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Message 12747 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009 | 15:14:58 UTC
Last modified: 30 Jan 2009 | 17:41:34 UTC

Welcome to the Year of the Ox Challenge

The Ox is the sign of prosperity through fortitude and hard work. It is unswervingly patient, tireless in its work, and capable of enduring any amount of hardship without complaint. (Wikipedia)

Sounds like the members of PrimeGrid in their prime finding pursuit! :)

PrimeGrid's 2009 Challenge Series starts off with a fire cracker bang! Please come join us in the Chinese New Year, the Year of the Ox, for a 5 day (120 hour) Challenge on PrimeGrid's 321 Prime Search (LLR) application.

To participate in the Challenge, please select only the 321 Prime Search (LLR) project in your PrimeGrid preferences section. The challenge will begin 26 January 2009 18:00 UTC and end 31 January 2009 18:00 UTC. Application builds are available for Linux 32 bit and Windows 32 bit. These applications will be sent to 64 bit clients. As with all LLR application projects, there is no advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit.

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer. WU's will take ~7-9 hours on fast/newer computers and 12+ hours on slower/older computers. If your computer is highly overclocked, please consider "stress testing" it. Sieving is an excellent alternative for computers that are not able to LLR. :)

Please, please, please make sure your machines are up to the task.

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Scoring Information

Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 26 January 2009 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE 31 January 2009 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit. We will use the "prime score" method which is based on the n value (k*b^n-1) to score the challenge. The only difference is that the primary and double checker of a WU will receive the same score.

Therefore, each completed WU will earn a unique score based on its n value. The higher the n, the higher the score. This is different than BOINC cobblestones! A quorum of 2 is NOT needed to award Challenge score. Therefore, each returned result will earn a Challenge score. Please note that if the result is eventually declared invalid, the score will be removed.

For details on how the score is calculated, please see this thread.

About 321 Prime Search

321 Prime Search is a continuation of Paul Underwood's 321 Search (see below) which looked for primes of the form 3*2^n-1. PrimeGrid has added the +1 form and will eventually be searching for primes beyond the extended n=5M (M=mega, 10^6) goal.

Currently, PrimeGrid is testing only 3*2^n+1 for n<5M (as of this post about n=4.45M). Once all n are completed below 5M, both -1 and +1 forms will be combined and the search will be extended up to n=25M.

Primes known for 3*2^n+1 occur at the following n:

1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 12, 18, 30, 36, 41, 66, 189, 201, 209, 276, 353, 408, 438, 534, 2208, 2816, 3168, 3189, 3912, 20909, 34350, 42294, 42665, 44685, 48150, 54792, 55182, 59973, 80190, 157169, 213321, 303093, 362765, 382449, 709968, 801978, 916773, 1832496, 2145353, 2478785

We are hoping for 1-2 more primes before n=5M. The next find will be a Mega Prime. :)

What is LLR?

The Lucas-Lehmer-Riesel (LLR) test is a primality test for numbers of the form N = k*2^n - 1, with 2^n > k. Also, LLR is a program developed by Jean Penne that can run the LLR-tests. It includes the Proth test to perform +1 tests and PRP to test non base 2 numbers. See also:


(Edouard Lucas: 1842-1891, Derrick H. Lehmer: 1905-1991, Hans Riesel: born 1929).

About 321 Search

321 Search began in February 2003 from a post by Paul Underwood seeking help from interested parties in a prime search attempt of the form 3*2^n-1. The initial goal was to build upon the completed work at Proth Search and extend the list of known primes to an exponent of 1 million (n=1M). That was quickly achieved so they advanced their goal to finding a mega prime for which they sieved up to n=5M.

As seen on PrimeGrid's front page, that goal was achieved on 23 Mar 2008, 7:57:28 UTC, when Dylan Bennett of Canada returned a positive result for n=4235414 (3*2^4235414-1). official announcement | decimal representation

During the Drive for Five Challenge, the goal of reaching n=5M was almost achieved. As of 14 July 2008, all but one range has been completed. (the one range is in the manual reservations...PG has completed all of its ranges)

Primes known for 3*2^n-1 occur at the following n:

1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 11, 18, 34, 38, 43, 55, 64, 76, 94, 103, 143, 206, 216, 306, 324, 391, 458, 470, 827, 1274, 3276, 4204, 5134, 7559, 12676, 14898, 18123, 18819, 25690, 26459, 41628, 51387, 71783, 80330, 85687, 88171, 97063, 123630, 155930, 164987, 234760, 414840, 584995, 702038, 727699, 992700, 1201046, 1232255, 2312734, 3136255, 4235414
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Message 12750 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009 | 19:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 12747.

Sounds like fun.~
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Message 12751 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009 | 19:23:53 UTC

I thought we are in the so called "Darwin's Year"... ;)

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Message 12752 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009 | 19:24:11 UTC

Count me in :-)
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Message 12756 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009 | 19:54:22 UTC

Awesome! another fun challenge to participate in, count me in :)
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Message 12759 - Posted: 15 Jan 2009 | 2:45:11 UTC
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Considering this.....
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Message 12764 - Posted: 15 Jan 2009 | 14:34:17 UTC

please tell what version of LLR primegrid use?

latest version of llr is 3.7.1c
but primegrid_llr_5.09_windows_intelx86.exe.orig is 5.09.
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Message 12775 - Posted: 16 Jan 2009 | 1:20:23 UTC - in response to Message 12764.

I've been feeling about on this challenge, and there seems to be some resistance due to the reletively low credit given for 32 bit programs here.

I know I'm all in, but I'm doubting the same response from others as the last challenge had.
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Message 12779 - Posted: 16 Jan 2009 | 1:54:17 UTC - in response to Message 12775.

What do you mean exactly Skligmund? Can you elaborate a little more my friend.
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Message 12787 - Posted: 16 Jan 2009 | 6:07:49 UTC - in response to Message 12775.

I've been feeling about on this challenge, and there seems to be some resistance due to the reletively low credit given for 32 bit programs here.

I know I'm all in, but I'm doubting the same response from others as the last challenge had.

There's another reason why this challenge won't get the same response as the last challenges: Many members of different teams will be participating in the Charity Crunching at POEM@HOME (initiated by L'Alliance Francophone and SETI.Germany, other teams are invited as well), so I don't expect the two top teams of 2008 to be that strong in this challenge. :|
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Message 12792 - Posted: 16 Jan 2009 | 11:24:34 UTC

Let me activate my new extraterristial 16-Core Phenom ... *<;)

But: Does this 321 App really work on Linux64 or should I install 32-bit-code-expansions before or switch to old-death Win32? Im not sure Win32 could handle the amount of my RAM at all. :-/

happy to crunch on - and PG rules,
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Message 12794 - Posted: 16 Jan 2009 | 12:37:40 UTC - in response to Message 12792.

But: Does this 321 App really work on Linux64 or should I install 32-bit-code-expansions before or switch to old-death Win32? Im not sure Win32 could handle the amount of my RAM at all. :-/

Your best option is to try :) You can test with any LLR application, and if you want to run just a short test, try PPS LLR.
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Message 12796 - Posted: 16 Jan 2009 | 14:19:32 UTC - in response to Message 12794.

But: Does this 321 App really work on Linux64 or should I install 32-bit-code-expansions before or switch to old-death Win32? Im not sure Win32 could handle the amount of my RAM at all. :-/

Your best option is to try :) You can test with any LLR application, and if you want to run just a short test, try PPS LLR.


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Message 12821 - Posted: 17 Jan 2009 | 16:39:43 UTC

As much as I love primegrid challenges (especially ones that happen to fall on my birthday), I see another potential issue arising:

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The 321's take a fair bit of time to complete, so receiving absolutely no credit for them really hurts. :(
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Message 12822 - Posted: 17 Jan 2009 | 16:50:46 UTC

Such WUs will be dealt with manually.
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Message 12823 - Posted: 17 Jan 2009 | 19:12:41 UTC - in response to Message 12822.

I also got one

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Message 12972 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009 | 13:47:56 UTC
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point's granted in "The Year of the Ox Challenge"
will add point's to point's in 2008 Challenge Series
or it be a new Score ?
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Message 12973 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009 | 16:25:44 UTC

I would hope it would be a new score as this is the first challenge of 2009 so a new year to compete right?
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Message 12974 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009 | 21:16:00 UTC

Check this: http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/

On the top of each table you can see "2008 Challenge Series"
So it will be new scoring for 2009. Welcome to the Year of the Ox!

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Message 12975 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009 | 22:06:08 UTC
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and why "of the Ox!" not 2009 ????
if it what i sink that "Ox" will
continue the 2008 Challenge
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Message 12976 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009 | 22:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 12972.

2008 Challenge Series has been concluded with the Winter Solstice Challenge (see http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1155). So there will be a new ranking.
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Message 12988 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 16:25:25 UTC

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer.


I decided to run up some PPS and TPS LLR's through the night to get the machines warmed up for the challenge, and to make sure the WU's in queue were small enough that the hosts wouldn't get stuck with a lot of old work once the challenge started.

Woke up this morning and one of the quads was in thermal shutdown..

http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=95920

Its run times were long, and it threw a bunch of errors before giving it up..

processor hit 109C according to the external temp monitor..

It's looking pretty hopeless right now, might get it back up later with a spare dual core chip in it.

R.I.P. my second Boinc victim..



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Message 12990 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 17:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 12988.

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer.


I decided to run up some PPS and TPS LLR's through the night to get the machines warmed up for the challenge, and to make sure the WU's in queue were small enough that the hosts wouldn't get stuck with a lot of old work once the challenge started.

Woke up this morning and one of the quads was in thermal shutdown..

http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=95920

Its run times were long, and it threw a bunch of errors before giving it up..

processor hit 109C according to the external temp monitor..

It's looking pretty hopeless right now, might get it back up later with a spare dual core chip in it.

R.I.P. my second Boinc victim..




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And, at the moment, side panels off, fan set up and counting down the clock. . .

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Message 12992 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 18:36:33 UTC - in response to Message 12990.

I am comming for mi first challenge, keep me some wu...lol

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Message 12993 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 19:28:03 UTC - in response to Message 12992.

