UTC

I am just starting to dabble in this. I have very carefully followed the instructions on how to work around the non-checkpoint issue. I read in another post that if you stop the run, you would need check the log and insert the last value in the header of the sieve. I set up a little test run, and when I stop the sr1 app, it seems that the header for the sieve file is automatically updated with where it left off. Isnt that accomplishing the same thing as a checkpoint? This is my command line:

sr1sieve-x86-windows.exe -P200e12 -i27_140Te0.txt -o27_140Te0.txt -ff27_199T-200T.txt -v

Like I said, I am fairly new at this, so if I am missing something obvious, let me know. If I can get this working like I want, I am anxious to reserve a range and get crunching.
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Message 13865 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009 | 18:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 13864.
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I am just starting to dabble in this. I have very carefully followed the instructions on how to work around the non-checkpoint issue. I read in another post that if you stop the run, you would need check the log and insert the last value in the header of the sieve. I set up a little test run, and when I stop the sr1 app, it seems that the header for the sieve file is automatically updated with where it left off. Isnt that accomplishing the same thing as a checkpoint? This is my command line:

sr1sieve-x86-windows.exe -P200e12 -i27_140Te0.txt -o27_140Te0.txt -ff27_199T-200T.txt -v

Like I said, I am fairly new at this, so if I am missing something obvious, let me know. If I can get this working like I want, I am anxious to reserve a range and get crunching.

You are correct, the work around accomplishes the same thing but with less work. :) Therefore, once you stop sr1sieve, you can start it back up without editing...no need to "check the log and insert the last value in the header". You're good till the end of that range.

However, when you start a new range again, you'll need to edit the sieve file to the start of the new range. And then you're good again till the end of the range.
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Message 14283 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009 | 17:40:43 UTC

Not a very early moment to ask this ;)

Why 27 and 121? I had several "higher maths" classes at university, but for engineers, number theory and primes were not considered very important and basically left out. So I am wondering how 27 and 121 were chosen.

Regards, Peter
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Message 14313 - Posted: 10 Mar 2009 | 15:47:17 UTC - in response to Message 14283.

Not a very early moment to ask this ;)

Why 27 and 121? I had several "higher maths" classes at university, but for engineers, number theory and primes were not considered very important and basically left out. So I am wondering how 27 and 121 were chosen.

Regards, Peter



There wasn't much mathematical rationale behind the choice. www.15k.org was running a coordinated search for all K < 300 in an attempt to get them all searched up to n=1Million. I reserved 121 because it had high weight at the time, and was a palindromic perfect square (looked cool, did not mean too much in terms of primes) to coordinate a distributed effort to 1M.

When we got there, the group decided that they wanted to take it further, and has since found a number of top 50 primes (project: 12121search)

As 121 tests became large and more computationally intensive some of the members wanted faster tests, so we began looking for another K to test. We decided on 27 because it is a low K (low = low FFT = faster LLR tests for equivalent n) and because it is a perfect cube. Because it is a perfect cube, arithmetic factors can be removed (all n divisivble by 3). So it looked like a good place to continue.

As computation power increases, I surmise that all relatively low K ( < 300 and possibly higher) will be searched deeply, it just so happens that 1, 3, 27 and 121 are currently much deeper than most of the others, but you can expect other K to catch up quickly within the next decade.

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Message 14454 - Posted: 18 Mar 2009 | 17:01:30 UTC

OK, thanks for the explanation.

As primes are notoriously unpredictable, I guess "looked cool" is just as good a reason for picking a number as anything else ;)
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Discovered the World's First base 68 Generalized Cullen prime!!!Eliminated 4 conjecture "k"s321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (517,694)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (22,649)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,716,757)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,255,162)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,529,355)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (79,385)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (42,673)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,820)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,641)Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,449,647)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,110,585)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (75,714)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,880)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (42,894)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,365,420)
Message 20911 - Posted: 10 Feb 2010 | 16:00:08 UTC

Does anybody have experience with sr2sieve on i7 CPUs? Our latest toy is a dual-i7, but -t16 is not available. Does HT give a speedup on sr2sieve?
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