Just wondering, how often do these wu's checkpoint. 1:20:00 in and the wu's are still showing no progress. I haven't done one of those longer llr's in quite some time (i think since that Woodall challenge), but I thought I remember seeing the progress bar show progress. I know the PPS llr's do not show progress, so maybe these don't either. In case it matters, I use Ubuntu 64bit, BM v.6.2.12.
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Message 12994 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 19:35:03 UTC

Under Windows, progress is shown.
Under Linux, the 321 WUs do checkpoint, but boincmgr doesn't show progress - same as with the PPS WUs.
I'm afraid you'll just have to wait for them to complete, which is a pain if you want to run a cache which is less than the estimated runtime for these WUs - boincmgr won't fetch more WUs until they complete, which can lead to unproductive time. Workaround is to raise your cache time to longer than than the estimated time to completion.

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Message 12995 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 20:07:17 UTC - in response to Message 12994.

Under Windows, progress is shown.
Under Linux, the 321 WUs do checkpoint, but boincmgr doesn't show progress - same as with the PPS WUs.
I'm afraid you'll just have to wait for them to complete, which is a pain if you want to run a cache which is less than the estimated runtime for these WUs - boincmgr won't fetch more WUs until they complete, which can lead to unproductive time. Workaround is to raise your cache time to longer than than the estimated time to completion.

Ah, I see. In that case I have 3 options:
1. Reboot into XP. I hate to do that because of more background tasks using CPU cycles in Win.
2. Take your advice, which I am a little afraid will cause me to get more than I want once BM realizes they only take a third the time it previously thought. I very highly doubt the server will go down this challenge (knocks on wood), and for some strange reason I just hate keeping a cache more than a few minutes.
3. Deal with losing maybe 5 seconds of time while it gets new work. The sum of those seconds would probably be less than the time it takes to do option 1.

I know this much, I'm only in this challenge to help team BoincStats, and I cant wait to go back to looking for the first AP26. I am SO gonna find it ;)
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Message 12996 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 20:12:14 UTC

I take option 3 as well - the only time it's bitten me in the past is when there were server troubles many challenges ago, and I ended up getting deferred for 24 hours. Shouldn't be an issue since the new server and this challenge has long-ish WUs which helps even more.
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Message 12998 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 21:45:49 UTC - in response to Message 12995.

I know this much, I'm only in this challenge to help team BoincStats


And we all appreciate the help :)

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Message 13001 - Posted: 26 Jan 2009 | 23:39:33 UTC

Woo Hoo!!!

First on the leader board!!!!



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Message 13003 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 0:17:07 UTC - in response to Message 13001.

Woo Hoo!!!

First on the leader board!!!!

Yes, Congratulations!!! You were the first to return a result by about 15 minutes!

Best of Luck for the rest of the Challenge.

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Message 13004 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 0:42:23 UTC - in response to Message 13001.
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Woo Hoo!!!

First on the leader board!!!!



Hi Labbie! (Waves)
You slipped to second place. :(
But don't feel bad, it'll be another hour or so before Q-Baby even finishes her first four.
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Message 13006 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 0:49:09 UTC - in response to Message 13004.

Woo Hoo!!!

First on the leader board!!!!



Hi Labbie! (Waves)
You slipped to second place. :(
But don't feel bad, it'll be another hour or so before Q-Baby even finishes her first four.


Hiya Kenzie!!!

I'm not surprised I slipped to second (and I'm sure I will slip down more), as I only have two computers on the challenge, but they're each on their second set now.

But I got the first returns!!!



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Message 13007 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 1:22:35 UTC

I just noticed that all the wu I downloaded a few seconds after 18:00 UTC (and after the main page said it was time to start) say they were downloaded a few seconds BEFORE 18:00, and so those completed are not giving me or my team points toward the challenge. Does this mean I ahve to abort all those that remain (or even reset the project) and restart the project with fresh downloads in order for my work to be considered a valid part of the challenge?

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I just noticed that all the wu I downloaded a few seconds after 18:00 UTC (and after the main page said it was time to start) say they were downloaded a few seconds BEFORE 18:00, and so those completed are not giving me or my team points toward the challenge. Does this mean I ahve to abort all those that remain (or even reset the project) and restart the project with fresh downloads in order for my work to be considered a valid part of the challenge?


Aborting or resetting would ensure your WUs being part of the challenge.

The countdown clock was about 30 seconds fast compared to my atomic clock.
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Message 13010 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 1:34:04 UTC

It's a shame the servers could not synch with each other to know that once you are told the project started, all downloaded work would be part of the project. I feel like I Wasted about 8 hours of work time, especially given that the wu for this project give such low credits (and now I have learned to also be a credit junkie :) ).

Oh well, I reset the project on both machines that are running it, and should now be running fine (albeit at an uncomfortably low RAC).

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Message 13013 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 1:53:53 UTC - in response to Message 13007.
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I just noticed that all the wu I downloaded a few seconds after 18:00 UTC (and after the main page said it was time to start) say they were downloaded a few seconds BEFORE 18:00, and so those completed are not giving me or my team points toward the challenge.

Sorry about that...though I'm sure that provides little consolation to you. :(

There is a UTC time provided in the upper menu right under "Tasks in Progress". This provides the correct time. Unfortunately, the countdown timer uses the host's computer time. I just looked at mine and the countdown time is about 6 seconds slower than UTC.

Looking at your download times, it appears that your computer is about 15 seconds faster than the UTC time. Therefore, the countdown clock would have reached 00:00 about 15 seconds before UTC time reached 18:00.

The countdown timer is there for general reference. It's always best to watch the UTC time, especially when looking at seconds.

I hope this doesn't discourage you from continuing. Best of Luck...maybe it will pay off with a 321 Prime find??? :)
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Message 13014 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 1:56:42 UTC - in response to Message 13010.

It's a shame the servers could not synch with each other to know that once you are told the project started, all downloaded work would be part of the project. I feel like I Wasted about 8 hours of work time, especially given that the wu for this project give such low credits (and now I have learned to also be a credit junkie :) ).

Oh well, I reset the project on both machines that are running it, and should now be running fine (albeit at an uncomfortably low RAC).


The thing to remember is that us lowly peons never really count in the challenges (though your team, CC, often does well for itself, and both you and Labbie are contributing to that!)

The idea of a challenge is to give a sense of community and excitement (and to get a lot of crunching done in a short time.) All of which we all are a part of.

BTW: my first four just reported: didn’t crack the top 9, tho. Definitely going to have to get some extra cooling and boost Q-Baby clock a little before the next one. LOL.
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Message 13015 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 2:30:24 UTC

I just use my own UTC reference rather than using the countdown, and the WUs are so long, I doubt that those first few seconds are worth the risk. It shouldn't be hard to make the countdown indirectly refer to UTC by syncing the host via NTP (which is a very good idea anyway).
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Message 13016 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 2:59:27 UTC

Has the host tasks list been disabled? I have several machines showing that they have no active work on the tasks list when they actually have work. For example, the machine I am typing from shows no active work but has two 321 units going strong???






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Message 13017 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 3:18:38 UTC - in response to Message 13016.

The tasks just aren't listed in order. You have to go back several pages to find them. Here's some of the active tasks for two of your computers:

http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=55791&offset=800
http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=39910&offset=200
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Message 13026 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 10:14:08 UTC

*hmmm* My Opteron Servers (linux) dont like 321-WUs. Blackscreen after 5 minutes but coretemperature is "normal" (no overheating [its quite impossible to overheat Tyan-boards and normaly its impossible to produce errors with reg. ECC ram ... but it wont work]).
So well, all other consumerware (Quads/Duo/Vista/Linux64) crunch-on without any bugs. Phenom-16 cant be delivered atm ;-/
Its winter here in the north of germany, radiators are off because the cores heat my office to a tropical ile. Now I need some banana-split from the freezer. ;-))
I like this contests. :)

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Available: 321 Prime Search (LLR) 94
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Message 13028 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 11:24:55 UTC - in response to Message 13027.

Available: 321 Prime Search (LLR) 94
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The queue is maintained at around 100, no need to worry.
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Message 13029 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 11:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 13026.

(sorry for my extraterristial english - Im not a native speaker).


Hey-- don't apoligise your english is OK--- english has many versions-- If I were to converse in Australian English then not many would understand me either

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Message 13032 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 12:45:30 UTC

I am also crunching for this challenge and I do as much as I can with my Quad and my increadibly slow Laptop (the slowest Core Duo ever), but it is hard to convince my ESL (Electronic Sports League) mates to participate here, especially with the Charity Challenge in parallel. I really don't know what the ESL is focussing on at the moment.

Why is the estimated runtime for all the different subprojects so much higher than the actual runtime?
PPS LLR estimated 10 min, finished in 5 min
Woodall estimated 90 hours, finished around 30 hours
321 LLR estimated 20 hours, finished in 6,5 hours
321 LLR on my Laptop: estimated 27 hours, now 15 hours still running, no progress (Linux)

The estimated time decreases a little bit on finishing WUs faster, but still a factor of 2-3 remains.

Talking about heat problems: I am running my Quad-Machine (Q9450, not overclocked, P965 chipset which smoothy manages 1333 FSB) for several months nonstop at full CPU load, also playing games with a decent graphics card in the evenings. The PPS LLR WUs produce errors at a rate of 1 out of 30, but all other WUs (including the long-time runs) work fine. While Quad-LLRing the CPU touches 70°C with a silent 12cm CPU fan and a 25cm case fan, power supply with passive cooling. The Intel structure works extremely stable.

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Message 13034 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 12:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 13029.

(sorry for my extraterristial english - Im not a native speaker).


Hey-- don't apoligise your english is OK--- english has many versions-- If I were to converse in Australian English then not many would understand me either

Sorry DoEs but could you repeat that in English :)

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Message 13035 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 13:23:53 UTC - in response to Message 13034.

Sorry DoEs but could you repeat that in English :)


G'day Tim-- I was gunna hook into a bit of tucker but when I spied ya post I though I betta give yez the drum on whats happening--- seems a lotta these nongs are sh**in em' selves about whats happinin at PG--- Boxes cooking etc -- ya catch me drift???--- Not rocket science --- giv'em a scrub-- get a bit a' wind across em-- she's apples---

(apologies to those who havn't got a clue what I am talking about)

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Message 13039 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 14:27:42 UTC - in response to Message 13032.

Why is the estimated runtime for all the different subprojects so much higher than the actual runtime?
PPS LLR estimated 10 min, finished in 5 min
Woodall estimated 90 hours, finished around 30 hours
321 LLR estimated 20 hours, finished in 6,5 hours
321 LLR on my Laptop: estimated 27 hours, now 15 hours still running, no progress (Linux)

The estimated time decreases a little bit on finishing WUs faster, but still a factor of 2-3 remains.

In short, BOINC does a bad job of initial estimation. Once it gets a few WU's under its belt, the estimation gets better.

There was a discussion a while back on this topic. You can see it here: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1116

Note: LLR app for Linux does not have estimation at this time.
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Message 13041 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 14:51:32 UTC - in response to Message 13035.
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Sorry DoEs but could you repeat that in English :)


G'day Tim-- I was gunna hook into a bit of tucker but when I spied ya post I though I betta give yez the drum on whats happening--- seems a lotta these nongs are sh**in em' selves about whats happinin at PG--- Boxes cooking etc -- ya catch me drift???--- Not rocket science --- giv'em a scrub-- get a bit a' wind across em-- she's apples---

(apologies to those who havn't got a clue what I am talking about)

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Message 13045 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 15:47:27 UTC

;-)) So my english is not so bad as long Im understandable. ;)
The Opterons still dont like to crunch. Its not a problem of Linux because they crunched in 64bit-contests before. Its not a problem of overheating because they are 24/7-fullload-Serverboards with jetsound-cooling. (big pain to my ears) Sure no problem of ECC, too. So I dont know at all whats the problem. But its a pitty to crunch with 20 cores (5x4 Thunder Tyans) less ;-/ Well, MY problem, not yours.

Next contest (I promise now!) a Phenom-16 will do their job. That should be a brutal numbercruncher [and works, I hope] :)

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Message 13050 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 19:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 13045.

;-)) So my english is not so bad as long Im understandable. ;)
The Opterons still dont like to crunch. Its not a problem of Linux because they crunched in 64bit-contests before. Its not a problem of overheating because they are 24/7-fullload-Serverboards with jetsound-cooling. (big pain to my ears) Sure no problem of ECC, too. So I dont know at all whats the problem. But its a pitty to crunch with 20 cores (5x4 Thunder Tyans) less ;-/ Well, MY problem, not yours.

Next contest (I promise now!) a Phenom-16 will do their job. That should be a brutal numbercruncher [and works, I hope] :)

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How much banks of how much available banks are equiped with modules of what chip-count?
DDR2-ECC Reg DIMMs only take around 4-7 Watt compared to the FB-DIMM crap with 10-14 Watt but they lack the necessary temperature diode the FB-DIMMs do provide as well as the enhanced ECC.
My Xeon is also throwing some memory warnings in dmesg since the FB-DIMM in the first slot runs at ~93°C, but i let it be, with ECC Reg i would be a bit more sceptical. This problem with RAM overheating was first encountered by me during last years WoodallLLR-Challenge, Sieving and ppsLLR works fine because these are either not that heat producing or shorter in runtime.

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Message 13052 - Posted: 27 Jan 2009 | 22:25:52 UTC
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hi,

its normal, that computation of 321 Prime Search (LLR) has spent more than 15 hours without any conclusion (progres 0%), but ETA was 6:30, which is always raised to real time of computation?

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Message 13059 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 5:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 13052.

hi,

its normal, that computation of 321 Prime Search (LLR) has spent more than 15 hours without any conclusion (progres 0%), but ETA was 6:30, which is always raised to real time of computation?

There's no progress reporting for the Linux build of LLR. Therefore, what you are experiencing is "normal".
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Message 13063 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 6:29:34 UTC - in response to Message 13059.

I feel your pain daniel, my slow linux box is at 17hr cpu time with no progress. I know it's crunching but not knowing how far through the wu it's at can be a lil frustrating.
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i think, that real computation time is time, which is predicted (ETA) +- about 2h... my first task finished over 19hrs and for me it is not slow machine :) (P4 2.8GHz). In first message "Welcome to the Year of the Ox Challenge" John you typed ...WU's will take ~7-9 hours on fast/newer computers and 12+ hours on slower/older computers... But OK, if in linux is still progres bar in 0, ok :) nice day. daniel

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Message 13067 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 9:31:07 UTC - in response to Message 13063.

My experience with crunching 321 LLR on my linux box is worse.
I only run the box for a few hours each day - dont' ask!
Started the challenge, got 4 WUs and away we go.

After a few hours I close down BOINC manager and shut off the box.
Next day when I restart I find that the WUs are restarted with processing time so far set to 0. Great. So I will never complete those WUs.
Aborted the WUs and changed back to PPS Sieve/AP26.

I'll contribute to the next challenge if it's WUs take less than 3 hours to complete.

It's a shame I couldn't participate (in my small way) to this one.

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Message 13068 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 9:31:52 UTC - in response to Message 13066.

i think, that real computation time is time, which is predicted (ETA) +- about 2h... my first task finished over 19hrs and for me it is not slow machine :) (P4 2.8GHz). In first message "Welcome to the Year of the Ox Challenge" John you typed ...WU's will take ~7-9 hours on fast/newer computers and 12+ hours on slower/older computers... But OK, if in linux is still progres bar in 0, ok :) nice day. daniel

On my 2.1GHz Quad I got WU's of different lengths:
30% about 16h20m
70% about 10h
So this is not what John said. Perhaps John can explain why the WU's are different in length on the same machine.

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So this is not what John said. Perhaps John can explain why the WU's are different in length on the same machine.


and he might also be able to explain why credits granted are varying so much:


22,250.61 143.72 226.41
22,316.91 144.15 178.22
22,566.89 145.76 115.91
22,676.21 146.47 165.95

all crunched on the same Q9450.. :((

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Message 13070 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 10:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 13068.

i think, that real computation time is time, which is predicted (ETA) +- about 2h... my first task finished over 19hrs and for me it is not slow machine :) (P4 2.8GHz). In first message "Welcome to the Year of the Ox Challenge" John you typed ...WU's will take ~7-9 hours on fast/newer computers and 12+ hours on slower/older computers... But OK, if in linux is still progres bar in 0, ok :) nice day. daniel

On my 2.1GHz Quad I got WU's of different lengths:
30% about 16h20m
70% about 10h
So this is not what John said. Perhaps John can explain why the WU's are different in length on the same machine.



We are working in the range n=4.5M-5M in the higer n (4,9M-5M) we have i bigger FFT size that make the big timejump.

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Message 13072 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 11:50:48 UTC - in response to Message 13066.

i think, that real computation time is time, which is predicted (ETA) +- about 2h... my first task finished over 19hrs and for me it is not slow machine :) (P4 2.8GHz). In first message "Welcome to the Year of the Ox Challenge" John you typed ...WU's will take ~7-9 hours on fast/newer computers and 12+ hours on slower/older computers... But OK, if in linux is still progres bar in 0, ok :) nice day. daniel


Danniel-- My friend-- I would have to say that a P4 2.8G is not exactly a fast machine by todays standards-- I know cause I have 3 of them-- 2 x P4 @ 3.0G and 1 @ 3.2G best result I have had on 321 is around 18Hrs--- Duo cores will do a lot better (around 8Hrs)--- I'm not part of this challenge but these are the times when I last did 321 (Dec 08)--- John would be quoting WU times from around this period I think--- An FFT range change will screw with these times making them longer--- I've watched the message boards and seen a lot of complaints--- I think we need to give the guys at PG a bit of slack---- They are trying to give us crunchers their best information to hand---- No one can predict accurate completion times--- I have a host that would probably take 7 days to do a 321 WU--- Boinc doesn't even know what it is-- probably a P2 600M I think---
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Panic Mode On

The number off available tasks (321 Prime Search (LLR)) is down to 90


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Don't worry: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1185&nowrap=true#13028
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Message 13075 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 12:30:42 UTC - in response to Message 13073.

Panic Mode On

The number off available tasks (321 Prime Search (LLR)) is down to 90


Panic Mode Off?


No need to panic ! You only see whats in the queue
and that will remain at ~100.

There is ~15000 more in Database right now and and 17000 not yet imorted to DB. And if you need more i have 1,6M more in the sievefile :))

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Message 13076 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 12:34:39 UTC

Are AMD cpu's at a disadvantage in 321??

I had anticipated slightly more performance from my farm.
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No need to panic ! You only see whats in the queue
and that will remain at ~100.

There is ~15000 more in Database right now and and 17000 not yet imported to DB. And if you need more i have 1,6M more in the sievefile :))

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So that is Wednesday sorted out. But what about Thursday? :)

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Message 13078 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 13:15:36 UTC

Thanks to "pschoefer" and "lennart SM5YMT"

"WilliamWallace" wrote:
Are AMD cpu's at a disadvantage in 321??


Looks like 321 is very cache-sensitive.

C2D E6400@2,3 GHz, L2 Cache 2MB: "short" WU ~ 30.000 sec, "long" WU ~ 50.000 sec

X2-5000@2,6 GHz, L2 Cache 1MB: "short" WU ~ 42.000 sec, "long" WU ~ 71.000 sec


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Message 13079 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 13:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 13078.

Thanks to "pschoefer" and "lennart SM5YMT"

"WilliamWallace" wrote:
Are AMD cpu's at a disadvantage in 321??


Looks like 321 is very cache-sensitive.

C2D E6400@2,3 GHz, L2 Cache 2MB: "short" WU ~ 30.000 sec, "long" WU ~ 50.000 sec

X2-5000@2,6 GHz, L2 Cache 1MB: "short" WU ~ 42.000 sec, "long" WU ~ 71.000 sec




Thanks,

I guess that I should be crunching something else as the bulk of my farm are 3800 X2 and 165 Opterons.
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Message 13080 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 13:21:33 UTC - in response to Message 13076.

Are AMD cpu's at a disadvantage in 321??

I had anticipated slightly more performance from my farm.


I didn't run any AMD in this challenge but experienced that AMD are a bit at disadvantage if it comes to sieving but is a bit better when llr-ing. May vary between models.

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it is nice doing challenges. what and when will be next?

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Message 13082 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 13:44:39 UTC - in response to Message 13077.


So that is Wednesday sorted out. But what about Thursday? :)


Me tink this counsie bloe England no proper savvie PG--- Dis Wendsy feller -- eh gon eh?-- Dis Thusdy he come-- youpla PG savvie propa deadly--- Em thursdy youpla PG makim counsie bloe England savvie eh???
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Message 13084 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 17:35:42 UTC

Perhaps John can explain why the WU's are different in length on the same machine.

First, I made a pretty big oversight. Yes, the leading edge of the search has entered a new FFT length. Therefore, expect test times to increase by about 25%. So to update the WU times for the new FFT length, ~9-11 hours on faster/newer computers and 15+ hours on slower/older computers.

Are AMD cpu's at a disadvantage in 321??

Historically, Intel dominated AMD when it came to Floating point speed. This condition survives up to today but diminishes greatly with the AMD Phenom. The Phenom actually competes very well with the latest Intel CPUs when it comes to primality testing and sieving.

In the past, a good "rule of thumb" was to put your Intel machines on primality testing and your AMD machines on sieving. The reason for this was that primality testing programs (in our case, LLR) relied heavily on floating point operations while the old sieve programs did not. However, today, even the sieving programs (in our case, sr2sieve) make more use of the floating point speed. Therefore, Intel has the advantage in both primality testing and sieving with the Phenom giving them a good run for their money. :)

One big difference between "old school" sieving and today's sieving is the advantage of 64 bit computing. This by far is one of the biggest improvements that sieves have seen. Using a 64 bit sieve is a much better way to make use of all those Athlon64's. :) Unfortunately, many Athlon64's operate with their "handbrakes" on (running 32 bit OS). That's where Wubi comes in...see the very bottom of this POST for more information.

In summary, Intel and AMD Phenom will perform the best in LLRing and sieving. Among AMD CPU's, configuration will determine whether it does better LLRing or sieving. Additionally for the sieves, although there's only one right now, AMD's performance varies based on the sieve...i.e. gcwsieve vs. sr2sieve.

Finally, there's AP26. Intel and AMD seem to be very close when it comes to 64 bit. We'll know more about 32 bit when the application is released.

Looks like 321 is very cache-sensitive.

From the GIMPS site, LLR uses "floating point FFTs written in highly pipelined, cache friendly assembly language" so I'm not sure how much cache plays a role in those speed differences.

For anyone wanting to see some nice benchmarks, GIMPS has a chart where you can at least compare your CPU to others. It can be accessed here:

http://www.mersenne.org/report_benchmarks/

Sometimes that page is hard to access. You can also take a look at the cached page from Google.

and he might also be able to explain why credits granted are varying so much:

For LLR apps, your baseline credit will be about the same across all LLR projects (short times to long times). Here, WU's need verification...therefore, there's a double checker (wing man) to each WU. Because credit is averaged between the two WU's, your actual credit will be influenced based off of the wing man. Therefore, that explains the varying credit.

it is nice doing challenges. what and when will be next?

See the Challenge Series page.
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and he might also be able to explain why credits granted are varying so much:

For LLR apps, your baseline credit will be about the same across all LLR projects (short times to long times). Here, WU's need verification...therefore, there's a double checker (wing man) to each WU. Because credit is averaged between the two WU's, your actual credit will be influenced based off of the wing man. Therefore, that explains the varying credit.


so you are saying it's up to me to weed out those WUs where i got a low-claiming wingman in order not to be penalized by him?

this is silly...

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and he might also be able to explain why credits granted are varying so much:

For LLR apps, your baseline credit will be about the same across all LLR projects (short times to long times). Here, WU's need verification...therefore, there's a double checker (wing man) to each WU. Because credit is averaged between the two WU's, your actual credit will be influenced based off of the wing man. Therefore, that explains the varying credit.

so you are saying it's up to me to weed out those WUs where i got a low-claiming wingman in order not to be penalized by him?

this is silly...

I presume you'll want to keep the WU's where the wing man earns more. :)

For two years now, the "averaged" WU crediting has been the same for all LLR projects. I'm not sure why this Challenge is any different than any other LLR Challenge or LLR project.
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I presume you'll want to keep the WU's where the wing man earns more. :)


wan't an example?

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=56261408

one host is claiming average, the other claims way too low and drags the other one way down.

For two years now, the "averaged" WU crediting has been the same for all LLR projects. I'm not sure why this Challenge is any different than any other LLR Challenge or LLR project.


i have not seen such a big effect in this setup until now.


and there is another problem with some linux-hosts reporting false runtimes which lead to the same effect:

http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=91220

NOT funny..

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I presume you'll want to keep the WU's where the wing man earns more. :)


wan't an example?

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=56261408

one host is claiming average, the other claims way too low and drags the other one way down.

For two years now, the "averaged" WU crediting has been the same for all LLR projects. I'm not sure why this Challenge is any different than any other LLR Challenge or LLR project.


i have not seen such a big effect in this setup until now.


and there is another problem with some linux-hosts reporting false runtimes which lead to the same effect:

http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=91220

NOT funny..



The host in question is one of mine and that is the actual run time. Boinc 5.10.45, ubuntu 8.04 and quad core intel 6600running a clock speed of 3.0 with 2gb ram. Is there something wrong with the box?? I thought it was just a long work unit. I have several boxes taking 12+ hours for a unit. Is this wrong?? They are valid it seems??
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The host in question is one of mine and that is the actual run time. Boinc 5.10.45, ubuntu 8.04 and quad core intel 6600running a clock speed of 3.0 with 2gb ram. Is there something wrong with the box?? I thought it was just a long work unit. I have several boxes taking 12+ hours for a unit. Is this wrong?? They are valid it seems??


no offense!

you got me wrong - it's the very short ones - your 6600 is probably not more than 2 times faster than my Q9450:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=56229945

where those restarted ones probably not accumulating runtimes?

we both are loosing..

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The host in question is one of mine and that is the actual run time. Boinc 5.10.45, ubuntu 8.04 and quad core intel 6600running a clock speed of 3.0 with 2gb ram. Is there something wrong with the box?? I thought it was just a long work unit. I have several boxes taking 12+ hours for a unit. Is this wrong?? They are valid it seems??


no offense!

you got me wrong - it's the very short ones - your 6600 is probably not more than 2 times faster than my Q9450:

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=56229945

where those restarted ones probably not accumulating runtimes?

we both are loosing..


I thought that I was getting creamed by points also. I just thought it was the way it was????

I have several other boxes that have long units, 91602 has one for 96,000sec.

Take a look and see if you see something that i don't.

I wasn't offended just don't want to cause anyone any problems.
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Message 13091 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 19:12:56 UTC - in response to Message 13090.

I thought that I was getting creamed by points also. I just thought it was the way it was????


then this one was rancid..

I wasn't offended just don't want to cause anyone any problems.


check that host - it reported some results which are showing runtimes way too low. the ones i checked, had a heartbeat-problem and restarted.

since they report low runtimes, they claim too low. up to some point, your wingmen save your ass, but get dragged down for it.

this was little of a problem when WUs where short, but it "improves" more and more.

but probably they will keep telling us that this was fine back then, is fine now and keep sitting on their hands..

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Message 13092 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 19:21:54 UTC - in response to Message 13087.

and there is another problem with some linux-hosts reporting false runtimes which lead to the same effect:

http://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=91220

NOT funny..


This is a side effect of the Linux LLR app not supporting progress reports. Each time the client (or machine) is restarted, there is no record of the CPU time already spent previously, even though the LLR state is checkpointed. Once the client fires up again, it correctly restarts the LLR task and when complete, it underreports in its claimed credit. AFAIK Linux already underclaims compared to windows due to the way the benchmarking works. BTW, this is the same for all LLR WUs - it's just easier to spot with the longer running ones, and the lack of progress reports is more likely to happen.

IMHO, all LLR WUs should score based on ln(decimal-digits) or somesuch - and we'd have a much fairer system, and less whinging during challenges :-)
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Message 13093 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 19:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 13092.
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This is a side effect of the Linux LLR app not supporting progress reports.
So as long as the task is never interrupted(ie, on a dedicated BoincBox), this won't be a problem?

On a somewhat related note, I've noticed most, if not all, of my WUs are claiming less credit than what they are eventually granted.
I'm assuming this means my wingman is pissed at me.
Anything I can do to fix this?
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Message 13094 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 19:38:43 UTC - in response to Message 13092.

This is a side effect of the Linux LLR app not supporting progress reports. Each time the client (or machine) is restarted, there is no record of the CPU time already spent previously, even though the LLR state is checkpointed. Once the client fires up again, it correctly restarts the LLR task and when complete, it underreports in its claimed credit. AFAIK Linux already underclaims compared to windows due to the way the benchmarking works. BTW, this is the same for all LLR WUs - it's just easier to spot with the longer running ones, and the lack of progress reports is more likely to happen.


i know - most likely this is yet another "not a bug but a feature"..

IMHO, all LLR WUs should score based on ln(decimal-digits) or somesuch - and we'd have a much fairer system, and less whinging during challenges :-)


all the lemmings are jumping off the edge - why should i stop?

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On a somewhat related note, I've noticed most, if not all, of my WUs are claiming less credit than what they are eventually granted.
I'm assuming this means my wingman is pissed at me.
Anything I can do to fix this?


you?

did you write that app?

knowing about that problem - would you come up with arguments like "it has allways been like this"?


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On a somewhat related note, I've noticed most, if not all, of my WUs are claiming less credit than what they are eventually granted.
I'm assuming this means my wingman is pissed at me.
Anything I can do to fix this?


you?

did you write that app?

knowing about that problem - would you come up with arguments like "it has allways been like this"?





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Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 26 January 2009 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE 31 January 2009 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit. We will use the "prime score" method which is based on the n value (k*b^n-1) to score the challenge. The only difference is that the primary and double checker of a WU will receive the same score.

Therefore, each completed WU will earn a unique score based on its n value. The higher the n, the higher the score. This is different than BOINC cobblestones! A quorum of 2 is NOT needed to award Challenge score - i.e. no wingman. Therefore, each returned result will earn a Challenge score. Please note that if the result is eventually declared invalid, the score will be removed.

Challenge score is not = Boinc credit !!!

Boinc credit is (user1 claimed credit *1,244 +user2 claimed credit *1,244) /2

There is work ongoing to solve the progress issue on linux.

!!! The challenge points is NOT based on Boinc credit !!!


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Message 13098 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 20:19:32 UTC - in response to Message 13096.

you?

did you write that app?

knowing about that problem - would you come up with arguments like "it has allways been like this"?
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean?

I think we're taking about two different things.
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thanks - i know. but i do not remember talking about challenge points.

There is work ongoing to solve the progress issue on linux.


so you called for a challenge with an app known to be faulty?

avanti dillettani!

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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean?


YOU can do nothing about it.

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Message 13101 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 20:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 13100.

YOU can do nothing about it.
Oh. Well, dang.

I guess I apologize to everybody who is getting less points than they should because my computer is claiming less than it should?

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I am getting the same

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Message 13103 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 20:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 13101.

I guess I apologize to everybody who is getting less points than they should because my computer is claiming less than it should?


why the hack would you have to apologize?

you are not coming up with stories like

"we know we are ripping off some guys, but we take some of the credits their wingmen earned and hand them over to them to make it a fair game"

sounds to me like someone practicing for a career in politics.

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Message 13104 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 20:55:35 UTC - in response to Message 13103.

sounds to me like someone practicing for a career in politics.

I figured that would sound better than
"Screw this project and your pitiful credits for crazy long work units. I'll finish this challenge for the sake of my team (rock on BOINCstats!), but as soon as this challenge is over, I'm outta here."

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Message 13106 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 22:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 13104.

You guys DO know that the LLR program was NOT written by these guys here at PrimeGrid right?

You also know that there are very few (count on one hand?) people who are responsable for this project, and that this isn't their job?

You also know that this is able to run because of DONATIONS? (as opposed to grants or corporate help)

I assume you also know that these guys put a lot of time and effort into a growing project that is still listed as BETA do to the MINOR issues that have been brought up here and the continuing changes of the work scope?

I guess a lot of people cannot appreciate hard work with no monetary gain and have to completely dessimate the project directors by attacking them without thought of the possability that they might just say "screw it, nobody wants it. bye" and shut the whole thing down (I've seen it before).

I just want to say:

Thank you Rytis, John, Lennart (a I missing somebody?) for all the hard work. You continue to improve the project, and I think it is amazing how much you make happen. I am serious when I say that I am glad you do what you do.
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Message 13107 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 23:13:29 UTC - in response to Message 13106.

You guys DO know that the LLR program was NOT written by these guys here at PrimeGrid right?


i know.

I assume you also know that these guys put a lot of time and effort into a growing project that is still listed as BETA do to the MINOR issues that have been brought up here and the continuing changes of the work scope?

I guess a lot of people cannot appreciate hard work with no monetary gain and have to completely dessimate the project directors by attacking them without thought of the possability that they might just say "screw it, nobody wants it. bye" and shut the whole thing down (I've seen it before).


they have decided to call for challenges - so it's their duty to make sure it's running fair. if they knew in advance about the flaws of this subproject, they'd better have told us in advance. personally i simpy would not have used this long LLRs for a challenge until those problems are fixed. telling people that issues are known and worked on does not cure the problems in this challenge.

i would not be here if i thought it wasn't worth it..

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Message 13108 - Posted: 28 Jan 2009 | 23:37:25 UTC - in response to Message 13107.

"they have decided to call for challenges - so it's their duty to make sure it's running fair."

What is unfair about the challenge? The scoring for the challenge seems fairly straightforward and fair to me...

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I guess a lot of people cannot appreciate hard work with no monetary gain

Look man, I'm donating my time, energy, and money for electricity to run this on my computers.

I'm certainly not trying to flame anybody, and because it seems I did a poor job of making a joke with my last post, I apologize.
Really.
Not trying to be a jerk, but I think I came across that way.
My bad.

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;-)) So my english is not so bad as long Im understandable. ;)
The Opterons still dont like to crunch. Its not a problem of Linux because they crunched in 64bit-contests before. Its not a problem of overheating because they are 24/7-fullload-Serverboards with jetsound-cooling. (big pain to my ears) Sure no problem of ECC, too. So I dont know at all whats the problem. But its a pitty to crunch with 20 cores (5x4 Thunder Tyans) less ;-/ Well, MY problem, not yours.

Next contest (I promise now!) a Phenom-16 will do their job. That should be a brutal numbercruncher [and works, I hope] :)

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How much banks of how much available banks are equiped with modules of what chip-count?
DDR2-ECC Reg DIMMs only take around 4-7 Watt compared to the FB-DIMM crap with 10-14 Watt but they lack the necessary temperature diode the FB-DIMMs do provide as well as the enhanced ECC.
My Xeon is also throwing some memory warnings in dmesg since the FB-DIMM in the first slot runs at ~93°C, but i let it be, with ECC Reg i would be a bit more sceptical. This problem with RAM overheating was first encountered by me during last years WoodallLLR-Challenge, Sieving and ppsLLR works fine because these are either not that heat producing or shorter in runtime.


Hi Roadrunner

Its DDR(1)-ECC and not a problem of overheating or powersupply. Atm 2 of 16 banks with all in all 2GB with same speed and manufacturer. The cpus (2 of 4 per board - opteron 2,2Ghz - 4 cpus per board would wreck my ears because of jetcoolers) run on "normal temperature (70°C). I switched in BIOS ECC and Non ECC-Mode. Both modes dont work with 321-WUs. (Blackscreen and hang-up after 5 minutes) Voltage-clocking isnt possible by BIOS. With other WUs and same fittings (64-Bit, last contest) they worked stable without any problems. So they dont like 321. Well, so it is - I have to live with that and Phenom-16 will come ;) [last chance could be a 32-extension on Ubuntu (?) ... or installing Solaris.]
Cosumerware Q6600 on Vista32 I had to slow down from 3,4 Ghz to normal speed in meanwhile after 1 day of contest. Fat towercooler but it became too hot. Second Q6600 on Linux64 runs stable. Best machine (Watts per points) is a T8100 dualcore atm.
All in all its still tropical in my office and sure I will crunch on, till the contests ends or my machines will burn-out ;-))

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Message 13111 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 0:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 13108.

What is unfair about the challenge? The scoring for the challenge seems fairly straightforward and fair to me...


i was never talking about challenge points until now. but ok, you do want to open up another bottle:

if you check the individual rankings, you will find that there is a very close range from 238 to 338 - 4081.29 to 3065.12 points. then there is a big gap to 6376.05 points.

so probably the single score for a result probably is somewhre between 3065.12 and 4081.29 currently.

now what do we make of it, if we hear people talking about some WUs taking as much as twice the time than others on a single host?

but hey, this is starting to get boring - you simply do not want to get it..

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Message 13112 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 1:04:00 UTC - in response to Message 13111.


if you check the individual rankings, you will find that there is a very close range from 238 to 338 - 4081.29 to 3065.12 points. then there is a big gap to 6376.05 points.

so probably the single score for a result probably is somewhre between 3065.12 and 4081.29 currently.

now what do we make of it, if we hear people talking about some WUs taking as much as twice the time than others on a single host?



Well...let's see. If we take John at his word...

First, I made a pretty big oversight. Yes, the leading edge of the search has entered a new FFT length. Therefore, expect test times to increase by about 25%. So to update the WU times for the new FFT length, ~9-11 hours on faster/newer computers and 15+ hours on slower/older computers.


...then I guess we would make of it that those with only the 4081.29 workunit started later in the challenge than those who have completed only a single one for 3065.12.


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Message 13113 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 1:09:30 UTC

The scoring for the challenge is fine. My earlier point was just a wishlist item that the boinc credit should be based on the same system. I'm staying out of the rest of this mostly degenerating thread from now on.
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Message 13114 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 3:15:20 UTC

Everybody CHILL!

@ Pat Hawks

The thing is that sometimes meaning can get lost in translation. I think that what FrankHagen was trying to say that the problem is not with you our your computer, it is a problem buried deep in the software and cannot be fixed at the users end. I think that things got a little confused in language translation and that neither of you intended any offence to the other.

As for everyone else: CHILL!

These challenges are about competition, yes, but really, aren’t they supposed to be a little bit of fun? Why are we here? For the science (one would hope) because BOINC is an addictive hobby (and, oh crap, is it ever that!) and hopefully to have a little fun.

Yes, everyone knows that there are some flaws in the works. Yelling doesn’t help. Temper tantrums don’t help. Calm, rational discussion can help. But please remember, this project operates on a budget so small it would make my Mama blush,. And, as Skigmund said, only a handful of people trying to keep all the wheels spinning.

So CHILL!



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Message 13116 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 4:45:23 UTC - in response to Message 13114.

Everybody CHILL!

Although I do find it a little amusing when every long LLR challenge turns into a street brawl. Seems 3 minute wu's are the only thing that can keep people happy.
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Everybody CHILL!

Although I do find it a little amusing when every long LLR challenge turns into a street brawl. Seems 3 minute wu's are the only thing that can keep people happy.

Interesting how us (relative) newbies tend to see thing clearly.

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Message 13120 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 9:21:51 UTC

Hi John/Lennart,
Are we expecting anyone to find a prime during the challenge?

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Message 13121 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 9:40:06 UTC - in response to Message 13119.
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Too chilly here! It's almost freezing.

@ newbie Pat: apology accepted. Some don't expect a joke in the forum or haven't read the former posts.

Some other issues are open:

1. The linux problem. It is clear now that it is possible that the linux application can report a (very) short runtime not corresponding the real runtime. This has a very negative influence on the credits of the linux cruncher and his/her wing(wo)man. This Linux problem should be repaired. No influence on this challenge because the result itself is OK.

2. The used quorum system is seen as not fair. The highly equipped crunchers or welltrained (OC-ed, Supercooled) machines are pulled down by their wingman. I would say: Open another thread. It has nothing to do with this Challenge thread.

3. The difference in length of the WU's (FFT-issue).
It is not 25% longer, but about 50-60%. So you can run 2 long ones or 3 'normal' ones in the same time. Will you get on average per WU the same challenge points for normal and long WU's or (because of the long run) you get by the used prime score method on average a 50% higher score for them. This method is to complicated for me. I know what a prime is and that they can be used with encryption. That's all.

4. (out of topic) I'm oldfashioned. I don't use PayPal. Rytis do you have a normal bankaccount for donation?

Cheers.

ps It's getting warmer already and apologize my english ;) I'm not a native speaker.

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Message 13122 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 10:31:55 UTC - in response to Message 13121.



Some other issues are open:

1. The linux problem. It is clear now that it is possible that the linux application can report a (very) short runtime not corresponding the real runtime. This has a very negative influence on the credits of the linux cruncher and his/her wing(wo)man. This Linux problem should be repaired. No influence on this challenge because the result itself is OK.

4. (out of topic) I'm oldfashioned. I don't use PayPal. Rytis do you have a normal bankaccount for donation?




Perhaps some of those most vocal in this thread might like to donate some programming time to fix the issues as is happening in the AP26 project--

Here in the land of Oz we are very much into internet banking but PayPal earned itself a bad reputation over here-- I'm also good for a donation to PG if another method is used--

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Message 13125 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 12:10:34 UTC

Any idea what is wrong with this client?
All WUs are invalid.
stderr.out is

<core_client_version>6.2.15</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
wrapper: starting
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1233609939.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in GLOBAL_PREFS::parse_override: mod_time
Skipping: /mod_time
Unrecognized XML in GLOBAL_PREFS::parse_override: max_ncpus_pct
Skipping: 100.000000
Skipping: /max_ncpus_pct
wrapper: running primegrid_llr_5.07_i686_pc_linux_gnu

</stderr_txt>
]]>


I am puzzled...
...i rebooted the box, let us see now.

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Message 13127 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 16:22:47 UTC - in response to Message 13125.

Wow, I just noticed the turnout for this challenge is terrible. Only 411 on the leaderboard, down from over 2000 on last challenge, (forget the flawed PPS challenge), and over 1000 on the woodall challenge. Is that all because of that charity challenge running concurrently or is something else going on?
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Message 13128 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 16:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 13127.

I am on charity - so you will not find me at the race
but next race ...
... I will be back (like Arnold said) ;)
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Message 13129 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 17:22:53 UTC - in response to Message 13120.

Hi John/Lennart,
Are we expecting anyone to find a prime during the challenge?

Peter.

We're always "expecting" a prime. :)

However, for 321, we were speculating that 1-2 would show up before 5M but nothing yet. Last one was at n=2478785.
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Message 13134 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 20:28:46 UTC - in response to Message 13127.
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Wow, I just noticed the turnout for this challenge is terrible. Only 411 on the leaderboard, down from over 2000 on last challenge, (forget the flawed PPS challenge), and over 1000 on the woodall challenge. Is that all because of that charity challenge running concurrently or is something else going on?

True, participation is down about 1/3 from previous LLR Challenges of similar length. However, output is up!!! :D This Challenge has a daily output exceeding the prior Woodall and 321 Challenges.

The last Challenge was a sieve and the top team ranking was up for a battle...therefore, that was the largest participation of the year. As for output, there's no comparison because of the 64 bit sieve apps.

p.s. I guess it's all perspective. I was thinking what a nice turnout this is. :) Exceeding my expectations.
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Message 13135 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 20:40:36 UTC - in response to Message 13134.

True, participation is down about 1/3 from previous LLR Challenges of similar length. However, output is up!!! :D This Challenge has a daily output exceeding the prior Woodall and 321 Challenges.

The last Challenge was a sieve and the top team ranking was up for a battle...therefore, that was the largest participation of the year. As for output, there's no comparison because of the 64 bit sieve apps.

p.s. I guess it's all perspective. I was thinking what a nice turnout this is. :) Exceeding my expectations.


oh, we had SOME discussion on BOINCstats if we should or not - i do not think you'd feel that lucky if things went the other way..




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Message 13136 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 21:05:10 UTC
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John, could you Please take a look @ my Post in the Prime Proth Search/PPS Sieve thread & give me a response on what you think the Problem is or does The Challenge take Precedence over everything & everybody & those not running it can go to Hell ???

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Message 13138 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 22:08:07 UTC - in response to Message 13127.

Wow, I just noticed the turnout for this challenge is terrible. Only 411 on the leaderboard, down from over 2000 on last challenge, (forget the flawed PPS challenge), and over 1000 on the woodall challenge. Is that all because of that charity challenge running concurrently or is something else going on?

From those 411 you cannot say they are really participating in the challenge.
I think many of them ticked all PG-subprojects and got also one or two 321 LLR WU's.
137 of them returned only 1 WU and 61 returned 2 WU's until now in 3 days and 4 hours.

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Message 13139 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 22:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 13138.

Wow, I just noticed the turnout for this challenge is terrible. Only 411 on the leaderboard, down from over 2000 on last challenge, (forget the flawed PPS challenge), and over 1000 on the woodall challenge. Is that all because of that charity challenge running concurrently or is something else going on?

From those 411 you cannot say they are really participating in the challenge.
I think many of them ticked all PG-subprojects and got also one or two 321 LLR WU's.
137 of them returned only 1 WU and 61 returned 2 WU's until now in 3 days and 4 hours.

So thats maybe 200-250 in this challenge "on purpose". There seemed to be a lot more "accidental" participants in previous challenges, but also a REAL lot more on purpose.

True, participation is down about 1/3 from previous LLR Challenges of similar length. However, output is up!!!

At least that makes me feel better:)
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Message 13140 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 23:05:02 UTC

I for one am enjoying this challenge, even if I'm not in the top 20 or anything I am still having fun like I hope most of this wonderful community are as well. Everyone keep up the good work!! Cheers :)
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Message 13141 - Posted: 29 Jan 2009 | 23:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 13140.

I am also here for the fun of it nd I know I am not in the TOP 20 either.


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Message 13143 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 1:23:19 UTC - in response to Message 13141.

So, I was thinking.. On the particpants / top users page it would be nice to see team affiliations after the participant name. Maybe this is something that could be implemented in future challenges.
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I know it is more work ;)

But I think that many would enjoy the "thrill of competition" more by having sub-group leader boards (e.g., leaders among those with 1 host, 5 or less hosts, and more than 5 hosts, etc.) in addition to the overall board.



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I know it is more work ;)

But I think that many would enjoy the "thrill of competition" more by having sub-group leader boards (e.g., leaders among those with 1 host, 5 or less hosts, and more than 5 hosts, etc.) in addition to the overall board.



That is a great idea.

As it is, it is always the same dozen or so people at the top and the rest of us fret about making the top 100.

Right now, it is like a Formula One race: winner takes all. But breaking it down, having categories like in a rally race, means that users compete against peers as well as the ‘big boys.’

Would take a lot of work to set up, tho. . .


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I know it is more work ;)

But I think that many would enjoy the "thrill of competition" more by having sub-group leader boards (e.g., leaders among those with 1 host, 5 or less hosts, and more than 5 hosts, etc.) in addition to the overall board.



That is a great idea.

As it is, it is always the same dozen or so people at the top and the rest of us fret about making the top 100.

Right now, it is like a Formula One race: winner takes all. But breaking it down, having categories like in a rally race, means that users compete against peers as well as the ‘big boys.’

Would take a lot of work to set up, tho. . .



That would be a great idea.

I have 46 boxes that takes me 1.5 hours to start up and a lot of time during the day to monitor. The cost of electricity is about $80-100 for the 5 day challenge.

I would be happy to take part in say a "10 box and under" competition or some similar grouping.

For the one and two day challenges scheduled for this year, it is hardly worth my effort to start all the farm up but I would gladly run 10 boxes more or less.

I know that this would be additional work and the project managers may have other thing to do but it would be nice to have groupings to compete in.
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Message 13153 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 10:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 13152.




That would be a great idea.

I have 46 boxes that takes me 1.5 hours to start up and a lot of time during the day to monitor. The cost of electricity is about $80-100 for the 5 day challenge.

I would be happy to take part in say a "10 box and under" competition or some similar grouping.

For the one and two day challenges scheduled for this year, it is hardly worth my effort to start all the farm up but I would gladly run 10 boxes more or less.

I know that this would be additional work and the project managers may have other thing to do but it would be nice to have groupings to compete in.


KenzieB & William -- I support your idea-- I put forward a similar idea back when the PPS LLR challange exploded (view this thread)

http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1103&nowrap=true#11597

It would be some extra work for PG though ----

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Message 13158 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 12:26:56 UTC - in response to Message 13134.

Wow, I just noticed the turnout for this challenge is terrible. Only 411 on the leaderboard, down from over 2000 on last challenge, (forget the flawed PPS challenge), and over 1000 on the woodall challenge. Is that all because of that charity challenge running concurrently or is something else going on?

True, participation is down about 1/3 from previous LLR Challenges of similar length. However, output is up!!! :D This Challenge has a daily output exceeding the prior Woodall and 321 Challenges.

This is a 5 day challenge, while the two challenges with these long WUs before ran 14 or 17 days. So less users who have just enabled all subprojects and got a 321 LLR by chance get on the scoreboard this time.

Another big reason is definitely the collision with the Charity Crunch event initiated by the two top teams of 2008 Challenge Series (i.e. L'Alliance Francophone and SETI.Germany). Looking at the scoreboard, you'll indeed find not as many members of AF and even less members of SG as in the last comparable challenges. Thank you for posting a full tentative schedule for 2009, this will help to avoid such collisions in future. :)
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Message 13162 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 13:43:06 UTC - in response to Message 13144.

I know it is more work ;)

But I think that many would enjoy the "thrill of competition" more by having sub-group leader boards (e.g., leaders among those with 1 host, 5 or less hosts, and more than 5 hosts, etc.) in addition to the overall board.


I really enjoy these challenges and I'm in on this one because it's PrimeGrid. I don't care that the cobblestones are ridiculously low, or that the progress doesn't show in Linux. It upsets me when people complain, because I know the admins are doing their best to resolve these deficiencies and the fixes simply didn't make it in before the challenge.

Things like the 10 hosts or less ranking takes time away from fixing problems and implementing new applications. Also, it encourages overclocking to maximize those 10 systems, which on these work units can waste half a day or more (per core) or even destroy a system.

Moral of the story: Attach your farm, run solid systems, filter the leaderboard yourself (there's a nice graph utility so you compare with your 5 closest friends / rivals on BOINCstats), and just have fun.

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Message 13163 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 13:56:14 UTC - in response to Message 13162.

I know it is more work ;)

But I think that many would enjoy the "thrill of competition" more by having sub-group leader boards (e.g., leaders among those with 1 host, 5 or less hosts, and more than 5 hosts, etc.) in addition to the overall board.


I really enjoy these challenges and I'm in on this one because it's PrimeGrid. I don't care that the cobblestones are ridiculously low, or that the progress doesn't show in Linux. It upsets me when people complain, because I know the admins are doing their best to resolve these deficiencies and the fixes simply didn't make it in before the challenge.

Things like the 10 hosts or less ranking takes time away from fixing problems and implementing new applications. Also, it encourages overclocking to maximize those 10 systems, which on these work units can waste half a day or more (per core) or even destroy a system.

Moral of the story: Attach your farm, run solid systems, filter the leaderboard yourself (there's a nice graph utility so you compare with your 5 closest friends / rivals on BOINCstats), and just have fun.

Remember the rules when you post say:
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We all look at things differently, don't we:)

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Message 13170 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 15:15:15 UTC - in response to Message 13158.

This is a 5 day challenge, while the two challenges with these long WUs before ran 14 or 17 days.


shame.. had 22 cores go offline yesterday, missed half a day or more on them, that's a lot of crunch time. Wishing it was longer now to make up for some of it.

So far the challenge is going well though I think, outside of personal issues keeping the machines up. On the quad that went into thermal shutdown, it was running a stock cooler, and the grey sheet of thermal paste they put on the heatsink, looked like melted granulated sugar. After some clean up, new thermal grease, and a BIOS reset, it miraculously revived and is holding up well despite hitting 109C at shutdown.

Is this set of LLR's more demanding than others? I've not had any problems like this with the Woodall and TPS, but it may just be the machines showing their age. I have fans spinning at speeds I did not know they were capable of right now. Had to go get some larger and quieter CPU coolers, but with as much downtime as I've had already, and the challenge ending tomorrow, I'm going to wait till it's over to install them though.

Keep up the crunching everyone! lets end this one with a bang.
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Message 13178 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 16:44:18 UTC

I am somewhat confused at the moment.
According to the challenge-graphs over on boincstats, I seem to have lost challengepoints on at least 5 occasion, yet my tasklist since the start of the challenge only shows 1 invalid task?

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Message 13179 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 16:44:39 UTC - in response to Message 13170.

I'm very satisfied as well with the way this challenge is going. I set a personal goal of 100 WU which I should be able to just make:)


On another note, does anyone know yet if we've crossed the n=5M mark during this challenge? I hope so, bring on 10M!

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[edit]soon™ has come - you have your score back.
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ok, thanks :-)

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Message 13182 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 17:41:02 UTC - in response to Message 13179.

On another note, does anyone know yet if we've crossed the n=5M mark during this challenge? I hope so, bring on 10M!

It's going to be close, but at our current pace, we'll reach 5M just before the end of the Challenge.

The next range being sieved is up to 25M. I corrected the first post to reflect this.
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Message 13184 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 17:56:48 UTC - in response to Message 13170.


Is this set of LLR's more demanding than others? I've not had any problems like this with the Woodall and TPS, but it may just be the machines showing their age. I have fans spinning at speeds I did not know they were capable of right now. Had to go get some larger and quieter CPU coolers, but with as much downtime as I've had already, and the challenge ending tomorrow, I'm going to wait till it's over to install them though.

Keep up the crunching everyone! lets end this one with a bang.

The 321 WU's are actually shorter than the Woodall's; therefore, less demanding. However, both of these are substantially longer than TPS, which is the least demanding.
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Message 13192 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 20:50:56 UTC - in response to Message 13158.

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Another big reason is definitely the collision with the Charity Crunch event initiated by the two top teams of 2008 Challenge Series (i.e. L'Alliance Francophone and SETI.Germany). Looking at the scoreboard, you'll indeed find not as many members of AF and even less members of SG as in the last comparable challenges. Thank you for posting a full tentative schedule for 2009, this will help to avoid such collisions in future. :)

Yes, that collision with the Charity Crunching (Benefizcrunchen) is the reason for me not to take part in this PG challenge. I enjoyed those challenges in which I took part. But I think 9 challenges in 1 year is quite much for a single project.

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I would have to respectfully disagree I love having challenges once a month or once every 2 months, so 9 a year is, in my opinion a great choice, keeping the community active and having fun. But this is only my opinion so take no offense or anything :) Not everyone will agree with me but I would hope some might.
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Message 13195 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 22:46:29 UTC - in response to Message 13192.

But I think 9 challenges in 1 year is quite much for a single project.

Still theres fewer days of challenge planned for this year. 48 Days worth last year, only 29 days this year.
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Message 13199 - Posted: 30 Jan 2009 | 23:34:16 UTC - in response to Message 13195.

But I think 9 challenges in 1 year is quite much for a single project.

Still theres fewer days of challenge planned for this year. 48 Days worth last year, only 29 days this year.


yes, it is good idea of developers... this could do others projects too

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Only work units issued AFTER 26 January 2009 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE 31 January 2009 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit.


A thought hit me for the first time tonight..

Does this mean, uploaded and reported, or just uploaded ?

And what happens to an WU if you upload, but never report (for example disconnect after a challenge, but have finished and uploaded WU's that have not been reported yet.

Thanks :)

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Message 13203 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 7:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 13201.

@John M.:

I would have to respectfully disagree I love having challenges once a month or once every 2 months, so 9 a year is, in my opinion a great choice, keeping the community active and having fun. But this is only my opinion so take no offense or anything :) Not everyone will agree with me but I would hope some might.

I agree with this opinion, I also love this challenges, especially the short ones. The other projects do, if any, ~14 days challenges, which is IMHO quite a long time for a multi project cruncher. But these 1-3 days challenges are something special, I remember only one other project doing such a short and thus very exciting challenge. :)


@Steven Pletsch:
Only work units issued AFTER 26 January 2009 18:00 UTC and received BEFORE 31 January 2009 18:00 UTC will be considered for credit.


A thought hit me for the first time tonight..

Does this mean, uploaded and reported, or just uploaded ?

And what happens to an WU if you upload, but never report (for example disconnect after a challenge, but have finished and uploaded WU's that have not been reported yet.

You have to report them, uploading is not enough. Otherwise the server would not know that you completed your result, this information enters the database only by reporting. So it is a wise idea to press the update button manually in the last few minutes or run a very short cache, so that new work will be fetched (and thereby completed work reported) very often. ;)
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Message 13214 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 16:27:12 UTC
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It begins to become exciting ...
There is nothing to complain of for me - as usual.

BTW: Every contest becomes better than the last one. :-)

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Only a few hours left for this Challenge right? I live in central time so I'm not sure with the world clock when it ends exactly, anyone around my area know how much time we have left? thanks

Edit : I was able to put in my state in the world converter but I'm not sure of the servers time zone area so thats why I'm curious how much longer we have for this Challenge.

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Message 13217 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 16:39:01 UTC - in response to Message 13216.

Only a few hours left for this Challenge right? I live in central time so I'm not sure with the world clock when it ends exactly, anyone around my area know how much time we have left? thanks

Edit : I was able to put in my state in the world converter but I'm not sure of the servers time zone area so thats why I'm curious how much longer we have for this Challenge.


Should be noon in central, I am EST and 1pm is my end.
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Message 13218 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 16:41:47 UTC - in response to Message 13217.

Only a few hours left for this Challenge right? I live in central time so I'm not sure with the world clock when it ends exactly, anyone around my area know how much time we have left? thanks

Edit : I was able to put in my state in the world converter but I'm not sure of the servers time zone area so thats why I'm curious how much longer we have for this Challenge.


Should be noon in central, I am EST and 1pm is my end.



Thank you so much William
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Message 13219 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 16:56:44 UTC
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Just an hour and a few minutes to go...

For me, the crunching part of the challenge is already over (the next WU will be done 40 minutes too late), now waiting for the 24 pending results to be validated. ;)
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Message 13220 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 17:41:08 UTC - in response to Message 13219.

Adding to what you just said about pending credit, I really wish people wouldn't abort all their WU's that are no longer challenge-worthy like this guy just did: 71947

I am going to finish crunching all of my remaining tasks (since none of them can finish before the end of the challenge now), but my wingmen are dropping like flies. *sigh* I'm probably going to have WU's pending for quite a while. :(
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Ended ;-)
Nice one!

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...I really wish people wouldn't abort all their WU's that are no longer challenge-worthy like this guy just did: 71947
:(

While we prefer that all downloaded WU's be completed, we understand users wanting to move on to other endeavors. Therefore, we kindly ask users moving on to actually ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING or PAUSING. With the new BOINC clients, you can select all and delete. Then update project. Very easy. :)

ABORTING allows the WU to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING and PAUSING causes WU's to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)
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Ended ;-)
Nice one!

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Aborting (shortstop) close before Contests is ok - after contest you could set PG to "no new tasks" so you dont waste crunchingtime and energy.
[I crunch-on the contest-WUs, because I wanna thank John for his contests ...]

@Roadrunner: you was a great fighter till the end - congrats :-))

(My oppinion)
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Message 13228 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 18:26:35 UTC

Hm, looks like I missed the top 50 users. Without the errors it might have been enough, but that's life. ;)

I hope that we'll soon have the final rankings and of course I'll complete the remaining WUs on my hosts before switching back to the other event. 8)

Thank you for this challenge, it was not as exciting as the close battle for the first place in team ranking last time, but at least it was a good push for the 321 Prime Search (although it looks like we didn't find a prime again...). :)
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Message 13229 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 18:57:27 UTC
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Congratulations to everyone and thank you for participating!!! The clean up starts now. :D

It looks like the top 10 in each category (teams, participants) are pretty solid...excluding any major computing errors. However, from 10th to 35th there are several close races.

We'll know in a few days about how long it's going to take to finalize the Challenge. Once there are not enough outstanding WU's to affect the outcome, we'll finalize it.

As always, we greatly appreciate any "extra" help in cleaning up. :)

Finally, the next Challenge is the Ides of March Challenge on 15 March 2009 (6 weeks away). It will be 24 hours on the PPS LLR project. However, stay tuned as we have a little friendly competition for the month of February. It's not part of the Challenge series, there are no awards to be won or points to be gained, etc. It's just a little something for those who are interested and who are already crunching here at PrimeGrid. :)
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Message 13230 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 19:04:16 UTC - in response to Message 13223.

...I really wish people wouldn't abort all their WU's that are no longer challenge-worthy like this guy just did: 71947
:(

While we prefer that all downloaded WU's be completed, we understand users wanting to move on to other endeavors. Therefore, we kindly ask users moving on to actually ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING or PAUSING. With the new BOINC clients, you can select all and delete. Then update project. Very easy. :)

ABORTING allows the WU to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING and PAUSING causes WU's to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)


Does resetting do the same thing??

I do not finish residual work because of electricity constraints.
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Message 13231 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 19:24:38 UTC

Thank you for this challenge... Did we find a prime?

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Message 13232 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 19:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 13230.
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Does resetting do the same thing??

I believe resetting leaves WU's to expire...

Thank you for this challenge... Did we find a prime?

Not yet. We won't know for sure until all WU's of the Challenge have been validated.
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Message 13233 - Posted: 31 Jan 2009 | 20:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 13232.

Does resetting do the same thing??

I believe resetting leaves WU's to expire...

Thank you for this challenge... Did we find a prime?

Not yet. We won't know for sure until all WU's of the Challenge have been validated.


Sorry everyone, I didn't know. I won't let that happen in the future.

Great Challenge! Tough work:)

THANKS for putting it on and I look forward to the next one.

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Message 13246 - Posted: 1 Feb 2009 | 8:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 13229.

However, stay tuned as we have a little friendly competition for the month of February. It's not part of the Challenge series, there are no awards to be won or points to be gained, etc. It's just a little something for those who are interested and who are already crunching here at PrimeGrid. :)

How very cryptic. :P

And am personally very happy with my results: looks like top hundred. And my little team may even end up with a point, depending on how it all settles out. :)

BTW Left my remainders in my cache but they may be a couple days until they crunched. Since I un-paused Seti and Einstein, BOINC has been going slightly nuts trying to finish off some soon-to-expire wu's. lol.
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Message 13295 - Posted: 2 Feb 2009 | 10:00:59 UTC

Nice Challenge, although I got more compute errors than I expected. I hopefully also earned a point for my team, which is great as I am the only one actively participating here (maybe 2 or 3 321 WUs were computed 'accitentially' by others).

'Friendly Challenge' sounds like that Charity Challenge.

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Message 13336 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009 | 4:09:10 UTC - in response to Message 13229.

We'll know in a few days about how long it's going to take to finalize the Challenge. Once there are not enough outstanding WU's to affect the outcome, we'll finalize it.

As always, we greatly appreciate any "extra" help in cleaning up. :)


Any idea on how many 321's are left to finish the clean up?

I have 8 cores running 321 LLRs about 75% currently and can shift another 4-8 over if it would help.

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Message 13352 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009 | 18:57:21 UTC - in response to Message 13336.

We'll know in a few days about how long it's going to take to finalize the Challenge. Once there are not enough outstanding WU's to affect the outcome, we'll finalize it.

As always, we greatly appreciate any "extra" help in cleaning up. :)


Any idea on how many 321's are left to finish the clean up?

I have 8 cores running 321 LLRs about 75% currently and can shift another 4-8 over if it would help.



hi, there you can find status about 321 LLRs http://www.primegrid.com/stats_321_llr.php

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Message 13354 - Posted: 4 Feb 2009 | 19:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 13336.

Any idea on how many 321's are left to finish the clean up?

I have 8 cores running 321 LLRs about 75% currently and can shift another 4-8 over if it would help.

The cleanup is going well. Although there still remains over 2000 WU's outstanding from the Challenge, they are finishing nicely.

Looking at the stats, there's still about 4 cases in the participant rankings and only a couple in the teams rankings that would still be affected by a few WU's changing scores. However, the error rate was quite small so we're pretty confident in the current standings.

Nevertheless, while it's very hard to get 100% completion so soon after a long LLR Challenge, we'd like to get as close as possible. Therefore, we can always use more help. :)

The deadline for most of the WU's during the Challenge was 5 days. Therefore, we're expecting the last "expired" Challenge WU's on 05 Feb. Any extra help on the 5th through the 8th would be greatly appreciated. If all goes well, we could finalize on the 8th. :)

FYI...if everyone had aborted their WU's instead of "abandoning" them, we'd probably be complete now. Most of the current work is "expiring" WU's. This is definitely an oversight on my part in the instructions. Next LLR Challenge I'll make sure to add the following:

    We kindly ask users moving on to ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

    ABORTING WU's allows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

    Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)


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Message 13369 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009 | 11:55:19 UTC
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We kindly ask users moving on to ABORT their WU's instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

ABORTING WU's allows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of an LLR Challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed.

Please consider either completing what's in the queue or ABORTING them. Thank you. :)


As a guilty and uninformed party[WilliamWallace], I would like to again offer my apologies.
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Message 13388 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009 | 16:28:28 UTC

Hah! I read this as "The Year of the OSX Challenge", and got excited about Mac apps!

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Message 13391 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009 | 18:41:37 UTC - in response to Message 13388.

Hah! I read this as "The Year of the OSX Challenge", and got excited about Mac apps!

A Mac app would be a WELCOMED addition.

Both LLR and sr2sieve have Mac builds and can be found here:

sr2sieve 1.6.7 Mac x86_64
LLR Version 3.7.1c for MacIntel / MAC OS X

Any assistance in bringing these to BOINC would be greatly appreciated. :)

fyi...Mac's can participate in PRPNet.
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Message 13500 - Posted: 10 Feb 2009 | 18:42:42 UTC - in response to Message 13354.

The deadline for most of the WU's during the Challenge was 5 days. Therefore, we're expecting the last "expired" Challenge WU's on 05 Feb. Any extra help on the 5th through the 8th would be greatly appreciated. If all goes well, we could finalize on the 8th. :)

Well, too many WU's made it past the 8th expiration date so have been reissued. Hopefully enough will come in this next round to finalize before the 13th.
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Message 13501 - Posted: 10 Feb 2009 | 19:09:30 UTC

I have these two WUs showing in my pendings list from the challenge. Both should have cleared from pending when they were awarded credit.

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Message 13502 - Posted: 10 Feb 2009 | 19:19:05 UTC

Your computers errored out on both WUs, they shouldn't appear in your pending list in the first place as far as i know

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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,283,562)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,061,722)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,273,023)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,892,794)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,531,477)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,891,450)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,230,393)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,100,879)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,283,550)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,185)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,011,402)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,068,778)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,236,155)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,528,158)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,539,542)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (417,781,968)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,015,377)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,856)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,428,738)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,270,237)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,190,400)
Message 13505 - Posted: 11 Feb 2009 | 0:34:18 UTC

Exactly, just thought John and the crew might want to look into it.

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Message 13584 - Posted: 13 Feb 2009 | 17:34:21 UTC - in response to Message 13391.

A Mac app would be a WELCOMED addition.

Both LLR and sr2sieve have Mac builds and can be found here:

sr2sieve 1.6.7 Mac x86_64
LLR Version 3.7.1c for MacIntel / MAC OS X

Any assistance in bringing these to BOINC would be greatly appreciated. :)


What kind of help is needed?
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Message 13585 - Posted: 13 Feb 2009 | 17:46:40 UTC - in response to Message 13584.

A Mac app would be a WELCOMED addition.

Both LLR and sr2sieve have Mac builds and can be found here:

sr2sieve 1.6.7 Mac x86_64
LLR Version 3.7.1c for MacIntel / MAC OS X

Any assistance in bringing these to BOINC would be greatly appreciated. :)


What kind of help is needed?


The problem is with BOINC. I've had no luck getting anything to link with the BOINC libraries, although that was only on MacPPC. I haven't tried MacIntel as I expect the same issues.

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Message 13591 - Posted: 13 Feb 2009 | 22:49:19 UTC

Finally, all my WUs have been validated (ok, this one is still in the pending list, but it shouldn't be there ;)). :)
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Message 13622 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009 | 22:27:49 UTC

Well, maybe it will get finalized before the next challenge. LOL

I still have one left in pending looks like. So maybe by the 16th, or the 19th.

Was a good challenge, cant wait for the next one.

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Message 13688 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009 | 20:08:18 UTC

i dunno how much wu's left to validate challenge results, but i believe that if admins claim that all wu's that helps validate challenge results will count toward challenge scores, this will be a fast move )))
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Message 13732 - Posted: 20 Feb 2009 | 3:33:26 UTC

Finally!!!

The results have been finalized. While there were about 180 WU's remaining, none of them affected the outcome.

It's good to know that although scores increased/decreased over the last two weeks, there were no position changes.

We are going to make a few adjustments to the next LLR Challenge that will hopefully expedite the "clean up" after the end of the Challenge.

Thanks again to everyone who participated. The next Challenge is the Ides of March Challenge on 15 March. It's for 24 hours and will be on the PPS LLR project. See you then!!!
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